That scenario would great if we wrote code or had any inclination to write or change code. We don't. We will install software and test it to ensure it works. So if a client asks for POSIX compatibility or specifies UNIX 03 or specify LSB 3.1, that's what they get. Because they might install software after we hand over the machines which we don't know about and they won't necessarily tell us.
No. That's not what I said. If you knew anything about guns you'd know that you can buy a shell collector that just clips onto the most popular weapons to run a lot of ammo through. Since you don't, maybe you should just clam up and let the people who do have the conversation.
If you didn't read, I granted you the possibility. I specifically said also makes it more complex in that the multiple shooters had to bring such equipment with them. I also noted that equipment would not remove the smoke or smell from the room even if they could remove all the casings.
If only you could read, you'd know that it's not my scenario.
No that's THE scenario. If there were multiple shooters and multiple rooms, either law enforcement is part of the conspiracy as no other rooms have been found. Or law enforcement was so inept as not to sweep the hotel to look for possible other shooters.
You wrote: "I suppose a good example of this inability of people to understand the implications of actions was Sputnik. Most Americans and the world were busy worried about national prestige, it took some years for them to understand that the satellites in orbit meant the capability of delivering warheads to your doorstep. Meanwhile people who understood the implications of actions knew."
I fail to see the words "some people" in any of that. In fact you wrote: "Most Americans". Why do you think Americans were panicked over Sputnik? It wasn't because the Soviets would have better TV and weather satellites. It was potentially a new weapons platform. After all it was only a dozen years earlier that V-2 rockets hit targets in England from Continental Europe. Now the Soviets are capable of reaching space which means they could reach anywhere on the Earth.
What part of : "I can do 100% of all those things with a browser and phone calls. It's much faster and more convenient to use apps." is unclear to you?
WP already did a lot out of the box. It came with integration with Facebook, Twitter and on Nokia's phones a camera that was far superior to everything else out there.
"Far superior" is relative. It had some nice integration. And then a few updates later, Android and iOS caught up. The problem was that was all it offered. For other platforms, it was a long time and sometimes never to get an app. It would be even longer to get updates. If you tried to interact with those apps on WP today, you'd find it languishes way behind Android and iOS.
As for ugly, that's what you're left with if you remove the apps from iOS.
But you can get apps for iOS. You can't for WP. See the point.
Stacked ranking was designed for one scenario: If the company has gotten too large and needs to trim so fat. Then a year or two of stanked ranking helps reduce the waste and extraneous layers of management and personnel. It was not designed to be permanent which MS did.
Instead, they let RIM eat their lunch, then Apple, then Google. All the while kinda half-assing multiple doomed attempts in what is reminiscent of a shakespearean tragedy.
The problem with MS is they staged a multi-front war and ignored the mobile one. They went against Google in web searches and lost while trying to fight Apple on computer OS. Java was a threat to them so.NET had to be promoted. Then Apple started selling iPods and songs and even though they were not directly competing with MS in any way, MS had to make a competitor.
MS probably thought that mobile phones were safe. After all RIM and Symbian were making small incremental improvements that they could counteract with some of their previous tactics. They didn't see iPhone and Android coming that would leapfrog not only them but all their smart phone competitors.
The issue is that your work requirements are not everyone's work requirements. For example: email and calls. Yes. But I travel sometimes for work which means: At least a browser to book hotels, flights, rental cars. It means cab hailing apps sometimes. It also means a VPN app so I can get access to the company network when I'm on the road.
Now here's where apps help: Airline apps to check-in, book, upgrade, gate information. Hotel apps to check-in/check out, request service, get directions. Car rental apps to avoid the lines. I can do 100% of all those things with a browser and phone calls. It's much faster and more convenient to use apps.
For anyone who was following MS then, it's not a surprise. The stacked ranking system created so much in-fighting and division, it's more surprising that anything got done. It also set up a system where division was favored over cooperation. One of aspects of it was that you could only have a person graded as an "A", two "B"s, and the rest of the people were "C"s on any given team. So good employees avoided working with other good employees because they would get mediocre or sub-par reviews even if they did stellar work. Also teams actively sabotaged each other.
Case in point: The Kin. When MS bought out Danger, the company had a loyal following of phone customers for their Sidekicks especially among teens for texting. Originally Danger's plan was to incrementally update the OS and phones when they were bought out. That would have taken 6 months.
However, Danger OS used Java which would never be allowed at MS. The entire OS had to be replaced with Windows CE. The project was independent of the Windows devices division who felt they should have had control of it. Rumors are that they openly refused to assist and actively sabotaged the project. So Project Pink had to redo the whole OS and any apps in a platform without the benefit of the platform curators and creators. Delays turned the 6 months into 18 months. Because of the delays, deals that MS made with carriers were no longer honored and MS had to make new deals. Also at 18 months, most of the formerly loyal customers had moved onto other phones.
The result was the predictable disaster that was the Kin. It was buggy. It was missing features that other phones had that were deemed vital. It required an expensive data plan. It was pricey. Few teens (which was the targeted demographic) wanted it. The rumor is that only 500 phones were sold before MS killed the project. It cost MS $1B to buy Danger and develop the Kin.
Again, the increasingly complex scenario. Sure the other shooters planned and picked up the hundreds of casings. They also brought in an industrial fan to blow out the smoke into the hallway, down the hall, and out a door. They Febreezed the shit out of the room to remove the smell. Gunpowder smell isn't 3 day old fish but you'd notice it if someone emptied a few clips in a small hotel room. And they replaced the shot out windows. All of that without anyone noticing.
Or the hotel and law enforcement in on your scenario. 1) Law enforcement and hotel security did not search the hotel for possible other shooters. 2) Hotel cleaning staff are forbidden in certain rooms or do not report about the other rooms full of gun powder smoke and smell. 3) Everyone ignores the men who replaced the windows in the middle of the night.
Knucklehead that's because you're using the google filtered view of the world. Those of us who stepped outside their little walled garden and actually watched and read some of the conspiracy theory pages and videos know the claim is a 4th floor shooter.
Have you been to Vegas? Have you ever been in any high rise building? Most windows do not open. As for 4th floor shooter: Have you ever fired a gun from a perched position like a deer blind? A 4th floor position would not have been able to reach most of the crowd.
Was there really a 4th floor shooter? I don't know. But I do know you're absolutely fucking wrong that no one has alleged a lower floor shooter and you're too dumb to recognize that your false claim is due exactly to the fact that you automatically dismissed all that stuff because you only know what your corporate google masters want you to know, you poor dumb bastard.
I don't know that there was 4th floor shooter. I'm saying that a 4th floor window wasn't shot out so it's not likely that there was one. I dismissed the claim because the evidence doesn't support it. And what does Google have to do with any of that?
You'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes but won't have any idea it's happening because google didn't tell you about it. Idiot.
Feel free to feed your paranoia. Some of us use common sense. Do I trust Google with all my heart? No. But I don't ignore evidence because it's contrary to my bias of Google.
Some years before people realized that Sputnik would be a problem? What? The first and immediate fears caused by Sputnik to the US was that the USSR had superior technology. It wasn't a vague afterthought. President Eisenshower had to address it in what he termed the Sputnik crisis. He stated that due to the size and weight of Sputnik, it meant that the USSR did not have the a huge advance in technology. But he did acknowledge that the USSR had leapfrogged the US in ballistic missile technology and that the US had to catch up.
I just did a search of "Vegas Shooting Coverup" on YouTube. All the videos are the ones alleging conspiracy and cover up so I'm not sure that your point is valid.
This is what I mean. None of the allegations so far are that the other shooters were on the lowest floors. But to explain the fact that there were only 2 windows shot out, you are trying devise an increasing complex scenario. Also where is your source that "only the higher level floors of the Mandalay Bay hotel have windows that dont open." One look at the Mandalay Bay says otherwise. They are all uniform and fit snugly next to each other. They don't appear to open. They have to be replaced from the outside.
Here on Slashdot, we get into the same thing here when they claim that mod points are censorship.
That's not what the word "censorship" means I would say. All posts are visible if you want to see them. If you don't want to see them, that's a preference. It's not censorship.
And who wants to be interrupted by notifications about kooky end of the world/NASA moon landing hoax/perpetual motion/heat your house with 1 tea candle and a flowerpot/ bullshit except other kooks?
Yes, people who want to believe in them can still find them. I'm surprised no one has alleged that it must have been a reverse false flag. That Google wants you to believe a conspiracy by promoting, thus you shouldn't believe. Or that Google promoted it then removed it to encourage you believe so you shouldn't believe. "Truly, you have a dizzying intellect."
I'm the waiter telling you most people can't tell any difference between a $50 dollar bottle of wine and a $500 bottle
Despite the customer insisting to you that that is exactly what they want. You must hold down a lot of jobs in customer service.
Maybe everyone who gets the $500 dollar bottle is a super-taster, but more likely they want to impress someone.
Which would make it of your business, wouldn't it?
Sure there are a few corner cases were you 99.999% need POSIX compatibility, but for most things 99.98% is good enough.
Again how do you know what my clients want? You don't do you? You are imposing your opinion based on 0% knowledge of my clients. Thus complete speculation on your part.
Pulling a switcheroo is just plain silly and passive-aggressive (and nowhere did I suggest you do that), asking question about underlying technical requirements and new suggestions based on the answers is not.
No I answered your question: You don't know what my client needs are. You assume you know better than them. You also assume I don't know. You also assume that I am allowed to tell you or that you'd understand why. What I did tell you is that when a client makes a specific request that involves acquiring a Mac, they know what they are requesting because they request Linux machines all the time.
So going back to the wine analogy, and my original question. Are the order requirements actually about some vital technical difference in the product, or is it about something else?
As I said above: It's none of your business. At times, it's none of my business. The client requests it. We verify the request and then we fulfill the request. We don't try to pretend to be an arrogant asshole and challenge their request.
The other shooters would not have to be in other hotel rooms they could be on roof tops or other elevated places.
The shots from the videos that the conspiracists cite allege other rooms in the Mandalay not the rooftop or other hotels.
Are the number shell casings found in hotel consistent with the shots fired.
The number would have to be in the hundreds from each room. So far only 1 room with hundreds of casings has been found.
Authorities are trying to identify the number of shots fired including the ones that missed their human targets. There will be a through search to recover shell casings from other possible shooting sites.
There are no other sites unless you want to believe that the hotel and law enforcement are hiding them. Unless you want to believe that heavy windows were replaced secretly in the middle of the night.
In the end, why would someone lie about one vs multiple shooters? What is accomplished by diminishing the number of shooters?
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On a platform where an immense amount of handholding is part of the design and culture of the platform, compliant and obedient users are the norm.
Leave the 10 Windows Phone users out of this. Thanks, I'll be here all week. Tip your waitstaff.
That scenario would great if we wrote code or had any inclination to write or change code. We don't. We will install software and test it to ensure it works. So if a client asks for POSIX compatibility or specifies UNIX 03 or specify LSB 3.1, that's what they get. Because they might install software after we hand over the machines which we don't know about and they won't necessarily tell us.
No. That's not what I said. If you knew anything about guns you'd know that you can buy a shell collector that just clips onto the most popular weapons to run a lot of ammo through. Since you don't, maybe you should just clam up and let the people who do have the conversation.
If you didn't read, I granted you the possibility. I specifically said also makes it more complex in that the multiple shooters had to bring such equipment with them. I also noted that equipment would not remove the smoke or smell from the room even if they could remove all the casings.
If only you could read, you'd know that it's not my scenario.
No that's THE scenario. If there were multiple shooters and multiple rooms, either law enforcement is part of the conspiracy as no other rooms have been found. Or law enforcement was so inept as not to sweep the hotel to look for possible other shooters.
No, it's always Apple's fault that all computer users could be susceptible to this kind of attack.
You wrote: "I suppose a good example of this inability of people to understand the implications of actions was Sputnik. Most Americans and the world were busy worried about national prestige, it took some years for them to understand that the satellites in orbit meant the capability of delivering warheads to your doorstep. Meanwhile people who understood the implications of actions knew."
I fail to see the words "some people" in any of that. In fact you wrote: "Most Americans". Why do you think Americans were panicked over Sputnik? It wasn't because the Soviets would have better TV and weather satellites. It was potentially a new weapons platform. After all it was only a dozen years earlier that V-2 rockets hit targets in England from Continental Europe. Now the Soviets are capable of reaching space which means they could reach anywhere on the Earth.
What part of : "I can do 100% of all those things with a browser and phone calls. It's much faster and more convenient to use apps." is unclear to you?
So in order to save money for manned explorations to Mars, NASA should stop spending money on manned spaceflight? Are you reading your own words?
WP already did a lot out of the box. It came with integration with Facebook, Twitter and on Nokia's phones a camera that was far superior to everything else out there.
"Far superior" is relative. It had some nice integration. And then a few updates later, Android and iOS caught up. The problem was that was all it offered. For other platforms, it was a long time and sometimes never to get an app. It would be even longer to get updates. If you tried to interact with those apps on WP today, you'd find it languishes way behind Android and iOS.
As for ugly, that's what you're left with if you remove the apps from iOS.
But you can get apps for iOS. You can't for WP. See the point.
Counterpoints: Windows 10 Forced Upgrades
Edge makes itself the default browser despite settings.
While MS no longer treats Linux as a hostile competitor as Linux is rather unavoidable now, that doesn't mean MS isn't up to some of their tricks.
Stacked ranking was designed for one scenario: If the company has gotten too large and needs to trim so fat. Then a year or two of stanked ranking helps reduce the waste and extraneous layers of management and personnel. It was not designed to be permanent which MS did.
Note that I wrote that some people knew what it meant, and most didin't.
No you didn't and while some of the American people didn't see the ICBM threat, some did. The military did for sure.
Instead, they let RIM eat their lunch, then Apple, then Google. All the while kinda half-assing multiple doomed attempts in what is reminiscent of a shakespearean tragedy.
The problem with MS is they staged a multi-front war and ignored the mobile one. They went against Google in web searches and lost while trying to fight Apple on computer OS. Java was a threat to them so .NET had to be promoted. Then Apple started selling iPods and songs and even though they were not directly competing with MS in any way, MS had to make a competitor.
MS probably thought that mobile phones were safe. After all RIM and Symbian were making small incremental improvements that they could counteract with some of their previous tactics. They didn't see iPhone and Android coming that would leapfrog not only them but all their smart phone competitors.
The issue is that your work requirements are not everyone's work requirements. For example: email and calls. Yes. But I travel sometimes for work which means: At least a browser to book hotels, flights, rental cars. It means cab hailing apps sometimes. It also means a VPN app so I can get access to the company network when I'm on the road.
Now here's where apps help: Airline apps to check-in, book, upgrade, gate information. Hotel apps to check-in/check out, request service, get directions. Car rental apps to avoid the lines. I can do 100% of all those things with a browser and phone calls. It's much faster and more convenient to use apps.
Please cite your evidence. I can still access these videos on YouTube.
For anyone who was following MS then, it's not a surprise. The stacked ranking system created so much in-fighting and division, it's more surprising that anything got done. It also set up a system where division was favored over cooperation. One of aspects of it was that you could only have a person graded as an "A", two "B"s, and the rest of the people were "C"s on any given team. So good employees avoided working with other good employees because they would get mediocre or sub-par reviews even if they did stellar work. Also teams actively sabotaged each other.
Case in point: The Kin. When MS bought out Danger, the company had a loyal following of phone customers for their Sidekicks especially among teens for texting. Originally Danger's plan was to incrementally update the OS and phones when they were bought out. That would have taken 6 months.
However, Danger OS used Java which would never be allowed at MS. The entire OS had to be replaced with Windows CE. The project was independent of the Windows devices division who felt they should have had control of it. Rumors are that they openly refused to assist and actively sabotaged the project. So Project Pink had to redo the whole OS and any apps in a platform without the benefit of the platform curators and creators. Delays turned the 6 months into 18 months. Because of the delays, deals that MS made with carriers were no longer honored and MS had to make new deals. Also at 18 months, most of the formerly loyal customers had moved onto other phones.
The result was the predictable disaster that was the Kin. It was buggy. It was missing features that other phones had that were deemed vital. It required an expensive data plan. It was pricey. Few teens (which was the targeted demographic) wanted it. The rumor is that only 500 phones were sold before MS killed the project. It cost MS $1B to buy Danger and develop the Kin.
There's a Windows 10 Mobile? So is that targeted for the 4 people that still use Windows Mobile?
Again, the increasingly complex scenario. Sure the other shooters planned and picked up the hundreds of casings. They also brought in an industrial fan to blow out the smoke into the hallway, down the hall, and out a door. They Febreezed the shit out of the room to remove the smell. Gunpowder smell isn't 3 day old fish but you'd notice it if someone emptied a few clips in a small hotel room. And they replaced the shot out windows. All of that without anyone noticing.
Or the hotel and law enforcement in on your scenario. 1) Law enforcement and hotel security did not search the hotel for possible other shooters. 2) Hotel cleaning staff are forbidden in certain rooms or do not report about the other rooms full of gun powder smoke and smell. 3) Everyone ignores the men who replaced the windows in the middle of the night.
Knucklehead that's because you're using the google filtered view of the world. Those of us who stepped outside their little walled garden and actually watched and read some of the conspiracy theory pages and videos know the claim is a 4th floor shooter.
Have you been to Vegas? Have you ever been in any high rise building? Most windows do not open. As for 4th floor shooter: Have you ever fired a gun from a perched position like a deer blind? A 4th floor position would not have been able to reach most of the crowd.
Was there really a 4th floor shooter? I don't know. But I do know you're absolutely fucking wrong that no one has alleged a lower floor shooter and you're too dumb to recognize that your false claim is due exactly to the fact that you automatically dismissed all that stuff because you only know what your corporate google masters want you to know, you poor dumb bastard.
I don't know that there was 4th floor shooter. I'm saying that a 4th floor window wasn't shot out so it's not likely that there was one. I dismissed the claim because the evidence doesn't support it. And what does Google have to do with any of that?
You'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes but won't have any idea it's happening because google didn't tell you about it. Idiot.
Feel free to feed your paranoia. Some of us use common sense. Do I trust Google with all my heart? No. But I don't ignore evidence because it's contrary to my bias of Google.
Some years before people realized that Sputnik would be a problem? What? The first and immediate fears caused by Sputnik to the US was that the USSR had superior technology. It wasn't a vague afterthought. President Eisenshower had to address it in what he termed the Sputnik crisis. He stated that due to the size and weight of Sputnik, it meant that the USSR did not have the a huge advance in technology. But he did acknowledge that the USSR had leapfrogged the US in ballistic missile technology and that the US had to catch up.
I just did a search of "Vegas Shooting Coverup" on YouTube. All the videos are the ones alleging conspiracy and cover up so I'm not sure that your point is valid.
This is what I mean. None of the allegations so far are that the other shooters were on the lowest floors. But to explain the fact that there were only 2 windows shot out, you are trying devise an increasing complex scenario. Also where is your source that "only the higher level floors of the Mandalay Bay hotel have windows that dont open." One look at the Mandalay Bay says otherwise. They are all uniform and fit snugly next to each other. They don't appear to open. They have to be replaced from the outside.
Here on Slashdot, we get into the same thing here when they claim that mod points are censorship.
That's not what the word "censorship" means I would say. All posts are visible if you want to see them. If you don't want to see them, that's a preference. It's not censorship.
And who wants to be interrupted by notifications about kooky end of the world/NASA moon landing hoax/perpetual motion/heat your house with 1 tea candle and a flowerpot/ bullshit except other kooks?
Yes, people who want to believe in them can still find them. I'm surprised no one has alleged that it must have been a reverse false flag. That Google wants you to believe a conspiracy by promoting, thus you shouldn't believe. Or that Google promoted it then removed it to encourage you believe so you shouldn't believe. "Truly, you have a dizzying intellect."
I'm the waiter telling you most people can't tell any difference between a $50 dollar bottle of wine and a $500 bottle
Despite the customer insisting to you that that is exactly what they want. You must hold down a lot of jobs in customer service.
Maybe everyone who gets the $500 dollar bottle is a super-taster, but more likely they want to impress someone.
Which would make it of your business, wouldn't it?
Sure there are a few corner cases were you 99.999% need POSIX compatibility, but for most things 99.98% is good enough.
Again how do you know what my clients want? You don't do you? You are imposing your opinion based on 0% knowledge of my clients. Thus complete speculation on your part.
Pulling a switcheroo is just plain silly and passive-aggressive (and nowhere did I suggest you do that), asking question about underlying technical requirements and new suggestions based on the answers is not.
No I answered your question: You don't know what my client needs are. You assume you know better than them. You also assume I don't know. You also assume that I am allowed to tell you or that you'd understand why. What I did tell you is that when a client makes a specific request that involves acquiring a Mac, they know what they are requesting because they request Linux machines all the time.
So going back to the wine analogy, and my original question. Are the order requirements actually about some vital technical difference in the product, or is it about something else?
As I said above: It's none of your business. At times, it's none of my business. The client requests it. We verify the request and then we fulfill the request. We don't try to pretend to be an arrogant asshole and challenge their request.
Then you need to scroll up.
The other shooters would not have to be in other hotel rooms they could be on roof tops or other elevated places.
The shots from the videos that the conspiracists cite allege other rooms in the Mandalay not the rooftop or other hotels.
Are the number shell casings found in hotel consistent with the shots fired.
The number would have to be in the hundreds from each room. So far only 1 room with hundreds of casings has been found.
Authorities are trying to identify the number of shots fired including the ones that missed their human targets. There will be a through search to recover shell casings from other possible shooting sites.
There are no other sites unless you want to believe that the hotel and law enforcement are hiding them. Unless you want to believe that heavy windows were replaced secretly in the middle of the night.
In the end, why would someone lie about one vs multiple shooters? What is accomplished by diminishing the number of shooters?