Stop it. We aren't exploiting them, we are developing them.
They work in the sweatshops because they earn more money that way. Companies employ them in the sweatshops because they cost less money than some other people.
If you demand the same salaries for them they wouldn't get any jobs or companies in their area. And if they don't choose to work in the sweatshops but stay off in rural areas as farmers they will have to live on a lot less and be way poorer.
Countries in Asia or eastern Europe and such which get foreign industries develop, get richer and catch up.
Countries in Africa or other areas which don't get foreign investments stay poor.
Sure it "would be nice" if they got the same salaries and education and living conditions within a day but they won't. More companies and more productivity is a huge gain for them, not a disadvantage or issue.
... I think Swedish sold ethanol is usually from Brazil grown sugar canes or something such to so in that case that's just as stupid.
Lots of countries burn coal and oil for energy, I'm all for using it for transportation instead since it will be used anyhow and it's way less efficient as is to convert some other sort of energy to something transportable. So better create energy for other areas than transportation by other means and save the fossile fuels and other solid fuel sources for areas where you need to be able to refuel quickly.
We still pick our crops, ship them somewhere else and fertilize with only nitrogen, phosphor and potassium so..:D
Probably have less trees to and where we have them (hey I live in Sweden we've got plenty of trees...) the forests are still not as pristine and usually it end up being all spruce..
I assume that will remove other minerals and nutrients from the soil over the time and I don't really get why it's done because I assume one would want to keep the soil as nutrient dense as possible. But whatever..
The really retarded though is consuming beef and palm oil products from Brazil and sea food at large.
Not possible. On my mac they always used 100% processor power anyway.
Hurray for Apples fast reaction and ability to listen to developers needs... (In this case eventually related to such stupidities as flash on OS X (eventually fixed now if you got the latest versions of both the software and hardware) not decoding H.264 on the GPU.)
This will be moderated troll even if true. And even if it happens time and time over again, like for instance then (cached) Valve commented on gaming on macs (http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/10/03/valve.apple.isnt.serious/) or then everyone expected to be able to develop applications for the iPhone just to be told that they couldn't, which eventually they fixed and we all know what a huge success it has become. But it was obvious it was a good idea and should had been there since day one. Do you remember the days? I tried google it but I'm too lazy to link anything more than this link about how there was no possibilities for developing third-party apps then but that they had plans to develop in that area.
Meanwhile over here in Sweden our government is usually run by the Socialdemokraterna / social democracy, but atm it's not. The current alliance is pro lower taxes, government involvement/ran companies and well-fare.
Anyway in a pamphlet from the Socialdemokraterna on a local level they where asking for ideas of what could be improved/built in the local neighborhood because their idea in solving unemployment where to employ people in municipal/communal projects. Which imho read something like: "We need to make society more equal by taxing high-income population wasting the money on useless unproductive let's-do-this-to-keep-people-employed-and-occupied-projects"
Why waste money on such crap? The last couple of years they have rebuilt all the town squares and major streets within the city filling them up with pavement stones, swapping out trees and such. For what purpose? There wasn't anything really wrong with the old stuff, and the fucking pavement stones everywhere suck balls. Nasty to ride a bike on, impossible to ride inlines on, suck for people in wheel-chairs or on crutches I assume. But no, it's so nostalgic and beautiful and shouldn't everyone just stroll around anyway?
Even if I may not agree with the current leaders in all cases at-least they probably spend less money on CRAP (too keep taxes lower for their voters..)
Who cares, they aren't worth buying longer anyway...
Related: I actually burned a HP-branded CMC MAG. AE1-disc on my Pioneer DVR-112D two or three days ago. Got a bunch of quality disks (three kinds of Taiyo-Yuden and verbatim MCC004s) and this + three other discs which most likely isn't of the same quality but was known for their easy readability plus that burner and a Lite-On DH20A1P. Anyway, the reason was that I wanted to figure out if the Gamecube could read anything except Ritek G04 and G05 which was supposed to be the only discs which worked according to common Internet knowledge, but those discs are shit and highly vulnerable by data rot.
Anyway, the disc worked, perfectly!
But the thing is that I knew I bought all those items a long time ago so I searched my Gmail account for SVP yesterday and found out that it was exactly three years since I made the order.
And this was the first time I actually burned a disc for my Gamecube using them... (Got the Lite-On to be able to do quality checks of old discs and the Pioneer for high quality burns and good discs because, well, I have no need for crappy discs.. But the quality checks required Windows, my PC ran an OS X-hack and still does and I got myself a Macbook Pro.. The burner on the MBP sucked arse so.. No disc burnt.)
Anyway, very stupid purchase and now very few people around the Internet would be interested in my results of scans of those discs + whatever they are readable by a reader as picky as the Gamecube or not.
Heck, I haven't even unlocked all the capabilities of the drives by installing custom/different/hacked firmwares.
Anyway, three years since my last DVD and burner purchase, prices are still more or less the same it seems, less discs around now I assume, I still got hundreds of discs and the format is pretty dead.
Use hard-drives.. It was somewhat established that hard-drives made better backup units back then vs optical discs, and it's definitely now.
(8x DVD-R Taiyo-Yuden TYG02 16x DVD-R Taiyo-Yuden TYG03 8x DVD+R Taiyo-Yuden YUDENT002 16x DVD+R Taiyo-Yuden YUDENT003 16x DVD+R Verbatim MCC 004 16x DVD-R Infiniti MCC 03ORG (Verbatim sell these to.) 8x DVD-R HP CMC MAG. AE1 8x DVD+R Datasafe CMC MAG E01 16x DVD+R Intenso OPTODISCR16)... doubt there's even enough good games for the Gamecube to make one burn on each disc valued..
This sort of thing falls squarely in the realm of "ecological services" provided by the various natural systems we humans are busily degrading or outright destroying.
"Don't you worry: It's gonna be alright!" / David Hasselhoff running by in slow-motion.
It's always so fun with all the Americans on Slashdot speaking about how much oil/coal/energy they use in China without understanding that it's consumption of items/services which drives demand/resource usage and not actual production / out of nothing.
There's no fucking way the Chinese PEOPLE consume more resources or generate more waste than their American counterparts. Not per individual and I would be very surprised if they even did it on country level.
It's not the Chinese people who pollute / use up all resources / whatever... it's the consumers of the products produced under those conditions.
China builds items for more or less everyone, including the US.
If we talk electricity or heat generation in general I'm sure they build out their infrastructure and capabilities to produce more and cleaner energy in whatever way possible. Give them 10-20 years..
No, I'm assuming that will be enormously expensive when all pieces of equipment used to transport and construct new infrastructure use oil as their primary fuel source, and that for every calorie of food consumed in the US, 3500 calories of petroleum are expended to produce, harvest, transport, and process it. In 1970 the ratio was 1 to 1.
I have no idea but you're sure it's not 3500 calories / 1 KILOcalorie of food?
As in a 3.5:1 ratio?
Sound weird that the energy consumption for producing food would had raised 3500 times but what do I know.
kcal = kilo-calorie, not calorie. Some packages may type things like "only 1 cal per serving" maybe, or at least people speak like that, but mean 1 kilo-calorie.
And, given the choice between "unimpressive performance" and "living to see your children grow up," it's amazing people continue to be so shortsighted. Investment in vehicle safety could save far more lives than the war on terror.
Was your point that you'd prefer the safer more performing car such as a bigger one or the weaker and less safe one because the risk of dying in a car accident was still "so small"?
Or was the "and" supposed to be an and between the alternatives such in that you can't understand why people don't choose fuel efficient AND safe cars?
It may sound stupid but I could read it like the meaning was that people shouldn't focus on MPG so much but still pick the SUV or whatever because it's safer for them.. Doubt it, but possible.
My thoughts exactly, came in here to post: "Time to buy some Microsoft stock then"
Surely Apple make money of their (not trolling here even though it may look like that) over-priced hardware, and also got some software titles beyond OS X. But Microsoft isn't all about Windows either and their market influence and brand-knowledge / weight on the market should still weight higher, or at least so I'd assume.
The phone and tablet business I see as fast growing markets where one product or company may be great one year just to slack 2-3 years later. Sure market value may reflect the current status but yeah.. One great phone right now don't make it the best phones forever.
And the greatest phones would had been HTCs anyway;D
Their computers are just like any other computers. So nothing special with them except the price..
Make me wonder what the value is of Apples non-OS X software business though, compared to Microsoft. Anyone got any values? How many products have each? How much do they sell for and how big are the profits?
Office may have lost some of its perceived value compared to the free options but it's still what's used and sold so I doubt it have affected sales much.
(I don't wanna answer to the iTard above but damn the first useful post was low.)
Anyway, it's not a problem, or well, shouldn't be a problem.
The phone should be open, simple as that. I should be able to install the latest version of my phone, which would require that: a) The phone manufacturers submitted patches/drivers back to Google. b) I was allowed to install whatever firmware on my phone.
If the companies manufacturing the phone is too retarded for that then atleast they should build the firmware themselves and let me download it.
A new version isn't a disadvantage, it's an advantage, and I want it on my phone.
Let the Apple consumers be alone replacing their whole headset for every minor software upgrade.
We joined the EU and now we can't decide anything of our own.
Also with people letting people like Thomas Bodström be part of the government we're screwed. But he'seye candy! Never mind he decides to not show up for this government duties because he'd rather earn some extra cash doing his second job as a lawyer.
But it seem pretty common that our elected decide that they got something more interesting to do rather than showing up in the parliament.
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And what about manbearpig?
Is it just one specie? Or does it count like three? Or maybe not at all since it's not for real?
If one don't like it there's always the option to do something on your own ..
Stop it. We aren't exploiting them, we are developing them.
They work in the sweatshops because they earn more money that way. Companies employ them in the sweatshops because they cost less money than some other people.
If you demand the same salaries for them they wouldn't get any jobs or companies in their area. And if they don't choose to work in the sweatshops but stay off in rural areas as farmers they will have to live on a lot less and be way poorer.
Countries in Asia or eastern Europe and such which get foreign industries develop, get richer and catch up.
Countries in Africa or other areas which don't get foreign investments stay poor.
Sure it "would be nice" if they got the same salaries and education and living conditions within a day but they won't. More companies and more productivity is a huge gain for them, not a disadvantage or issue.
... I think Swedish sold ethanol is usually from Brazil grown sugar canes or something such to so in that case that's just as stupid.
Lots of countries burn coal and oil for energy, I'm all for using it for transportation instead since it will be used anyhow and it's way less efficient as is to convert some other sort of energy to something transportable. So better create energy for other areas than transportation by other means and save the fossile fuels and other solid fuel sources for areas where you need to be able to refuel quickly.
We still pick our crops, ship them somewhere else and fertilize with only nitrogen, phosphor and potassium so .. :D
Probably have less trees to and where we have them (hey I live in Sweden we've got plenty of trees...) the forests are still not as pristine and usually it end up being all spruce ..
I assume that will remove other minerals and nutrients from the soil over the time and I don't really get why it's done because I assume one would want to keep the soil as nutrient dense as possible. But whatever ..
The really retarded though is consuming beef and palm oil products from Brazil and sea food at large.
Gamers won't use it.
Times I've used a webcam or mic on flash: 0
Not possible. On my mac they always used 100% processor power anyway.
Hurray for Apples fast reaction and ability to listen to developers needs... (In this case eventually related to such stupidities as flash on OS X (eventually fixed now if you got the latest versions of both the software and hardware) not decoding H.264 on the GPU.)
This will be moderated troll even if true. And even if it happens time and time over again, like for instance then (cached) Valve commented on gaming on macs (http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/10/03/valve.apple.isnt.serious/) or then everyone expected to be able to develop applications for the iPhone just to be told that they couldn't, which eventually they fixed and we all know what a huge success it has become. But it was obvious it was a good idea and should had been there since day one. Do you remember the days? I tried google it but I'm too lazy to link anything more than this link about how there was no possibilities for developing third-party apps then but that they had plans to develop in that area.
Meanwhile over here in Sweden our government is usually run by the Socialdemokraterna / social democracy, but atm it's not. The current alliance is pro lower taxes, government involvement/ran companies and well-fare.
Anyway in a pamphlet from the Socialdemokraterna on a local level they where asking for ideas of what could be improved/built in the local neighborhood because their idea in solving unemployment where to employ people in municipal/communal projects. Which imho read something like:
"We need to make society more equal by taxing high-income population wasting the money on useless unproductive let's-do-this-to-keep-people-employed-and-occupied-projects"
Why waste money on such crap? The last couple of years they have rebuilt all the town squares and major streets within the city filling them up with pavement stones, swapping out trees and such. For what purpose? There wasn't anything really wrong with the old stuff, and the fucking pavement stones everywhere suck balls. Nasty to ride a bike on, impossible to ride inlines on, suck for people in wheel-chairs or on crutches I assume. But no, it's so nostalgic and beautiful and shouldn't everyone just stroll around anyway?
Even if I may not agree with the current leaders in all cases at-least they probably spend less money on CRAP (too keep taxes lower for their voters ..)
Who cares, they aren't worth buying longer anyway...
Related:
I actually burned a HP-branded CMC MAG. AE1-disc on my Pioneer DVR-112D two or three days ago. Got a bunch of quality disks (three kinds of Taiyo-Yuden and verbatim MCC004s) and this + three other discs which most likely isn't of the same quality but was known for their easy readability plus that burner and a Lite-On DH20A1P. Anyway, the reason was that I wanted to figure out if the Gamecube could read anything except Ritek G04 and G05 which was supposed to be the only discs which worked according to common Internet knowledge, but those discs are shit and highly vulnerable by data rot.
Anyway, the disc worked, perfectly!
But the thing is that I knew I bought all those items a long time ago so I searched my Gmail account for SVP yesterday and found out that it was exactly three years since I made the order.
And this was the first time I actually burned a disc for my Gamecube using them ... (Got the Lite-On to be able to do quality checks of old discs and the Pioneer for high quality burns and good discs because, well, I have no need for crappy discs .. But the quality checks required Windows, my PC ran an OS X-hack and still does and I got myself a Macbook Pro.. The burner on the MBP sucked arse so .. No disc burnt.)
Anyway, very stupid purchase and now very few people around the Internet would be interested in my results of scans of those discs + whatever they are readable by a reader as picky as the Gamecube or not.
Heck, I haven't even unlocked all the capabilities of the drives by installing custom/different/hacked firmwares.
Anyway, three years since my last DVD and burner purchase, prices are still more or less the same it seems, less discs around now I assume, I still got hundreds of discs and the format is pretty dead.
Use hard-drives .. It was somewhat established that hard-drives made better backup units back then vs optical discs, and it's definitely now.
(8x DVD-R Taiyo-Yuden TYG02 ... doubt there's even enough good games for the Gamecube to make one burn on each disc valued..
16x DVD-R Taiyo-Yuden TYG03
8x DVD+R Taiyo-Yuden YUDENT002
16x DVD+R Taiyo-Yuden YUDENT003
16x DVD+R Verbatim MCC 004
16x DVD-R Infiniti MCC 03ORG (Verbatim sell these to.)
8x DVD-R HP CMC MAG. AE1
8x DVD+R Datasafe CMC MAG E01
16x DVD+R Intenso OPTODISCR16)
This sort of thing falls squarely in the realm of "ecological services" provided by the various natural systems we humans are busily degrading or outright destroying.
"Don't you worry: It's gonna be alright!"
/ David Hasselhoff running by in slow-motion.
What I wonder is:
Back in the days it seems like they could build cars affordable by everyone, build roads everywhere, electricity, rail-roads, and so on.
Nowadays building a short strip of rail-road cost insane amounts of money, sure one can still do it but it has quite an impact.
What happened? Or do I just understand it wrong and everything cost a hell of a lot back then to but people did it because it was needed?
So why not more rail-roads, rails instead of roads and fiber for everyone?
Maybe they have bought those run you car on water construction plans from Youtube.
It's always so fun with all the Americans on Slashdot speaking about how much oil/coal/energy they use in China without understanding that it's consumption of items/services which drives demand/resource usage and not actual production / out of nothing.
There's no fucking way the Chinese PEOPLE consume more resources or generate more waste than their American counterparts. Not per individual and I would be very surprised if they even did it on country level.
It's not the Chinese people who pollute / use up all resources / whatever ... it's the consumers of the products produced under those conditions.
China builds items for more or less everyone, including the US.
If we talk electricity or heat generation in general I'm sure they build out their infrastructure and capabilities to produce more and cleaner energy in whatever way possible. Give them 10-20 years ..
No, I'm assuming that will be enormously expensive when all pieces of equipment used to transport and construct new infrastructure use oil as their primary fuel source, and that for every calorie of food consumed in the US, 3500 calories of petroleum are expended to produce, harvest, transport, and process it. In 1970 the ratio was 1 to 1.
I have no idea but you're sure it's not 3500 calories / 1 KILOcalorie of food?
As in a 3.5:1 ratio?
Sound weird that the energy consumption for producing food would had raised 3500 times but what do I know.
kcal = kilo-calorie, not calorie. Some packages may type things like "only 1 cal per serving" maybe, or at least people speak like that, but mean 1 kilo-calorie.
And, given the choice between "unimpressive performance" and "living to see your children grow up," it's amazing people continue to be so shortsighted. Investment in vehicle safety could save far more lives than the war on terror.
Was your point that you'd prefer the safer more performing car such as a bigger one or the weaker and less safe one because the risk of dying in a car accident was still "so small"?
Or was the "and" supposed to be an and between the alternatives such in that you can't understand why people don't choose fuel efficient AND safe cars?
It may sound stupid but I could read it like the meaning was that people shouldn't focus on MPG so much but still pick the SUV or whatever because it's safer for them .. Doubt it, but possible.
the mother of all flame wars.
No, who cares for the second place? We still know Amiga rules!
My thoughts exactly, came in here to post:
"Time to buy some Microsoft stock then"
Surely Apple make money of their (not trolling here even though it may look like that) over-priced hardware, and also got some software titles beyond OS X. But Microsoft isn't all about Windows either and their market influence and brand-knowledge / weight on the market should still weight higher, or at least so I'd assume.
The phone and tablet business I see as fast growing markets where one product or company may be great one year just to slack 2-3 years later. Sure market value may reflect the current status but yeah.. One great phone right now don't make it the best phones forever.
And the greatest phones would had been HTCs anyway ;D
Their computers are just like any other computers. So nothing special with them except the price ..
Make me wonder what the value is of Apples non-OS X software business though, compared to Microsoft. Anyone got any values? How many products have each? How much do they sell for and how big are the profits?
Office may have lost some of its perceived value compared to the free options but it's still what's used and sold so I doubt it have affected sales much.
I won't be buying an Android phone until they let me myself upgrade the OS with the latest or a modified version at my will.
(I don't wanna answer to the iTard above but damn the first useful post was low.)
Anyway, it's not a problem, or well, shouldn't be a problem.
The phone should be open, simple as that. I should be able to install the latest version of my phone, which would require that:
a) The phone manufacturers submitted patches/drivers back to Google.
b) I was allowed to install whatever firmware on my phone.
If the companies manufacturing the phone is too retarded for that then atleast they should build the firmware themselves and let me download it.
A new version isn't a disadvantage, it's an advantage, and I want it on my phone.
Let the Apple consumers be alone replacing their whole headset for every minor software upgrade.
We joined the EU and now we can't decide anything of our own.
Also with people letting people like Thomas Bodström be part of the government we're screwed. But he's eye candy! Never mind he decides to not show up for this government duties because he'd rather earn some extra cash doing his second job as a lawyer.
But it seem pretty common that our elected decide that they got something more interesting to do rather than showing up in the parliament.
Atleast earlier they used the same IPs for the openbittorrent and thepiratebay trackers ...
But yeah, totally different organisation ;)
I guess that's why they ask who's behind it, just to get it black on white that it's the same people.
They also get their ass kicked if they don't have working copyright laws.
real crimes>/quote>.. :D
The problem is that copyright infringement is seen as a crime at all. Naughty behavior maybe ;)
There's your problem, right there.
... on the other hand our sentences isn't decided on who's got the most money.