It's a poor comparison, this isn't a win/lose standard fight. FORD vs GM would be better comparison. One existing doesn't and shouldn't preclude the other.
Picking one bad standard and resisting change for the better is not progress, or a good application of standards. Just look at Europe's Digital Satellite (D2MAC) and Wireless (Hiperlan). Standards should allow devices using the same standard interoperate, but shouldn't mean that other different, or better standards can't evolve or coexist.
The home DVD players could play +R/RW discs if the vendor bothered to offer a firmware upgrade. The incompatibility in most cases is purely artificial and in many cases purposeful. Toshiba and Panasonic being particular offenders is this respect. Would you tolerate FORD insisting it's cars could only use EXXON gasoline?
The irony of the VHS vs BETA example is that the plus group has the mass market and OEM acceptance of VHS and the superior strengths of BETA. The problem minus has now with 4X DVD-RW relates to some intrinsic failings in that standard, plus has a stronger position because it was engineered with a forward looking mentality. Plus is and will continue to lead any development envelope. While it is convient to note the original +RW issue with getting to +R, one must remember that the drives that can't support +R were designed before the +R standard was finalized.
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Sounds more like HMS Click Monkey
http://www.clickmonkeys.com/aboutus.shtml
8,547,991,552 bytes (7.96GB) less the overhead of your file system of choice.
Sony DL Info
DVD Formats
Disc Max User Capacity Note :DVD5 4.7GB Single layer Single sided disc
:DVD9 8.5GB Double layer Single sided disc
:DVD10 9.4GB Single layer Double sided disc
:DVD18 17.1GB Double layer Double sided disc
:DVD-R 4.7 GB Single layer Single sided disc
:DVD-RW 4.7 GB Single layer Single sided disc
:DVD+RW 4.7 GB Single layer Single sided disc
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TKM
DVD5 has a capacity of ~ 4,700,000,000 bytes
DVD9 has a capacity of ~ 8,500,000,000 bytes
I'd say that's a tad shy of 9 gigs even if you use marketing GB. They like to round these numbers up
DVD10 is a double sided DVD5
DVD18 is a double sided DVD9
For those who want typical numbers for user writable sectors for your recordable media of choice..
DVD+R9 has 0x3FB000 sectors
DVD+R has 0x230540 sectors
DVD-R 12 cm has 0x231280 sectors
DVD-R 8 cm has 0x0AE410 sectors
DVD-RAM has 0x222120 sectors
TKM
Why does everyone try to cite VHS vs BETA?
It's a poor comparison, this isn't a win/lose standard fight. FORD vs GM would be better comparison. One existing doesn't and shouldn't preclude the other.
Picking one bad standard and resisting change for the better is not progress, or a good application of standards. Just look at Europe's Digital Satellite (D2MAC) and Wireless (Hiperlan). Standards should allow devices using the same standard interoperate, but shouldn't mean that other different, or better standards can't evolve or coexist.
The home DVD players could play +R/RW discs if the vendor bothered to offer a firmware upgrade. The incompatibility in most cases is purely artificial and in many cases purposeful. Toshiba and Panasonic being particular offenders is this respect. Would you tolerate FORD insisting it's cars could only use EXXON gasoline?
The irony of the VHS vs BETA example is that the plus group has the mass market and OEM acceptance of VHS and the superior strengths of BETA. The problem minus has now with 4X DVD-RW relates to some intrinsic failings in that standard, plus has a stronger position because it was engineered with a forward looking mentality. Plus is and will continue to lead any development envelope. While it is convient to note the original +RW issue with getting to +R, one must remember that the drives that can't support +R were designed before the +R standard was finalized.
Actually it probably just need restarting, I'll go check with The Source....