Personally, I see it not so much as an artificial distinction, but as that both parties are really very close on most subjects, and therefore tend to try to magnify the small differences there are and paint them as huge issues that deserve your attention and vote.
I would agree that following the party line is not good, and that one should not "color" oneself in these ways. On some subjects, I side with conservatives, and on some, I agree with liberals, and on most, I see some truth coming from both. My issue is that most people are sheep on these subjects, and just pick someone and follow( cue the Life of Brian jokes / imagry ) and without further thought or reflection go along.
You are talking about the parties, I am talking about the people that constitute those parties. The knee-jerk conservative / fearfull/protectionist liberal is one that supports the party line regardless. Ditto-heads come to mind. Those who do not apply their intellect to decide or choose.
Funny, not wanting to insult anyone either, but I have always thought of the "liberal" / "conservative" split as the conservatives tend to oversimplify, where the liberals tend to try to think things thru. That, of course, is just my observation.
I divide the conservatives into "thoughtful conservatives", and "knee-jerk conservatives". The latter being those that say things like "this regulation did X that is bad, get rid of all regulation". The liberals into "thoughtful liberals" and "fearfull/protectionist liberals".
Now the terrorists use makeup or whatever disguising techniques to make up one of their number as Senator Edward Kennedy, since they know that they can get a supervisor type person to "visually identify" him, since he is so well known. That or any of a number of famous people.
You are correct, "recongizing" someone is not sufficient.
I am thinking you are kidding, but it is kinda hypocritical to complain about how "they" did it to "us", then recommend that "we" do it back to "them". How can "we" claim to be anything but "them" this way, really?
Problem with that is how do I tell which sites those are apriori? If this is how things "ought to be", then those sites need to identify themselves so I can make a decision about whether to visit or not. There is no way for me to tell as things stand now.
An alternate to this, I lived in an apartment complex for a time that had it's own satellite system installed. And, you guessed it, it had no broadband capabilities.
I did not do dialup, I just went entirely without, as I *loved* the cable modem I had at my previous apt. I was *so* relieved when we could afford to move. ( And it was into a TimeWarner area, which is what I had had before the satellite system apartment, so I got my old email address back. Found a couple emails had arrived in the meantime... )
They need people to buy the stock to make the money. Maybe they dont think enough will buy if there isnt some profit "headroom". Perhaps there is a bit of PR/Goodwill mixed in there as well.
I was assuming, however, that they are aiming at a different way of watching the movies, one where the movies are in some catalog on the net, and one could browse to and watch, when one wanted, from the net. Then we find that TIVO has the catalog and stream to TIVO part of thing done (probably in concert with a big player in the entergainment industry, for the catalog), and they charge for this new service that they have enabled with their devices.
1: It would be nice to have a better feeling that we were not misled into the war. If the above was the true thinking of the administration about why to enter the war, it would have been good to have expressed that up front.
2: On WWII, there were politics involved in that war as well, but the provocation was much more direct (I.E. Japan's raid on Pearl Harbor, Germany's declaration of war (the real thing Roosevelt wanted, but not guaranteed by anything the Japanese did...)) Distance has dimmed things a bit, so it is harder to see today. Also the nature of news reporting has changed. In WWII, you got a condensed version with censoring, no TV pictures of our dead each night, and I think few headlines blaring the number of killed in action from the night or week before. Contrast with Vietnam.
Speculation on my part, but another possiblity is that google is trying to leave a bit of room for the stock to appreciate post IPO. This would leave some profitability for the IPO speculative investors, perhaps as an inducement to buy?
Sorry, I am sure you will be informed in time, but due to security concerns, we (USA) have annexed Toronto. Being the generous people we are, you may still call us 'Hoser'. Please remember to use the plural to refer to all of us. Eh?
I'll bet that the feudal Lords also thought that their way was the endpoint of all economic systems, to the extent that they thougth about economics...
And whatever comes ( assuming something does, I believe something will ), it will probably be as unrecognizable to us as capitalism was to those of the feudal era.
I shouldnt worry about it. It will come when we are ready for it, not before.
I had read about that as well. Interesting what the early pioneers had to go thru to make things work. I keep thinking that it would be interesting to look on old core memory would be a step up! Mercury lines and CRT memory must have been hard to work with. Glad I can only imagine!
A: Outside F/OSS projects, most of the platform decisions are made by the *management* of the company doing the development work. And they make them based on things, sometime stupid, sometimes ( rarely ) not.
B: While there is much that benefits from a web interface, not every UI should be a web interface. Having an embedded system running apache in particular seems a mismatch.
C: Stop casting aspersions. Not every developer "...creates a mess, comfortable in the knowledge that you will always have a future cleaning up after yourself...". I have met a few like you are talking about, but only a few. Most of the developers I have worked with care about doing a good job.
D: I do agree that using Windows in an embedded system is hugely the wrong choice. As a developer, I dont often get to make that choice.
Slashdot Mirror
IM as as web page.
All the roles played by Peter Sellers. Now dont bother me with the fact that he is dead, just get it done!
Personally, I see it not so much as an artificial distinction, but as that both parties are really very close on most subjects, and therefore tend to try to magnify the small differences there are and paint them as huge issues that deserve your attention and vote.
I would agree that following the party line is not good, and that one should not "color" oneself in these ways. On some subjects, I side with conservatives, and on some, I agree with liberals, and on most, I see some truth coming from both. My issue is that most people are sheep on these subjects, and just pick someone and follow( cue the Life of Brian jokes / imagry ) and without further thought or reflection go along.
Thank you for an interesting response.
You are talking about the parties, I am talking about the people that constitute those parties.
The knee-jerk conservative / fearfull/protectionist liberal is one that supports the party line regardless. Ditto-heads come to mind. Those who do not apply their intellect to decide or choose.
Thanks!
If only there were only more "thoughtful"-whatevers. Perhaps more real workable compromise could be reached on many matters.
Funny, not wanting to insult anyone either, but I have always thought of the "liberal" / "conservative" split as the conservatives tend to oversimplify, where the liberals tend to try to think things thru. That, of course, is just my observation.
I divide the conservatives into "thoughtful conservatives", and "knee-jerk conservatives". The latter being those that say things like "this regulation did X that is bad, get rid of all regulation". The liberals into "thoughtful liberals" and "fearfull/protectionist liberals".
But that is just me.
Now the terrorists use makeup or whatever disguising techniques to make up one of their number as Senator Edward Kennedy, since they know that they can get a supervisor type person to "visually identify" him, since he is so well known. That or any of a number of famous people.
You are correct, "recongizing" someone is not sufficient.
I am thinking you are kidding, but it is kinda hypocritical to complain about how "they" did it to "us", then recommend that "we" do it back to "them". How can "we" claim to be anything but "them" this way, really?
Shouldnt the tool get out of your way rather than in your way?
Yep, that sure was "redundant".
Problem with that is how do I tell which sites those are apriori? If this is how things "ought to be", then those sites need to identify themselves so I can make a decision about whether to visit or not. There is no way for me to tell as things stand now.
An alternate to this, I lived in an apartment complex for a time that had it's own satellite system installed. And, you guessed it, it had no broadband capabilities.
I did not do dialup, I just went entirely without, as I *loved* the cable modem I had at my previous apt. I was *so* relieved when we could afford to move. ( And it was into a TimeWarner area, which is what I had had before the satellite system apartment, so I got my old email address back. Found a couple emails had arrived in the meantime... )
See how they needed the spell checking?
They need people to buy the stock to make the money. Maybe they dont think enough will buy if there isnt some profit "headroom". Perhaps there is a bit of PR/Goodwill mixed in there as well.
I dont know.
Yup.
I was assuming, however, that they are aiming at a different way of watching the movies, one where the movies are in some catalog on the net, and one could browse to and watch, when one wanted, from the net. Then we find that TIVO has the catalog and stream to TIVO part of thing done (probably in concert with a big player in the entergainment industry, for the catalog), and they charge for this new service that they have enabled with their devices.
Course, then the copy cats follow.
Two things:
1: It would be nice to have a better feeling that we were not misled into the war. If the above was the true thinking of the administration about why to enter the war, it would have been good to have expressed that up front.
2: On WWII, there were politics involved in that war as well, but the provocation was much more direct (I.E. Japan's raid on Pearl Harbor, Germany's declaration of war (the real thing Roosevelt wanted, but not guaranteed by anything the Japanese did...)) Distance has dimmed things a bit, so it is harder to see today. Also the nature of news reporting has changed. In WWII, you got a condensed version with censoring, no TV pictures of our dead each night, and I think few headlines blaring the number of killed in action from the night or week before. Contrast with Vietnam.
Speculation on my part, but another possiblity is that google is trying to leave a bit of room for the stock to appreciate post IPO. This would leave some profitability for the IPO speculative investors, perhaps as an inducement to buy?
Free/Open software seems to be working fine.
Sorry, I am sure you will be informed in time, but due to security concerns, we (USA) have annexed Toronto. Being the generous people we are, you may still call us 'Hoser'. Please remember to use the plural to refer to all of us. Eh?
I'll bet that the feudal Lords also thought that their way was the endpoint of all economic systems, to the extent that they thougth about economics...
And whatever comes ( assuming something does, I believe something will ), it will probably be as unrecognizable to us as capitalism was to those of the feudal era.
I shouldnt worry about it. It will come when we are ready for it, not before.
If people were more cooperative, like ants or dogs perhaps, communism would work fine.
I had read about that as well. Interesting what the early pioneers had to go thru to make things work. I keep thinking that it would be interesting to look on old core memory would be a step up! Mercury lines and CRT memory must have been hard to work with. Glad I can only imagine!
I dont know if I would say mainframe, but early computers used what was called a Mercury Delay line
I will not be super suprised to find that Daryl et al find themselves jobs requiring relocation to Redmond.
A: Outside F/OSS projects, most of the platform decisions are made by the *management* of the company doing the development work. And they make them based on things, sometime stupid, sometimes ( rarely ) not.
B: While there is much that benefits from a web interface, not every UI should be a web interface. Having an embedded system running apache in particular seems a mismatch.
C: Stop casting aspersions. Not every developer "...creates a mess, comfortable in the knowledge that you will always have a future cleaning up after yourself...". I have met a few like you are talking about, but only a few. Most of the developers I have worked with care about doing a good job.
D: I do agree that using Windows in an embedded system is hugely the wrong choice. As a developer, I dont often get to make that choice.