I hadn't noticed since I didn't even read the whole summary but yeah. It seem to suck.
Bla bla poor end all development and future growth of the economy.
Or understand that transportation is important for China. Also understand that they are growing and likely can get money from the markets (with Ben increasing M2 at a yearly rate of 10% these last 12 months there's plenty to go around..) so why not develop towards the future and future prosperity? I doubt they pay for it with taxes on the poor anyway.
It's not like people was rich here in Sweden in the 19th century. We built railways anyway - And it was good.
I do understand my system resources. Firefox do to. And Opera, Firefox and Chrome likely all use them differently. IE doesn't since it doesn't run on my machine. Well. Chrome more or less don't either, just occasionally.
I guess as long as it's the truth which is being sad that yeah, it suck to be the person feeling under threat, but that person isn't without guilt either so.
But the system is supposed to handle it and not the people.
"Yeah, so what if YouTube let you register with a user name before we bought it. We see you don't use a real name. WTF is up with that? Are you a criminal?
[x] My name is ___________________________ [ ] I'm a criminal."
I didn't mean that's what happened, I have no idea what they have reacted to or assume Google do, it was an example of what it could mean/they react to so to speak.
Rather seems like if (from the summary, I don't read articles..) say I search for smartphones Google may give me an Android hit rather than an iPhone hit first?
As in since most people use their search engine they can also make it so people choose their products because they get a better place.
(I search for mail and gmail shows up and so on.)
I can kinda get that point. But if they put their own hits in "recommended" (maybe not), sponsored or Google products bubbles separate from the other hits I think that should be ok.
I fetched some iso to/dev/null just because some US college kid had tried and failed like three times before and got shitty speeds (from his school?) and was just about to finish.
He had 15 seconds less so I decided it would be cool to finish before him. Sadly I had to cancel and change the url because he was downloading the CD image rather then the DVD image so I finished later =P
It felt rather wasteful when I tried whatever a download for me from the US mirror he used would actually fail to find out whatever the trouble was at his end or not (considering that passed the Atlantic to here in Sweden just to also be dumped to/dev/null for just checking whatever it would finish or not. Sunet among others host the images (it was a openSUSE image.)
Though I assume that if you threw in an order of a billion (oh well..) shares at 100 dollar higher than the current price of Apple maybe you'd get some from them.
It just take a simple look at the volume charts to see that the volume of the markets are falling and have been for a long time: http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX
Change to weekly.
Over here in Sweden we've got multiple exchanges and then I suppose one should get the numbers for all of them.
The reason they aren't banned is likely because it's not illegal:), or hard to prove what the intention was.
And you can be rather anonymous by trading through an insurrance.
Make it so an order can't be cancelled within the first hour and watch the change.
Also when these algoritms screw up they managed to get the trades cancelled. When a regular person is fooled by them and screw up.. Well. Good luck! (They are likely cancelled due to the effect they had at price and trades in general rather than compensation but it's still a safety network and protect the losses of the big players but the smaller ones just got to accept the fact.)
No, I wouldn't call it a trade unless no share change hands.
What you do is fill up the order depth with orders which look like someone is actually interested in doing them even though you are not.
That will trick people and algoritms which look at those orders and think they are genuine and decide to take action.
It won't trick people and algoritms which look at the actual price and volums at various prices.
Here in Sweden you aren't allowed to trade with yourself but atleast earlier I thought that I had read how you aren't allowed to put orders in you don't want to finish either. As in trying to trick others through the order depth as in this case. Now I'm not so sure longer. There's also market makers which make sure someone (them) are there for you to sell to and buy from but of course they want to earn something on those trades to, I can imagine there being some regulation for how they are allowed to act though.
It's rather easy to be fooled by the order depth if you sit there watching price, look at the order depth and then change the price of your order but if you decide that "I will buy Apple if it reach 650 dollar" and put in an order for that then it won't matter much (unless they trick a lot of other algoritms to follow suit a la flash crash that is:D)
If you went back to say daily trades where people put in orders during the day and then the system finished them at some price when the stock exchange closed (for real) I suppose this would had been trickier. Affecting actual trade data obviously force you to actually do the trade. And maybe they are less interested in say actually selling cheaper and cheaper to push price down rather than filling the sell order depth just to cancel the trades before they finish.
Imho to make up 4% of all order volume and never finish a trade is a rather obvious attempt to fool the market rather than actually do any trades.
Feel free to any knowledgable to fill in what rules and regulations exist and where.
Considering the Linux flash player won't be upgraded any more;)
Also as I remember it Firefox totally refused to use my plugin earlier claiming it was old with no way to turn it on so I don't see what's new really. Unless that message was a bug.
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I hadn't noticed since I didn't even read the whole summary but yeah. It seem to suck.
Bla bla poor end all development and future growth of the economy.
Or understand that transportation is important for China. Also understand that they are growing and likely can get money from the markets (with Ben increasing M2 at a yearly rate of 10% these last 12 months there's plenty to go around..) so why not develop towards the future and future prosperity? I doubt they pay for it with taxes on the poor anyway.
It's not like people was rich here in Sweden in the 19th century. We built railways anyway - And it was good.
On iOS the situation is better.
Anyway, what I really wanted to say is that they got a shitload of "run/converted through cider"-software to.
Yeah. You seem to know what you're talking about.
Not.
I do understand my system resources. Firefox do to. And Opera, Firefox and Chrome likely all use them differently. IE doesn't since it doesn't run on my machine. Well. Chrome more or less don't either, just occasionally.
I don't know about you but there's a bulldozer outside.
Cool story.
Yeah, the people, not the individual.
I guess as long as it's the truth which is being sad that yeah, it suck to be the person feeling under threat, but that person isn't without guilt either so.
But the system is supposed to handle it and not the people.
"Yeah, so what if YouTube let you register with a user name before we bought it. We see you don't use a real name. WTF is up with that? Are you a criminal?
[x] My name is ___________________________
[ ] I'm a criminal."
I didn't mean that's what happened, I have no idea what they have reacted to or assume Google do, it was an example of what it could mean/they react to so to speak.
Rather seems like if (from the summary, I don't read articles ..) say I search for smartphones Google may give me an Android hit rather than an iPhone hit first?
As in since most people use their search engine they can also make it so people choose their products because they get a better place.
(I search for mail and gmail shows up and so on.)
I can kinda get that point. But if they put their own hits in "recommended" (maybe not), sponsored or Google products bubbles separate from the other hits I think that should be ok.
And ass can be anyone and one can always claim being an ass is due to anything.
Peace?
I fetched some iso to /dev/null just because some US college kid had tried and failed like three times before and got shitty speeds (from his school?) and was just about to finish.
He had 15 seconds less so I decided it would be cool to finish before him. Sadly I had to cancel and change the url because he was downloading the CD image rather then the DVD image so I finished later =P
It felt rather wasteful when I tried whatever a download for me from the US mirror he used would actually fail to find out whatever the trouble was at his end or not (considering that passed the Atlantic to here in Sweden just to also be dumped to /dev/null for just checking whatever it would finish or not. Sunet among others host the images (it was a openSUSE image.)
It do a lot. It's just that there's other alternatives which do a similar thing for free.
What other software do you run which do more than Windows do? Just for comparision ..
Also macs cost more than the hardware cost to.
It's not liquidity if you can't trade with it.
Though I assume that if you threw in an order of a billion (oh well..) shares at 100 dollar higher than the current price of Apple maybe you'd get some from them.
It just take a simple look at the volume charts to see that the volume of the markets are falling and have been for a long time:
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX
Change to weekly.
Over here in Sweden we've got multiple exchanges and then I suppose one should get the numbers for all of them.
The reason they aren't banned is likely because it's not illegal :), or hard to prove what the intention was.
And you can be rather anonymous by trading through an insurrance.
Make it so an order can't be cancelled within the first hour and watch the change.
Also when these algoritms screw up they managed to get the trades cancelled. When a regular person is fooled by them and screw up.. Well. Good luck! (They are likely cancelled due to the effect they had at price and trades in general rather than compensation but it's still a safety network and protect the losses of the big players but the smaller ones just got to accept the fact.)
No, I wouldn't call it a trade unless no share change hands.
What you do is fill up the order depth with orders which look like someone is actually interested in doing them even though you are not.
That will trick people and algoritms which look at those orders and think they are genuine and decide to take action.
It won't trick people and algoritms which look at the actual price and volums at various prices.
Here in Sweden you aren't allowed to trade with yourself but atleast earlier I thought that I had read how you aren't allowed to put orders in you don't want to finish either. As in trying to trick others through the order depth as in this case. Now I'm not so sure longer. There's also market makers which make sure someone (them) are there for you to sell to and buy from but of course they want to earn something on those trades to, I can imagine there being some regulation for how they are allowed to act though.
It's rather easy to be fooled by the order depth if you sit there watching price, look at the order depth and then change the price of your order but if you decide that "I will buy Apple if it reach 650 dollar" and put in an order for that then it won't matter much (unless they trick a lot of other algoritms to follow suit a la flash crash that is :D)
If you went back to say daily trades where people put in orders during the day and then the system finished them at some price when the stock exchange closed (for real) I suppose this would had been trickier. Affecting actual trade data obviously force you to actually do the trade. And maybe they are less interested in say actually selling cheaper and cheaper to push price down rather than filling the sell order depth just to cancel the trades before they finish.
Imho to make up 4% of all order volume and never finish a trade is a rather obvious attempt to fool the market rather than actually do any trades.
Feel free to any knowledgable to fill in what rules and regulations exist and where.
Considering the Linux flash player won't be upgraded any more ;)
Also as I remember it Firefox totally refused to use my plugin earlier claiming it was old with no way to turn it on so I don't see what's new really. Unless that message was a bug.
So piss off yourself.
That was yesterdays thread.
chicken.
Even dropping my extra middle / later added last name I'm the only one in the world with my name.
And you can easily find both by googling my e-mail address :)
And it haven't stopped me from being a jerk.
Why did this make it to the front page with no editing?
"Die SchroedingerZ die!" ;D
Your argument is so silly since it's easy to damage your head if you drop it onto the asphalt and a helmet helps with that.
Also I would imagine the chances of being hit is bigger in city traffic than not and there speeds are also slower.
I would even assume that one common situation would be a car doing a turn over a bicycle lane and then speeds will be even lower.
One way is to ban cars instead of bicycling without a helmet.
I thought we didn't had them here?
Sounds like a US problem.
Doubt it would kill the web globally.
FUD ;)