Two years ago: Free software is a virus in the industry, doesn't work well, can't guarantee quality, is hard to use and difficult to support...
Now: pay 350Megadollars to a company who became successful by thinking exactly the opposite, make deals with php, xen...
Microsoft has spread FUD or has been dead wrong, this is an official and inescapable conclusion. Those who followed Microsoft propaganda might have lost 2 to 5 years of promising developments in the free software world.
So, are these guys more or less trustworthy than a magic 8 ball when it comes to decisions in the IT world? Because, you know, the magic 8 ball has no interest in screwing the costumers.:)
ALL TEN of the propositions listed below must be proven true if the climate-change "consensus" is to
be proven true.
They must be proven to win an argument, fine. But if we fsck up on one single issue, like following points 5, 7, or 10, we are toast.
The first article considers the first six of the listed propositions and draws the
conclusions shown. The second article will consider the remaining four propositions.
1. That the debate is over and all credible climate scientists are agreed. False
If it all depended on every scientist agreeing on something we'd probably still have to decide if the earth is round or flat. Irrelevant.
2. That temperature has risen above millennial variability and is exceptional. Very unlikely
"rise above variability" is a terrible choice of words for possibly saying that the temperature is not outside the ranges. That is not the only factor to consider: last five years my place had average temperatures but, cold and warm seasons (the only remaining two it appears) came with temperature differentials of some 10 degrees celsius in a single day. What will influence crops and food, a statistic, or the actual weather?
3. That changes in solar irradiance are an insignificant forcing mechanism. False
Totally agree. One more reason not to meddle with the chemical composition of the atmosphere. Natural occurring irregularities of solar irradiance can amplify the effect of a different composition. For the better or the worse, SURE, but since the last millions of years of solar irradiance didn't get us all killed, while CFC seem to, why risk?
4. That the last century's increases in temperature are correctly measured.Unlikely
Errors spread in BOTH directions, usually. Doesn't it happen with last century measurements? unlikely. Or a conspiracy, which would have to be investigated.
5. That greenhouse-gas increase is the main forcing agent of temperature. Not proven
Good reason not to meddle with greenhouse-gas, too.
6. That temperature will rise far enough to do more harm than good. Very unlikely
An artificial temperature change is risky because is artificial, not because it's a temperature change.
7. That continuing greenhouse-gas emissions will be very harmful to life. Unlikely
Correct, life will find a way around human impact on the planet. At what cost for us homo sapiens? None, Decimation, extinction, forced genetic therapy in a worse-than-orwellian future where man can't breath or procreate without help from big brother?
8. That proposed carbon-emission limits would make a definite difference. Very unlikely
So propose something else. Or does one ineffectual cure change the nature of the symptoms?
9. That the environmental benefits of remediation will be
cost-effective. Very unlikely
Irrelevant. Man managed to survive in this planet with less technology so a good use of technology with the least possible impact on environment is the way to go, cost effective or not. Filters on car exhausts are not cost effective either, do you propose to eliminate them?
10. That taking precautions, just in case, would be the responsible course. False
What if I want to be irresponsibly free to live as my forefathers did? Clean air water and food, being able to make children with a woman, and if shit happens, too bad? But this is me. What about you? Do politicians listen to whom?
A new world order can sure be made from climate terrorism, as the journalist says. But assuming a conspiracy of these dimensions, and assuming a combination of power and technology can guarantee the survival of an elite (that is always true if the elite is small enough but it still has to do the conspiring, so can't be too little), I'd rather use pollution as a weapon, than the made up fear of it. BTW in the meantime, pollution is converting pure water into money under our eyes.
A bayesian filter is statistical analysis, right? so, see this comment. If the average slashdotter, me, comes up with this idea in the brief time between reading a story and getting bored with the discussion, IT IS A STUPID PATENT.
Btw, since i can document i had the idea first, the patent should not apply to my friggin' projects too. Friggin' patents.
Well this is exactly the problem. Even well done web apps can misbehave with a new version of an incompatible browser. So what about those sticking to poorly coded ones?
Wait a minute, is ie7 100% backwards compatible with ie6? I seem to recall it isn't. Then, how can Microsoft push it in updates? what about people relaying on the browser for intranet web apps that can break?
Well, have you considered that the best case scenario, Microsoft trying to help costumers who choose to run the OS they're competing with, is totally unbelievable?:) They are surely up to something IMHO.
When i hear about linux deployment i figure a local apt repository for tested packages, an apt-upgrade at shutdown and happy users.
Today i crashed office by pasting three paragraphs and a table into a new word doc from a secure site browsed by IE6. Not to mention that when it works, same action is faster on my linux home machine whose specs say it's 5 times slower. and i don't get warnings about certificates while doing that. For the record, the only problem with that page is missing doctype and one spurious closing p tag.
Is windows ready for the desktop?
>Please explain to me how you equate a repressive regime, that censors and persecutes it own people with software bugs
where did I do that?
Let's be clearer: MS has shown no ethics. MS pulling out of China because of ethical reasons is BS.
Well one commercial entity could have ethical reasons to pull out of China. But Microsoft could first start showing ethical behaviour with its users, providing the best user experience instead of forcing them through their usual "patch for holes-get new version- migrate outdated formats- get new hardware" that used to be the norm until linux scared them into making decent software. And they could also show ethics towards the competition it unfairly crushed according to the lawsuits brought.
Only then i'll believe they're going out of china for ethical reasons.
i keep one linux user for each thing i'm doing, so firefox history preferences toolbar buttons and history are easier to navigate. Usually it's four users open, at least two windows per user. Development user has the sticky window (appears in all workspaces, or virtual screens) and one tworkspace for the IDE another for the doc and the database apps. I'm typing from the last workspace which is for "recreational activities", be it games, porn, slashdot...
And, windows installs are not easy as clicking setup. You must: a) find the software b) download c) install, running a 10 pages wizard with 2 significant choices to make, the other are like: do you want the friggin icon to clutter the desktop? d) uninstall, it's a friggin 30days crippleware even if you needed only to do ftp. e) repeat until something nice is found (usually a GPL app which would run faster under linux)
Then you have to update manually and watch out for windows breaking something in the registry, and experience the daily WTF with windows (yes, XP too) instability (today my WTF was gimp taking 10x to startup at work)
Full control like having your PC phone home to check if you're not running your XP with a couple different NICs and a new HD.
If Macs are for gays, Winboxes are for submissive gays. Bend over, Vista's coming.
"you can't win without propaganda" is... propaganda. Because you give the impression, without saying it, that propaganda is a somewhat important factor, the truth being: everyone does at least a little propaganda to keep morale high against the bad effects of a war, and one of the factions usually wins.
History? fascist italy and communist bloc, FULL of full time propaganda, were fast to convert to being friends of USA and capitalism. So, your theory is wrong. Not that it's a theory, it's just saying "the end justifies the means".
And, once you do what you criticize in the enemy, what makes you the good guys?
> Windows. Next question.
But they end up on Mac.
After a while some get fed up with commercial and shareware pop ups for the simplest things, and see the light.
BTW the icons in TFBlurb look like a fuming penguin.
How is this a troll? He's almost totally right and a killer line in the end too. I'd add that performance matters, too. So an eye candy interface that takes noticeably a toll on *perceived* performance is not so advisable IMHO. But I don't call on keeping linux graphically simple and performant. Linux is not an uniform environment, can be a stark command line on the server, a light desktop on the old machine and some eye candy on the latest hardware. Let hackers and designers loose and keep the best ideas.
No amount of what evidence? I asked for a simple model. If all you need is a "deal of good sense" to understand the 911 phenomenon, why can't you tell us poor nutcases how to make a collapsing model to satisfy our doubts? There are sure difference between a model and a full scale building, but one can arbitrarily add weight to the model to make up for that.
I assert articles in the web have made a good job of debunking popular mechanics. But that's irrelevant. For all the googling, nobody is going to take a million dollars home, or unmask the jokers who offered it, by making steel structures collapse in their path the 911 way. Strange.
You people are implying/. editors don't try a simple google search before top-posting the story. COME ON EDITORS! TELL THE WORLD YOU DID CHEck... what? nevermind....
Seriously, the phishing report is built in or depends on connecting to mother m$? in the second case you're just making assumptions. You anti-anti-microsoft zealots.
You may be trying to be funny, but happened something like that with a slashdot article on one guy criticizing wga and later saying "oopsie, my fault". And i had anticipated it, too. read comment, story and then... Tinfoil hat working great And look how anti-tinfoil M$ brigade is already modding you down:)
Nope, nothing i found on google explains the phenomenon in terms of a - literally - friggin' real life modeling of 911 style collapse. NIST report, FEMA report, Popular Mechanic report, tons of debunking. If I found something it were appealing, i'll try making a model with some engineers that can understand better than me the whole affair and cash out the 1000000$ contest http://www.reopen911.org/Contest.htm
That's the second question. the first and most disturbing one is: why the hypothetical plan was so elaborate? A couple terrorists dumping lethal doses of whatever into the water supply would have been easier and more secure to do as an inside job, right?
So it has been done to potentially blow in the face of the perpetrator if the proper leaks are done? Or it's all a big diversion to steer away from some other socioeconomic dynamics that will affect us more than 4000 + asbestos related deaths?
Anyway, how many people need to know the full extent of a conspiracy? answer, one. All the others can just be people whose careers soared by keeping the mouth shut. And, speaking out implies being charged with murder and exposed to the wrath of none other than a bunch of nation leading neo cons blockheads (i speak from a christian point of view before you call me commie) And, your question doesn't make the disruption of WTC any more credible. And you assume the operation went well, but it was so full of holes else nobody would be still discussing it now.
Well unless somebody shows me a real life working model of steel and asbestos structure which, imbibed in how much jet fuel you care to throw at it, goes down in his footprint in a similar way the two towers+wtc7 did, I consider ludicrous your blind acceptance of the most intriguing series of coincidences that let those terrorist bring down the towers according to the official investigation.
According to my most paranoid theories, Bush seems the troll Mussolini and Hilter were: the facade showing nationalism, in truth bringing their nations to their knees for the invasion of the next masters. Why America was chosen as the leader and soon replaced? Before Americans were the ideal "tabula rasa" for the consumer society. But now people under communism and underdevelopment were deprived of their culture and were shown your way of life. Now they're better than you or us poor old western european folks, for the semi-free society of tomorrow.
Sounds paranoid? sure, but postulating a centuries old process (which might be a conspiracy or a mere sum of interests) that is stripping mankind of every value different from the lust for money, by playing with people nations and war, is a very interesting way to look at history.
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Two years ago: Free software is a virus in the industry, doesn't work well, can't guarantee quality, is hard to use and difficult to support... Now: pay 350Megadollars to a company who became successful by thinking exactly the opposite, make deals with php, xen... Microsoft has spread FUD or has been dead wrong, this is an official and inescapable conclusion. Those who followed Microsoft propaganda might have lost 2 to 5 years of promising developments in the free software world. So, are these guys more or less trustworthy than a magic 8 ball when it comes to decisions in the IT world? Because, you know, the magic 8 ball has no interest in screwing the costumers. :)
If it all depended on every scientist agreeing on something we'd probably still have to decide if the earth is round or flat. Irrelevant.
"rise above variability" is a terrible choice of words for possibly saying that the temperature is not outside the ranges. That is not the only factor to consider: last five years my place had average temperatures but, cold and warm seasons (the only remaining two it appears) came with temperature differentials of some 10 degrees celsius in a single day. What will influence crops and food, a statistic, or the actual weather?
Totally agree. One more reason not to meddle with the chemical composition of the atmosphere. Natural occurring irregularities of solar irradiance can amplify the effect of a different composition. For the better or the worse, SURE, but since the last millions of years of solar irradiance didn't get us all killed, while CFC seem to, why risk?
Errors spread in BOTH directions, usually. Doesn't it happen with last century measurements? unlikely. Or a conspiracy, which would have to be investigated.
Good reason not to meddle with greenhouse-gas, too.
An artificial temperature change is risky because is artificial, not because it's a temperature change.
Correct, life will find a way around human impact on the planet. At what cost for us homo sapiens? None, Decimation, extinction, forced genetic therapy in a worse-than-orwellian future where man can't breath or procreate without help from big brother?
So propose something else. Or does one ineffectual cure change the nature of the symptoms?
Irrelevant. Man managed to survive in this planet with less technology so a good use of technology with the least possible impact on environment is the way to go, cost effective or not. Filters on car exhausts are not cost effective either, do you propose to eliminate them?
What if I want to be irresponsibly free to live as my forefathers did? Clean air water and food, being able to make children with a woman, and if shit happens, too bad? But this is me. What about you? Do politicians listen to whom?
A new world order can sure be made from climate terrorism, as the journalist says. But assuming a conspiracy of these dimensions, and assuming a combination of power and technology can guarantee the survival of an elite (that is always true if the elite is small enough but it still has to do the conspiring, so can't be too little), I'd rather use pollution as a weapon, than the made up fear of it. BTW in the meantime, pollution is converting pure water into money under our eyes.
A bayesian filter is statistical analysis, right? so, see this comment. If the average slashdotter, me, comes up with this idea in the brief time between reading a story and getting bored with the discussion, IT IS A STUPID PATENT.
Btw, since i can document i had the idea first, the patent should not apply to my friggin' projects too. Friggin' patents.
I blame the upgrade being forced down your throat not the upgrade itself. Geez.
Well this is exactly the problem. Even well done web apps can misbehave with a new version of an incompatible browser. So what about those sticking to poorly coded ones?
Wait a minute, is ie7 100% backwards compatible with ie6? I seem to recall it isn't. Then, how can Microsoft push it in updates? what about people relaying on the browser for intranet web apps that can break?
Well, have you considered that the best case scenario, Microsoft trying to help costumers who choose to run the OS they're competing with, is totally unbelievable? :) They are surely up to something IMHO.
When i hear about linux deployment i figure a local apt repository for tested packages, an apt-upgrade at shutdown and happy users. Today i crashed office by pasting three paragraphs and a table into a new word doc from a secure site browsed by IE6. Not to mention that when it works, same action is faster on my linux home machine whose specs say it's 5 times slower. and i don't get warnings about certificates while doing that. For the record, the only problem with that page is missing doctype and one spurious closing p tag. Is windows ready for the desktop?
>Please explain to me how you equate a repressive regime, that censors and persecutes it own people with software bugs where did I do that? Let's be clearer: MS has shown no ethics. MS pulling out of China because of ethical reasons is BS.
Well one commercial entity could have ethical reasons to pull out of China. But Microsoft could first start showing ethical behaviour with its users, providing the best user experience instead of forcing them through their usual "patch for holes-get new version- migrate outdated formats- get new hardware" that used to be the norm until linux scared them into making decent software. And they could also show ethics towards the competition it unfairly crushed according to the lawsuits brought.
Only then i'll believe they're going out of china for ethical reasons.
The plural might have been because of the overheating early xbox360 power supplies reports, I guess.
i keep one linux user for each thing i'm doing, so firefox history preferences toolbar buttons and history are easier to navigate. Usually it's four users open, at least two windows per user. Development user has the sticky window (appears in all workspaces, or virtual screens) and one tworkspace for the IDE another for the doc and the database apps. I'm typing from the last workspace which is for "recreational activities", be it games, porn, slashdot...
And, windows installs are not easy as clicking setup. You must:
a) find the software
b) download
c) install, running a 10 pages wizard with 2 significant choices to make, the other are like: do you want the friggin icon to clutter the desktop?
d) uninstall, it's a friggin 30days crippleware even if you needed only to do ftp.
e) repeat until something nice is found (usually a GPL app which would run faster under linux)
Then you have to update manually and watch out for windows breaking something in the registry, and experience the daily WTF with windows (yes, XP too) instability (today my WTF was gimp taking 10x to startup at work)
Full control like having your PC phone home to check if you're not running your XP with a couple different NICs and a new HD. If Macs are for gays, Winboxes are for submissive gays. Bend over, Vista's coming.
"you can't win without propaganda" is... propaganda. Because you give the impression, without saying it, that propaganda is a somewhat important factor, the truth being: everyone does at least a little propaganda to keep morale high against the bad effects of a war, and one of the factions usually wins.
;D
History? fascist italy and communist bloc, FULL of full time propaganda, were fast to convert to being friends of USA and capitalism. So, your theory is wrong. Not that it's a theory, it's just saying "the end justifies the means".
And, once you do what you criticize in the enemy, what makes you the good guys?
Pentagon modded you insightful
> Windows. Next question. But they end up on Mac. After a while some get fed up with commercial and shareware pop ups for the simplest things, and see the light. BTW the icons in TFBlurb look like a fuming penguin.
How is this a troll? He's almost totally right and a killer line in the end too. I'd add that performance matters, too. So an eye candy interface that takes noticeably a toll on *perceived* performance is not so advisable IMHO. But I don't call on keeping linux graphically simple and performant. Linux is not an uniform environment, can be a stark command line on the server, a light desktop on the old machine and some eye candy on the latest hardware. Let hackers and designers loose and keep the best ideas.
No amount of what evidence? I asked for a simple model. If all you need is a "deal of good sense" to understand the 911 phenomenon, why can't you tell us poor nutcases how to make a collapsing model to satisfy our doubts? There are sure difference between a model and a full scale building, but one can arbitrarily add weight to the model to make up for that. I assert articles in the web have made a good job of debunking popular mechanics. But that's irrelevant. For all the googling, nobody is going to take a million dollars home, or unmask the jokers who offered it, by making steel structures collapse in their path the 911 way. Strange.
You people are implying /. editors don't try a simple google search before top-posting the story. COME ON EDITORS! TELL THE WORLD YOU DID CHEck... what? nevermind....
Seriously, the phishing report is built in or depends on connecting to mother m$? in the second case you're just making assumptions. You anti-anti-microsoft zealots.
Nope, it's an unique opportunity to bash microsoft without the usual microsoft-supplied evidence.
You may be trying to be funny, but happened something like that with a slashdot article on one guy criticizing wga and later saying "oopsie, my fault". And i had anticipated it, too. read comment, story and then... Tinfoil hat working great And look how anti-tinfoil M$ brigade is already modding you down :)
Nope, nothing i found on google explains the phenomenon in terms of a - literally - friggin' real life modeling of 911 style collapse. NIST report, FEMA report, Popular Mechanic report, tons of debunking. If I found something it were appealing, i'll try making a model with some engineers that can understand better than me the whole affair and cash out the 1000000$ contest http://www.reopen911.org/Contest.htm
That's the second question. the first and most disturbing one is: why the hypothetical plan was so elaborate? A couple terrorists dumping lethal doses of whatever into the water supply would have been easier and more secure to do as an inside job, right? So it has been done to potentially blow in the face of the perpetrator if the proper leaks are done? Or it's all a big diversion to steer away from some other socioeconomic dynamics that will affect us more than 4000 + asbestos related deaths? Anyway, how many people need to know the full extent of a conspiracy? answer, one. All the others can just be people whose careers soared by keeping the mouth shut. And, speaking out implies being charged with murder and exposed to the wrath of none other than a bunch of nation leading neo cons blockheads (i speak from a christian point of view before you call me commie) And, your question doesn't make the disruption of WTC any more credible. And you assume the operation went well, but it was so full of holes else nobody would be still discussing it now.
Well unless somebody shows me a real life working model of steel and asbestos structure which, imbibed in how much jet fuel you care to throw at it, goes down in his footprint in a similar way the two towers+wtc7 did, I consider ludicrous your blind acceptance of the most intriguing series of coincidences that let those terrorist bring down the towers according to the official investigation. According to my most paranoid theories, Bush seems the troll Mussolini and Hilter were: the facade showing nationalism, in truth bringing their nations to their knees for the invasion of the next masters. Why America was chosen as the leader and soon replaced? Before Americans were the ideal "tabula rasa" for the consumer society. But now people under communism and underdevelopment were deprived of their culture and were shown your way of life. Now they're better than you or us poor old western european folks, for the semi-free society of tomorrow. Sounds paranoid? sure, but postulating a centuries old process (which might be a conspiracy or a mere sum of interests) that is stripping mankind of every value different from the lust for money, by playing with people nations and war, is a very interesting way to look at history.