> You're not a science crackpot on sampling (though apparently on Einstein???),
Calling people who are published on arxiv.org as "crackpots" only makes you look like an idiot. Where are your published papers?
Einstein was human. He made mistakes -- he even admitted to one as the biggest blunder of his life. If you would take off your myopic glasses and realize that criticism != crackpot you might actually learn something.
He spent the rest of his life trying to unify the four fundamental forces and come up with a ToE (Theory of Everything.) Newsflash -- he failed. Einstein's Theory of Relatively, by definition, is incomplete; this is a well known fact. Unsolved Problems in Special and General Relativity also attests to that. It specifically point out 21 currently unsolved problems. Scientists have made zero break throughs in the past 50 years as well. Questioning the fundamentals is the _foundation_ of Science. But keep name calling people who question the assumptions as crackpots. I'm sure you have a replacement theory that explains it all.
Gee, if only there was a List of Unsolved Problems in Science. Oh wait, there is. Are you going to call all THOSE scientists who study these things crackpots as well ??
> drain him of $30k for audio equipment.
Why are you so insecure / jealous that other people have that kind of money to spend?
> but you believe in humans with super-human hearing.
Not just, believe, but I know it first hand because I live with one. My wife has extra-sensory perception in both sight and sound. I'll trust her senses over your denial any day.
But go ahead and keep labeling people who disagree with your limited knowledge. Just be aware that you look like a fool when you do. The real question you should be asking yourself is "When will you grow up?"
If this is actually implemented will be interesting to see how much they save in a few years-- especially as they will end up re-building the existing infrastructure.
The article didn't mentioned it but I'm also curious if they start using their own electric vehicles as well? (Similar to how Google has backup DC power to their servers.)
i.e.
Another illustration of Google's obsession with efficiency comes through power supply design. Power supplies convert conventional AC (alternating current--what you get from a wall socket) electricity into the DC (direct current--what you get from a battery) electricity, and typical power supplies provide computers with both 5-volt and 12-volt DC power. Google's designs supply only 12-volt power, with the necessary conversions taking place on the motherboard.
It will also be interesting to see how Fedex and UPS respond to this.
I wonder if Amazon will pass along any savings to customers?
If you would actually _read_ any of the current papers you'd realize Einstein hand-waves the infinite sequence mc^2 as being finite. His work is incomplete as many others point out. The Factor 2 in Fundamental Physics
He _was NOT_ the first to discover the E=mc^2 relationship. Henry Poincare derived it 5 years earlier. Mass-Energy Equivalence
Herrmann also points, mc^2, is an infinite series:
"The approximation is usual obtained by expanding mc^2 = m0 c^2/(1 - v^2/c^2 ) ^ 1/2 into an infinite series, where m0 is the "rest" mass. This gives mc^2 = m0 c ^2 + (1/2)m0v^2 + (3/8)m0v^4/c^2 +.... This series contains the m0c 2 term and other "energy terms" such as a term for classical kinetic energy. In this case, the approximation is made exact by claiming that all terms, other than m0c^2 , represent an additional kinetic energy effect. Then one âoeselects,â rather than derives, E = mc^2 and E0 = m0*c^2 apparently based upon the previous incorrect Einstein radiation 'proof.' "
The above Einstein approximation process did not go unnoticed. Max Planck made mention of it and I will quote Planck in a moment.
But go ahead and keep bringing up topics that you know jack about and that have _nothing_ to do with the sample rate of CD's.
> accuse Nyquist
Who said anything about the Nyquist being wrong? Show me where I said that??
CD's 44 KHz playback can only (perfectly) reconstruct signals at 22 KHz. That is inadequate for _some_ people. Why do you assume everyone else is just as tone deaf as you ??
To use an analogy of your stupidity:
Some people (incorrectly) believe you can't see frame rates higher then 30. There is a clear difference between 30 Hz, 60 Hz, and 120 Hz. Most people will never notice it, but for others crappy 24 and 30 Hz look stuttery as hell. 24 Hz is "good enough" for most people the same way 16-bit 44 KHz is "good enough" for most people.
The funny thing is I'm currently considering switching away from Chrome. I never realized how much telemetry is sends. (I hear you about Win 10 !! I refuse to use it except when mandated at work.)
If you go the Chrome route there is an _awesome_ extension called: Tabs Outliner It has a separate window that shows ALL your tabs (both open and closed) vertically ! https://chrome.google.com/webs...
I'm not trying to "sell" you on Chrome -- I really wish this extension existed for FF.
So if FF sucks due to memory leaks, Chrome spys on you, then what browser is left? Chromium?
> As for tabs, it doesn't seem to matter. I might typically have ~15 tabs open on two or three instances of FF, but I've seen it do this with two tabs on a single instance.
That confirms what I used to see too.
>The odd thing is that it doesn't seem to happen any faster with more tabs open, but I haven't really done any serious testing on that. It just seems that after ~24 hours or so it hits the RAM limit and starts to barf whether I have 5 tabs open or 20 tabs open.
Interesting that you can hit this in 24 hours. In the past it would take me a few days.
I did a little testing over the years. Once I noticed FF used 2+ GB I would close all tabs except one. How the frig does FF use 2+ GB with only one tab open !?!?!
Garbage Collection was added inFirefox 38 via
about:memory
But the Free Memory (GC), (CC), and (Minimize memory usage) does jack.
I'll restart FF with the single tab and FF will be back down to ~ 100 MB./sarcasm Yup, there is no memory leak! NOT.
> Now we're up to version 49.x and it's still doing it...
I'm not surprised. I got tired of the devs making the excuse that FF doesn't have a memory leak when it clearly does for a few people.
I really resisted Chrome until 2010 until I noticed that the memory leak was never going to be fixed. Chrome runs each tab in its process -- which is awesome. You can kill each tab individually to get memory back !
I've had that _exact_ same problem since the FF 2.0 days!! Yes 2.0.
I eventually gave up and switched to Chrome.:-/
I never did figure out why FF was a RAM hog. I suspected it might be related to video playback and/or Flash related. Do you browse YouTube (or any other video sites) at all ?
How many tabs do you regularly have open? 10? 50? 100?
I wish FF wasn't such a PITA to compile out of the box. I wouldn't mind logging EVERY malloc() / new() call to see what the hell FF is doing.
> society can get all of its energy needs without energy being built using big data infrastructure.
I'm not sure how you missed the fact that (Big) Data leads to Knowledge which leads to Power and Energy and ultimate Money.
That's why Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, etc. are all building huge data centers. They want a piece of the pie of influencing & controlling because ultimately it will bring profits.
> It certainly did not have an assembler in ROM, you had to type in Hex Opcodes.
Incorrect.
The Apple ][,//e (enhanced), and//c have a mini assembler in ROM. On the Apple ][+ you could load in the Integer Basic into the Language card and use it.
That's what the monitor `!` command does -- it invokes the mini assembler @ F666 with the appropriate ROMs.
I'll probably be down-modded for being snarky but just because you're "tone deaf" and can't tell the difference between 16-bit @ 44 KHz and 24-bit @ 192 KHz doesn't imply everyone else is.
> So, wondering when the masses stopped caring at all about how the music sounded?
It started when CD's became popular and became cemented with the iPod.
16-bit @ 44 KHz was "good enough" for the average Joe. Studios started making "hot" music with very little dynamic range in the 90's. Ripping to 128 Kbps more so.
> I have the Khorns, hell, I have a whole Klipsch surround system
How do the Khorns sound compared to Tannoy's Horns or MartinLogan's Electrostatic speakers ?
-- "When I die I hope my wife sells my speakers for what they're worth rather than what I told her I paid for them."
You keep using this phrase "not a programming language." It doesn't mean what you think it means. Methinks you need to review what a programming language IS because your definition is incomplete.
Your mistake is assuming "assembly language" refers to one canonical language. The truth is Assembly language refers to a family of languages.
As someone who still programs in 6502 assembly language (I work on an emulator in my spare time) then tell me my WHY does my Apple//e have a mini-assembler built into ROM if assembly is not a programming language??? The 6502 mnemonics are stored, compressed, in the ROM of ALL Apple 2 computers, along with a dis-assembler.
I could program in machine code (either decimal or hexadecimal):
300:AD 00 C0 10 FB 8D 10 C0 60
I could use the mini-assembler:
CALL-151 ! 300: LDA $C000
BPL $300
STA $C010
RTS
Or I could use full canonical assembly
; Stupid/. unindents first line
ORG $300
KEYSTROKE EQU $C000
KEYSTROBE EQU $C010 MAIN:
LDA KEYSTROKE
BPL MAIN
STA KEYSTROBE
RTS
So yes, "Assembly" is a programming language. It comes in many flavors. There are even two flavors on x86: GCC assembly and Intel assembly.
-- Apostle Paul the Perverter, 1 Corinthians 11:14
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> You're not a science crackpot on sampling (though apparently on Einstein???),
Calling people who are published on arxiv.org as "crackpots" only makes you look like an idiot. Where are your published papers?
Einstein was human. He made mistakes -- he even admitted to one as the biggest blunder of his life. If you would take off your myopic glasses and realize that criticism != crackpot you might actually learn something.
He spent the rest of his life trying to unify the four fundamental forces and come up with a ToE (Theory of Everything.) Newsflash -- he failed. Einstein's Theory of Relatively, by definition, is incomplete; this is a well known fact. Unsolved Problems in Special and General Relativity also attests to that. It specifically point out 21 currently unsolved problems. Scientists have made zero break throughs in the past 50 years as well. Questioning the fundamentals is the _foundation_ of Science. But keep name calling people who question the assumptions as crackpots. I'm sure you have a replacement theory that explains it all.
Gee, if only there was a List of Unsolved Problems in Science. Oh wait, there is. Are you going to call all THOSE scientists who study these things crackpots as well ??
> drain him of $30k for audio equipment.
Why are you so insecure / jealous that other people have that kind of money to spend?
> but you believe in humans with super-human hearing.
Not just, believe, but I know it first hand because I live with one. My wife has extra-sensory perception in both sight and sound. I'll trust her senses over your denial any day.
But go ahead and keep labeling people who disagree with your limited knowledge. Just be aware that you look like a fool when you do. The real question you should be asking yourself is "When will you grow up?"
If this is actually implemented will be interesting to see how much they save in a few years-- especially as they will end up re-building the existing infrastructure.
The article didn't mentioned it but I'm also curious if they start using their own electric vehicles as well? (Similar to how Google has backup DC power to their servers.)
i.e.
It will also be interesting to see how Fedex and UPS respond to this.
I wonder if Amazon will pass along any savings to customers?
You absolute love non sequiturs, don't you?
If you would actually _read_ any of the current papers you'd realize Einstein hand-waves the infinite sequence mc^2 as being finite. His work is incomplete as many others point out.
The Factor 2 in Fundamental Physics
He _was NOT_ the first to discover the E=mc^2 relationship. Henry Poincare derived it 5 years earlier.
Mass-Energy Equivalence
Herrmann also points, mc^2, is an infinite series:
E = mc^2 is Not Einstein's Discovery
But go ahead and keep bringing up topics that you know jack about and that have _nothing_ to do with the sample rate of CD's.
> accuse Nyquist
Who said anything about the Nyquist being wrong? Show me where I said that??
CD's 44 KHz playback can only (perfectly) reconstruct signals at 22 KHz. That is inadequate for _some_ people. Why do you assume everyone else is just as tone deaf as you ??
To use an analogy of your stupidity:
Some people (incorrectly) believe you can't see frame rates higher then 30. There is a clear difference between 30 Hz, 60 Hz, and 120 Hz. Most people will never notice it, but for others crappy 24 and 30 Hz look stuttery as hell. 24 Hz is "good enough" for most people the same way 16-bit 44 KHz is "good enough" for most people.
The funny thing is I'm currently considering switching away from Chrome. I never realized how much telemetry is sends. (I hear you about Win 10 !! I refuse to use it except when mandated at work.)
If you go the Chrome route there is an _awesome_ extension called: Tabs Outliner
It has a separate window that shows ALL your tabs (both open and closed) vertically !
https://chrome.google.com/webs...
I'm not trying to "sell" you on Chrome -- I really wish this extension existed for FF.
So if FF sucks due to memory leaks, Chrome spys on you, then what browser is left? Chromium?
> As for tabs, it doesn't seem to matter. I might typically have ~15 tabs open on two or three instances of FF, but I've seen it do this with two tabs on a single instance.
That confirms what I used to see too.
>The odd thing is that it doesn't seem to happen any faster with more tabs open, but I haven't really done any serious testing on that. It just seems that after ~24 hours or so it hits the RAM limit and starts to barf whether I have 5 tabs open or 20 tabs open.
Interesting that you can hit this in 24 hours. In the past it would take me a few days.
I did a little testing over the years. Once I noticed FF used 2+ GB I would close all tabs except one. How the frig does FF use 2+ GB with only one tab open !?!?!
Garbage Collection was added inFirefox 38 via
But the Free Memory (GC), (CC), and (Minimize memory usage) does jack.
I'll restart FF with the single tab and FF will be back down to ~ 100 MB. /sarcasm Yup, there is no memory leak! NOT.
> Now we're up to version 49.x and it's still doing it...
I'm not surprised. I got tired of the devs making the excuse that FF doesn't have a memory leak when it clearly does for a few people.
I really resisted Chrome until 2010 until I noticed that the memory leak was never going to be fixed. Chrome runs each tab in its process -- which is awesome. You can kill each tab individually to get memory back !
I really should switch to Chromium ...
I've had that _exact_ same problem since the FF 2.0 days!! Yes 2.0.
I eventually gave up and switched to Chrome. :-/
I never did figure out why FF was a RAM hog. I suspected it might be related to video playback and/or Flash related. Do you browse YouTube (or any other video sites) at all ?
How many tabs do you regularly have open? 10? 50? 100?
I wish FF wasn't such a PITA to compile out of the box. I wouldn't mind logging EVERY malloc() / new() call to see what the hell FF is doing.
Does anyone have any updates to these comparisons ?
Slack vs HipChat
http://slackvshipchat.com/
Slack vs Discord
https://www.slant.co/versus/45...
> or to start a class action lawsuit netting the victims of corporate sabotage a $15 discount voucher for their next HP product.
$15 !?
Usually the lawyers make millions and the people get a $0.10 refund.
Who said anything about salesman?? Oh wait, you keep bringing up non sequiturs.
You also keep assuming that the conclusions that the "BAS study" is true:
âoeAudibility of a CD-Standard A/DA/A Loop Inserted into High-Resolution Audio Playbackâ
http://www.aes.org/e-lib/brows...
The results are inclusive as these two people point out:
The BAS Study Revisited
http://www.realhd-audio.com/?p...
and
Conclusive "Proof" that higher resolution audio sounds different
http://www.whatsbestforum.com/...
Which are linked in this thread:
http://www.computeraudiophile....
Instead of criticizing others for your ignorance it would behoove you to spend some researching the topic instead of spouting dogma.
> Otherwise, 16-bit @ 44 kHz and 24-bit @ 192 kHz are indistinguishable by the human ear.
Maybe your ears, but not this person's.
http://www.whatsbestforum.com/...
> all economy runs down to energy.
^ THIS.
> society can get all of its energy needs without energy being built using big data infrastructure.
I'm not sure how you missed the fact that (Big) Data leads to Knowledge which leads to Power and Energy and ultimate Money.
That's why Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, etc. are all building huge data centers. They want a piece of the pie of influencing & controlling because ultimately it will bring profits.
Nailed it.
Mod parent +1 Insightful.
Awesome! Thanks for the update.
Are you able to post his email address so I can directly email him too ?
I'd rather not provide contact details on /. for obvious reasons (I guess I could make a throwaway reddit account if push comes to shove.)
> It certainly did not have an assembler in ROM, you had to type in Hex Opcodes.
Incorrect.
The Apple ][, //e (enhanced), and //c have a mini assembler in ROM.
On the Apple ][+ you could load in the Integer Basic into the Language card and use it.
That's what the monitor `!` command does -- it invokes the mini assembler @ F666 with the appropriate ROMs.
Woz even included the source code for it in the "Red Book"
https://www.scribd.com/documen...
I'll probably be down-modded for being snarky but just because you're "tone deaf" and can't tell the difference between 16-bit @ 44 KHz and 24-bit @ 192 KHz doesn't imply everyone else is.
I never mentioned the shenanigans of bullshit cables such as this one:
https://www.amazon.com/AudioQu...
But keep bringing up non sequiturs.
> So, wondering when the masses stopped caring at all about how the music sounded?
It started when CD's became popular and became cemented with the iPod.
16-bit @ 44 KHz was "good enough" for the average Joe.
Studios started making "hot" music with very little dynamic range in the 90's.
Ripping to 128 Kbps more so.
> I have the Khorns, hell, I have a whole Klipsch surround system
How do the Khorns sound compared to Tannoy's Horns or MartinLogan's Electrostatic speakers ?
--
"When I die I hope my wife sells my speakers for what they're worth rather than what I told her I paid for them."
I already read the link a few hours before it was posted. There was zero details on the algorithm and no link to the actual research that I could see.
*sigh*
Getting tired of "news" posting _zero_ details.
Does anyone have details on the actual algorithm? Reference Implementation?
Mod parent +1 Informative !
Thanks for link! That was awesome.
> Assembly language usually normally contains conveniences ...
Minor quibble. FTFY.
On the Apple 2 computers you can use the mini-assembler built into ROM -- which IS the raw assembly it generates.
The OP is ignorant of what assembly language even is.
Mod parent -1 incorrect.
> "Assembly" is not a programming language.
You keep using this phrase "not a programming language." It doesn't mean what you think it means. Methinks you need to review what a programming language IS because your definition is incomplete.
Your mistake is assuming "assembly language" refers to one canonical language. The truth is Assembly language refers to a family of languages.
As someone who still programs in 6502 assembly language (I work on an emulator in my spare time) then tell me my WHY does my Apple //e have a mini-assembler built into ROM if assembly is not a programming language??? The 6502 mnemonics are stored, compressed, in the ROM of ALL Apple 2 computers, along with a dis-assembler.
I could program in machine code (either decimal or hexadecimal):
I could use the mini-assembler:
Or I could use full canonical assembly
So yes, "Assembly" is a programming language. It comes in many flavors. There are even two flavors on x86: GCC assembly and Intel assembly.
--
Apostle Paul the Perverter, 1 Corinthians 11:14
You touched upon the very reasons why I like KeePass over OSX's keychain.
With KeePass I can use the same master password file across my Windows, OSX, and Linux computers.
Leave it to an AC to criticize without offering any solutions.
> Real programmers use IDEs with syntax checking.
No true Scotsman fallacy.
+1 for KeePas, and KeePassX (on OSX).
Remember one long pass phrase, never remember another password every again.
When are you going to grow up and realize yelling doesn't make your question any more valid?
See proof here:
https://slashdot.org/comments....