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Ray Gun Puts Voices Inside Your Head
Sportsqs writes "The Sierra Nevada Corporation claimed this week that it is ready to begin production on the MEDUSA, a damned scary ray gun that uses the 'microwave audio effect' to implant sounds and perhaps even specific messages inside people's heads."
There you guys sit, all laughing at me at pointing and jeering at my Tinfoil Hat 3000(tm), but look who's sitting pretty now! Ha! Fsckers!
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...I've had the voice of Reagan inside my head.
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
This is surely the dawn of a new age for conspiracy theories, second only to that of the advent of recorded media (with all of those damned subconscious messages).
"Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule."
*ZAPP*
"You will buy more products from Sierra Nevada Corporation"
/me drooling... "I will buy more products from Sierra Nevada Corporation"
I wonder how many Pale Ales you have to drink to get the same effect.
Will they finally be able to sell vacation to other planets and just "implant" the souvenir of this trip in my head? Exciting!
that they should name it Medusa, a villain who was defeated by reflecting it's magic back at it...
Of course a tinfoil hat will be no defence since your head will burst into flames.
.. the fact it wouldn't affect people who already hear voices.
The disappearing pencil trick. Let me show you it.
There you guys sit, all laughing at me at pointing and jeering at my Tinfoil Hat 3000(tm), but look who's sitting pretty now! Ha! Fsckers!
You won't be sitting pretty when you shiny new hat starts to spark and arc like a fork in the microwave!
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This sounds kind of scary and kind of cool. If somebody offered to give me a demo, I'm not sure weather I would recoil in horror at the thought of microwave radiation being directed at my head, or jump at the opportunity to hear it...
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technology as the /. article a few months ago? I seem to remember a govt prototype or some such device that was trying to do the same thing. In any case, I hope this spurs the development of professionally made tin foil hats. The crude home-made variety aren't going to cut it anymore.
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It's like curing Schizophrenia the backwards way!
"I only speak the truth"
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Are they working out of Black Mesa?
When the axe came to the forest, the trees said, "Look out - the handle was once one of us."
I was going to make fun of you, but then my new friend Roger told me not to.
W..w..W - Willy Waterloo washes Warren Wiggins who is washing Waldo Woo.
Pfft. Call me when they implement a 'microwave digital surround effect' on this thing. Then I'll be impressed.
I speculate a tin-foil hat will do you little good against this "microwave audio" device. According to TFA, all standard forms of defense against auditory input are nonfunctional, since the device transmits audio directly into your skull, bypassing your ear altogether.
"Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule."
Ha! Fsckers!
What? Checking my filesystem has suddendly become "nerdy"? Why I oughta...
In my day they only had ads on TV and radio. And in magazines and movies and ball games and on buses and milk cartons and written in the sky. But not in dreams, no-siree!
Anybody have any idea what division of SNC is working on this? Once upon a time I used to work for those guys..
http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/
Conclusion
The helmets amplify frequency bands that coincide with those allocated to the US government between 1.2 Ghz and 1.4 Ghz. According to the FCC, These bands are supposedly reserved for ''radio location'' (ie, GPS), and other communications with satellites (see, for example, [3]). The 2.6 Ghz band coincides with mobile phone technology. Though not affiliated by government, these bands are at the hands of multinational corporations.
It requires no stretch of the imagination to conclude that the current helmet craze is likely to have been propagated by the Government, possibly with the involvement of the FCC. We hope this report will encourage the paranoid community to develop improved helmet designs to avoid falling prey to these shortcomings.
Ha Ha!
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Is this one of DARPA's toys?
Look at me, I can't even post under my username anymore.
Microwave audio effect? That explains why I keep hearing "90% power... white rice... sensor cook" over and over again.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
In this case wouldn't your new friend encourage you to think of a tinfoil hat as ludicrous? I mean, after all, what is in your friend's best interests...
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
Toot with this i can now insert the message "Sleep with me" in the heads of attractive women everywhere!!!
Denise Richards & the olsen twins here I come..
remote torture anybody?
imagine playing Cliff Richard to you victim incessantly. unable to sleep. unable to get away from it. all you need is somebody to point this thing at his head.
imagine doing it at just enough of a low level so he is not aware of it.
imagine jururs being threatened at long range. imagine blackmail from a distance.
what if an unverifiable, untraceable voice announces in your ear "rob the bank or I shoot your wife", what would you do?
this is damn scary, where is my magneto helmet?
The MEDUSA is useless against a raging pack of schizophrenics.
Hurray! finally something positive about having schizophrenia!
Of course, that's the REAL purpose of this weapon - something to use against all the tinfoil hats out there!
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for politicians to use on campaigns...
I'd have to murder them putting campaign thoughts in my head..
This didn't start out as a secret government weapon but just another innovative invention that boils down to a new clever way to get laid.
Somethings telling me to "Move along, there's nothing to see here".
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"all standard forms of defence against auditory input" probably means anything in or covering your ears. The tinfoil hat only blocks electromagnetic waves, which is what they are supposedly using.
The tinfoil hat might actually be one of the few ways you can block this without any special materials or equipment.
If they see someone with a tinfoil hat, they'll probably just yell at him.
We can make the tinfoil hats to defeat these guns...uhw wait..no we can't...voices say so...the voices...they won't stop...no no no, stop them...must...not...resist...ARRGGGGG
"...These are not the droids we're looking for."
You weak minded fool! He's got a Jedi mind gun!"
"sure I'll hear that demo. . ."
"Were no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do i
A full commitments what Im thinking of
You wouldnt get this from any other guy
I just wanna tell you how Im feeling
Gotta make you understand
never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you"
"AHHH make it stop!!!!!"
It's more scary than cool.
The article at NewScientist says:
MEDUSA involves a microwave auditory effect "loud" enough to cause discomfort or even incapacitation. Sadovnik says that normal audio safety limits do not apply since the sound does not enter through the eardrums.
Also from NewScientist, a member of the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department at the University of Illinois in Chicago who has also worked on the technique has commented that while feasible, attaining the necessary volume might involve power levels that could cause neural damage.
There you guys sit, all laughing at me at pointing and jeering at my Tinfoil Hat 3000(tm), but look who's sitting pretty now! Ha! Fsckers!
You won't be sitting pretty when you shiny new hat starts to spark and arc like a fork in the microwave!
You hate fireworks or something? I mean, come on! Fireworks going off on somebody's head. That's pure comedy gold man.
what if thousands of concurrent microwave audio signal would beamed a person... would it "slashdot" it/him/her?
crazy...
Two myths I want to debunk right off the bat.
1) Subliminal messages don't work. It's a sham that a psychologist made with fake data that scared the crap out of politicians so that a law was implemented quickly and people fear it to this day (though I still do fear spammers using this, as they have no morals).
2) Microwaves refer to a certain spectrum of electromagnetic radiation. Your cellphone uses them, but the spectrum that your microwave uses happens to cause water molecules to resonate. These microwaves are of a different spectrum, and while they can be deadly, they are not the same.
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Perhaps we can beam an entire education into the minds of young people. Think about it. Roughly half of America's young people reach the age of 18 at being virtually retarded these days. Beaming voices into peoples' heads might be a highly useful tool.
It also might be used to teach people what Islam really is in places like Iraq where an entire religion has been subverted and perverted into a really nasty mess. Teaching real Islam to the public might cure this problem.
Looks like we finally have a real use for all those tin foil hats.
The system works by way of microwave pulses absorbed by your head. An aluminum foil hat would be quite effective against it.
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if they cranked the thing WAY up? Death ray anyone? (Sorry, can't RTFA, slashdotted.)
This is not hatred. This is retribution. This is not revenge. This is justice.
Never. Ever. let any kind of ad or marketing branch get a hold of this, never. ever.
just like this liquid gets into this egg. Fishful of dollars
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Fry: So you're telling me they broadcast commercials into people's dreams?
Leela: Of course.
Fry: But how is that possible?
Professor Farnsworth: It's very simple. The ad gets into your brain just like this liquid gets into this egg. [Holds up an egg and injects it with liquid from a syringe until the egg explodes.]
Although, in reality, it's not liquid, but gamma radiation.
Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?
Fry: Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games... and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams, no siree.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Friend of mine told me about this in 2005. The intel guys have had this for a few years.
1) Subliminal messages don't work. It's a sham that a psychologist made with fake data,,,
That's right! It's nothing but a load of rich creamery butter!
The CB App. What's your 20?
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and it should be outlawed immediately!
WTF are they thinking? Police ticket people for talking on their cell phones they are holding up to their heads. And, I know it is distracting, I was almost hit, twice, crossing a street, light with me, in the cross walk, by two people holding a cell phone to their heads, gabbing away, not paying attention to what the hell was going on with traffic, lights, etc.
All we need now is someone getting messages and other crap beamed into their heads while they are driving, operating heavy equipment, etc. and horrid accidents to follow. This crazy world has just got a bit more crazy.
Can you imagine the kind of hurt we'd be in for as a society with a technology such as this?
Try to imagine a mega church having one of these things.
Everyone's sitting in the pews, the Reverend is off spouting something or other about a great evil when all of a sudden "This is the Lord your God, the Reverend is my agent on this earth. For he knows, as I do, what is most evil. As my children, you will do whatever he commands in the fight against the darkness."
"True" believers can already be a touch over zealous, imagine how much worse it would be with the "word of god" rolling through their heads!
Heck, combine it with some prerecorded messages and parents will snap these up "for the children".
Top sellers could be:
All with constant repetition which only ends when the desired action is performed.
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TFA doesn't give much in technical details, but as I understand it, they are using the human skull as a heterodyne circuit. Basically mixing two microwave signals inside the skull to create audio.
Some days I get the sinking feeling Orwell was an optimist.
Another way for marketing wankstains to pollute our heads with their psychologically manipulate garbage. Hopefully the powers that be will see the strong public interest argument in not using this to beam 'important messages' into peoples heads.
If we can put a man on the moon, why can't we shoot people for Apollo-related non-sequiturs?
Hmm, I thought of the Islamist tack as well, but I had a different approach. Let's use their zealotry against them.
We'll see how motivated they are to blow themselves up when Allah himself tells them that suicide bombing is a deal breaker on the whole eternal paradise thing.
Women are like electronics: you don't know how damaged they are until you try to turn them on.
1) Subliminal messages don't work. It's a sham that a psychologist made with fake data that scared the crap out of politicians so that a law was implemented quickly and people fear it to this day (though I still do fear spammers using this, as they have no morals).
So... Why exactly do you fear it if it doesn't work?
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
OK, I can deal with the fact that the Tinfoil Hat people have been right all along. Fine. I apologize for some of the unkind things I've said about them.
But dammit, I'm NOT going to start being nice to all the Moonbats, People Who Live In Their Parents' Basements, Loons, Head Cases, Half-wits, Technophobes, Technophiles, UFO Abductees, Conspiracy Nuts, Jerks, Berks and Wanna-be Captain Kirks just because, like a broken clock, they might manage to be right twice a day.
I mean it!
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
This explains why I like their beer so much. They're using mind control!
That sounds like Brain-Wash speak to me...!
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I saw this last week in New Scientist. You're jumping to some very flase conclusions. It has nothing to do with subliminal messages. From the linked article:
mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
(Beam me up Scotty).
Long live the new flesh!
Never attribute to Hanlon that which can be adequately attributed to Heinlein.
Anyone else think it's a little convenient that this technology is coming out right at Election time?
Two myths I want to debunk right off the bat.
Great! I love to see myths debunked.
the spectrum that your microwave uses happens to cause water molecules to resonate. These microwaves are of a different spectrum, and while they can be deadly, they are not the same.
http://www.answers.com/topic/microwave-1?cat=technology
it's in my head
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These sound like HSS speakers, which use ultrasonic carrier waves to demodulate sound when the frequencies come into contact with flesh and bone.
http://www.atcsd.com/site/
And friend of mine has a couple of these speakers. We recently used them at an art opening to beam the music of the primes into people's heads (playing the digital root of each prime number through a hexatonic scale, rests in the music were created by the occurrence of the primes in the digital-roots matrix we used to develop our own unique prime number sieve).
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I give you... TinFoil Hat V.2!
This + this = WIN!
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lol the rick roll ray gun. To be included on Metal Gear via Metal Gear solid 5. (insert link to dubious rick roll/metal gear solid 5 preview link here)
Stupidity only gets you so far, then you've gotta try
What a great way to share your iTunes collection with friends - a close proximity version...
Is Dolby or Prologic supported? ;)
> Teaching real Islam to the public might cure this problem.
Actually teaching Atheism is the only cure.
http://technology.newscientist.com/article/dn14250-microwave-ray-gun-controls-crowds-with-noise.html
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1) Subliminal messages don't work. It's a sham that a psychologist made with fake data that scared the crap out of politicians so that a law was implemented quickly and people fear it to this day (though I still do fear spammers using this, as they have no morals).
So... Why exactly do you fear it if it doesn't work?
Because audible spam in my head would be even worse than the e-mailed spam in my in-box or the visible spam on billboards (and bus stops, sides of buildings/cars, etc.)
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
Who are you calling Fscker? I've never checked a file system in my life!
Modern copyright is theft of culture from everyone and it retards the progress of the useful arts and sciences.
1) That's what they want you to think. Probably <subliminal>Subliminal messages don't work</subliminal> makes the whole <subliminal>Subliminal messages don't work</subliminal> process more effective if they <subliminal>Subliminal messages don't work</subliminal> sneak under your personal radar.
My brain is overly lubricated
People should be able to believe whatever the hell they want to believe as long as they don't try to force it on others. If they don't believe in evolution, fine, it's their right -- but they shouldn't be allowed to practice biological science.
They already have this thing. They have been testing it since the 70's on science fiction authors.
How is this going to protect us from Al-Qaeda again Oh, it's not, it's designed to protect them from their own people.
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I see enormous benefits in this technology.
1. Listening to music as loud as you want while not forcing it on others
2. Rocking out to the loudest concert in history without anyone outside the venue hearing a whisper of it (on second thought, the RIAA might require this, so maybe it's not so good)
3. Throwing a gigantic party with great tunes while letting the geezer next door -- who never listens to anything harder than Captain and Tennille -- get his beauty sleep
You can never go home again... but I guess you can shop there.
FTFA: "Sadovnik says the technology could have non-military applications. Birds seem to be highly sensitive to microwave audio, he says, so it might be used to scare away unwanted flocks."
If it'll get the damn Canada geese out of my parking lot, I'm all for it.
What's so special about this? The advertising agencies have been controlling your thoughts for years! They've even got it so that the subjects will voluntarily submit to acquiring new thoughts, unfiltered, and largely unaware.
And then, there was the girlfriend I had who could put the right thoughts in my head just by flashing certain parts of her anatomy...
"The mind works quicker than you think!"
Uh yeah, I'll be lining the inside of every hat I have with some good ol foil now!
i have a roll of electrical tape.
Scary in some ways, perhaps, but at least it explains the Obama phenomenon.
Sorry, I couldn't resist. : )
Next thing you know, people will . . . will . . . maybe I will . . . I WILL vote for Obama. Yes, I WILL vote for Obama . . . .
It's only funny until someone gets hurt. Then, it's hilarious.
Roughly half of America's young people reach the age of 18 at being virtually retarded these days.
Do you realize that's what older people thought of you when you were 18?
It also might be used to teach people what Islam really is in places like Iraq where an entire religion has been subverted and perverted into a really nasty mess. Teaching real Islam to the public might cure this problem.
Yeah, why do we have to burn books when we can toast thoughts! And why not whisper to your skull who you should vote for, when you are about to do it? I really hope you are joking.
Brilliant! I hereby nominate you for the position of Head Messiah at the newly founded Ministry of Godly Voices.
attaining the necessary volume might involve power levels that could cause neural damage.
Yeah, that'll stop this from widespread use.
Like how they banned Tasers, because attaining the necessary pain might involve power levels that could cause cardiac arrhythmia.
Oh, wait, no they don't... All those people died of "excited delerium", not Taser-induced arrhythmia. Slip o' the tongue there, don't sue me bro...
Something tells me these are not the droids I'm looking for...
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Are we reaching Alternate Universe X-Men territory?
Magneto is now the good guy & Professor X is evil?
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As if the internet and other forms of mass media weren't enough.
I bet the first large scale use of this will contain some sort of forced advertising, and it won't be subliminal, it will be blatant, assuredly annoying and just might make you sign up for that monthly subscription to SIRIUS GAMMA.
- wait... streaming radio in my head? That might actually be cool.
Coupled with a simple hologram projector hidden in someone's house, you can make them believe that ghosts and demons haunt them all throughout the night!
McCain/Palin '08. Now THAT's hope and change!
"Control!"
how about an x-ray mirror?
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/features/news/xray_mirror.html
Ken! This is Jesus. Stop touching yourself!
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"It sounds a little absurd - I was born to spread the word;
The music hits my soul - I was born to Rock & Ro-oo-lll..."
Except posting Youtube links might be mean now given Viacom's little game.
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I'd hit someone with Banana Phone... quietly at first.. then ever louder and louder.
You're nothing; like me.
Because audible spam in my head would be even worse than the e-mailed spam in my in-box or the visible spam on billboards (and bus stops, sides of buildings/cars, etc.)
Nah -- the voices already in my head will be able to shout it down...
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Seriously though, as someone suffering life in the UK I wonder how long until this kind of thing is used to control the population. We already have talking CCTV cameras...
80,000 ACDC fans screaming "....TNT, I'm Dynamite...." out of tune ..... nothing peaceful about that....
Outside the hysteria, how about combining the MEDUSA technology with the mind-reading sensors previously discussed here in /. to come up with:
1. a telepathic transceiver? Imagine a completely silent communication system..
2. maybe we can project images/sounds/feeling? How cool can that be? The ultimate Movie/RPG experience? THE drug killer?
The possibilities are endless..
1. Listening to music as loud as you want while not forcing it on others
And not damaging your eardrums.
I'm pretty sure that microwaving people's brains should go under the "what-could-possibly-go-wrong" tag for obvious reasons.
Mmmmm evil Talia Winters...
The tinfoil hat might actually be one of the few ways you can block this without any special materials or equipment.
Half a Faraday cage is as good as none.
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i agree and the wonderful folks at sierra nevada deserve more grant money
i agree and the wonderful folks at sierra nevada deserve more grant money
i agree and the wonderful folks at sierra nevada deserve more grant money
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ECHELON is a government program to find words like bomb, jihad, plutonium, assassinate, and anarchy.
If I talk to you it put voices in your head as well. And by the way, where is the "inputdev" tag?
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Yes you can get lots of jokes from this idea, but what about serious applications like using it for communications in noisy environments? I would think that this concept would be ideal on the battlefield where you don't want to impair the listener's hearing, but make sure they get the message just the same.
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I can see it now: "I am Idi Amin Dada. Before I died I secreted money that is needed for my descendants. If you help me, you can keep $20M."
As a deaf guy it saddens me when tech like this is used for military purposes and it's consumer uses are not considered.
Remember the thing where you put the transmitter on your tongue and you can hear bypassing the ears? I'd like to try one of those. But rather than look like a drooling idiot I'd love to get my hands on one of these babies. Just strap it on a hearing aid and skip the ears entirely. Way better than a cochlear implant, non-invasive and perfect sound. Nice.
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Tasers are a great example of why you can't trust your end user.
A Taser was designed to replace a gun. "Instead of shooting someone, you can INSTEAD tase them to incapacitate them."
Once they got into the hands of the end users, the got into usage creep. "Fighting is hard work. I'll use the taser." "Arguing takes effort. Taser." "Talking meh taser."
Now they're used for when you owe the bus driver a dollar.
(Despite what the article states, they have said in radio interviews that they use the tasers for non-compliance, including non-payment of fares.)
They're being overused as a compliance tool instead of their intended purpose, which was to prevent acute lead poisoning.
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ECHELON is a government program to find words like bomb, jihad, plutonium, assassinate, and anarchy.
Many here will emphasize the dangers of this device. But there is a good (legitimate?) use for it.
In the hands of a few selected intelligent individuals who deeply care about our human society (like myself and others approved by me) this device can finally bring the all so wanted changes in politics. Just point this to some high ranking officials' melon in the government and no more lies and bullshit! Finally, the inside voice in their head will not be motivated by greed and power hunger (masked as voice from their dog), but instead it will be the true voice of the desire to improve the society they sworn to serve.
Would this allow someone who is deaf to hear?
Yeah!! Get rid of all these taser and microwave weapons. Bring back good old night sticks, trunchons, jack boots, and guns. It's a lot easier to prove that victims were hurt by those weapons than by tasers or microwaves. Or their own decisions to resist arrest or not leave buildings.
I rarely read replies, it's my opinion and if you thought about your opinion a little more, I'm OK with that.
... I already have a intra-cranial provider with exclusive broadcast rights. If anyone starts using this techonology to insert messages that aren't approved by that provider, they will be opening themselves up to lawsuits. Maybe I should put a sticker on my ass warning them about this. Now if they are willing to pay for some broadcast rights, maybe we can talk.
(C) Kaki Sain, 2011. By reading this, you have illegally copied my property to your brain.
Yeah, that sure worked for Stalin and Mao Tse Tung. They never committed any atrocities at all.
The reality is that there are a few nutballs out there in every religion, including atheism.
Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
I finally get my neighbor to cut my grass and trim the hedges and you all blow my cover....
Karma: Bad is the liberal way of saying this guy won't drink the kool aid here on slash dot. I wear my Karma with pride
Don't worry,
As soon as the RIAA hears about this the funding for the project will be sucked dry.
Life starts at the end of your comfort zone.
I guess that's another one of those things to blame on the weather-man
which is totally what she said
Ha! Fsckers!
I'm insulted you would dare call me a file system checker!
There you guys sit, all laughing at me at pointing and jeering at my Tinfoil Hat 3000(tm), but look who's sitting pretty now! Ha! Fsckers!
That's it. A tinfoil hat covered with corn beads will work as a protector / detector system.
I speak England very best
I'm not jumping to false conclusions, I was informing people that subliminal messages is a myth before they start posting about it.
Help fight spam
The opportunities for Rickrolling are now endless!
Charles! Nooooooooooooo!
Hmm...
Now avoiding TFA like the plague, it occurs to me that "shockwaves" within the skull able to cause hydrostatic pressure loads comparable to 120+ decibels (is that loud enough for ya?) hitting your eardrums might just damage something other than eardrums.
But lets not even think about the fine possibilities such as massive damage on the cellular level - just consider the overpressures that could be set up within blood vessels. It will be interesting to see if there is any increase in "massive cerebral hemorrage" as a cause of death going forward.
Or an increase in the wearing of hats by the political class anytinme they give a speech :)
You either believe in rational thought or you don't
Its only scary if you're hearing Barbara Streisand.
As a rule, I never trust dark brown ketchup.
Sierra Nevada then announced this was only the first of many new products destined to supplement use of their alcoholic beverages. They are now field testing a prototype code-named 'vomitron.'
I can see it now: NewsCorp will buy the patents for this device, and modify the gun so it can shoot stuff inside out heads out of our TV speakers! Now Fox News doesn't even have to be a biased right-wing network to brainwash us!
I knew it! I am not crazy for hearing voices in my head telling me I am God. Now fess up, who stole the ray gun?
There are all kinds of quips about tinfoil hats and paranoia to be made on this one. Trouble is, think about what that means. We are living a tinfoil hatter's paranoid fantasy, it just happens to all be true.
Massive wiretapping? Check.
Ubiquitous surveillance? Check.
Substantial expansion of state power? Check.
Secret prisons and disappearances? Check.
Directed energy weapons (both pain and sound)? Check.
Classified laws? Check.
Mercenaries who answer to no law?? Check.
Seriously. They still have some really wacky ones about reptoids and masons and things; but much of conspiracy lore is so common that it doesn't even make the front pages anymore. The joke is on us.
I had always wondered how the dog could do that.
inputdev seems a fitting tag
Headphones?
Is it even possible to be out of tune to AC/DC? I thought that was the point.
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1) Subliminal messages don't work. It's a sham that a psychologist made with fake data that scared the crap out of politicians so that a law was implemented quickly and people fear it to this day (though I still do fear spammers using this, as they have no morals).
Yeah, I can account to this. Back in when I was in a course in psychology we did a blind study and on sublidrinkminal messduffages to influbeerence a taste test. One side we would set it up with out a subliminals being piped in in the music and one with. The resdrinkults were wimorethin 2% of eaduffch other. We beerconcluded that subliminal messages where bullshit.
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"1. Listening to music as loud as you want while not forcing it on others"
Yea, Maybe they can install it in iPods one day. I think earbuds would be a good name for it.
"I hear voices"... "and they want me to kill you"...
A strainer and a 404 Not Found? I guess the gun can't put voices in your head if it can't find your head, but I'm wondering how this could be practically implemented.
What is this "real Islam" of which you speak, and can it be taught to Muslims?
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Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 20th century? Fry: Well, sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio. And in magazines and movies and at ball games and on buses and milk cartons and T-shirts and written in the sky. But not in dreams. No, sir-ee!
I WANT ONE
I'm pretty sure they've been testing this on my ex-wife!
How is this different than any other audio? A person could build powerful speakers that transmit sound waves that would be capable of killing a person.
If we all became accustomed to sensing the sounds that this device creates then we could just remove ourselves from the situation that created them.
In some ways this could be a very cool technology. Imagine a concert where the sounds are transmitted with this device?
I think this technology has been presented as a weapon. I imagine some people were freaked out about sending voices over speakers or really loud sounds doing damage to buildings...
Microwaves don't fry brain cells, people do.
Also, three of the newest Sony BMG albums, though I have never heard of any of the bands before today and haven't bought an album in a decade.
Fake Viagra at a bulk discount, though I have no erectile problems and for some reason I was talking to myself in a Russian sounding accent -weird-
This was all going pretty weird until suddenly I snapped out of it after I told myself to shove it when I suggested to myself that I needed to buy a copy of Vista, install it, and let automatic updates run, UAC run unedited, and buy a copy of the new Office to boot!!
I obviously needed to seek professional help, so I will talk to you guys after I go to these self healing seminars at this time share I was telling myself about (they even have a raffle!)
Just you wait my friend until this is used for advertising purposes. The really scary part is if they could possibly replicate your own voice, would you be able to tell the difference of cognitive thought process and somebody injecting your own voice into your thoughts? This also is VERY VERY dangerous when talking religious fanatics of any type, to be able to play "The Voice of God" just not cool (but could win wars....)
It took me all of 30 seconds to realize the full potential for this technology
.... the nuts with the tin foil hats no longer look so crazy anymore.
Actually you've got the right idea with a tin foil hat. But since the signals may not be coming from the sky, the foil should wrap around as much of your head as possible. Looking through a metal screen or metal full of tiny holes should be effective in blocking signals approaching your face. The holes just have to be small relative to the wavelength of the signal. That should sound familiar since that's what's done in the windows in doors of microwave ovens.
Since the microwaves are in very short pulses the average power level apparently isn't high enough to cook you.
If the only effect is to hear something, it could be ineffective if one knows to simply ignore it.
How's this for an awful thought? .... send auditory spam to people via these microwaves...
I can see it now, crowds holding up shields to bounce signals back at their attackers
Are they also looking into clicking smokey monster thingies?
There's someone in my head but it'd not me
I don't know what you are going on about, but I could sure go for a beer right now.
and getting grilled at the same time.
wonderful
The Voices are strong, they drown out all other sounds.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
This, together with the device that translates subvocal sounds, I for one welcome the Coinjoiners
This is blinging
all three of your points are the same, focusing audio on a specific spot without interrupting anyone else. There is already a much safer way of doing this(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_from_ultrasound) without mixing any microwaves inside your scull.
So very true.
The most effective way to silence those who mention such things is not to debate them, but to mock them as nuts and ignore them.
But lets not even think about the fine possibilities such as massive damage on the cellular level - just consider the overpressures that could be set up within blood vessels. It will be interesting to see if there is any increase in "massive cerebral hemorrage" as a cause of death going forward.
Kinda makes ya wonder who they tested this on, doesn't it?
in the war against terror.
You can use it to beam rap music into the heads of Islamic Terrorists so they disarm and surrender in order to have it turned off.
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But you see, we actually use the TinFoil as a receptor, antenna, and resonator. Your head and brain are just the storage medium.
We can target people without the metal hat's just fine, but we can target people with them faster and at greater distances.
In fact, we have had between an 84.6% and 97.5325333333% success rate with people wearing foil helmets. The success rate depends on the type of metal used in the foil and the weave designs.
In people without metal hats, we found that we get about an 89% success rate on average.
So yes, the metal hat's do prevent us some, but the problem is, with the unsuccessful it is not that the message does not get through, it is that death is a side effect and thus is defined as a failure during our tests.
We tested over 10 million diverse humans, and found that the only people to survive with 100% success rate were those that were born with both sets of sexual organs. But we consider them useless statistics anyway since they are unable to reproduce.
Another interesting side effect is we have the ability to also define genetic memories of the voices. That way every spawn from the target is also a victim.
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All I can imagine is Jiffy Pop. If the microwaves don't make your head explode, the Jiffy Pop will. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiffy_Pop
Layne
Cheap Trick - The Dream Police
The dream police, they live inside of my head.
The dream police, they come to me in my bed.
The dream police, theyre coming to arrest me, oh no.
You know that talk is cheap, and those rumors aint nice.
And when I fall asleep I dont think Ill survive the night, the night.
cause theyre waiting for me.
Theyre looking for me.
Evry single night theyre driving me insane.
Those men inside my brain.
The dream police, they live inside of my head.
(live inside of my head.)
The dream police, they come to me in my bed.
(come to me in my bed.)
The dream police, theyre coming to arrest me, oh no.
Well, I cant tell lies, cause theyre listening to me.
And when I fall asleep, bet theyre spying on me tonight, tonight.
cause theyre waiting for me.
Theyre looking for me.
Evry single night theyre driving me insane.
Those men inside my brain.
I try to sleep, theyre wide awake, they wont leave me alone.
They dont get paid to take vacations, or let me alone.
They spy on me, I try to hide, they wont let me alone.
They persecute me, theyre the judge and jury all in one.
cause theyre waiting for me.
Theyre looking for me.
Evry single night theyre driving me insane.
Those men inside my brain.
The dream police, they live inside of my head.
The dream police, they come to me in my bed.
The dream police, theyre coming to arrest me.
*** Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?
...up until recently, generations of police officers learned how to use physical force to gain compliance. And generally speaking they knew how to do it with minimal force and maximal compliance -- a friend who is a 2nd generation police officer had his father demonstrate some of the techniques, and it was fairly amazing how well he could hurt me without actually "hurting" me (ie, leaving lasting marks, breaking bones, bruising, etc.)
The gripe my friend the cop has is that with all the touchy-feely policing (and the expensive court payouts) they have, you really can't gain compliance through physical force the way you used to be able to, so they are largely left with their guns and their tasers. And since the tasers aren't lethal, they're somehow considered "OK" to use for any problem solving short of killing someone.
I think they should start allowing the police to carry saps and clubs again as well as teach them physical force and stop letting them use a taser as a universal problem solver.
Queens Of The Stone Age?
Now, if Picard comes back in time to us, we can trick him into attacking the Enterprise with the Stargazer using the Picard Maneuver.
A Taser was designed to replace a gun.
Although I agree with your overall point that Tasers are seriously overused, your initial premise is incorrect.
Tasers were never intended to be used as a replacement for a gun. They are an additional non-lethal weapon to use alongside the baton and pepper spray.
Unfortunately, politicians and even the police themselves use the "Tasers replace guns" myth to win people over to the idea. After all, who wouldn't prefer to see a Taser used instead of a gun?
But that's not what happens. When the situation calls for a gun to be used, then the officer will use their gun. Period. They will never consider using the Taser instead, and they were never expected to. This is why the number of incidents involving police using their guns has not decreased since Tasers were introduced. Nor was it expected to.
The problem is that Tasers seem really harmless. You press a button, and the guy falls to the floor. Shortly thereafter, he gets up and he's apparently fine. So, hey, why not use it even in cases where the use of a baton or pepper spray would cause mass outrage?
And that's exactly what's happening now.
"You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war." -- Albert Einstein
Sadovnik says that normal audio safety limits do not apply since the sound does not enter through the eardrums.
Such bullshit!
(Directed at Sadovnik, not you, Digital).
Hearing loss usually has nothing to do with mechanical damage to the eardrum or ear; rather, it's almost always due to the fact that loud noises cause the cilia in your cochlea to get ripped out (and they do not grow back). This microwave thing is still exciting your cochlea, so it's doing the same damn thing. The only difference is that the vibrations originate within your head, whose tissue is rapidly being heated and cooled by the microwaves. But your cilia don't give a damn about where the vibrations come from.
Ugh.
Yeah, and as an aside, don't you just love how when you read a report on any Taser incident, the police never mention the LAW, it's always about POLICY. Think about that, they are concerned with POLICY over LAW, something you would expect from a for-profit industry trying to maximize gains, but from a government agency specifically designed to uphold the LAW?
I know, some people are going to say that they follow policy which is more strict than the law, to which I call bullshit. If -I- were to taser you for noncompliance, I go to jail, because of my lack of a State Authorized shiny piece of tin on my chest. It's really that simple, just because you're a cop, doesn't mean you can break the law, the only instances of special treatment allowed by law are those bits that are actually CODIFIED into the law, anything else is abusing your position (that position being that it's far less likely to be arrested). I highly doubt that there are laws allowing you to physically harm someone who is not breaking any laws, but it seems that many police officers mistakenly think that whatever they tell you to do IS law.
Is that anything like reverse fossilization?
Well, then, you need to listen to Robert Smith of The Cure (maybe with Leonard Maltin and Sidney Poitier helping him).
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
I saw this last week in New Scientist. You're jumping to some very flase conclusions. It has nothing to do with subliminal messages. From the linked article:
Am I the only one who finds it very, very scary that the "It's not torture if WE do it" Bush Administration(*) is working on technology that could be used to torture people and leave absolutely no physical evidence behind, ever?
This and the pain gun have me very, very scared for the future of our liberties.
*: To say nothing about the "It's not illegal if WE say it's not" and "You don't have the right to a free trial if WE don't say you do" and "We don't have to give up evidence unless WE want to" crap the retard king has pulled since his daddy's friends put him in power.
This sounds an aweful lot like something I saw on the Discovery channel, on the FutureWeapons show, but I don't think the device I saw discussed was based on electromagnetic beams, but rather just a highly-directional sonic beam. Sort of an 'audio-laser', which was basically produced by using a specially designed speaker that doesn't radiate an extremely wide cone like conventional speakers. It had two modes - one was just an annoying noise, used to try to disperse crowds or non-lethal takedown of armed enemies, the other mode was basically a conventional speaker, where you could use it to send propaganda, psy ops, or even point-to-point communications between different military groups (although, I would assume normally they would just use radio for that, but I suppose there could be situations where something like this could be useful if you want to maintain radio silence, but easier to setup and use than an optical laser (which would require extremely precise targetting on a remote sensor, and would be prone to some interference from atmospheric disturbances/smoke/fog/etc).
Unfortunately, the article is extremely skimpy on any actual details, so it's hard to evaluate what this technology really does. But, even from what is available from the article, this doesn't sound like a device which would be practical for uses like advertising, since you have to target it at individuals, or small groups. Advertising is, largely, a broadcast endeavor - you want it to reach as many people as cheaply as possible, not just one or a small group of people (unless, maybe, you are advertising to the very rich, where one sale is worth millions of dollars or more, or VIPs at large corporations, where again, a single sale might be worth multi-millions of dollars).
- and you thought they were kidding.
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A drug companies wet dream come true. Truly, not insane
~hylas
If you ever listen to the Dropkick Murphys cover an AC/DC tune, their awful tuneless bass player / now lead singer does an amazing job of ruining any happy memories you used to have of AC/DC.
I already hear things in my head. It's not so bad, really.
... it really does. Mainly because the joke: in Soviet Russia you put voices in the Ray Gun... makes no sense. In Soviet Russia this gun works the same way.
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Atheism is not a religion. Religion requires faith and absence of faith is not faith. Insistence on evidence is the inverse of faith.
So we'll change "Don't tase me Bro" to "Don't Microwave my head bro?" -- Not sure I like the ring to that.
-- All this knowledge is giving me a raging brainer.
Who could have known Scanners would be so prescient?
I really want phone UIs, security and battery life to finally support complete audio recordings of my entire life. It's got all kinds of uses, especially when some idiot tells me something, then denies they said it a few minutes later, or when they deny I told them something. With that kind of record, I could play back anything suspicious I "heard" to someone else. It would be a lot harder to get us both to "hear" something that wasn't actually audible, but rather projected as rays into our heads. Especially once we'd moved to a different place later on.
I'd also like a complete video record. Maybe eventually a complete electromagnetic record of the space I move through. And, if these rays catch on, some extra parallax antennas to determine the direction whatever signal came from.
--
make install -not war
omeomi was correcting himself, not somebody else...
Um, personality cults are not atheistic.
Try going to Pyongyang and telling people that Kim Jong Il isn't a living God. You'll come home in a box.
"There must be some way out of here," said the joker to the thief...
Catchy tune.
In the 80's a Ronald Ray Gun destroyed the Soviet Union without firing a shot.
Hyu gots dot right schweethot!
The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.
Interesting thought - IF you could use this technology to "listen" to music, but since you're bypassing the eardrums - forget not disturbing others - listen as loud as you want without hearing damage?
Can this be used for transferring information over significant distances without the recipient having any special receiving device — other than their own scull?
Would not it be terrific — to be able to communicate (even if only one way) securely and over a distance greater than than practical with simple sound-waves?
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
And here is the real reason subliminal messages are not used. While in fact you feel the need to drink duff beer right now. because of a mistimed cadence within the GP that same beer will now taste alot like cow manure.
What about earphones?
I seemed to recall some Usenet messages eons ago from a guy who seemed to really be a tinfoil hat paranoid, and that's where I first became familiar with the idea. I don't think the guy referred to his use of tinfoil as a "hat" though, but he did talk about wrapping tinfoil around his head to ward off some kind of thought-control beams being directed at him by nefarious government agencies. So, I Googled for tinfoil head in the advanced groups search so that I could restrict to only older messages, and ended up with NO HITS AT ALL. Using the default date range of 1981-present, there were 16K some hits, or at least were, at one point. But I just tried that again and got 4 hits. "tinfoil hat" is pulling up only 9 hits from 1981-present. Looks like a coverup is in the works here people...
Atheism is not a religion.
I think Sierra Nevada and all is well.
Beer that gets into your head before it gets into your stomach. Because we're that damn good. Sierra Nevada.
... could be used to torture people and leave absolutely no physical evidence behind, ever?
I wonder, would it be any worse torture or any less detectable than, say, blasting regular noise into a prisoner's cell at high volume?
Prov 9:8 Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you.
I remember hearing about this...
...or did I?
Also, there is a *big* difference between seeing someone simply going limp after being tazed, and seeing someone getting beaten down with a billy-club. These situations play out very differently when broadcast on the 6:00 news.
Xenon, where's my money? -Borno
Something that mentally forces me to do things that I don't want to? That's not called MEDUSA that's called my mom.
This dream brought you by LIGHTSPEED BRIEFS!
I read the script, and I think it would help my character's motivation if he was on fire. -Bender
Sounds like headphones without the headphones... !scary.
You're confusing Duff with Miller Lite.
Learning HOW to think is more important than learning WHAT to think.
just what we need - advertising with no volume control, :-P
and no way to turn it off.
We tested over 10 million diverse humans, and found that the only people to survive with 100% success rate were those that were born with both sets of sexual organs. But we consider them useless statistics anyway since they are unable to reproduce.
Oh great. After a generation or two the earth will literally become a 4chan image board.
Thanks for that disturbing thought.
I tried every decent and legal way I could think of to resolve the issue w/the business before I rented the chicken suit
We beerconcluded that subliminal messages where bullshit.
It looks like you've got a typing problem. There's an "h" in the word "were". Anyway, I think I'll go drink some duff.
Actually, nobody's laughing at you. That's just me with my ray gun putting laughing voices in your head.
With any luck they would average out. That's got to be the funniest mental picture I've seen all day, though. Thank you, sir.
Foil-lined goalie masks for everyone!
...Rob
The American Dream isn't an SUV and a house in the suburbs; it's Don't Tread On Me.
Shut up you have no friends.
Meh. Everyone knows that 87% of statistics can be made to prove anything, 50% of the time.
"But this one goes to 11!"
I would prefer they didn't practice biological reproduction. I know, they could use immaculate conception!
Suddenly ADHD seems less bothersome...
No words of wisedom here.
That's not Spam dude, that's schizophrenia.
"But this one goes to 11!"
The tinfoil hat might actually be one of the few ways you can block this without any special materials or equipment.
Half a Faraday cage is as good as none.
Which is why I plan to start marketing tinfoil bodysuits.
I like my beverages with warning labels!
It shouldn't be too hard to defeat this without resorting to a tinfoil hat.
With radio and audio/pressure waves being used, you can effectively cancel out either or both to mitigate the effects, though I would imagine that locally blocking the incident RF near your body would probably be easier.
Small radio transceiver on your body, preferably near your head, picks up the RF they use to create the pressure waves and transmits a smiliar signal 180deg out of phase.
Even people that believe in pre-destiny look both ways before crossing the street.
Voice of America 2.0
of course, but that statistic only occurs 27% of the time in real life situations.
/.
Only in theory can 77% of all bullshit not be on
The other 33% of the time you can think of how a monkey would shave it's pet zebra.
But anyway we should stop this branch of statistics as it is just bullshit to manipulate people anyway, at least 90% of the time.
sure the voice isn't "in" your head, but it's close. Here's a link to NY Times article from 2003. http://www.woodynorris.com/Articles/NewYorkTimesMagazine.htm As mentioned the same technology is used by DoD and other folks like Norwegian Cruise Lines. http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,385048,00.html Arrrgh!!! Me EARS!!!!
ronnie ray-gun?
http://www.mobygames.com/game/amiga/nuclear-war/screenshots/gameShotId,203757/
comment first, facts later. http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/RelativityofWrong.htm
I call BS on your analysis of the uses of this technology.
Surprisingly a wonderfully innovative technology to accomplish all of your benefits already exists. They're called headphones. My guess is that they don't use them because of some other reason. I wonder what that is...
Maybe it's that a large number of the people that listen to their music at parties, concerts, and through car audio systems actually *want* others to hear their music. When played loudly, it's just basically, a childish/immature behavior to impose/force their taste in music upon others (neighbors, etc)...
That headphone technology won't work for you... Why not?
Then I guess I should go patent anti-chaffing pads for tinfoil bodysuits. And invest in deodorant stocks.
http://www.mhall119.com
2) Microwaves refer to a certain spectrum of electromagnetic radiation. Your cellphone uses them, but the spectrum that your microwave uses happens to cause water molecules to resonate. These microwaves are of a different spectrum, and while they can be deadly, they are not the same.
Microwaves are radio signals between 300 MHz and 300 Ghz, which includes all cell phone signals and WiFi. Microwave ovens operate at 2.45 GHz, which is smack in the middle of the 2.4 GHz ISM band used for 802.11b/g WiFi, Bluetooth, cordless phones, etc, but operate at kilowatt levels versus the 100 milliwatt or so levels used for WiFi, so you're not going to be able to cook your Hot Pocket on your iPhone in any sort of reasonable time....
The heating effect has nothing to do with the resonant frequency of water (20 GHz or so for water vapor). 2.45 GHz is used because it's a worldwide ISM band, making it simpler to certify an intentional radiator like a microwave oven.
My parents don't have a basement, so I live in the spare room. Listen to E. Howard Hunt's deathbed confession via his son Saint John Hunt. Don't bother to get back to me, instructions for origami headwear are all over the Net. Oh, and read recent stories about Hunt Oil as well as past ones. (That Hunt's no relation to Howard.)
Maybe it's that a large number of the people that listen to their music at parties, concerts, and through car audio systems actually *want* others to hear their music. When played loudly, it's just basically, a childish/immature behavior to impose/force their taste in music upon others (neighbors, etc)...
Did somebody have to spend a childhood in their moms basement while the neighbors threw a party that they weren't invited to? Yes I think so.
I may agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to face the consequences of saying it.
Headphones still leak sound. Even earbuds do -- I have a colleague that listens to music using earbuds, and I can hear the buzz of it two cubicles away. When at the mall, some people walk by with earphones or earbuds, and I can make out what they're listening to.
In any case, I was being facetious. Part of the experience of being at a party or a concert is not just hearing the music, but feeling it as well.
I'm one who prefers a quiet environment, but I'm know people want to have their fun once in a while, and I don't mind as long as they're courteous about it. I had a neighbor about three years ago who came by and told me about four or five days in advance that he was going to have a sizable party at his place, and that the music was going to be loud. He asked that if it got too loud to please come by and let him know so he could turn it down, but he would also be happy if we came by and joined in. When the party night came around, we didn't go over, but we could barely hear it. They knocked the noise down to something only barely audible outside their own place right at midnight. Definitely a class act overall.
Back to the original point, sometimes annoying the Captain and Tennille guy is fun. :)
You can never go home again... but I guess you can shop there.
I don't know -- it could be argued that the atheist has faith that nothing exists unless we can prove it.
Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring banana phone!
Seems like the logical first song to use.
I'm scared.
I was covertly tortured using this technology in Norway because I refused to shut up about NATOs many false-flag terror operations. I got enough of it after half a year and fled to Sweden. It was hard to give up my whole life, my friends, my family, everything - but it was worth it to have this gruesome torture stop. The "Ray Gun" mentioned in the article is new. The technology is old and it has been used for covert torture within the NATO allience for too many years.
9/11: Never forget it was a false-flag operation
though I still do fear spammers using this, as they have no morals
"Hmmm, why did I buy Vista? I thought I didn't want Vista."
Table-ized A.I.
Hey, we were supposed to wait until September before publishing that ! Didn't you get the memo ?
May contain traces of nut.
Made from the freshest electrons.
Is he related to Peter Gun? Oh, wait, that was Gunn with two "n"s, so I guess not. Well anyway it sounds like he must have those psychotic powers or something. I hope he doesn't put weird thoughts in my head. I have enough of those already.
You never really know how close to the edge you can go until you fall off.
Atheism is not a religion. Religion requires faith and absence of faith is not faith. Insistence on evidence is the inverse of faith.
You appear to have atheism confused with agnosticism. Agnostics are the ones who neither believe nor disbelieve in divine being(s) because of the lack of evidence, while atheists believe that there are no divine beings with no more evidence than believers in any other religion have. In other words, atheists base their beliefs on faith, not evidence, since there is no accepted evidence that either proves or disproves the existence of divine beings.
Nooooo!!! 404 Not Found?!! Now I will never know what the missing component is!!! I'm doomed! :(
"Never give up, for that is just the time and place when the tide will change." -Harriet Beecher Stowe ^_^
And let's not forget that if there are no pressure waves, you can't damage your eardrums! So how about the intracranial equivalent of a 200dB concert? Anyone?
They're being overused as a compliance tool instead of their intended purpose, which was to prevent acute lead poisoning.
With the added bonus of :
"I didn't mean to kill him, I just used the Tazer (wink wink)".
"Oh, all right then"
And can you even pinpoint a "taze" (sic) to an individual unit ?
May contain traces of nut.
Made from the freshest electrons.
OK, now I want a Faraday fedora. Much more stylish than the tinfoil chapeau...
So, when's this going to be in the iphone ?
How much more bandwidth than bluetooth can we get ?
Not really. Agnostic says that the truth is unknowable and thus don't take a position. Atheist comes in two group , the strong and weak one. One of them says there is no proof of existence of god and there cannot be. The other says , until you bring proof of existence of God, I won't believe in it just as I don't believe in pink flying unicorn or whatever mythological object, NO FAITH in non-existence is involved here, just plain skepticism of unfalsifiable things. You are using the first definition whereas the GP was using the other one. Both exists. And Atheism is INDEED no religion, just like not-collecting-stamp is not a hobby.
C. Sagan : A demon haunted world:
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No, there isn't. There's an "h" in the word "where", not in the word "were".
The missing component is Love. =)
"We ALL have those dreams, Fry. But you don't see any of US running out to purchase name-brand merchandise at low, low prices..."
> If -I- were to taser you for noncompliance, I go to jail, because of
> my lack of a State Authorized shiny piece of tin on my chest.
One definition of 'government' is that it is the entity which claims a monopoly on the 'legitimate' use of force. Something to keep in mind when considering giving it additional authority, especially if the task can possibly be done by a private entity.
But thankfully our form of government (US) doesn't give a monopoly on teh use of force to the State. You CAN tase a bro if he is attempting to use force against you and in most jurisdictions (i.e those that are lawless) you will not be punished. The 2nd Amendment was recently affirmed to protect an individual right to the possession, bearing and yes the lawful use thereof. Our government gets it's powers from We the People and thus in theory doesn't any powers we didn't have to give it and we kept a generous portion.
Democrat delenda est
Newly declassified Pentagon report, February 2008, Bioeffects of Selected Non-Lethal Weapons , obtained under the Freedom of Information Act http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/02/report-nonletha.html "The "Voice of God" device, which creates voices in people's heads. As the report notes, "Application of the microwave hearing technology could facilitate a private message transmission. It may be useful to provide a disruptive condition to a person not aware of the technology. Not only might it be disruptive to the sense of hearing, it could be psychologically devastating if one suddenly heard 'voices within one's head.'"
Fun Gizmodo Fact: The MEDUSA is useless against a raging pack of schizophrenics.
Fortunately they're too paranoid to assemble.
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After a stint doing politics, testifying before Congress, and successfully getting a law put on the books (PL101-611) forcing NASA to procure launch services from the private sector, I had gotten interested in the tax system as a source of market failures in high technology investment and, as a consequence, was researching some fringe ideas related to the income tax. So I ordered the two volume book "The Law That Never Was" by Bill Benson via mail. Literallyl, the very I sat down to read the book, I heard, quietly but quite distinctly a female voice say just the 3 words: "It's too late."
It was quite an experience, unique in my life.
When I mentioned it to a friend who was somewhat well connected politically, he said that he had heard of microwave devices that could project sounds into people's heads, and that this seemed like a good candidate for such a use.
I don't know, but it sure was spooky -- and keep in mind it was a one time event some time ago. I had done work for secret government projects in secured facilities with electromagnetic shielding but it was always with the understanding that there were ways of gathering data both passively and actively from within such facilities via microwaves as well as other frequencies. It really never occurred to me there might be some further purposes to such shielding. Now I'm not so sure. You have to wonder how many of the neocons are literally hearing "the voice of God"...
Seastead this.
wearable Faraday cages are the new fashion statement.
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Let me put it a different way. I am an atheist. I believe that there are no divine beings, and that humans and the universe that we live in were not created by any sort of divine being, intelligence, etc. This is not just an absence of belief in divinity; it is a belief in the absence of divinity.
You may debate whether my atheism is a religion or not, but it is certainly based on faith. Faith is the strong belief in something without proof. I believe in the lack of divinity without any hint of doubt, even though there is no evidence that even suggests that my belief is correct, let alone supports or proves it.
I accept that scientific theories such as the theory of evolution make sense to me, yet these theories don't support my atheistic beliefs at all, since they have nothing to say either in support of or in opposition to the existence of divinity. My acceptance of scientific theories is not based on faith, because I demand proof in order to accept a scientific theory, and will discard the theory if and when convincing evidence shows up that refutes it.
However, my atheism is a matter of faith, since I believe it with absolute conviction, in the complete absence of supporting evidence, and without welcoming reasoned debate that I could be mistaken on that matter. If this is not faith, then what is? I find myself unable to imagine any blinder faith than this.
What was TFA about, again? :-)
Finally we can destroy the terrorists by sending sounds of farting into their very heads, killing them in laughter.
well, at least after they miniaturize it.
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> but they shouldn't be allowed to practice biological science.
Why? Just general religious bigotry on your part or is there some reasoning behind your proposed ban? Granted there are some areas of biological research where they might have some trouble but the field is pretty big. And a lot of so called 'evolution deniers' are in various grey areas. For example, if someone believes that species change over time but that the heap big skyfather is who kickstarted life instead of spontanious random genesis they can probably do 99.9% of what is currently done in biology with zero problems.
Sounds like you just want to supress any disenting views from your chosen religion. And yes secular humanism IS a religion in that it attempts to provide an all encompasing Theory to explain Life, the Universe and Everything complete with a moral code, which is why I'm an agnostic.
I suspect science might eventually explain the universe but it damned sure isn't close today. Science, logic and pure reason are currently poor tools to develop a moral code from, just as an example. Science is good at describing the universe, or the What part. Answering Why, not so good. And since pretty much by definition any attempt to ask about the universe pre big bang isn't science it is a poor tool to ask some of the really big questions of.... at least as we currently understand physics.
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We all be wearing shielded motorcycle helmets outside with light limiting glasses(new toy lasers) walking in shielded full-body suits,living in shielded homes.
Its just like one of the Gibson novels seeping into reality.
"With or without religion you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." -- Dr. Steven Weinberg
"The pulses create a shockwave inside the skull that's detected by the ears, and basically makes you think you're going balls-to-the-wall batshit insane."
I still do not see how my wife would detect a difference.
"If a boss demands loyalty, give him integrity. But if he demands integrity, give him loyalty." (John Boyd, 1927-1997)
I thought "taser" was just another name for "cattle prod". :)
I see enormous benefits in this technology.
1. Listening to music as loud as you want while not forcing it on others
You can count on two things: microwaves generating "cranial audio illusions" of the same magnitude of a loud rock show will be deadly, and the frequency range will be limited, nowhere near 20-20k Hz.
A rock show will have upwards of 30,000W of power driving speakers of the highest efficiency available. So imagine sticking your head into about 40 microwave ovens at once. It's ok, they're not tuned to the water-boiling frequency. You'll be just fine. Promise.
Knock on your head, that's probably the lowest note that can be produced, and not much more than maybe two octaves above that. Beyond that range the sounds either can't be produced or cannot pass through the grey matter. For lower tones you'd have to resonate the ribcage, but I expect ribs don't reflect microwaves nearly as well as the skull. For higher sounds you'd have to target the inner ear itself very precisely. Unless the target is wearing custom earrings for a guidance system to follow, you're s.o.l.
2. Rocking out to the loudest concert in history without anyone outside the venue hearing a whisper of it (on second thought, the RIAA might require this, so maybe it's not so good)
If sound waves were created inside someone of the magnitude of a loud rock show, it would be very audible to others. When you "feel the bass" it's up around 127dB and literally making your ribcage resonate. Believe me, you need much more power to drive a room full of people compared to an empty one, and that's a two-way street - a crowd full of resonating ribcages would radiate no less than a sound system. If >127dB were produced inside you your ribcage would essentially be a passive subwoofer, possibly resulting in the much-heralded "brown note".
3. Throwing a gigantic party with great tunes while letting the geezer next door -- who never listens to anything harder than Captain and Tennille -- get his beauty sleep
You and your guests would be discovered dead by your much irritated geezer neighbor. And let's not overlook how loud they would have to shout at each other to be heard over the music.
Also it's unlikely that the effect could be produced from omnidirectional microwave emitters. It has to be a pair of directional emitters, like two lasers and not a light bulb. The effect is called a "resultant". Hit two adjacent high keys on a piano and you'll hear a lower note underneath, the result of constructive modular interference. No one emitter can produce resultants, and the relative distance between the target and the emitters would have to be exactly equal.
I wonder how many people I just got to hit themselves in the head...
War as we knew it was obsolete
Nothing could beat complete denial
- Emily Haines
1) Subliminal messages don't work. It's a sham that a psychologist made with fake data that scared the crap out of politicians so that a law was implemented quickly and people fear it to this day (though I still do fear spammers using this, as they have no morals).
So... Why exactly do you fear it if it doesn't work?
Because audible spam in my head would be even worse than the e-mailed spam in my in-box or the visible spam on billboards (and bus stops, sides of buildings/cars, etc.)
I do not know why, but reading all this makes me want to buy some cheap Viagra.
"If a boss demands loyalty, give him integrity. But if he demands integrity, give him loyalty." (John Boyd, 1927-1997)
we would face the ultimate unstoppable rickrolling!
... could be used to torture people and leave absolutely no physical evidence behind, ever?
I wonder, would it be any worse torture or any less detectable than, say, blasting regular noise into a prisoner's cell at high volume?
From the article, it sounds like it -- whereas your body has devices in place to stop extremely loud noises (up to and including self-destructing your eardrums if needed), it has no safeguards in play for a voice like this being blasted from inside your head.
Indeed, from above:
MEDUSA involves a microwave auditory effect "loud" enough to cause discomfort or even incapacitation. Sadovnik says that normal audio safety limits do not apply since the sound does not enter through the eardrums.
"The repel effect is a combination of loudness and the irritation factor," he says. "You can't block it out."
So in other words, this is a sound gun that you can't block out, is 4+ TIMES louder than a rocket engine, and causes "disorientation" and "incapacitation".
Sure, the idea is that they'll play this at a crowd (no more WTO Protests in OUR Amerika) and the crowd will have to disperse.
But what if they just do this to some poor non-Person like the illegal detainees at Guantanamo? Lock someone in a room, turn on this device (or that pain gun that supposedly feels like your skin is melting off) and come back in 2-3 days.
By then, they'll be willing to do ANYTHING to get it to stop. And best of all, no nasty evidence to even have to cover up. Bonus!
This deserves more discussion. I wonder if anyone out there with more time (aka not at work) has looked into if and on whom they even tested this device. It has many many many applications and no matter the results it will most likely be heavily utilized. But I would love to talk to some of the test subjects in 10 years and see what the long term affects might be.
Okay, who'll be the first to transmit "Do not believe this voice in your head. Or else!"
Actually, agnosticism comes in two flavors, as well: Weak agnosticism says that we merely don't have any compelling arguments and strong agnosticism says that there can be no compelling arguments. Weak agnosticism and weak atheism are very similar and there's only a very slight difference between a sceptic weak agnostic and a weak atheist.
It's not as easy as saying "all X believe/don't believe". Some atheists believe, some don't. Same goes for agnostics.
And then you have ignosticism, an agnosticism derivate which postulates that the question whether God exists doesn't matter at all. Ignosticism has an opinion ("it doesn't matter"), but it doesn't neccessarily have a belief - uness you count "it doesn't matter" as a belief, in which case it does.
Actually, it does in all cases.
In the end it all comes down to whether someone makes an assumption without having hard data to back it up. Everyone falls under this - even weak agnostics can't claim without assumption that there is no proof unless they have evaluated every proof so far and ignostics can't claim without assumption that it doesn't matter because it could matter.
Everyone believes. As soon as you make an assumption, that's a belief. Since we don't have definitive, widely accepted proof in this area so far, everyone operate on nothing but belief, even the guys who say they don't care about the topic. Arguing over whether one believes or not is pointless and so is being offended by the notion.
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Let's recap, so that's: invisible (1), silent (2), mind reading (3) with ray guns that make you hear voices.
George Orwell was an optimist.
1.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/20/researchers-develop-metamaterial-with-negative-refractive-index/
2.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080109104244.htm
3.
http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1172900547;fp;16;fpid;1
Terry: How did you know you weren't hearing voices?
Bruce: Well, for one, I'm not psychotic.
Terry: Well, I hope your other answer's more convincing.
Bruce: Second, the voice kept calling me, "Bruce". That's not what I call myself.
Terry: Oh? What do you call yourself?
[Bruce gives Terry a long stare]
Terry: [in realization] Oh! You would. [changing voice] But remember, that's my name now.
Bruce: Tell my subconscious that.
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
Would a fairaday cage hat work as well?
No, that's the Fifth Element. The missing component is obviously an Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator. Thankfully, the Acme corporation has a large supply.
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Think about it, there is no way to proove it was ever used. If you point it at someone driving a car and use it at max volume there will be an acident. If you point it at a politician making a speech itll ruin they reputation...We are just doomed.
I agree with everything you said IN THEORY, however it's been my experience that things don't work out that way in PRACTICE. I have nothing but (quite a bit of) personal circumstantial evidence to back up my beliefs though.
All I can hear is:
"Heeeeer'es Johnny!
Have gnu, will travel.
Ha!
I'll have my tinfoil hat and earplugs!
Beat that fascist government!
Soldier: "Hey you in the tinfoil hat! Out the way! There's a runaway train coming!"
Me: "Ha! Fascist soldier scum, you cant influence m-"...SPLAT!
No, Celine Dion's cover of you shook me all night long is a crime against humanity add this to the microwave brain zapper to force people to listen it and you have a genuine weapon of mass disparagement.
Cleanse me!!!!!!!
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
Actually, the strainer isn't a half bad idea, as long as the size of the holes is smaller than the wavelength of the microwave and you could cover the whole head with it. Might not be for fashion conscious types, but it beats a hemorrhaged brain.
2. Rocking out to the loudest concert in history without anyone outside the venue hearing a whisper of it (on second thought, the RIAA might require this, so maybe it's not so good)
Followed by a dead-black spaceship plummeting into a nearby sun.
Do not mock my vision of impractical footwear
Two words: Jiffy POP.
How do you turn EM waves into audio waves by heterodyning though? (besides the fact that you'd have to decrease the frequency by at least 10^4, which would require a lot of precision)
I hear M$ is going to acquire it.
You mean I'll have MORE voices in my head?
I killed da wabbit -Elmer Fudd
4. Telling Westboro Baptist Church members that God doesn't hate fags, She hate _them_.
"This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
4. Getting brain cancer
At long last slashdotters will actually have a chance (albeit small) of getting laid by using this device. Just aim it at a hot chick, put suggestions in her head, and go for it. Of course, you'll still have to be able to perform with a live human female.
Sorry but FAIL, do your research.
The medusa tech does 1 thing and only 1 thing and that's send audio signals on a microwave signal so that headphones do no protect your ears from the signal.
But protection is ez and already exists. A microwave silence stream for headphones has already been developed so this makes it completely useless in military applications execpt in areas that can't afford the equipment to cancel it out.
2nd, it has no effect on people who are deaf.
Of course a tinfoil hat will be no defence since your head will burst into flames.
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...already hear voices in their head?
Now avoiding TFA like the plague, it occurs to me that "shockwaves" within the skull able to cause hydrostatic pressure loads comparable to 120+ decibels (is that loud enough for ya?) hitting your eardrums might just damage something other than eardrums.
But lets not even think about the fine possibilities such as massive damage on the cellular level - just consider the overpressures that could be set up within blood vessels. It will be interesting to see if there is any increase in "massive cerebral hemorrage" as a cause of death going forward.
TFA actually has something on this:
James Lin of the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department at the University of Illinois in Chicago says that MEDUSA is feasible in principle. He has carried out his own work on the technique, and was even approached by the music industry about using microwave audio to enhance sound systems, he told New Scientist. "But is it going to be possible at the power levels necessary?" he asks. Previous microwave audio tests involved very "quiet" sounds that were hard to hear, a high-power system would mean much more powerful â" and potentially hazardous â" shockwaves. "I would worry about what other health effects it is having," says Lin. "You might see neural damage."
Missing link is:
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Would this be the first crowd control device to have both "stun" and "kill" settings?
Crap, I forgot. I guess I may become the next testie.
You know that Stalin was a Christian and Mao was Confucian.
But don't let the facts get in the way of Atheist bashing. As has been said before, Atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby (PS I'm a stamp not-collector as well).
Oh, and whilst were being childish, Mao is the Thai word for drunk.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
So, I guess we'll need an updated version of MindGuard then?
Leela: "Is all the work done by children?" Alien: "No, not the whipping."
The world is becoming more and more like a Philip K. Dick novel.
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Reported being able to hear Dennis Leary's "Voices in my head" at a distance of 3 kilometers...
If they see someone with a tinfoil hat, they'll probably just yell at him.
Exactly! Stay beneath the radar (literally) by buying my tinfoil-lined hoodie. (pat. applied for)
would put something else all over your head (if you are a girl)
There's a couple of political and religious rallies that need attendin'.
This sounds like a follow-on to the Neurophone, a gadget invented by Pat Flanagan back in the 1970s to let deaf persons hear by inducing signals via RF that the brain interpreted as sound. One of the odd features of this approach was that the inducer could be placed elsewhere than on the head and the 'sound' would still be heard.
Didn't the Val Kilmer flick "Real Genius" have a plot line like this?
Remember the sonic weapon from Firefly?
Two by two, hands of blue. Two by two, hands of blue.
Remove the +(12) from near the end and you see a NYY baseball cap
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"acute".....
http://nearingzero.net/screen_res/nz017.jpg
No doubt. I wonder at which pressures brain tissue begins cavitation...
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I always have used Sierra Nevada to REMOVE the voices in my head. Better yet, it comes in different styles, and the headache and confusion are time-delayed in their version of the product by at least 8 hours.
Increasing the dosage slightly makes you impervious to the voices OUTSIDE your head as well. Comes in handy when others want to "abort the mission".
Amazingly, increasing your dosage even more actually renders you completely INVISIBLE. Might be a slight shimmer like predator, because others with Sierra Nevada Invisiblility can still occasionally find you, especially if you owe them money.
Unfortunately, when you try to bring any of your newfound powers near a car or other vehicle, motorized or not, dangerous wormholes can be created, warping you right into nearby objects with startling unpredictablility. DO NOT ATTEMPT. That whole "great power, great responsibility" thing.
I wonder what a Military-Grade/Weaponized version of the holiday Celebration Ale would do....
These are not the droids you're looking for.
I don't know what to think about the moderation on this one. My post was meant to be funny, but you seem to have captured my humorous intentions better than I did. Either way, I accept your nomination and will immediately begin my search for qualified voice actors.
Women are like electronics: you don't know how damaged they are until you try to turn them on.
you actively believe t5here is no god. You have faith there is no god. I don't believe actively there is no god. I am saying I am waiting for falsification/evidence of its existence, until then I put it in the same category as pink flying unicorn, ice breathing dragons, santa claus. In other word my atheism is not based on faith at all. Thus the argument that atheism is based on faith is a false over generalization (and the argument it is a religion is even wronger). QED.
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"...a damned scary ray gun that uses the 'microwave audio effect' to implant sounds and perhaps even specific messages inside people's heads."
A little late to be crying "damned scary" wolf. The effects was proven about 25 years ago.
Yes, specific messages. In the original research the test was to beam spoken numbers (one at a time, 1 through 20) at the subject and have them guess which number it was. Results were 80% to 100% correct.
It's not subliminal in the denotation of 'below the level of conscious awareness'. The perception is that of a "heard" sound.
I'm surprised it took this long for someone to come out with this. The original works was, after all, done on commercially technology of the time.
"I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
Damn you - I won't be able to get those bloody Vikings out of my mind for days now!
One swallow does not a fellatrix make
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Priceless :o)
One swallow does not a fellatrix make
He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!
One swallow does not a fellatrix make
That would accomplish what? By what physical mechanism would microwave energy be converted into sound waves?
The parent is talking out of his (admittedly venerable) ass, which he more or less admits. The technology works exactly like your microwave oven. It rapidly heats an object using rf energy, in this case a skull, not a baked potato. The only thing that's changed is the power is cycled so that the cyclical heating causes pressure waves. It's the subtle difference in received energy and timing of the rf bursts that makes the difference between boiled brains and auditory hallucinations.
Use of the words "good", "bad" or "evil" is almost invariably the result of oversimplification.
Mentalists(/Stage Magicians) such as Derren Brown have been using this style of device for a while to create some very impressive "mind reading" tricks. Eg. "You read my mind" and someone off-stage puts 'the idea' in 'your' head; or "I'll read your mind" where an accomplice procures the required information and aims the "weapon" at /my/ head to pass on the information.
Dick Sutphen also talks about the Neurophone (amongst other things) in his article "The battle for your mind" [PD document] ...It's interesting to follow the development of the Neurophone beyond Dick's paper.
I lol'd.
DRM: Terminator crops for your mind!
Ever tried headbanging with headphones?
Ni.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Ghandi
Let's hope he was right!
the sound bypasses the eardrums and emanates from within the skull
I'm not quite sure what that means, but does it mean (certain) deaf people will be able to hear these microwaves?
Property is theft.
This would be great for magic, or to be more precise, mentalism
wouldn't it be great that if the magican says "I'm sending you a word" and you actually hear one
MEDUSA is troublesome. That won't work! You can't block the sound out once it's inside your head.
bananaphone
And then, there was the girlfriend I had who could put the right thoughts in my head just by flashing certain parts of her anatomy...
Impossible! You must be new here ...
--- I am known for the ones who want to find me on the net. Is that a privacy risk or a privilege? One might wonder..
For the love of god, am I the only one horribly scared of this? The thought of being mentally raped and subjected to all kinds of noise inside my head is deeply disturbing... The inventors and anyone involved in the realization of this project have committed horrible acts of treason against the human race. It's your god damned government, yanks. Do something about it!
It's a ray gun that's putting voicing in your head. A ray run from a shadowy military operation. Because the government wants you to have voices in your head.
Riiight.
What -- you think we have the right to peaceably assemble? Serves them right if they do...
Oh yeah - that 1st Amendment thingy...well we can just repeal that through executive order, like all the rest.
HHOS
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The more you explain it, the more I don't understand it. - Mark Twain
...and tinfoil hats have been shown to actually attenuate certain frequencies. It is essentially a floating (non grounded) antenna.
On the other hand, to make an effective full body Faraday cage, you would need to ensure that it is grounded (via soles of boots, and/or metal fringes on pants touching ground). Given the size of the wavelengths involved, you wouldn't have much mobility in such a suit (picture yourself wrapped head to toe in aluminum mesh screen - like the kind on your screen door).
A better solution might be to build a jammer that neutralizes these waves by generating a wave on the same frequencies out of phase. Of course, if you get it wrong you'll just reinforce the signal and your head will explode...but that's the price you pay to sleep peacefully at night.
I've heard of this kind of thing before. Sadly, they like to pick on people who are already a little border-line and odd. --Thee swarming piranha muggles who get an ego-high from tormenting those who don't quite fit socially can always be counted on to do the dirty work of the Powers That Be by making sure people who dare step outside the draconian social boundaries as established in Jr. High by the popular kids, are punished and ostracized for speaking out. I find it astonishing; so many of the people who visit Slashdot have themselves been similarly treated in this way precisely because they are geeks. They should damned-well know better. --But I've seen it so many times before and I'm sure I'll see it again.
--One of the more poignant episodes which crystallized this repeating pattern into my archetypal reference on this whole behavior type was the day I remember demanding of a room mate why he was tormenting a kid who had made an honest mistake, and his reply was, without a trace of irony, "Well, I was punished all through school, so now it's my turn."
I could have slugged him for being yet another predictable ape incapable of rising above his reptile-brain response behavior as any self-respecting human should always strive to do, but I was too flabbergasted to even close my hanging lower jaw at the time.
I hope everybody will take a moment to read through some of the comments made by certain social cowards, around here with regard to one of your older posts on this same subject. --That is, before the technology in question was officially made 'real' by this current article. . . (News flash, people! It's been around since the cold war. Please, please do some research; all this knowledge is easily and publicly available to anybody with half an ounce of human curiosity.)
People who have been hurt should stand up rather jump at the chance to pass on the misery.
-FL
You are right on the money with the tin foil hat! However you might want to put it under a scully cap, run it all the way down to your shoulder, make the breathing holes point down. Also put on a pair of welding goggles since they will have a high metal content or glasses made from leaded crystal. Don't wear a paper dress the spark the hat gives off could ignite it. You may also want to put a kevlar vest on with a nice aluminum foil covering so the tasers will not work either. No amount of legislation will make Gauss's law go away.
a rudimentary technology built on similar principles. --The reference is gone, gone, gone, (one of the reasons I was disappointed when the Internet Archive had to abandon it's development of its non-linear search feature, "Recall"), but there was once this cool story about an Australian university student who as part of his lab research discovered the following. . .
Morse code-like binary impulses transferred through the skin using low-level electrical pulses which were undetectable by the subject on the conscious layer, were nonetheless able to be interpreted by the subconscious. --This is after hypnosis was used to teach the subject how to interpret the binary code. After that point, test volunteers could be given very specific instructions which they would actually follow to the letter without realizing that the motivation to act had not come as a result of their own thinking. They thought they were acting on their own ideas! Stunning. According to the lead researcher, (before his website vanished), he got freaked out when other strange things started to surface with his subjects which his experiments should not have had anything to do with, so he aborted the whole experiment.
Now I don't know what to make of that, (which is why I'd love to review the story and perhaps contact the guy to find out what the actual scoop was), but the ideas all certainly sound like they can easily exist within the realm of the possible. How many of your ideas and impulses in life are really your own? It just reinforces the importance, as the Buddhists suggest, to practice 'mindfulness'. Question yourself and your actions all the time and make sure they pass your own filters of rational behavior. Beware of strong impulses which don't make sense; think through them carefully before acting on faith that just because it feels good and right that it must necessarily be good and right. I think we've all learned how bad it can be to hit, "Submit" before reviewing.
-FL
Saying your eardrums can "self-destruct" as a protective mechanism seems a bit like saying your body will self-destruct to protect you from the pain of being caught in an explosion ... but I think I get your point. Still, I don't think the ray gun would be different. If you perceive sound, it is due to the bones in your inner ear vibrating. The big difference from "normal" sound is that you can't stop it by covering your ears, because the vibrations are starting in your skull (maybe you *could* stop it by covering your whole head with something). I would think that it could cause hearing loss, just like an external noise.
Prov 9:8 Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you.
I concur
I concur
I concur
I think you mean 20th.. he was frozen just at midnight on new years of 2000 and wouldn't know anything about the 21st century...
if you copied that from some place, I sense plot hole.
Mmmm ... Coca Cola ...
We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
"Insistence on evidence is the inverse of faith."
No, its the inverse of naivity. Faith has been abused by religion for so long, it now has these unfortunate definitions, but the Bible itself defines faith as "...the /assured/ expectation of things hoped for, the /evident demonstration/ of realities, though not beheld." (Heb 11:1).
Faith is based on assurance, evidence and demonstration. It is very akin to trust - you don't trust someone for no reason (hopefully) - you trust them because they have proved over time that there is reason to trust that person.
If someone has no reason for their "faith", that is no faith. That's just gullible.
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7Hz-8Hz is the resonant frequency of an adult human skull.
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Looks like there aren't enough Girl Genius fans on here to mod you up. And here's me without mod points...
Well, your post makes me think that Florida is just full of crazy. I mean, really, what are the odds that you will have a friend who is paranoid and a brother is has the same paranoia? That means one of two things: 1. You are living in a mental hospital or 2. You work for the government and they don't "know" it!
Huh?
Now I'm afraid to go to any protests...
The effect has been known since 1962 and was experimented with by both sides of the cold war. However, the research was discontinued when they realized shooting microwaves into peoples sculls is quite dangerous (who would have thought?). However, with the ethic standards of the modern USA, inducing madness in enemies while frying their brains will be just be the next cool toy in the vast arsenal of the American army. Opression, war and torture is the name of the game. I hope the nice folks of Sierra Nevada Corporation sleep soundly at night. And silently.
Read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect
Wonder if it'd be possible to nullify it with some nuclear-powered sound dampening headphones...
Is that because you write things like the word salad above?
Do you actually understand all the often-seen clauses you've stuck together, or are you just repeating them? To me it looks a lot like you're doing the latter.
As an example, your last paragraph comprises several clichés ("... What part. Answering Why..."), offers up an unsupportable assertion ("poor tools"), and misses out on qc-gr work on Boundary Conditions (of which the BB is one). The scientific method is simply an approach to rigourously testing wild ass guesses and (in physics) rejecting those that are inconsistent with what we can observe of nature. This does not at all preclude applicability to wild ass guesses about things which are only indirectly visible to us, and there are plenty of cosmologies involving physical interactions between our Hubble Volume and others. Some of those will share our initial boundary condition (our big bang) while others may have other initial boundary conditions, or might share one or both boundary conditions in the reverse sense (starting at our "Big Rip"/"Big Empty", ending at our Big Bang). These hypotheses can be examined with the scientific method when they predict things we can look for in our sky (or in labs), and so are amenable to the scientific method, contrary to your assertion.
I think your understanding is weak (or poorly elucidated) with respect to whether there is a line between "what" and "why", and (if there is one) how it can be moved around through reductionist and (statistical) emergentist physicalism (or perhaps biological naturalism), and the rigourous testing thereof.
The "Demarcation Problem" is mainly a way of being civil to people who don't want their beliefs tested rigourously and systematically, including the many scientists (past and present) who have held beliefs that might not survive systematic testing. Civility, however, should not be considered endorsement, and should not require false agnosticism particularly in the face of minuscule probabilities that in standard empirical testing would be considered essentially zero.
Actual agnosticism is best addressed through systematic testing. If you have a hypothesis that X exists (for any value of X, including things like souls or gods) then the scientific method should help you structure a set of experiments which would let you observe and repeatedly measure X, if X exists beyond an increasingly low probability. At some point, when chasing down physical hypotheses, scientists will give up and say the probability of X existing is essentially zero, since the nonzero part of the probability does not admit a single observable effects within the scale of the Hubble Volume. Before that point, agnosticism is real; after that point, agnosticism is false.
Many experimentalists have looked for evidence of supernatural "X"es of various types, none have been able to produce repeatable evidence. If such evidence of above-chance X became known (and became repeatable) it would be extremely hard to suppress, particularly since "believers" in "X"es like to publish more widely than academic journals.
So, perhaps as an agnostic, you might convince yourself it is your moral duty to make yourself less agnostic, by clearly demonstrating the existence of things about which you are agnostic, or clearly demonstrating a further reduction in probability of their existence. I think that would be cool. I shall urge agnostics to consider that approach.
That's hard to read as anything other than proselytizing.
It seems to me that if you were a really power-hungry atheist, you may pretend to be of a given religion if it would serve your purpose of winning the hearts and minds of the people. Who would know the difference?
I like my coffee the way I like my women - roasted and ground up into little tiny pieces.
Looks like Merlin's fashion choice was ahead of its time! (no pun intended)
Pretty much describes all religious political leaders.
Stalin wasn't a religious leader, he was raised a Christian in Georgia (now part of southern Russia) by his violent father. That stayed with him for all his life even though he never used religion as part of his leadership (why would he need to, he had Bolshevik rhetoric to rely on).
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Another use would be message transfer. Who needs a radio on the battlefield when your commander can beam orders into your head? (Just hope he/she has it turned down).
I'm glad at least that there are a few of us! :D
"What in the name of Fats Waller is that?"
"A four-foot prune."
Ever read The Anubis Gates? I did years ago, and reading now about grounding through the heel to protect against these modern magics suddenly gives me shivers of deja vu...
Cheers,
"What in the name of Fats Waller is that?"
"A four-foot prune."