I completely disagree, coming right out of college and getting 70k is actually damn good.
Not around here, 70K is actually a low end figure. Coming right out of college or not, they're actually favoring new college grads. Come to sillicon valley and see what nonsense is going on here, with new grad & h1b recruiting. Its a fucking slaughterhouse.
Yahoo has a policy that they close your account if they die.
I assume all bets are off if Yahoo dies. But getting back to the point;
I think setting up a legal trust would involve a level of research and planning not suggested by his choice to simply use Yahoo hosting.
Uh, if I understand your terrible use of English... legal trusts, living wills, etc, are fairly common place and any lawyer who specializes in such, and there are many, would have it set up in a jiffy. You're not really sure what you're talking about, are you?
The site is paid for, Yahoo needs to do the right thing and leave the site up. Dead people don't have rights, so the poster who asked about Manley's lawyers is right on the money, hopefully he set up a legal trust to deal with these issues. If Manley had set this up with Japanese hoster they probably wouldn't have thought twice about hosting the site.
I have a friend who worked for Zynga during the high-flyin' days; she worked on Farmville. Said it was a sweat shop and the management were terrible overlords. Same thing from another friend at EA, again, during EA's salad days. But then I have another friend who works for Valve and he says its great there. So, I guess you kind of have to get lucky. As for the comment above that goes along the lines of "he's lucky to have an offer at $70K", that seems kind of low. If he knows GL native code or ActiveX, either managed or native, he doesn't have to take that offer, he can get more from someone else.
The real crime here is that law enforcement agencies are...
THE REAL crime here is that there is NO WAY this Fed action passes the first amendment smell test. ANYONE has an ABSOLUTE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to say whatever they want about lie detectors, yet no one seems to give a wiff.
My fault was in hoping for you to understand English. Clearly I was asking for too much.
Oh? Hows that? Looks like I understand your "english" just fine.
Since my claim was that it wasn't particularly amazing to have heard of Woz by then if you were a true technophile, you come off as even more idiotic than usual.
How's that?
I'm not even going to get into your inability to punctuate properly.
probably becuase its pedantic and infantile to do so
So you think that the words "I knew about Wozniak well before the Internet went mainstream" indicate an indication of personal familiarity with him. You should probably stop going around telling people you speak English, since... and I know you won't follow this... people usually think it means you also understand it when it is written.
Don't know, don't care... say what you mean, mean what you say. I'm bored.
And horribly wrong, but you don't know that. I'll also note that your complaints are exactly what I expected "I want broken classes" and "I don't like dynamic languages". Ridiculous.
I want broken classes??? How did you get that out of what I said?
(prototypal inheretance) It's much much more powerful and flexible than class-based inheritance. Your off your rocker pal. Protoypal inheretance my have its uses but it IS NOT OOP. Protypal inheretance works fine in the template world and has its place, but is no replacement for pure OOp pradigms.
This makes absolutely no sense.
js code reuse relies on nesting, which is a BAD IDEA.
This is equally incoherent. JavaScript, at one time, lacked block-level scope; but that had absolutely nothing to do with OOP. (Neither is JavaScript an "OOP language", whatever that's supposed to mean. It's closer to Lisp than it is to Java.)
WHAT IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?
I'd ask you what bizarre reasoning brought you to that conclusion...
Use makes me say these "bizarre" things. Js claims to be an OOP language, yet the rules it follows is more like PHP.
1) The fat arrow indirection pointer is a huge interpeter hole depending on how its implemented
2) Prototypal inheretance (need I say more?)
3) Code reuse in javascript is fake and dumb
4) protoypical behavior in js is very bad, almost as bad as PHP
5) only functions can create scope, making js a not very well implemented OOP language
6) No type security, again, almost as bad as PHP
There are more, but I'm bored.
Ok kids, for those who don't understand, this is astronomical porn. Read it, watch it, understand it. Its VERY rare to capture such things on film. Like, Lottery Winning rare. This guy will be revered throughout the astronomical world.
I knew about Wozniak well before the Internet went mainstream (circa 1982), and well before hearing about Jobs.
How would you have heard of Woz before '82? You lived in Cupertino, CA and subscribed to the Homestead High newsletter? Or did you work for HP, where Woz was a grunt and worked for pennies? Did you belong to the Homebrew Computer Club in the late 70's?
I'm a Japanophile and Samurai history enthousiast, I'd love to have been a personal friend of Tokugawa Ieyasu, but at least on my side the man was famous, he was the Shogun of all Japan and laid down the law of that country for 250 years. Woz? At that time? How did you know about him? Inquiring minds are curious.
I'm sure I'm not alone in being fed the fuck up with corporations taking control of different aspects of our lives via unilateral contracts.
This isn't a problem with a corp, in this case its state law makers, really. And you're not the first/.'r to miss this. How can so many "consumers" get this wrong?
Javascript is a horrible language. But we're locked into it now becuase for whatever reason every browser maker decided to buy into it, and then you get great tools that make diamonds out of shit like Node.js and etc., so here we are.
Hard to say. Jobs and Woz met through mutual friend Fernandez becuase Fern built a little pc prototype, obviously Jobs was turned on by tech. But then after high school he goes to a community college in Portland taking courses in calligraphy. But we know this: he brought vision to a field dominated at the time by stuffed shirts who saw NO value in giving tech to the masses. What did HP execs tell Jobs n' Woz when they tried to sell them on the Apple I? "What do consumers need with computers?" (paraphrasing). Jobs certainly was a PR guy. Would he have been a great PR guy for any product? Dunno... I think that's the question.
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I completely disagree, coming right out of college and getting 70k is actually damn good.
Not around here, 70K is actually a low end figure. Coming right out of college or not, they're actually favoring new college grads. Come to sillicon valley and see what nonsense is going on here, with new grad & h1b recruiting. Its a fucking slaughterhouse.
yeah yeah, directx. that's what I get for mentioning a technology I have very little experience with.
Yahoo has a policy that they close your account if they die.
I assume all bets are off if Yahoo dies. But getting back to the point;
I think setting up a legal trust would involve a level of research and planning not suggested by his choice to simply use Yahoo hosting.
Uh, if I understand your terrible use of English... legal trusts, living wills, etc, are fairly common place and any lawyer who specializes in such, and there are many, would have it set up in a jiffy. You're not really sure what you're talking about, are you?
The site is paid for, Yahoo needs to do the right thing and leave the site up. Dead people don't have rights, so the poster who asked about Manley's lawyers is right on the money, hopefully he set up a legal trust to deal with these issues. If Manley had set this up with Japanese hoster they probably wouldn't have thought twice about hosting the site.
I have a friend who worked for Zynga during the high-flyin' days; she worked on Farmville. Said it was a sweat shop and the management were terrible overlords. Same thing from another friend at EA, again, during EA's salad days. But then I have another friend who works for Valve and he says its great there. So, I guess you kind of have to get lucky. As for the comment above that goes along the lines of "he's lucky to have an offer at $70K", that seems kind of low. If he knows GL native code or ActiveX, either managed or native, he doesn't have to take that offer, he can get more from someone else.
Don't be a spoil sport, you did construct the sentance incorrectly.
The real crime here is that law enforcement agencies are...
THE REAL crime here is that there is NO WAY this Fed action passes the first amendment smell test. ANYONE has an ABSOLUTE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to say whatever they want about lie detectors, yet no one seems to give a wiff.
Hords of people are capturing asteroid collisions in real time with gay abandon? I don't think so.al time
My fault was in hoping for you to understand English. Clearly I was asking for too much.
Oh? Hows that? Looks like I understand your "english" just fine.
Since my claim was that it wasn't particularly amazing to have heard of Woz by then if you were a true technophile, you come off as even more idiotic than usual.
How's that?
I'm not even going to get into your inability to punctuate properly.
probably becuase its pedantic and infantile to do so
So you think that the words "I knew about Wozniak well before the Internet went mainstream" indicate an indication of personal familiarity with him. You should probably stop going around telling people you speak English, since ... and I know you won't follow this ... people usually think it means you also understand it when it is written.
Don't know, don't care... say what you mean, mean what you say. I'm bored.
And horribly wrong, but you don't know that. I'll also note that your complaints are exactly what I expected "I want broken classes" and "I don't like dynamic languages". Ridiculous.
I want broken classes??? How did you get that out of what I said?
(prototypal inheretance) It's much much more powerful and flexible than class-based inheritance. Your off your rocker pal. Protoypal inheretance my have its uses but it IS NOT OOP. Protypal inheretance works fine in the template world and has its place, but is no replacement for pure OOp pradigms.
This makes absolutely no sense.
js code reuse relies on nesting, which is a BAD IDEA.
This is equally incoherent. JavaScript, at one time, lacked block-level scope; but that had absolutely nothing to do with OOP. (Neither is JavaScript an "OOP language", whatever that's supposed to mean. It's closer to Lisp than it is to Java.)
WHAT IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?
I'd ask you what bizarre reasoning brought you to that conclusion...
Use makes me say these "bizarre" things. Js claims to be an OOP language, yet the rules it follows is more like PHP.
Two thumbs up. I never knew either but I could easily imagine these descriptions for both men.
Fishing and man -in-the-middle attacks are quite common w/html, I'm surprised you haven't heard of them.
You should probably look up the word circa...
Thanks, I speak english.
I cut my teeth on a Kaypro luggable and an early Apple II.
You heard of Wozniak after the Apple II came out, amazing.
Then it wouldn't surprise you that people who have been in the field since the early '80s have heard of him.
Heard of him, yes. You made it sound like you knew the fucker and dated his sister.
1) The fat arrow indirection pointer is a huge interpeter hole depending on how its implemented 2) Prototypal inheretance (need I say more?) 3) Code reuse in javascript is fake and dumb 4) protoypical behavior in js is very bad, almost as bad as PHP 5) only functions can create scope, making js a not very well implemented OOP language 6) No type security, again, almost as bad as PHP There are more, but I'm bored.
One by one the cornerstones of represtitive government get kicked out of place and are used to pave the road to totalitarianism.
Yeah. I just released gallons of "water" after you cleared that up. Doof.
Ok kids, for those who don't understand, this is astronomical porn. Read it, watch it, understand it. Its VERY rare to capture such things on film. Like, Lottery Winning rare. This guy will be revered throughout the astronomical world.
I knew about Wozniak well before the Internet went mainstream (circa 1982), and well before hearing about Jobs.
How would you have heard of Woz before '82? You lived in Cupertino, CA and subscribed to the Homestead High newsletter? Or did you work for HP, where Woz was a grunt and worked for pennies? Did you belong to the Homebrew Computer Club in the late 70's?
I'm a Japanophile and Samurai history enthousiast, I'd love to have been a personal friend of Tokugawa Ieyasu, but at least on my side the man was famous, he was the Shogun of all Japan and laid down the law of that country for 250 years. Woz? At that time? How did you know about him? Inquiring minds are curious.
Woz is a hippy, through and through, no doubt.
I'm sure I'm not alone in being fed the fuck up with corporations taking control of different aspects of our lives via unilateral contracts.
This isn't a problem with a corp, in this case its state law makers, really. And you're not the first /.'r to miss this. How can so many "consumers" get this wrong?
The Internet: looks like state lawmakers did't see that comin'!
It's the walling of the gardens that's going to do us in.
Userland rejected the walled garden in the late 90's, they'll reject it again.
I don't need to download & install a program on to my laptop to bank online.
No, you just need to ignore the inherent insecurities that go with using html apps. How nice.
Javascript is a horrible language. But we're locked into it now becuase for whatever reason every browser maker decided to buy into it, and then you get great tools that make diamonds out of shit like Node.js and etc., so here we are.
Hard to say. Jobs and Woz met through mutual friend Fernandez becuase Fern built a little pc prototype, obviously Jobs was turned on by tech. But then after high school he goes to a community college in Portland taking courses in calligraphy. But we know this: he brought vision to a field dominated at the time by stuffed shirts who saw NO value in giving tech to the masses. What did HP execs tell Jobs n' Woz when they tried to sell them on the Apple I? "What do consumers need with computers?" (paraphrasing). Jobs certainly was a PR guy. Would he have been a great PR guy for any product? Dunno... I think that's the question.