People did it because all software was made for PPC and little was rewritten as universal binaries and therefor would run thru emulation at a much slower speed on the Intel machines.
So people who needed speed and used their macs NOW got a better deal with a PPC machine.
Things like Photoshop for instance would run faster on the G5 than a Core Duo.
And no, they don't "just keep working", there isn't anything magical with a mac, it's the same fucking kind of hardware, shitty quality control, denial and poor execution of putting it all together (see thermal grease pictures.)
I have a 2.2 GHz C2D, 2GB ram, 8600m GT 128 MB MBP, it don't run like a champ.
Mac users world view is screwed up.
eBay doesn't intrest me since noone sell to Sweden anyway and the best prices is in the USA. I have no idea if people actually PAY $1,000 or if that is the asking price. Only an idiot would buy for that price, but mac people don't know much about hardware so..
I knew two people with some Acer Athlon64 (X2s?) ones and wasn't that impressed, but I'm not impressed with my Macbook Pro either. Give me a GOOD QUALITY HIGH RES DISPLAY and a low power/temp CPU + dedicated graphics.
No, if I did I would never comment in mac / OS X stories because even if I really wanted to get the OS earlier and dislike Windows for no obvious reason nowadays since the DOS/Win3.11 days when I used my Amiga I do say what I belive and don't care about the retarded moderators. But then when it comes to mac stories some people just can't handle the truth so they always mod me troll/flamebait/overrated/... but whatever. I've got karma to burn, in other threads I may get a better score (though many of my coments is spam..)
Well, same technique which Novell and SUN uses... And see how well they are doing!:D Why improve your product than you can mention how bad the other one is instead!?! Lies, damn lies and in Apples and Suns case lying statistics/charts is the shit!
So what if your G4 iMac don't have any games? So what if it has an inferior CPU to a PC? Just make a gaming benchmark on one of the very few games which actually work with your new graphic card compared to a PC desktop with a completely different even more low-end card, voila!! G4 excellence in games!!:D
Much better than listen to game developers, put in decent hardware for gaming and release more mainstream and upgradable machines.
Same with SUN, I read some MySQL benchmark of theirs comparing their Niagra line of CPUs with Opteron, after three days of tweaking they got better performance, but the Opteron beat it to death in the begining... So like, ok, you can get the Niagara, get shitty performance and pay someone skillable enough for three days to tweak the DB and finally get slightly better performance after having submitted a patch to the database code... Or well, be done with it and don't use a SUN machine.
Funny how they use that as an example of how much they ruled when all I could see was how piss poor it was until they had worked a hell of a lot to get it up to decent speeds.
They updated the whole line (except keeping an old Macbook for some weird reason), so no. Line updates don't count, and the old one was probably 7 months old before this update, it's usually 200+ days, look at macrumors buyers guide.
Avira (free versions available, founds lots of viruses), Kaspersky (cost money, former champion) and NOD32 (also cost money, been popular for ages, probably always a decent alternative.)
So don't use Norton or McAfee then. What's wrong with Avira which is free? Or Kaspersky or Nod32?
I have both Firefox and Opera to, but whatever browser I start up it will load up 100+ tabs, and sometimes I clean them out, most so in Safari since it's slow as shit with lots of tabs. But then I want a browser without all that loading I just take the one with least tabs / which I used latest, which often become Safari, and well, back to square one.
My firefox have over 500 tabs, so there..
Also since I own a mac sometimes I use an application, such as "toast" to burn a DVD or similar, and once I used the disc info, there was this button for more info, so I clicked it, not realising it would open up Safari and show a webpage. For some retarded reason OS X don't inform you that the action will result in your browser starting...
Which reflects my view of the situation perfectly aswell.
Or well, atleast with student/adc discount, at normal price they are still more expensive but the OS, software and design may actually be worth it at release date.
Sells out? Yeah right, like they sit there saying "Omg, we could have sold one million more macbooks, oh well, what the fuck, we won't make more than 2 million anyway!"
Source please... I know they may sell out the first week or so, but then what?
The only thing Apple update to the latest version of is new CPU generations/chipsets, so no... And most often it doesn't matter. For instance it's not like the faster FSB speed of the new Intel chips makes a huge impact.
My Macbook Pro has three ways to use the right mouse button, and my Razer DeathAdder works as well, what's your point really?
I'd wish Apple would use more context menues though, but then once again one can hardly argue that anyone else have thought their UI over more than Apple so...
With Dell, atleast over here, you either get some extra ram or similar, lower price in whatever currency, or lower price in percentages. But in the end sure it will end up to be around the same price "before" whatever "rabate" you get.
But I have never seen 40% on laptops, I've seen monitors with like 40% off, lots of SEK off, or real price which is waaay to expensive considering how often you can get a better price. For laptops I most often see extra ram and slightly lower price, or no extra ram and more lower price, or something like that, but no huge savings and they are still higher priced than the competition.
There is no good standard for measuring battery life so that comparision is totally useless, which is probably why Dell don't bother to mention it at all.
If anything compare it while doing the stuff you will want to do on all of them.
I have NEVER had 5.5-6 hours of battery life on my Macbook Pro, completely idle 3-3.5 or something when it was new maybe, with browser 1 hour because Flash on OS X sucks balls. And now with the browser I probably get like 5-10 minutes because the battery have lost capacity, or the machine fails for some other reason, what do I know.
Macs don't have a microphone input instead, that is a much bigger problem for me. And the optical is mini-tos so "no" cables fit it. And some of the other machins probably do have optical and/or spdif. Useless for anyone who won't use it anyway.
And I'm sure some of the PCs had firewire which the Macbook doesn't have now, did he mention anything about that?
He probably skipped webcam because it would be subjective. And the Macbook Pro one I have is fairly good, and it supports 1.3 mpx even though the software / drivers only use 0.3 mpx.
The Apple touchpads rule.
Fingerprint scanner? I couldn't care less either.
iLife = iWeb, iPhoto, iDVD, iMovie and Garageband. iWeb sucks the hardest, my cat could write better code. iPhoto suck. iDVD may be useful if you want to make a DVD of your video clips with their themes, but meh, not very useful. iMovie is so simplified now that it's not very fun, easy to throw together/cut clips though. Garageband is supposed to be good but is useless unless you make music.
Thin laptop is nice, but my Macbook Pro is 1" and becomes hot as hell, that is 70-80 degrees celsius hot at default settings. I'd much rather take even 0.5" extra if that would mean better cooling possibilities.
The environmental stuff is probably simply because Greenpeace rated them worst earlier so they did a bunch of improvements to get rated higher. I don't care, we fuck up the environment anyway, and most things can probably be recycled anyway.
And yes, I'd much rather pay less than half the price for a similar PC, or similar price for a gaming capable PC. (No, no gamer would get a 9400m machine.)
So people will think it's an extra good purchase right now and think they have to hurry up and buy now and feel happy with their purchase because they got "such a good price"? Quite obvious isn't it?
The question is why Apple don't offer anything on 7 month old laptops.
So don't install Vista. I call bullshit on anti-virus slowing down the machine a lot. I have a Macbook Pro and I'm never amazed by the speed, rather the lack of speed. Though I'm used to having desktops with bigger and faster HDDs.
Safari is the software which really craps on my experience. And the fact that I still haven't bought more memory yet since I wanted to send this one back.
Here in Sweden I'd say Dell actually is expensive, very much so, but configurable. Sure they offer some extras every now and then but they still end up expensive. ASUS is rather expensive to but prices can be ok. Sony probably slightly above Dell. HP and Lenovo are cheap and well worth it, Acer offers most for the money but I'm affraid you get what you pay for in their case.
If one only looks at specs the Macbook cost twice as much as a similar machine. You can get a Lenovo 15.4" with similair specs and X3100 instead for around 4500 sek, the Macbook is 12000 sek, go figure.
Sure mac fanatics will always try to find a perfect match for whatever the mac is, not the best buy, best configuration or whatever is cheapest with similar spec and performance. And since that limit their options for say quad xeons, fb-dimms and bullshit like that in the case of the mac pro it fucks up the price.
Yesterday I read an article about gaming performance on the new Macbook Pros and there was an HP with similar graphics which was a little slower for some reason. HDX 16 T or something like that. The price of that one is only 1000 dollars at base configurations but it still has a 9600m GT 512 MB, 1368x8xx something screen and could be had with 1920x1080 and so on. Awesome purchase for that amount of money, and half the price of a similar Macbook Pro.
Sure the quality of the case, innovative touchpad and small things like that gives the macs small advantages, but in the end of the day specs and what you can do with it is what matters. Or well, atleast for me as a geek/nerd and not as a designer who only cares about the looks.
I hate all these lame comparisions, macs is expensive, and much more expensive in Sweden. End of story. There is no reason to try to claim that's not the case, just accept it.
(And to the mac fanatics who belives different, just look at the profit margins if nothing else, try to claim that you get a good price / what it's worth / whatever when you look at how much higher Apples profit margins probably is to everyone elses.)
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People did it because all software was made for PPC and little was rewritten as universal binaries and therefor would run thru emulation at a much slower speed on the Intel machines.
So people who needed speed and used their macs NOW got a better deal with a PPC machine.
Things like Photoshop for instance would run faster on the G5 than a Core Duo.
I have a mac.
And no, they don't "just keep working", there isn't anything magical with a mac, it's the same fucking kind of hardware, shitty quality control, denial and poor execution of putting it all together (see thermal grease pictures.)
I have a 2.2 GHz C2D, 2GB ram, 8600m GT 128 MB MBP, it don't run like a champ.
Mac users world view is screwed up.
eBay doesn't intrest me since noone sell to Sweden anyway and the best prices is in the USA. I have no idea if people actually PAY $1,000 or if that is the asking price. Only an idiot would buy for that price, but mac people don't know much about hardware so ..
I knew two people with some Acer Athlon64 (X2s?) ones and wasn't that impressed, but I'm not impressed with my Macbook Pro either. Give me a GOOD QUALITY HIGH RES DISPLAY and a low power/temp CPU + dedicated graphics.
No, if I did I would never comment in mac / OS X stories because even if I really wanted to get the OS earlier and dislike Windows for no obvious reason nowadays since the DOS/Win3.11 days when I used my Amiga I do say what I belive and don't care about the retarded moderators. But then when it comes to mac stories some people just can't handle the truth so they always mod me troll/flamebait/overrated/... but whatever. I've got karma to burn, in other threads I may get a better score (though many of my coments is spam ..)
Well, same technique which Novell and SUN uses... And see how well they are doing! :D
Why improve your product than you can mention how bad the other one is instead!?! Lies, damn lies and in Apples and Suns case lying statistics/charts is the shit!
So what if your G4 iMac don't have any games? So what if it has an inferior CPU to a PC? Just make a gaming benchmark on one of the very few games which actually work with your new graphic card compared to a PC desktop with a completely different even more low-end card, voila!! G4 excellence in games!! :D
Much better than listen to game developers, put in decent hardware for gaming and release more mainstream and upgradable machines.
Same with SUN, I read some MySQL benchmark of theirs comparing their Niagra line of CPUs with Opteron, after three days of tweaking they got better performance, but the Opteron beat it to death in the begining... So like, ok, you can get the Niagara, get shitty performance and pay someone skillable enough for three days to tweak the DB and finally get slightly better performance after having submitted a patch to the database code... Or well, be done with it and don't use a SUN machine.
Funny how they use that as an example of how much they ruled when all I could see was how piss poor it was until they had worked a hell of a lot to get it up to decent speeds.
They updated the whole line (except keeping an old Macbook for some weird reason), so no. Line updates don't count, and the old one was probably 7 months old before this update, it's usually 200+ days, look at macrumors buyers guide.
Avira (free versions available, founds lots of viruses), Kaspersky (cost money, former champion) and NOD32 (also cost money, been popular for ages, probably always a decent alternative.)
So don't use Norton or McAfee then. What's wrong with Avira which is free? Or Kaspersky or Nod32?
I have both Firefox and Opera to, but whatever browser I start up it will load up 100+ tabs, and sometimes I clean them out, most so in Safari since it's slow as shit with lots of tabs. But then I want a browser without all that loading I just take the one with least tabs / which I used latest, which often become Safari, and well, back to square one.
My firefox have over 500 tabs, so there ..
Also since I own a mac sometimes I use an application, such as "toast" to burn a DVD or similar, and once I used the disc info, there was this button for more info, so I clicked it, not realising it would open up Safari and show a webpage. For some retarded reason OS X don't inform you that the action will result in your browser starting ...
Which reflects my view of the situation perfectly aswell.
Or well, atleast with student/adc discount, at normal price they are still more expensive but the OS, software and design may actually be worth it at release date.
Sells out? Yeah right, like they sit there saying "Omg, we could have sold one million more macbooks, oh well, what the fuck, we won't make more than 2 million anyway!"
Source please ... I know they may sell out the first week or so, but then what?
The only thing Apple update to the latest version of is new CPU generations/chipsets, so no... And most often it doesn't matter. For instance it's not like the faster FSB speed of the new Intel chips makes a huge impact.
And your issue with Quicktime UI is?
My Macbook Pro has three ways to use the right mouse button, and my Razer DeathAdder works as well, what's your point really?
I'd wish Apple would use more context menues though, but then once again one can hardly argue that anyone else have thought their UI over more than Apple so...
But so many people don't give a shit and just want to have a good machine worth the money which can run OS X.
With Dell, atleast over here, you either get some extra ram or similar, lower price in whatever currency, or lower price in percentages. But in the end sure it will end up to be around the same price "before" whatever "rabate" you get.
But I have never seen 40% on laptops, I've seen monitors with like 40% off, lots of SEK off, or real price which is waaay to expensive considering how often you can get a better price. For laptops I most often see extra ram and slightly lower price, or no extra ram and more lower price, or something like that, but no huge savings and they are still higher priced than the competition.
There is no good standard for measuring battery life so that comparision is totally useless, which is probably why Dell don't bother to mention it at all.
If anything compare it while doing the stuff you will want to do on all of them.
I have NEVER had 5.5-6 hours of battery life on my Macbook Pro, completely idle 3-3.5 or something when it was new maybe, with browser 1 hour because Flash on OS X sucks balls. And now with the browser I probably get like 5-10 minutes because the battery have lost capacity, or the machine fails for some other reason, what do I know.
Macs don't have a microphone input instead, that is a much bigger problem for me. And the optical is mini-tos so "no" cables fit it. And some of the other machins probably do have optical and/or spdif. Useless for anyone who won't use it anyway.
And I'm sure some of the PCs had firewire which the Macbook doesn't have now, did he mention anything about that?
He probably skipped webcam because it would be subjective. And the Macbook Pro one I have is fairly good, and it supports 1.3 mpx even though the software / drivers only use 0.3 mpx.
The Apple touchpads rule.
Fingerprint scanner? I couldn't care less either.
iLife = iWeb, iPhoto, iDVD, iMovie and Garageband.
iWeb sucks the hardest, my cat could write better code.
iPhoto suck.
iDVD may be useful if you want to make a DVD of your video clips with their themes, but meh, not very useful.
iMovie is so simplified now that it's not very fun, easy to throw together/cut clips though.
Garageband is supposed to be good but is useless unless you make music.
Thin laptop is nice, but my Macbook Pro is 1" and becomes hot as hell, that is 70-80 degrees celsius hot at default settings. I'd much rather take even 0.5" extra if that would mean better cooling possibilities.
The environmental stuff is probably simply because Greenpeace rated them worst earlier so they did a bunch of improvements to get rated higher. I don't care, we fuck up the environment anyway, and most things can probably be recycled anyway.
And yes, I'd much rather pay less than half the price for a similar PC, or similar price for a gaming capable PC. (No, no gamer would get a 9400m machine.)
I know, I know: Because macs is expensive!
You get a high end CASE/design/brand recognition, which I don't know if everyone want to pay for.
You don't pay (extra for the higher worth of) for the actual technology and content of the case.
I wouldn't call Macbook "high end", still it cost twice as much as other brands. Macbook Pro is rather medium in specs but at premium prices.
And some people still pay extra for old bread in a flashy bag?
So people will think it's an extra good purchase right now and think they have to hurry up and buy now and feel happy with their purchase because they got "such a good price"? Quite obvious isn't it?
The question is why Apple don't offer anything on 7 month old laptops.
So don't install Vista. I call bullshit on anti-virus slowing down the machine a lot. I have a Macbook Pro and I'm never amazed by the speed, rather the lack of speed. Though I'm used to having desktops with bigger and faster HDDs.
Safari is the software which really craps on my experience. And the fact that I still haven't bought more memory yet since I wanted to send this one back.
Lenovo has very cheap consumer notebooks to.
Here in Sweden I'd say Dell actually is expensive, very much so, but configurable. Sure they offer some extras every now and then but they still end up expensive. ASUS is rather expensive to but prices can be ok. Sony probably slightly above Dell. HP and Lenovo are cheap and well worth it, Acer offers most for the money but I'm affraid you get what you pay for in their case.
If one only looks at specs the Macbook cost twice as much as a similar machine. You can get a Lenovo 15.4" with similair specs and X3100 instead for around 4500 sek, the Macbook is 12000 sek, go figure.
Sure mac fanatics will always try to find a perfect match for whatever the mac is, not the best buy, best configuration or whatever is cheapest with similar spec and performance. And since that limit their options for say quad xeons, fb-dimms and bullshit like that in the case of the mac pro it fucks up the price.
Yesterday I read an article about gaming performance on the new Macbook Pros and there was an HP with similar graphics which was a little slower for some reason. HDX 16 T or something like that. The price of that one is only 1000 dollars at base configurations but it still has a 9600m GT 512 MB, 1368x8xx something screen and could be had with 1920x1080 and so on. Awesome purchase for that amount of money, and half the price of a similar Macbook Pro.
Sure the quality of the case, innovative touchpad and small things like that gives the macs small advantages, but in the end of the day specs and what you can do with it is what matters. Or well, atleast for me as a geek/nerd and not as a designer who only cares about the looks.
I hate all these lame comparisions, macs is expensive, and much more expensive in Sweden. End of story. There is no reason to try to claim that's not the case, just accept it.
(And to the mac fanatics who belives different, just look at the profit margins if nothing else, try to claim that you get a good price / what it's worth / whatever when you look at how much higher Apples profit margins probably is to everyone elses.)
If only Nintendo made computers :D
And exactly how do you block the signal before the scrambler and after the descrambler in a way which can't be used without either of them?
Actually in this precise area I consider myself to be very sensetive.
No, rather that the satellites and small flying spythingys probably have a hard time seeing what you are up to under 10 km of water. Maybe.
Only way to be safe!?