This has nothing to do with new technology, and the vast majority of slashdotters could not be charged with this crime. Thanks for illustrating my point though. By only reading slashdot's presentation of this issue you've been given a totally false idea of whats going on and you fell for it.
Slashdot needs to change it's slogan from "News for nerds" to "Editorials for nerds."
This type of legal action is nothing new and has been happening for decades and there's nothing wrong with it. If you commit a heinous crime, they will charge you with every single criminal act they can find no matter how small. Slashdot would love for you to believe that this is something new that's never been done before that will have incredibly powerful effects in the future when the opposite is true. It's been happening for a very long time.
I should keep count of how many "articles" here aren't actually news but heavily biased editorials designed to feed the paranoid.
You've got it backwards. It would only be harmful if it was secret. Once everyone knows this exists, the people who believe God talks to them will no longer be able to say it really is God, and any "preacher" who claims that God is talking directly to him will no longer have any credibility. It will put personal faith back into religion if anything.
The business I admin still has W2K on all it's desktops and it's impossible to upgrade to IE7, so there's another flaw for you. There's a lot of people out there who couldn't upgrade IE even if they wanted to. Firefox tossing support so fast is making me consider uninstalling it from all our machines as well. The users get really upset when you make them change the way they do things, and Firefox pisses them off far more than IE does. Still waiting for the OSS community to get a clue on what users actually want and need.....
Your view of him should drop more because he can't seem to ever make up his mind where he stands on issues, rather than what his stance happens to be on any particular day. Even if he did change his mind back, how long would it stay that way? What would his actual vote be when it came time to decide? You will NEVER know what Obama is actually going to do, even if he tells you.
This is slashdot where the news will be twisted to serve it's agenda. The numbers are inaccurate and are being twisted, as usual. You can only run IE7 on XP or Vista. There are a lot of windows 2000 machines still out there, and even win98 as well. If it's impossible to upgrade to IE7 then how can it be counted as if people were voluntarily sticking with IE6? Slashdot never lets the truth get in the way of it's agenda though. Never.
Tried Foxit on my network just a couple months ago. Uninstalled it from the test machines after a week. Too many PDF's either wouldn't open or caused Foxit to crash.
You fail to understand that wars are no longer won with just soldiers and guns. Soldiers and guns are required to give a physical sort of security to the people so that they stop siding with insurgents and start siding with themselves, but they don't win wars. All you have to do is look at how hard liberals fight to protect and defend those who would cut off your head, hang you from a bridge, and burn your body to see how wars are won.
Slashdot pretends to be "news for nerds" when in fact it's articles are designed to promote paranoia and hatred towards the USA. The actual geek articles are actually just filler to keep people fooled.
You obviously know nothing about intelligence gathering. That conversation could reveal far more information than you could imagine. You can't learn anything from a single cryptic conversation, but you can learn volumes from many conversations, combined with other forms of intelligence. Your example is but one tiny piece of a jigsaw puzzle. By itself it's meaningless but when you put it with other pieces you can see an actual picture. That's why it's so important for our intelligence agencies to be able to gather information from as many places as possible. It takes a lot of pieces to put the picture together.
How can something with only one advantage but so many disadvantages, one being very harmful to humans AND the environment, be a step in the right direction? That is so backwards. People gotta stop being so fooled by granolas and their stupid backwards ideas. Ethanol anyone?
You're info is like 20 years old. Newer windmill designs don't kill nearly as many birds as the first models did, and bird deaths due to cars and windows is so much higher than windmills that it makes people who bring it up look really silly.
What I don't get is why anyone would invest billions into something that will only make thousands in profits. What a horrible waste of resources that is. Those billions could be so much better used than that. I smell bs in this story.
This is slashdot where you're supposed to believe that the military is full of mindless slave drones willing to do the evil bidding of our President. Don't wreck it. The socialists here are doing important work.
Your sensitive data, reports, charts, and passwords (if visible) have been handled by border officials for decades. You can blame the Republicans if you want though, don't let little things like facts get in your way.
1. He was randomly chosen for secondary questioning. Perfectly legal and constitutional.
2. He left the images on the desktop in a folder. They were not hidden.
3. This cannot be a violation of the 4th amendment because it was a border search. Border searches have been challenged and found to be constitutional numerous times in the past.
4. United States v. Flores-Montano, 541 U.S. 149, 153 (2004). Generally, "searches made at the border . . . are reasonable simply by virtue of the fact that they occur at the border . . .."
Flores-Montano, 541 U.S. at 152. Therefore, "[t]he luggage carried by a traveler entering the country may 4179 UNITED STATES v. ARNOLDbe searched at random by a customs officer . . . no matter how great the traveler's desire to conceal the contents may be."
He made no attempt to conceal the images as they were left on the desktop, but even if he had attempted to conceal them it wouldn't have mattered anyway.
5. Courts have long held that searches of closed containers and their contents can be conducted at the border without particularized suspicion under the Fourth Amendment. This includes items such as a purse, wallet, or pockets. A laptop is no different.
6. Flores-Montano, 541 U.S. at 152 (emphasis added), the Supreme Court has held open the possibility, "that some searches of property are so destructive as to require" particularized suspicion. Id. at 155-56 (emphasis added) (holding that complete disassembly and reassembly of a car gas tank did not require particularized suspicion). Since the search of his laptop did not require it to be damaged in any way, and the defendant also stated that his laptop was not damaged, it was again a legal search.
The only way he was going to get away with this is if he had shoved a memory stick up his butt and made sure he didn't do anything that caused suspicion.
The ethanol scam and subsidies for other failed "alternative energy" ideas is far more damaging to us than supposed global warming. Here's another 1,600 jobs that could be lost because of the cost increase of corn and this isn't the only company that's looking at shutting down plants. Count on food prices going even higher as supply drops. http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1Mqi49
If it works, people will want it, and the business won't need welfare to survive. If it doesn't then just like any other business it should be allowed to fail until someone figures out how to make it succeed.
Subsidies on "alternative energy" kill innovation by rewarding failure.
There are countries we have gone into and killed people in and stayed until the job was done, then stayed even longer and in some cases are still there. Countries like Germany and Japan. Are they not world powers now? Are they not civilized nations where people can prosper? How was that possible with the US military there if the military is the source of all the problems and does no good but cause death?
There are also countries where we have gone in and killed people then left before the job was done. What condition are they in? How many people have died because there was no stabilizing force?
So you're basically saying "We should not stay until the job is finished like we did in Germany and Japan because if anything it just causes more death."
I was in the Air Force so I don't think "tough guy" applies.:)
You should also check and see if the Constitution was actually violated. The initial Patriot Act did have some problems, but they have since been fixed. You're believing a little too much socialist propaganda there.
Remember, warrantless wiretaps doesn't mean they never need a warrant, it means they can get one later because time is critical. Sometimes you can't wait. No matter what you do it still has to be justified and legal.
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This has nothing to do with new technology, and the vast majority of slashdotters could not be charged with this crime. Thanks for illustrating my point though. By only reading slashdot's presentation of this issue you've been given a totally false idea of whats going on and you fell for it.
Slashdot needs to change it's slogan from "News for nerds" to "Editorials for nerds."
This type of legal action is nothing new and has been happening for decades and there's nothing wrong with it. If you commit a heinous crime, they will charge you with every single criminal act they can find no matter how small.
Slashdot would love for you to believe that this is something new that's never been done before that will have incredibly powerful effects in the future when the opposite is true. It's been happening for a very long time.
I should keep count of how many "articles" here aren't actually news but heavily biased editorials designed to feed the paranoid.
You've got it backwards. It would only be harmful if it was secret. Once everyone knows this exists, the people who believe God talks to them will no longer be able to say it really is God, and any "preacher" who claims that God is talking directly to him will no longer have any credibility.
It will put personal faith back into religion if anything.
The business I admin still has W2K on all it's desktops and it's impossible to upgrade to IE7, so there's another flaw for you. There's a lot of people out there who couldn't upgrade IE even if they wanted to. Firefox tossing support so fast is making me consider uninstalling it from all our machines as well. The users get really upset when you make them change the way they do things, and Firefox pisses them off far more than IE does.
Still waiting for the OSS community to get a clue on what users actually want and need.....
Another article designed to spread fear and paranoia. Someone must own stock in big pharma.
Your view of him should drop more because he can't seem to ever make up his mind where he stands on issues, rather than what his stance happens to be on any particular day. Even if he did change his mind back, how long would it stay that way? What would his actual vote be when it came time to decide? You will NEVER know what Obama is actually going to do, even if he tells you.
This is slashdot where the news will be twisted to serve it's agenda.
The numbers are inaccurate and are being twisted, as usual.
You can only run IE7 on XP or Vista. There are a lot of windows 2000 machines still out there, and even win98 as well. If it's impossible to upgrade to IE7 then how can it be counted as if people were voluntarily sticking with IE6?
Slashdot never lets the truth get in the way of it's agenda though. Never.
You don't think this applies to any country? The price of oil was global, last I checked.
Tried Foxit on my network just a couple months ago. Uninstalled it from the test machines after a week. Too many PDF's either wouldn't open or caused Foxit to crash.
The 1970's called. They want their propaganda back.
You fail to understand that wars are no longer won with just soldiers and guns. Soldiers and guns are required to give a physical sort of security to the people so that they stop siding with insurgents and start siding with themselves, but they don't win wars.
All you have to do is look at how hard liberals fight to protect and defend those who would cut off your head, hang you from a bridge, and burn your body to see how wars are won.
Slashdot pretends to be "news for nerds" when in fact it's articles are designed to promote paranoia and hatred towards the USA. The actual geek articles are actually just filler to keep people fooled.
You obviously know nothing about intelligence gathering. That conversation could reveal far more information than you could imagine. You can't learn anything from a single cryptic conversation, but you can learn volumes from many conversations, combined with other forms of intelligence. Your example is but one tiny piece of a jigsaw puzzle. By itself it's meaningless but when you put it with other pieces you can see an actual picture. That's why it's so important for our intelligence agencies to be able to gather information from as many places as possible. It takes a lot of pieces to put the picture together.
How can something with only one advantage but so many disadvantages, one being very harmful to humans AND the environment, be a step in the right direction? That is so backwards. People gotta stop being so fooled by granolas and their stupid backwards ideas. Ethanol anyone?
You're info is like 20 years old. Newer windmill designs don't kill nearly as many birds as the first models did, and bird deaths due to cars and windows is so much higher than windmills that it makes people who bring it up look really silly.
What I don't get is why anyone would invest billions into something that will only make thousands in profits. What a horrible waste of resources that is. Those billions could be so much better used than that. I smell bs in this story.
This is slashdot where you're supposed to believe that the military is full of mindless slave drones willing to do the evil bidding of our President. Don't wreck it. The socialists here are doing important work.
Shhhh. This is slashdot. They don't want you do think about positive applications. Only think about possible abuse and be a good citizen.
Oh no, you actually can't RTFA here. You've got to go find the original source and read that to find out what the story really is about.
All of your points are covered in the opinion. You should read it.
Your sensitive data, reports, charts, and passwords (if visible) have been handled by border officials for decades. You can blame the Republicans if you want though, don't let little things like facts get in your way.
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/6D5D931898D8168188257432005AC9B8/$file/0650581.pdf?openelement
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1. He was randomly chosen for secondary questioning. Perfectly legal and constitutional.
2. He left the images on the desktop in a folder. They were not hidden.
3. This cannot be a violation of the 4th amendment because it was a border search. Border searches have been challenged and found to be constitutional numerous times in the past.
4. United States v. Flores-Montano, 541 U.S. 149, 153 (2004). Generally, "searches made at the border . . . are
reasonable simply by virtue of the fact that they occur at the border . . .
Flores-Montano, 541 U.S. at 152. Therefore, "[t]he luggage carried by a traveler entering the country may
4179 UNITED STATES v. ARNOLDbe searched at random by a customs officer . . . no matter how
great the traveler's desire to conceal the contents may be."
He made no attempt to conceal the images as they were left on the desktop, but even if he had attempted to conceal them it wouldn't have mattered anyway.
5. Courts have long held that searches of closed containers and their contents can be conducted at the border without particularized suspicion under the Fourth Amendment. This includes items such as a purse, wallet, or pockets. A laptop is no different.
6. Flores-Montano, 541 U.S. at 152 (emphasis added), the Supreme Court has held open the possibility, "that some
searches of property are so destructive as to require" particularized suspicion. Id. at 155-56 (emphasis added) (holding that complete disassembly and reassembly of a car gas tank did not require particularized suspicion).
Since the search of his laptop did not require it to be damaged in any way, and the defendant also stated that his laptop was not damaged, it was again a legal search.
The only way he was going to get away with this is if he had shoved a memory stick up his butt and made sure he didn't do anything that caused suspicion.
/signed
The ethanol scam and subsidies for other failed "alternative energy" ideas is far more damaging to us than supposed global warming. Here's another 1,600 jobs that could be lost because of the cost increase of corn and this isn't the only company that's looking at shutting down plants. Count on food prices going even higher as supply drops.
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1Mqi49
If it works, people will want it, and the business won't need welfare to survive. If it doesn't then just like any other business it should be allowed to fail until someone figures out how to make it succeed.
Subsidies on "alternative energy" kill innovation by rewarding failure.
Yes, any tap they look at they have to justify and get a warrant for, even if it's after the fact.
There is nothing that says communications can't be stored to be looked at later, only that looking at them requires due process.
Way to ignore history.
There are countries we have gone into and killed people in and stayed until the job was done, then stayed even longer and in some cases are still there. Countries like Germany and Japan. Are they not world powers now? Are they not civilized nations where people can prosper? How was that possible with the US military there if the military is the source of all the problems and does no good but cause death?
There are also countries where we have gone in and killed people then left before the job was done. What condition are they in? How many people have died because there was no stabilizing force?
So you're basically saying "We should not stay until the job is finished like we did in Germany and Japan because if anything it just causes more death."
I was in the Air Force so I don't think "tough guy" applies. :)
You should also check and see if the Constitution was actually violated. The initial Patriot Act did have some problems, but they have since been fixed. You're believing a little too much socialist propaganda there.
Remember, warrantless wiretaps doesn't mean they never need a warrant, it means they can get one later because time is critical. Sometimes you can't wait. No matter what you do it still has to be justified and legal.