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No I hadn't heard of that. Thanks for the info. Water would still be cooler though.
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I don't read Danish, and I didn't look very hard at the pictures.
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Wouldn't it be like, 3.32 X 10^-8 parts per billion though? I'm no good at chem, so please correct me. Do you really mean to say that there is no chemical way to continuously remove H+ and OH- ions from water? Would the natural desolved ions in water even be able to carry enough current to disrupt computer operations?
I didn't think that dissolution of air in liquids was a phenomenon involving chemical reactions, but one involving physical reactions, rather. I've only had high school chemistry, so I would appreciate someone either confirming or correcting me.
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Yawn.
Here's an idea for a casemod that would actually impress me:
Get some expensive pure water, some with NO corrosive dissolved oxygen, and completely electrically neutral, meaning no OH- and H+ ions. I realize that water is self-ionizing, so the removal of these ions might need to be continuous.
Unpack, assemble, and run your awesome computer in a container full of this stuff.
I don't care how expensive or chemically unfeasible that would be, but that would actually be impressive. I've heard of computers running submerged in vegetable oil before, since vegetable oil is made of large covalent molecules, but I don't care. I want an underwater computer.
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Really, if it's not completely insulated, you're asking for dead fish. I've had lots of cases that had stray voltage in them, and I got quite a buzz just standing with barefeet on unfinished concrete in my old basement touching the cases.
Oh, ok. Yes I agree the quotes don't make sense. I don't know though how you could make that any less technical though without then not providing the information that tech support would need.
I don't understand. Was "memeory" your error or theirs? What are you poking fun at? Besides the mispelling, that seems like a perfectly reasonable error message to me.
Yes, I agree with all of that. My only question is what else could Microsoft do? The patch is out, and forced automatic security updates via the net whenever a new patch is released would cause more problems than it would solve. Should Microsoft make more of an effort to educate it's users and encourage them to install the latest updates? If this is what you're saying, I agree also.
I don't see why home.msn.com, the default homepage for Internet Explorer, doesn't nag everyone to get the latest patches.Right now all it says is "Internet Worm Spreads" in point 12 font. The "Recipes that Sizzle" box easily takes up 13-14 times the amount of space. It should say in bright bold huge font, "Is your computer shutting down on it's own? Download the patch now to stop those hackers in your computer or keep them out before they start!" That's close enough to the truth, and it would get a lot more people to download, which is what's important to slow the spread. I talked to a kid that was quite dumbfounded by the worm. He didn't ever have enough time before shutdowns to even figure out what it was. Most people I think would need that kind of prodding to actually get the patch. Most people will not know what "internet worm spreads" even means, or that it applies to them.
Now, do you mean to say that it's Microsoft's fault for making an operating system vulnerable in this way in the first place? It' harder for me to put the blame on them in that way. This was a very stupid vulnerability, but everyone makes mistakes!
No, they're not. From what he tells me, most of the employees have locked down systems that run all their needed apps from the network over citrix metaframe etc. Nothing is supposed to be installed or stored locally on any of the client systems. Yes, viruses could probably still be introduced via the method you described, but they would probably only infect client machines, not the systems where the databases are stored. Another related and interesting issue, is doctors there whining that, for example, aol instant messenger can't get through the firewall. Of course you can't tell doctors they shouldn't run that, so there's no choice but to open it up. Demands from doctors are on of the bigger headaches for the IT support staff there.
Another good one is when doctors go to some convention and a software vendor convinces them they need some piece of software. One that doesn't work with the databases already set up, etc.
You bring up an interesting point. My father is a Windows 2000 administrator for a large multi-site hospital system(seven hospitals, 2 longterm care facilities and 35 clinics). Thankfully they stay up to date on the latest patches and have a good firewall so they were completely unaffected. They also recently went through an emergency preparedness drill making them take a look at what would happen on the computer side of things if say, a tornado wiped out such and such hospital. They look at things like, where do we keep the tape backups of patient records, what services are necessary for the billing department? For the most part, mission critical applications are mainframe issues, and patient records etc are isolated from silly internet-propagated worms.
My point is that if a staff has competent employees with an eye for security, usually viruses and worms' impact can be reduced to at most, a nuisance.
Still, I agree with you completely. Virus authors need to realize that it's not all just in fun. People don't "deserve it" just because they are vulnerable. And, you're not going to teach anyone a lesson. It's not l33t haxoring, it's childish and immature vandalism, plain and simple.
Yes, and it was Einstein who said in 1942 "A person who has not made his great
contribution to science before the age of 30 will never do so."
When Albert first published his special theory of relativity in 1905, it did not include the famous E=MC^2. He added it to another publication of it later that year. He was 26.
In 1971, Stephen Hawking suggested the creation of mini black holes following the big bang. These mini black holes might contain billions of tons of mass, but have the volume of an elementary particle. In 1971, Stephen Hawking was 29.
Galileo conducted his famous experiment where he dropped bodies of different weights from the tower of Piza sometime between 1589 when he was appointed chair of mathematics at the University of Piza as a result of his theorems pertaining to centers of gravity, and 1592 when his anti-aristotlean veiws caused him to lose this post. Galileo was born in 1564, making him somewhere between 25 and 28 years old during that time.
Your mentioning of three great men who made significant contributions to science before the age of 30 proves that it is possible, but the grandparent poster is still right. Most scientists at least, who make very important conttributions to their field do so before the age of 30.
1. The quality or condition of being dense.
2.
1. The quantity of something per unit measure, especially per unit length, area, or volume.
2. The mass per unit volume of a substance under specified conditions of pressure and temperature.
3. Computer Science. The number of units of useful information contained within a linear dimension.
4. The number of individuals, such as inhabitants or housing units, per unit of area.
5. The degree of optical opacity of a medium or material, as of a photographic negative.
6. Thickness of consistency; impenetrability.
7. Complexity of structure or content.
8. grazzy (56382)
I don't see how you can call yourself a geek if you don't even know the difference between grammar and spelling, unless English is not your first language.
I'm familiar with set theory. If the post I was replying to had said what you said, that would be true. However, the poster said they were equal, not that microsoft is a subset of evil and that patents is a subset of evil as you stated.
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No I hadn't heard of that. Thanks for the info. Water would still be cooler though.
I don't read Danish, and I didn't look very hard at the pictures.
Wouldn't it be like, 3.32 X 10^-8 parts per billion though? I'm no good at chem, so please correct me. Do you really mean to say that there is no chemical way to continuously remove H+ and OH- ions from water? Would the natural desolved ions in water even be able to carry enough current to disrupt computer operations?
I didn't think that dissolution of air in liquids was a phenomenon involving chemical reactions, but one involving physical reactions, rather. I've only had high school chemistry, so I would appreciate someone either confirming or correcting me.
Yawn.
Here's an idea for a casemod that would actually impress me:
Get some expensive pure water, some with NO corrosive dissolved oxygen, and completely electrically neutral, meaning no OH- and H+ ions. I realize that water is self-ionizing, so the removal of these ions might need to be continuous.
Unpack, assemble, and run your awesome computer in a container full of this stuff.
I don't care how expensive or chemically unfeasible that would be, but that would actually be impressive. I've heard of computers running submerged in vegetable oil before, since vegetable oil is made of large covalent molecules, but I don't care. I want an underwater computer.
Really, if it's not completely insulated, you're asking for dead fish. I've had lots of cases that had stray voltage in them, and I got quite a buzz just standing with barefeet on unfinished concrete in my old basement touching the cases.
My understanding was not that cellophane was a polarizer, but that it had the ability to rotate the direction of polarized light by 90 degrees.
Oh, ok. Yes I agree the quotes don't make sense. I don't know though how you could make that any less technical though without then not providing the information that tech support would need.
I don't understand. Was "memeory" your error or theirs? What are you poking fun at? Besides the mispelling, that seems like a perfectly reasonable error message to me.
They assume that because the message the worm leaves behind sounds like a script kiddie.
Yes, I agree with all of that. My only question is what else could Microsoft do? The patch is out, and forced automatic security updates via the net whenever a new patch is released would cause more problems than it would solve. Should Microsoft make more of an effort to educate it's users and encourage them to install the latest updates? If this is what you're saying, I agree also.
I don't see why home.msn.com, the default homepage for Internet Explorer, doesn't nag everyone to get the latest patches.Right now all it says is "Internet Worm Spreads" in point 12 font. The "Recipes that Sizzle" box easily takes up 13-14 times the amount of space. It should say in bright bold huge font, "Is your computer shutting down on it's own? Download the patch now to stop those hackers in your computer or keep them out before they start!" That's close enough to the truth, and it would get a lot more people to download, which is what's important to slow the spread. I talked to a kid that was quite dumbfounded by the worm. He didn't ever have enough time before shutdowns to even figure out what it was. Most people I think would need that kind of prodding to actually get the patch. Most people will not know what "internet worm spreads" even means, or that it applies to them.
Now, do you mean to say that it's Microsoft's fault for making an operating system vulnerable in this way in the first place? It' harder for me to put the blame on them in that way. This was a very stupid vulnerability, but everyone makes mistakes!
Sorry if I was unclear, but my understanding is that there are no mission critical applications there that rely on windows.
No, they're not. From what he tells me, most of the employees have locked down systems that run all their needed apps from the network over citrix metaframe etc. Nothing is supposed to be installed or stored locally on any of the client systems. Yes, viruses could probably still be introduced via the method you described, but they would probably only infect client machines, not the systems where the databases are stored. Another related and interesting issue, is doctors there whining that, for example, aol instant messenger can't get through the firewall. Of course you can't tell doctors they shouldn't run that, so there's no choice but to open it up. Demands from doctors are on of the bigger headaches for the IT support staff there.
Another good one is when doctors go to some convention and a software vendor convinces them they need some piece of software. One that doesn't work with the databases already set up, etc.
You bring up an interesting point. My father is a Windows 2000 administrator for a large multi-site hospital system(seven hospitals, 2 longterm care facilities and 35 clinics). Thankfully they stay up to date on the latest patches and have a good firewall so they were completely unaffected. They also recently went through an emergency preparedness drill making them take a look at what would happen on the computer side of things if say, a tornado wiped out such and such hospital. They look at things like, where do we keep the tape backups of patient records, what services are necessary for the billing department? For the most part, mission critical applications are mainframe issues, and patient records etc are isolated from silly internet-propagated worms.
My point is that if a staff has competent employees with an eye for security, usually viruses and worms' impact can be reduced to at most, a nuisance.
Still, I agree with you completely. Virus authors need to realize that it's not all just in fun. People don't "deserve it" just because they are vulnerable. And, you're not going to teach anyone a lesson. It's not l33t haxoring, it's childish and immature vandalism, plain and simple.
Well ok, just as long as you're consistent.
:=)
Was anyone from your university on the panel?
If I sell you a gun, and you shoot your wife, should I be held responsible?
Now, if I sell you bandwidth, and you use it to download copyrighted material, should I be held responsible?
Maybe you should read A Modest Proposal by Swift.
Ever heard of Galileo, Hawking, or Einstein?
Yes, and it was Einstein who said in 1942 "A person who has not made his great contribution to science before the age of 30 will never do so."
When Albert first published his special theory of relativity in 1905, it did not include the famous E=MC^2. He added it to another publication of it later that year. He was 26.
In 1971, Stephen Hawking suggested the creation of mini black holes following the big bang. These mini black holes might contain billions of tons of mass, but have the volume of an elementary particle. In 1971, Stephen Hawking was 29.
Galileo conducted his famous experiment where he dropped bodies of different weights from the tower of Piza sometime between 1589 when he was appointed chair of mathematics at the University of Piza as a result of his theorems pertaining to centers of gravity, and 1592 when his anti-aristotlean veiws caused him to lose this post. Galileo was born in 1564, making him somewhere between 25 and 28 years old during that time.
Your mentioning of three great men who made significant contributions to science before the age of 30 proves that it is possible, but the grandparent poster is still right. Most scientists at least, who make very important conttributions to their field do so before the age of 30.
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n. pl. densities
1. The quality or condition of being dense.
2.
1. The quantity of something per unit measure, especially per unit length, area, or volume.
2. The mass per unit volume of a substance under specified conditions of pressure and temperature.
3. Computer Science. The number of units of useful information contained within a linear dimension.
4. The number of individuals, such as inhabitants or housing units, per unit of area.
5. The degree of optical opacity of a medium or material, as of a photographic negative.
6. Thickness of consistency; impenetrability.
7. Complexity of structure or content.
8. grazzy (56382)
I don't see how you can call yourself a geek if you don't even know the difference between grammar and spelling, unless English is not your first language.
Well about 500 million would be about 25% of 2 billion. I guess we have varying definitions of the word "sting."
I'm familiar with set theory. If the post I was replying to had said what you said, that would be true. However, the poster said they were equal, not that microsoft is a subset of evil and that patents is a subset of evil as you stated.
I don't know if this helps at all, but according to the transitive property of equality, that means we can conclude that Microsoft = Patents!
Think about that for a while.
Then, moderate this post up as insightful.
Consider also that revenue != profit. So yeah, I say it is certainly going to sting some.