If you can't understand that this case is about cencorship, then I do not know what you are reading. Justin Frankel is the founder of Nullsoft, which is now a subsidiary of AOL. He is leaving because the company will not let him publish his software.. Which is CENCORSHIP.
Who on earth modded you up?
Probobaly the same dumbass who gave you points for trying to insult me so poorly.
Where I live, dumpster diving is considered tresspass which could lead to theft charges
Where I live, where we set our trash to be picked up is considered city property(anything past the sidewalk). So it would not be trespassing on someone's property, unless the garbage was not at the curb.
This was an underhanded misuse of an already bad law to get the site taken down.
I would not be surprised to see the use of this law in this case to go high up.. and to set a precident that it grants authorities too much power before a guilty verdict.
Justin Frankel's Website
Here he talks about his wanting to resign from the company due to recent cencorship against his products..
It's not about contracts, etc.. it's just about the fact that he isn't allowed to express himself freely doing what he loves.
Here is some more comments about his leaving...
Now Ohio State should sue google for being ranked below Michigan.. because Google is unfairly using their bias-ness for Michigan to rank them higher then Ohio State.
UofM was ranked in the first page where as Ohio State was not..
SUE GOOGLE... err wait.. that would make them as low as Search King.. nevermind..
Well like what has been said before.. there was a trial, they were found guilty of antitrust issues.
There was nothing wrong with implementing IE into Windows that I see.
The reason they are guilty of antitrust is because the reason they did it was solely to undercut the competition.. not to make IE better. THAT is why they were guilty. Not because they actually did it.
Microsoft did not play quite fairly. When one installed the latest internet explorer, they were also changing windows DLLs that are preloaded on boot. This gives Internet Explorer a significant speed and stability boost. Netscape, on the other hand does not have that liberty.
So let's put this into perspective.. let's say we have two Wireless ISPs.. one is ALSO a dial-up provider, the other, strictly wireless.
Are you saying that the one with the dial-up service should not include free dialup with their wireless account because it is unfair?
No, the fact that MS can use the preloaded DLLs to make their browser faster is called 'good thinking'. In all honesty, if Netscape could do that, then they WOULD. MS is only uses what is at their dispense.. since MS can not violate their own TOS agreement with modifying Windows like that, then they have that option at their disposal, unlike Netscape.
I believe there was a quote from the antitrust trial in which a memo was brought forth by the VP saying that Windows should be altered "so that running any other browser should be a jolting experience for the user"
And they did this how? by making IE run faster? Hip Hip Hooray for MS for being innovative and thinking of new ways to make their stuff run faster. It is not their fault that(at the time) Netscape was to bulky and buggy to run right and run as fast as IE.. Opera had no problem running fast and was not bulky. Only problem, Opera hasn't had the press that IE or Netscape did. I use Opera, but use it with an IE identifier.
But that is not the issue here.. the article said they all recalled their drives..
Which is in fact not true, since neither Maxtor or Seagate have issued recalls.. and in fact Maxtor does not have a manufacturing plant in China yet.. which is where the article claims the bad Hard Drives were all produced.
So it's not the fact that their could be bad drives, it's the fact that the article has parts to it that are not true, and they did not call the companies to confirm the information they got from their "sources".
Yes but you are forgetting that they are getting rid of the BIOS entirely here shortly, and replacing it with a program that is in itself an entire OS.
Seagate has officially issued a press release saying this they have not issued ANY recall regarding drives shipped to Taiwan.
Although Maxtor and Hitachi were not available
for comment, Seagate has "damned" this report innacurate.
Here is the link to the report of Seagate denying ANY HDD Recalls.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/30897.html
I guess you miss the point... When you are writing millions of lines of code, stuff is going to get missed and overlooked. That's the way things go... it's GONNA happen.
Plus, this is Microsoft, fixing a problem with a MICROSOFT product.. when they issue the patch, it causes a problem with 3rd party stuff.. that is not MS's responsibility.. because that means there is a coding error in the 3rd party software.
What MS did was fix a problem that made their stuff not run completely compliant with standards, and when they fixed it to work for the standard the 3rd party software broke the connection.. that means the 3rd party software does not run on the standard either.
If anything we should be happy the Microsoft still issues patches for their software since they don't legally have to.. and since it is definately not cost effective to devote your employees to working on something they can't sell.. but instead is given away for free.
In all technical terms, the only way to be 100% secure is to kill all network access.. See, Microsoft's patch worked.. just WAY to well for what you guys wanted:)
Yes... one thing we are all forgetting in this puzzle is that Phoenix is NOT the only BIOS maker out there.. In fact, I have only had one mobo that I personally owned that had a Pheonix BIOS on it.
There is one thing we can do as consumers, and that is boycott all motherboards with this BIOS on it when and IF it comes to Market.
If they don't include the ability to flash their BIOS's.. I sure hope they don't employ any Microsoft programmers over there.. lordy knows they can't release anything bug proof the first time round.
Actually the BIOS has complete control over all the hardware parts in the system. Once it detects a Network chip it can use that to do whatever it wants.
Remember that a BIOS is an OS in itself. Windows and the such only extend the ability to operate/read/write to the disks. Windows only sees what the BIOS shows it..
Anything can be done through the BIOS as long as their is enough space to store it all on the chip... scary thought now that someone has brought their idea forward.. but there are enough people out there that modify BIOS's that it will not last long after it is brought to public.
"Want power (~10W) and your fat 10/100Mbps pipe (1Gbps maybe) on the SAME jack.
Since Cat6, or Gigabit Ethernet uses all 8 wires, you can not use your gigabit installation with P.O.E.
P.O.E. has been a godsend for me in the Wireless Industry, but it's just like being an electrician, don't ever trust your partner to do the other side of the cable, because when you are up on a TV Antenna, and he already finished his end and accidentally plugged it in.. you might feel a nice ZAP on your end when you clamp down with your crimpers:)
Yeah but FireWire is strictly for devices connected to your computer.
I am a Wireless Internet Tech.
I install Wireless bridges on people's home TV antennas, etc.. without P.O.E., how would you get power to the device sitting outside? I certainly have never seen an "Outdoor Standard Firewire Cable"
When you are getting 512KB, 1MB, or even at kick ass top of the line Wireless 802.11b, 11MB/s, why do you need the 800MB from firewire anyways? You don't.
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If you can't understand that this case is about cencorship, then I do not know what you are
reading. Justin Frankel is the founder of Nullsoft, which is now a subsidiary of AOL. He
is leaving because the company will not let him publish his software.. Which is CENCORSHIP.
Who on earth modded you up?
Probobaly the same dumbass who gave you points for trying to insult me so poorly.
I would not be surprised to see the use of this law in this case to go high up.. and to set a precident that it grants authorities too much power before a guilty verdict.
I cannot and it will not be considered piracy in a court room. Here is some more on the subject..
Justin Frankel's Website Here he talks about his wanting to resign from the company due to recent cencorship against his products.. It's not about contracts, etc.. it's just about the fact that he isn't allowed to express himself freely doing what he loves. Here is some more comments about his leaving...
Now Ohio State should sue google for being ranked below Michigan.. because Google is unfairly using their bias-ness for Michigan to rank them higher then Ohio State.
UofM was ranked in the first page where as Ohio State was not..
SUE GOOGLE... err wait.. that would make them as low as Search King.. nevermind..
Well like what has been said before.. there was a trial, they were found guilty of antitrust issues.
There was nothing wrong with implementing IE into Windows that I see.
The reason they are guilty of antitrust is because the reason they did it was solely to undercut the competition.. not to make IE better. THAT is why they were guilty. Not because they actually did it.
I see nothing illegal about using what is at your disposal. It's smart business.. to not use it would be absolutely insane.
So let's put this into perspective.. let's say we
have two Wireless ISPs.. one is ALSO a dial-up
provider, the other, strictly wireless.
Are you saying that the one with the dial-up
service should not include free dialup with their
wireless account because it is unfair?
No, the fact that MS can use the preloaded DLLs
to make their browser faster is called 'good
thinking'. In all honesty, if Netscape could
do that, then they WOULD. MS is only uses what
is at their dispense.. since MS can not violate
their own TOS agreement with modifying
Windows like that, then they have that option
at their disposal, unlike Netscape.
And they did this how? by making IE run faster?
Hip Hip Hooray for MS for being innovative and
thinking of new ways to make their stuff run
faster. It is not their fault that(at the time)
Netscape was to bulky and buggy to run right
and run as fast as IE.. Opera had no
problem running fast and was not bulky.
Only problem, Opera hasn't had the press
that IE or Netscape did. I use Opera, but
use it with an IE identifier.
But that is not the issue here.. the article
said they all recalled their drives..
Which is in fact not true, since neither Maxtor
or Seagate have issued recalls.. and in fact
Maxtor does not have a manufacturing plant in China yet.. which is where the article claims the
bad Hard Drives were all produced.
So it's not the fact that their could be bad
drives, it's the fact that the article has
parts to it that are not true, and they did not
call the companies to confirm the information
they got from their "sources".
Yes but you are forgetting that they are getting rid of the BIOS entirely here shortly, and replacing it with a program that is in itself an entire OS.
Seagate has officially issued a press release
l
saying this they have not issued ANY recall
regarding drives shipped to Taiwan.
Although Maxtor and Hitachi were not available
for comment, Seagate has "damned" this report
innacurate.
Here is the link to the report of Seagate
denying ANY HDD Recalls.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/30897.htm
I guess you miss the point... When you are writing millions of lines of code, stuff is going to get missed and overlooked. That's the way things go... it's GONNA happen.
Plus, this is Microsoft, fixing a problem with a MICROSOFT product.. when they issue the patch, it causes a problem with 3rd party stuff.. that is not MS's responsibility.. because that means there is a coding error in the 3rd party software.
What MS did was fix a problem that made their stuff not run completely compliant with standards, and when they fixed it to work for the standard the 3rd party software broke the connection.. that means the 3rd party software does not run on the standard either.
If anything we should be happy the Microsoft still issues patches for their software since they don't legally have to.. and since it is definately not cost effective to devote your employees to working on something they can't sell.. but instead is given away for free.
In all technical terms, the only way to be 100% secure is to kill all network access.. :)
See, Microsoft's patch worked.. just WAY to well for what you guys wanted
Yes ... one thing we are all forgetting in this puzzle is that Phoenix is NOT the only BIOS maker out there.. In fact, I have only had one mobo that I personally owned that had a Pheonix BIOS on it.
There is one thing we can do as consumers, and that is boycott all motherboards with this BIOS on it when and IF it comes to Market.
Then we'll see how long it lasts.
If they don't include the ability to flash their BIOS's.. I sure hope they don't employ any Microsoft programmers over there.. lordy knows they can't release anything bug proof the first time round.
Actually the BIOS has complete control over all the hardware parts in the system. Once it detects a Network chip it can use that to do whatever it wants. Remember that a BIOS is an OS in itself. Windows and the such only extend the ability to operate/read/write to the disks. Windows only sees what the BIOS shows it.. Anything can be done through the BIOS as long as their is enough space to store it all on the chip... scary thought now that someone has brought their idea forward.. but there are enough people out there that modify BIOS's that it will not last long after it is brought to public.
Yeah but FireWire is strictly for devices connected to your computer. I am a Wireless Internet Tech. I install Wireless bridges on people's home TV antennas, etc.. without P.O.E., how would you get power to the device sitting outside? I certainly have never seen an "Outdoor Standard Firewire Cable" When you are getting 512KB, 1MB, or even at kick ass top of the line Wireless 802.11b, 11MB/s, why do you need the 800MB from firewire anyways? You don't.