How is this going to hurt the MS strangle-hold over the desktop environment? Neither SUN or RH could compete with MS for the desktop; why would the two together be any different? If the two were to partner up and dump huge amounts of capital into developing a more robust and usable desktop there may be a chance.. But I doubt seriously that this is their intention. This may put a ding in MSs armor, but it won't affect their overall control of the desktop arena. But that's just my worthless $0.02.
It is. It is turning into a corporate marketing playground. There are some very good points in this article and we should definitely consider its legitimacy. I for one hate to see the way the 'web is evolving. Just about every element of browsing has been touched by advertising and marketing and it's only getting worse. The dissemination of good information is becoming more and more difficult. I firmly believe the internet is heading the way of broadcast TV (commercials, pay options 'better' access, restrictions, etc.). There will always be a great repository of information, it will just be ever more difficult to tap. Unless of course you're looking for pr0n0.
I was working mainly on their nasa.gov web farm.. Which is all Windows 2000, using Windows 2000 based RAID filers, and MS SQL. Don't know where you work or what you do, and I'm not claiming to know everything about NASA, but I didn't see anything other than MS while I was there. There were of course some mainframes about, and some random dev boxes, but all the servers around me were MS based OSs. Then again, seeing as I was representing MS at the time, that probably had something to do with it. Anyway, this is good news for OSS and for NASA, as long as their interests continue and they don't abondon the idea.
I used to work for Microsoft and was asked to help NASA several times with support/dev issues they were experiencing. I've visited the Space Center in Cape Canaveral, as well as some other external NASA locations, and they are using a lot of MS technologies. This is definitely a step in the right direction for the Open Source movement, but NASA has a long way to go before any Open Source initiative has any real impact on their development. Don't get me wrong, I'm very excited they made this decision, but it's a very small step. Besides, NASA has an extremely rigorous testing campaign for all new hardware and software, so these changes won't be noticed for some time to come. Otherwise this is a great step forward for OSS and I'm very pleased to hear about it! When I was working with them there was a huge aversion to OSS and it gave me the impression that they were diehard MS. There may still be hope for America's space development!
It's nice to hear some reason within the millions of MS bashing posts. The security and reliability of any server lies squarely on the administrator. There are millions of Windows machines in the wild that can be exploited at the drop of a hat; same true for *NIX. Not because the OS sux, but because they have not be properly configured and secured. Win2000 and WinXP are very reliable products. Almost to the point that I will agree that MS might have shot themselves in the foot to some degree; but me being the consumer, I only see a benefit to that argument.
I use opera, which has pop-up blocking built-in, but some ads can not be blocked. I've noticed that pop-ups have become more code intensive and actual open as an element of the page itself. These usualy have a convenient little "close" link, but it still appears, and many are in the middle of the page so it's very easy to accidentaly click the link while it is rendering. We need better blockers too it would seem.
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IANAL, but wouldn't the fact that it is being copyrighted mean that anyone can get the 'formula' to how it works? Then we can created filters or blocking utilities to stop them alltogether. This is exactly the kind of crap we should be creating legislation against, rather then rewarding patents to. This is pure criminal behavior from my point of view. But thats just my opionion.
I don't really disagree with what you have to say, but I don't feel your final comment is correct. I think that as the market share for *NIX grows we will see more, not less, hacks and security holes. Number one from poorly written/configured apps.. When *NIX is as popular as Windows to the mass market (Joe Sixpack) there will be a huge demand for apps quickly, just like in the Windows world, and there will be a line of poor coders waiting to produce and sell/share those apps. Number two, once the script kiddies start dillengently poking away at the *NIX OS's we will see a lot more previously ignore or missed holes/exploits appearing. I have NO DOUBTS that the community will keep up with these new issues as they are discovered, just as has been in the past, but there will still be more identified. -just my opionin.
This is not about who likes what operating system; it's about which is more 'ready' for the desktop environment. There is no secret in the *NIX community that there is no desktop environment to compete with Windows. It would be GREAT if this werent true.. I prefer *NIX, allways have, flavor doesn't really matter, but NOT for a desktop. It runs like a champ for a server, it's great to tinker with and get under the hood, but it's not at all intuitive to a new or less experienced user. There have been great strides in the development of a sustainable *NIX desktop environment (props to KDE and Gnome), and they all have something unique to offer the user, but there is no solidarity between them. Being an admin in both worlds I feel the pains and pleasure of both on a daily basis; and I'm not a hardcore zealot for either. Why? Because there is a proper tool for every job, and who manufactures or creates the tool doesn't matter at all to me. What matters is, can I use the tool, and use it effectively for what I need to do. *NIX has not met this need in the desktop arena. I keep my fingers crossed, and I try the new revs as they are released, but it's not quite there yet. I have no doubts it will be in the near future though!
BTW, I have both *NIX desktops and Windows desktops at work and home, and they are each of equal value to me. Unfortunetly, at this point, the *NIX desktops are for tinkering and learning.
As technology progresses and hardware and software applications morph to meet the demands of the future, newer and better tools will still be needed. There may be a lull in software production currently (in some markets); but that is wholly a byproduct of our ailing economy. As long as we have the need for computer assistance we will have the need for software apps to accompany that hardware. There will always be someone standing on top of a soap box shouting 'nay the end is near', but I don't buy that crap. If Larry says software production is grinding to a halt, it's because he wants people to think that. Likely to serve some money hungry all ulterior motive that we are not aware of.
Won't this lead to just another form of 'wardriving'; maybe something like 'housedriving'. Seriously, the implications of someone being able to jump frequency to your home is very scary. I would be a little nervous implementing this in my own home. At least without a tinfoil helmet.
Agreed.. There is no need for all the extra equipment and overhead. Plus, DSL can be a pain, and setting up the seperate routers at each resedence is going to require time and effort; not to mention becoming the defacto tech support person for the complex.
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How is this going to hurt the MS strangle-hold over the desktop environment? Neither SUN or RH could compete with MS for the desktop; why would the two together be any different? If the two were to partner up and dump huge amounts of capital into developing a more robust and usable desktop there may be a chance.. But I doubt seriously that this is their intention. This may put a ding in MSs armor, but it won't affect their overall control of the desktop arena. But that's just my worthless $0.02.
It is. It is turning into a corporate marketing playground. There are some very good points in this article and we should definitely consider its legitimacy. I for one hate to see the way the 'web is evolving. Just about every element of browsing has been touched by advertising and marketing and it's only getting worse. The dissemination of good information is becoming more and more difficult. I firmly believe the internet is heading the way of broadcast TV (commercials, pay options 'better' access, restrictions, etc.). There will always be a great repository of information, it will just be ever more difficult to tap. Unless of course you're looking for pr0n0.
I was working mainly on their nasa.gov web farm.. Which is all Windows 2000, using Windows 2000 based RAID filers, and MS SQL. Don't know where you work or what you do, and I'm not claiming to know everything about NASA, but I didn't see anything other than MS while I was there. There were of course some mainframes about, and some random dev boxes, but all the servers around me were MS based OSs. Then again, seeing as I was representing MS at the time, that probably had something to do with it. Anyway, this is good news for OSS and for NASA, as long as their interests continue and they don't abondon the idea.
I used to work for Microsoft and was asked to help NASA several times with support/dev issues they were experiencing. I've visited the Space Center in Cape Canaveral, as well as some other external NASA locations, and they are using a lot of MS technologies. This is definitely a step in the right direction for the Open Source movement, but NASA has a long way to go before any Open Source initiative has any real impact on their development. Don't get me wrong, I'm very excited they made this decision, but it's a very small step. Besides, NASA has an extremely rigorous testing campaign for all new hardware and software, so these changes won't be noticed for some time to come. Otherwise this is a great step forward for OSS and I'm very pleased to hear about it! When I was working with them there was a huge aversion to OSS and it gave me the impression that they were diehard MS. There may still be hope for America's space development!
Yes, but it wouldn't be a proper /. post without a thousand a$$holes, er I mean opions, flying around.
It's nice to hear some reason within the millions of MS bashing posts. The security and reliability of any server lies squarely on the administrator. There are millions of Windows machines in the wild that can be exploited at the drop of a hat; same true for *NIX. Not because the OS sux, but because they have not be properly configured and secured. Win2000 and WinXP are very reliable products. Almost to the point that I will agree that MS might have shot themselves in the foot to some degree; but me being the consumer, I only see a benefit to that argument.
http://www.weather.com/ Almost allways has some crap I can't block.
I use opera, which has pop-up blocking built-in, but some ads can not be blocked. I've noticed that pop-ups have become more code intensive and actual open as an element of the page itself. These usualy have a convenient little "close" link, but it still appears, and many are in the middle of the page so it's very easy to accidentaly click the link while it is rendering. We need better blockers too it would seem.
IANAL, but wouldn't the fact that it is being copyrighted mean that anyone can get the 'formula' to how it works? Then we can created filters or blocking utilities to stop them alltogether. This is exactly the kind of crap we should be creating legislation against, rather then rewarding patents to. This is pure criminal behavior from my point of view. But thats just my opionion.
Why would I bother spell checking a /. post? Oh wait, me sees the Anon Coward and knows.. Troll.
I don't really disagree with what you have to say, but I don't feel your final comment is correct. I think that as the market share for *NIX grows we will see more, not less, hacks and security holes. Number one from poorly written/configured apps.. When *NIX is as popular as Windows to the mass market (Joe Sixpack) there will be a huge demand for apps quickly, just like in the Windows world, and there will be a line of poor coders waiting to produce and sell/share those apps. Number two, once the script kiddies start dillengently poking away at the *NIX OS's we will see a lot more previously ignore or missed holes/exploits appearing. I have NO DOUBTS that the community will keep up with these new issues as they are discovered, just as has been in the past, but there will still be more identified. -just my opionin.
This is not about who likes what operating system; it's about which is more 'ready' for the desktop environment. There is no secret in the *NIX community that there is no desktop environment to compete with Windows. It would be GREAT if this werent true.. I prefer *NIX, allways have, flavor doesn't really matter, but NOT for a desktop. It runs like a champ for a server, it's great to tinker with and get under the hood, but it's not at all intuitive to a new or less experienced user. There have been great strides in the development of a sustainable *NIX desktop environment (props to KDE and Gnome), and they all have something unique to offer the user, but there is no solidarity between them. Being an admin in both worlds I feel the pains and pleasure of both on a daily basis; and I'm not a hardcore zealot for either. Why? Because there is a proper tool for every job, and who manufactures or creates the tool doesn't matter at all to me. What matters is, can I use the tool, and use it effectively for what I need to do. *NIX has not met this need in the desktop arena. I keep my fingers crossed, and I try the new revs as they are released, but it's not quite there yet. I have no doubts it will be in the near future though! BTW, I have both *NIX desktops and Windows desktops at work and home, and they are each of equal value to me. Unfortunetly, at this point, the *NIX desktops are for tinkering and learning.
As technology progresses and hardware and software applications morph to meet the demands of the future, newer and better tools will still be needed. There may be a lull in software production currently (in some markets); but that is wholly a byproduct of our ailing economy. As long as we have the need for computer assistance we will have the need for software apps to accompany that hardware. There will always be someone standing on top of a soap box shouting 'nay the end is near', but I don't buy that crap. If Larry says software production is grinding to a halt, it's because he wants people to think that. Likely to serve some money hungry all ulterior motive that we are not aware of.
Won't this lead to just another form of 'wardriving'; maybe something like 'housedriving'. Seriously, the implications of someone being able to jump frequency to your home is very scary. I would be a little nervous implementing this in my own home. At least without a tinfoil helmet.
60+ units could make for a helluva LAN party on the weekends!
Agreed.. There is no need for all the extra equipment and overhead. Plus, DSL can be a pain, and setting up the seperate routers at each resedence is going to require time and effort; not to mention becoming the defacto tech support person for the complex.
Keep it simple.