But I'm not sure I can take it all in and understand everything (moc, delegates, slots,.. mean nothing to me:D)
I studied computer engineering but I have never worked so I haven't developed any skills at all:D
Anyway, I'm on a hackintosh now because my real mac suck (higher spec, still suck, thanks Apple), I won't buy an iPhone because it's locked in (and I'm no pro-developer who will earn any money anyway) and seriously everything Apple suck;)
Anyway, back in the Linux/FreeBSD/NetBSD days I liked KDE and I would probably do now to;), and Symbian^3 and more importantly MeeGo will use QT. So hence I feel like maybe I should learn to use it because a MeeGo phone is probably the most likely purchase (though open-source and replaceable / hackable firmware + alternative installation paths not using any DRM and/or store + free SDK and submits of applications would make it much more likely but will most likely never happen. But seriously, why spend 10 million in awards for the best app when you could just let everyone submit apps for free? What will give more results? Even better, let developers keep more of the profit and give away phones to successful ones / people you like to get even more developers.) And with QT I would be able to run on all desktop platforms as-well I assume. So pretty sweet.
If Nokia will screw their application store up just as they tend to screw everything else up as far as services goes maybe they should just let some other community handle package management and focus on doing phones themselves. They tend to be more successful in that area:)
But seriously how hard can it be to write a decent shop?
Nice that the time stamps on those articles are AFTER MY FUCKING POST.
I'm well aware of that, but it doesn't change anything.
I said it was likely they would use the OS for their phones. Your post if nothing else was sceptical on that point. RIM however wasn't, so they informed everyone they would.
But yeah, Flash is probably awesome too as far as platform support goes. I know Java isn't supposed to be inferior just because it's Java. But kinda everyone using products developed in it tend to feel it is. Maybe they are all wrong (or use an old JRE.) And seriously Oracles behavior doesn't help. Sun was cool, Oracle not so much.
"Apparently, the idea is to first launch BlackBerry OS 7, which will be sort-of a transitional release to prepare developers for the launch of the eventual QNX-based operating system."
So, time to STFU now? Plz k thnx.
(Also why the fuck would they had bought QNX if they didn't intend to use it.)
Also RIM _OWN_ QNX now-adays so I assume they will use it for their phones aswell.
Does anyone know if WeTab actually delivered with MeeGo? I can't find any information. It's supposed to run Android apps to.
Sadly there's still lots of ways to fuck up an open software device by locking down the hardware/OS installation and software management:(
Say if Nokia skipped their stupid attempts to become a service supplier (I do understand why they want to, but how well has it worked?) as focused on just bringing out the best phone for any price and for instance had an application store with no fees at all for the developer how long would it take until it was jam-packed with apps? Sure that lower the chance that it gets somewhat moderated but most Linux dists seems do well against viruses and whatever without no expensive fees. The software distribution could even be handled by some other group of people outside of the company.
Time will tell what happens. I guess that atleast it's possible to make something like Apples store for applications without screwing up to, but will it get the developers?
Instead of giving away 10 million $ in a contest what about let everyone submit applications for free?
He MUST learn Symbian 3! It'll definitely be THE OS to code for, of course, once Nokia actually ships a device with it and, well, it winds up taking over the smartphone market. Which it will.
Depends on how you see it. Will it be the shit among rich American teens who idolize Apple? No.
Does the Asian cheap smart-phone market got more potential as far as tapping huge numbers go? Guess so.
Though of course you may be able to sell more advanced phones there to. But MeeGo is Nokias OS in that category and not Symbian^3 so don't down-talk it too much.
Sadly for Nokia, and probably why Apple was late to the market and so on the market potential as far as profit goes is much lower in that part of the world for now.
Meanwhile maybe one shouldn't underestimate the advantage of having a very strong brand recognition in the area once they to can afford more expensive phones.
Slashdot Mirror
Nah you just ping the address you know and the machine behind that one still get borked.
Great.
I doubt OMGYOUCAN'TPINGME is the greatest benefit.
Exactly. Haven't we been running out of them for at least the last 10 years?
Awesome that no-one ever cared.
I can't see why anyone would now either.
Is it all thanks to Microsoft? Other network equipment? Embedded systems?
And then Apple will implement it and everyone will be like "WTF OMG APPLE LIKE TOTALLY INVENTED 3D!"
With price drops? Tens of millions.
Heh, awesome reply! =P
But I'm not sure I can take it all in and understand everything (moc, delegates, slots, .. mean nothing to me :D)
I studied computer engineering but I have never worked so I haven't developed any skills at all :D
Anyway, I'm on a hackintosh now because my real mac suck (higher spec, still suck, thanks Apple), I won't buy an iPhone because it's locked in (and I'm no pro-developer who will earn any money anyway) and seriously everything Apple suck ;)
Anyway, back in the Linux/FreeBSD/NetBSD days I liked KDE and I would probably do now to ;), and Symbian^3 and more importantly MeeGo will use QT. So hence I feel like maybe I should learn to use it because a MeeGo phone is probably the most likely purchase (though open-source and replaceable / hackable firmware + alternative installation paths not using any DRM and/or store + free SDK and submits of applications would make it much more likely but will most likely never happen. But seriously, why spend 10 million in awards for the best app when you could just let everyone submit apps for free? What will give more results? Even better, let developers keep more of the profit and give away phones to successful ones / people you like to get even more developers.)
And with QT I would be able to run on all desktop platforms as-well I assume. So pretty sweet.
If Nokia will screw their application store up just as they tend to screw everything else up as far as services goes maybe they should just let some other community handle package management and focus on doing phones themselves. They tend to be more successful in that area :)
But seriously how hard can it be to write a decent shop?
Nice that the time stamps on those articles are AFTER MY FUCKING POST.
I'm well aware of that, but it doesn't change anything.
I said it was likely they would use the OS for their phones. Your post if nothing else was sceptical on that point. RIM however wasn't, so they informed everyone they would.
Simple solution: Let Netcraft track application usage.
So what's wrong with QT?
http://qt.nokia.com/products/whats-new-in-qt
But yeah, Flash is probably awesome too as far as platform support goes.
I know Java isn't supposed to be inferior just because it's Java. But kinda everyone using products developed in it tend to feel it is. Maybe they are all wrong (or use an old JRE.) And seriously Oracles behavior doesn't help. Sun was cool, Oracle not so much.
psychiatric hospital
They are mac fan-boys after all ;)
But you claim correlation not causation? :D
This guy use his fart apps 3-4 times? Why?
Also why trash-talk fart apps and e-books as applications? The iPad and iPhone got plenty and look how well they sell! ;D
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1801216&cid=33740284
done.
You mean right after they came out with a new phone OS, they'll get rid of it?
That'll play well with developers.
"Apparently, the idea is to first launch BlackBerry OS 7, which will be sort-of a transitional release to prepare developers for the launch of the eventual QNX-based operating system."
So, time to STFU now? Plz k thnx.
(Also why the fuck would they had bought QNX if they didn't intend to use it.)
Is it worth bothering with?
As long as prices are decent some will pay, some won't, big deal. Don't develop for the phone if you can't accept whatever amount of money you get =P
Also: FFS remove any fees for a developer as far as getting an SDK and submitting an application goes.
While Symbian isn't perfect is there any reason Nokia E7 wouldn't be a good business phone?
Your network runs CDMA? How large part of the US use CDMA? Which carriers?
I don't get why Nokia couldn't release a CDMA phone if they don't have one already. What's stopping them? Will?
May fail in the battery and screen department (Guess it's not IPS?)
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1801216&cid=33717736
But in all other areas chances are it's better.
Display 11,6“, 1366 x 768 Pixels, Color, Touchscreen /Flash / Adobe AIR yes / yes / yes
Processor 1,66 GHz Intel Atom N450 Pineview-M
RAM 1 GB
Memory 16 / 32 GB, Extension with SDHC Card up to 32 GB possible
Java
Applications WeTab Meta-Store integrates multiple Stores, Support for native, Java, Linux, Adobe AIR® and Android Apps
Supported eBook formats ePub, PDF, TXT, Mobipocket, WeBook premium format at Q4/10
Battery up to 6 hours
Wireless Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR, Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n), optional 3G (UMTS/HSDPA)
http://wetab.mobi/en/product-details
Price from 449 euro. I don't know what the iPad cost, similar?
Gateway-Amiga pre Linux/AmigaDE/Tao-groups Elate idiotism was the days.
Plans of using QNX as base for a new Amiga OS. Good idea to scrap it. Not.
Sorry Jim Collas :(
As long as it's open OS doesn't matter.
Also RIM _OWN_ QNX now-adays so I assume they will use it for their phones aswell.
Does anyone know if WeTab actually delivered with MeeGo? I can't find any information. It's supposed to run Android apps to.
Sadly there's still lots of ways to fuck up an open software device by locking down the hardware/OS installation and software management :(
Say if Nokia skipped their stupid attempts to become a service supplier (I do understand why they want to, but how well has it worked?) as focused on just bringing out the best phone for any price and for instance had an application store with no fees at all for the developer how long would it take until it was jam-packed with apps? Sure that lower the chance that it gets somewhat moderated but most Linux dists seems do well against viruses and whatever without no expensive fees. The software distribution could even be handled by some other group of people outside of the company.
Time will tell what happens. I guess that atleast it's possible to make something like Apples store for applications without screwing up to, but will it get the developers?
Instead of giving away 10 million $ in a contest what about let everyone submit applications for free?
He MUST learn Symbian 3! It'll definitely be THE OS to code for, of course, once Nokia actually ships a device with it and, well, it winds up taking over the smartphone market. Which it will.
Depends on how you see it. Will it be the shit among rich American teens who idolize Apple? No.
Does the Asian cheap smart-phone market got more potential as far as tapping huge numbers go? Guess so.
Though of course you may be able to sell more advanced phones there to. But MeeGo is Nokias OS in that category and not Symbian^3 so don't down-talk it too much.
Sadly for Nokia, and probably why Apple was late to the market and so on the market potential as far as profit goes is much lower in that part of the world for now.
Meanwhile maybe one shouldn't underestimate the advantage of having a very strong brand recognition in the area once they to can afford more expensive phones.
Nokia is fucking slow.
http://qt.nokia.com/products/whats-new-in-qt
http://meego.com/about/licensing-policy
?
you should.
Good enough, didn't answer much of his questions as far as languages, communities, environments, market and so on though.
Also what about QT? 4.7 just came out:
http://qt.nokia.com/products/whats-new-in-qt/
CIA Special Operations Group and Special Activities Division are supposedly as good as Delta and SEAL Team Six
Ok, so still no match for SAS and SBS? ;)
Am I wrong? Please put some numbers up showing that I am...I'd really be pissed off if I'm right about that.
Well duh! What whould you had expected when they found _AN OCEAN OF OIL_?! :D
You do not shift your resources away from the dollar!
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/GD/W
Good luck have fun :)
http://www.ekonomifakta.se/sv/Fakta/Ekonomi/Tillvaxt/Sverige-i-valstandsligan/#
"GDP per capita, PPP corrected, Swedish krona"
http://www.ekonomifakta.se/en/
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sw.html
"Population below poverty line:
NA%"
Norway is a huge fucking exception. Their economy is doped by the oil.
Wonder if we could do the same with ~ 15% of the worlds uranium supplies. Better sell it while demand lasts? =P