From what I've heard about Stallman (including that my mother knew him in the late 70s:)), he is not a good public speaker.
I saw him speak in public a couple of years ago. He's not bad. Not dazzling, charismatic or magnetic, but calm, insightfull and intelligent. He is no stranger to public speaking and will be on his home turf. I think (and hope) that he'll do fine.
"the average American income could increase from today's ~$35,000/y-person to more than $150,000/y-person."
Average wage says nothing about wealth gaps.
How will this be any different from business as usual - that is, 100 people get insanely rich, maybe 10 000 do well, and more minimum-wage jobs for the rest.
I don't give a toss about that, which part of non-sequitur do you not understand? The thread was about hungarian notation, which sucks.
Oh. May I refer you to your first post, wherein I described Simonyi as "someone who has influenced the current state of the art of programming with several of his ideas" Note that I did not say for good or for ill, though I would surmise that if an idea catches on, these is likely to be some good in it for those who use it. Those who don't find good in it, shouldn't use it and not waste everyone's time whining about how much it sucks, like 13 year-olds.
Note also that this description is not limited to Hungarian notation. Clear? Good.
Now you replied that he was "influencing (the current state of the art of programming) negatively". I see that you did not refer specifically to Hungarian notation either, so this could be a slur on his life's work as a whole. I took the liberty to point out another contribution that you are unlikely to be able regard as an entirely bad thing. It is thus completely sequitur to bring up wysiwyg, as it shows how it would be wrong to say that overall, Simonyi has influenced the start of the art negatively.
... why don't you search for "strawman". I didn't call you an idiot; it would be redundant.... flame... fucktards... winge... moan...
I get a total of 3 hits on google for "my cat is really a dog" - including the quotes.
Without the quotes, of course, google discards "is and "a" so all you are doing is finding pages where people natter about thier pets using the words "cat", "dog", "my" and "really" close together.
It's a tool, you have to use it right. The hits where people mention Monica Bellucci in the same breath as silicone are not proof no, but they are highly suggestive of rubber tits, as is the Matrix.
Even in the most advanced countries in the world, the vast majority of people are still unable to read or write any kind of computer language.
Try this metaphor:
"In western countries, the majority of adults drive a car on a daily basis, yet most of them are unable to strip down it's engine and replace the sparkplugs or piston-rings at all. They are the modern mechano-peasants, in thrall to garage mechanics, prisoners of thier ignorance."
Oh please. Don't confuse the need to use with need to be able to fix it yourself.
After seeing Reloaded, we debated the matrix-within-a-matrix conundrum. My view at the time was that it was a deliberate ambiguity, to make us want to come back and find out in part three, and it could have been resolved in one of two ways:
1) Zion's world is also a simulation, a deliberate escape-valve designed into the matrix sim, that Neo was now learning to master (or unlearning the limitations...)
2) What I termed "hooddo mystical hippie crap". I'm cynical that way, sorry. The Matrix #1 can make scientific sense, just barely, if you ignore that human power plant idea a bit... and the antigravity... and... um anyway it's tightly plotted so I saw no reason to now let pseudo-religion newage fantasy stuff be used as a way as a writer's general license to make it up as they went along. Then again, these are holywood screenwriters we are talking about, they're easily capable of such a cop-out.
I would say that in essence, #2 proved to be correct. The site that inspired this/.story points out that in story terms, it's actually the simpler option.
Search google for "simonyi wysiwyg" (sorry about the typo, if that's the worst you can do to try to agravate me then don't bother) Before you call the guy an idiot. Idiot.
"hominid" implies an evolutionary family tree. The races of Middle-earth were created by Illuvator at the beggining of the first age, thus there is no such thing there.
In Middle Earth, The creation story is not a fiction. But then, Middle Earth is a fiction:)
Ah, the myth of "Africans". Africa is a continent. Zulu is actually a fairly common surname, among Zulus, who live in South Africa, quite far from Nigeria. How seriously would you take a mail from an Frenchman who gave his name as "Mr Borislav" because hey, same continent;)
no, tthe great thing about the internet is... proof to the fact that you really CAN pile shit that high.
The way in which Sturgeon's law (90% of everything is crap) applies to the internet, and indeed is conservative in estimating the content-to-bullshit ratio of media such as free web hosted pages and AC posts on slashdot, does not mitigate the effect of large numbers - even if a small fraction of the content is worthwhile, we're talking about a small fraction of a large amount.
No, and this is the great thing about the internet - anyone can pull up a soapbox at very low cost, and may even get an audience. If you've got code, sourceforge will share it out. And so on.
But free, profesionally run internet sites do require a means of revenue, of which banner ads is a (the main?) example. Also so do the free internet sites that serve very large numbers of people.
I have the ad-blocking, but then I've got the whole Norton internet security package installed. After seeing how much more stable my pc is with it, and the way in that on an average week it reports several script kiddies coming a-knocking (and this pc is only on for a few hours in the evenings), I'll say this:
If you're running Windows, and you have broadband, you need a firewall.
Based on my experience, open source projects... are always higher quality than the code that comes out of professional programmers.
In my personal experience, code written for open source projects is written by professional programmers (or by a subset of them who enjoy programming), only not under a deadline, and for kicks not for money. It makes a difference.
But Hungarian notation doesn't fix that flaw. It's only as reliable as the programmer who writes the code. In most cases, that means not reliable at all.... I have been bitten before by relying on the Hungarian junk at the start,
So? You could have been bitten buy assuming that a function called IncrementValue() doesn't divide the value by 12. You could have been bitten by assuming that the comment above the function accurately describes the contents. There is no programming technique whatsoever that can stop you from being bitten by the mistakes of dumb cow orkers.
This does not mean that meaningful function names, accurate comments and a judicious amount of type info in var names are bad things.
That little invention really reflects how stupid this guy is.
May I ask what you've achieved to be able to call "stupid" someone who has influenced the current state of the art of programming with several of his ideas?
I guess PDAs are not that big in Europe, esp. PDAs with WiFi.
I'm in the UK and I recently purchased a palm tungesten T3.
PDAs with WiFi are not common, period.
They are physically bigger, much more expensive, have even worse battery life and there's not many models to choose from. I'm sure that my next PDA will have wifi not bluetooth but that's in a year or two.
Donald J. Trump... I would like a computer chip that I could attach to the brains of all my contractors so that they would know exactly what I wanted, when I wanted it, and at what price I wanted it.
If I had a boss like that (I don't, thankfully), I'd want the device to be two-way, so he could share my vivid mental image of exactly what I'd like him to shove, and where.
And I suppose that every other site that offers the ablility to edit posts suffers from this phenomenon....NOT.
Indeed. How do they solve it? And how can that solution be applied here? Do other sites have a technical fix at all or are they just not as thoroughly-trolled as slashdot?
The only experince that I can bring to bear here is of everything2. E2 gets past this problem in two ways: Firstly the site is structured differently. Posts are not replies and they are not threaded. There are far more topics created than on slashdot and the ratio of posts per topic is far lower than on slashdot.
Users are encouraged to write posts that stand alone within the topic, even if there are other posts there.
When you reply, you should reply to a fixed article - an imutable historical record of what someone said. You can't edit your verbal utterances or email once sent, so why should this be different?
Secondly the editorial staff is far more proactive in deleting posts that are offtopic, trolling or even just obsoleted.
I think that Slashdot would have to change a lot for editable posts to make sense.
The question is not about the limits, the question is how far we are from the limits. And the answer is damn far!
If the limit is the total amount of solar energy recieved by the earth, then we are indeed far off. If the limit is the amount of energy that we have access to with current and near-future technology then it's not so certain.
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From what I've heard about Stallman (including that my mother knew him in the late 70s :)), he is not a good public speaker.
I saw him speak in public a couple of years ago. He's not bad. Not dazzling, charismatic or magnetic, but calm, insightfull and intelligent. He is no stranger to public speaking and will be on his home turf. I think (and hope) that he'll do fine.
Wealth gap doesn't mean anything.
While it doesn't mean everything, it definitly means something.
If you're making $200,000 a year right now, does it matter to you that Bill Gates is worth billions? It shouldn't.
But it should if you are on minimum wage, making less than your counterparts in the 1970s did.
The fact is that all of society, like it or not, benefits from the acheivements of a very small minority.
Ah, "trickle down economics". Ha.
That minority is very well rewarded in the U.S.
No kidding. Just ask Halliburton.
which is why the country has the richest poor in the world.
No it doesn't. That honour goes to countries where the government is of and for the people, not of and for the rich.
"the average American income could increase from today's ~$35,000/y-person to more than $150,000/y-person."
Average wage says nothing about wealth gaps.
How will this be any different from business as usual - that is, 100 people get insanely rich, maybe 10 000 do well, and more minimum-wage jobs for the rest.
I don't give a toss about that, which part of non-sequitur do you not understand? The thread was about hungarian notation, which sucks.
... why don't you search for "strawman". I didn't call you an idiot; it would be redundant. ... flame ... fucktards ... winge ... moan ...
Oh. May I refer you to your first post, wherein I described Simonyi as "someone who has influenced the current state of the art of programming with several of his ideas" Note that I did not say for good or for ill, though I would surmise that if an idea catches on, these is likely to be some good in it for those who use it. Those who don't find good in it, shouldn't use it and not waste everyone's time whining about how much it sucks, like 13 year-olds.
Note also that this description is not limited to Hungarian notation. Clear? Good.
Now you replied that he was "influencing (the current state of the art of programming) negatively". I see that you did not refer specifically to Hungarian notation either, so this could be a slur on his life's work as a whole. I took the liberty to point out another contribution that you are unlikely to be able regard as an entirely bad thing. It is thus completely sequitur to bring up wysiwyg, as it shows how it would be wrong to say that overall, Simonyi has influenced the start of the art negatively.
Now run back to class, kid.
Anyone else notice how many functional robots there are in this section?
...
Robots have been "the future" for so long, I kinda wrote them off with flying cars and moonbases. But slowly, they are becoming real
Which is cool. Except for that robo-cat, which looks to me like a creepy undead reanimated cat-pelt.
I get a total of 3 hits on google for "my cat is really a dog" - including the quotes.
Without the quotes, of course, google discards "is and "a" so all you are doing is finding pages where people natter about thier pets using the words "cat", "dog", "my" and "really" close together.
It's a tool, you have to use it right. The hits where people mention Monica Bellucci in the same breath as silicone are not proof no, but they are highly suggestive of rubber tits, as is the Matrix.
Even in the most advanced countries in the world, the vast majority of people are still unable to read or write any kind of computer language.
Try this metaphor:
"In western countries, the majority of adults drive a car on a daily basis, yet most of them are unable to strip down it's engine and replace the sparkplugs or piston-rings at all. They are the modern mechano-peasants, in thrall to garage mechanics, prisoners of thier ignorance."
Oh please. Don't confuse the need to use with need to be able to fix it yourself.
Monica Bellucci is a fox.
... google search for "Monica Bellucci silicone" ... 1250 hits ... it's not real ... ho hum
Eh
After seeing Reloaded, we debated the matrix-within-a-matrix conundrum. My view at the time was that it was a deliberate ambiguity, to make us want to come back and find out in part three, and it could have been resolved in one of two ways:
...)
... and the antigravity ... and ... um anyway it's tightly plotted so I saw no reason to now let pseudo-religion newage fantasy stuff be used as a way as a writer's general license to make it up as they went along. Then again, these are holywood screenwriters we are talking about, they're easily capable of such a cop-out.
/.story points out that in story terms, it's actually the simpler option.
1) Zion's world is also a simulation, a deliberate escape-valve designed into the matrix sim, that Neo was now learning to master (or unlearning the limitations
2) What I termed "hooddo mystical hippie crap". I'm cynical that way, sorry. The Matrix #1 can make scientific sense, just barely, if you ignore that human power plant idea a bit
I would say that in essence, #2 proved to be correct. The site that inspired this
Search google for "simonyi wysiwyg" (sorry about the typo, if that's the worst you can do to try to agravate me then don't bother) Before you call the guy an idiot. Idiot.
> Some experts say that it's impossible to damage the drive in this way, but I'm not buying that
Yeah, because he knows way more than any expert
It has moving parts. Sooner or later, it will fail.
Nothing. Which is still better than influencing it negatively.
So do you really think that WYSIWGY text editing is a bad idea, or are you just clueless?
"hominid" implies an evolutionary family tree. The races of Middle-earth were created by Illuvator at the beggining of the first age, thus there is no such thing there.
:)
In Middle Earth, The creation story is not a fiction. But then, Middle Earth is a fiction
Ah, the myth of "Africans". Africa is a continent. Zulu is actually a fairly common surname, among Zulus, who live in South Africa, quite far from Nigeria. How seriously would you take a mail from an Frenchman who gave his name as "Mr Borislav" because hey, same continent ;)
no, tthe great thing about the internet is ... proof to the fact that you really CAN pile shit that high.
The way in which Sturgeon's law (90% of everything is crap) applies to the internet, and indeed is conservative in estimating the content-to-bullshit ratio of media such as free web hosted pages and AC posts on slashdot, does not mitigate the effect of large numbers - even if a small fraction of the content is worthwhile, we're talking about a small fraction of a large amount.
"Free Internet" does not require banner ads.
No, and this is the great thing about the internet - anyone can pull up a soapbox at very low cost, and may even get an audience. If you've got code, sourceforge will share it out. And so on.
But free, profesionally run internet sites do require a means of revenue, of which banner ads is a (the main?) example. Also so do the free internet sites that serve very large numbers of people.
I have the ad-blocking, but then I've got the whole Norton internet security package installed. After seeing how much more stable my pc is with it, and the way in that on an average week it reports several script kiddies coming a-knocking (and this pc is only on for a few hours in the evenings), I'll say this:
If you're running Windows, and you have broadband, you need a firewall.
Based on my experience, open source projects ... are always higher quality than the code that comes out of professional programmers.
In my personal experience, code written for open source projects is written by professional programmers (or by a subset of them who enjoy programming), only not under a deadline, and for kicks not for money. It makes a difference.
But Hungarian notation doesn't fix that flaw. It's only as reliable as the programmer who writes the code. In most cases, that means not reliable at all. ... I have been bitten before by relying on the Hungarian junk at the start,
So? You could have been bitten buy assuming that a function called IncrementValue() doesn't divide the value by 12. You could have been bitten by assuming that the comment above the function accurately describes the contents. There is no programming technique whatsoever that can stop you from being bitten by the mistakes of dumb cow orkers.
This does not mean that meaningful function names, accurate comments and a judicious amount of type info in var names are bad things.
That little invention really reflects how stupid this guy is.
May I ask what you've achieved to be able to call "stupid" someone who has influenced the current state of the art of programming with several of his ideas?
From the article:
What, exactly, would a machine for writing software look like? It would itself be software.
Well, I call mine a "compiler". They're not new.
I guess PDAs are not that big in Europe, esp. PDAs with WiFi.
I'm in the UK and I recently purchased a palm tungesten T3.
PDAs with WiFi are not common, period.
They are physically bigger, much more expensive, have even worse battery life and there's not many models to choose from. I'm sure that my next PDA will have wifi not bluetooth but that's in a year or two.
Donald J. Trump... I would like a computer chip that I could attach to the brains of all my contractors so that they would know exactly what I wanted, when I wanted it, and at what price I wanted it.
If I had a boss like that (I don't, thankfully), I'd want the device to be two-way, so he could share my vivid mental image of exactly what I'd like him to shove, and where.
And I suppose that every other site that offers the ablility to edit posts suffers from this phenomenon....NOT.
Indeed. How do they solve it? And how can that solution be applied here? Do other sites have a technical fix at all or are they just not as thoroughly-trolled as slashdot?
The only experince that I can bring to bear here is of everything2. E2 gets past this problem in two ways:
Firstly the site is structured differently. Posts are not replies and they are not threaded. There are far more topics created than on slashdot and the ratio of posts per topic is far lower than on slashdot.
Users are encouraged to write posts that stand alone within the topic, even if there are other posts there.
When you reply, you should reply to a fixed article - an imutable historical record of what someone said. You can't edit your verbal utterances or email once sent, so why should this be different?
Secondly the editorial staff is far more proactive in deleting posts that are offtopic, trolling or even just obsoleted.
I think that Slashdot would have to change a lot for editable posts to make sense.
The question is not about the limits, the question is how far we are from the limits. And the answer is damn far!
If the limit is the total amount of solar energy recieved by the earth, then we are indeed far off. If the limit is the amount of energy that we have access to with current and near-future technology then it's not so certain.