"And of course their paid trolls will be looking for work also."
Forces me to answer. 1) No, it will probably not. 2) I would have prefered BSD, as we all know (ohnoz, one more troll moderation coming) all Linux dists are crap. 3) I'm not paid by m$. 4) I don't troll for m$. 5) I've got no work. 6) I don't look for works.
First I only got an advertising banner, and then there was no pictures on the damn thing in the article, it's not like I'll read the text. Sounds like a very crappy computer anyway. Please don't post this kind of shit on slashdot.
Hard to tell from a photo, on ign/1ups images the psp looked brighter, I know I read in a review that the Micro was indeed brighter than the Nintendo DS but not as bright as the PSP. And I guessed the new GBA SP would be around the same thing. Anyway, it's probably safe to say they are all as bright as it gets and the difference is so small it's not a major point when trying to figure out which one to get.
1) Size Their sizes are quite the same, but the screen on the DS is atleast protected while you carry it around. PSP with bag is probably bigger. Althought both are "big", and both require a large pocket or bag, noone will fit in your pants. So the same issues for both. Gameboy Micro owns both by a thousend times thought. _MY_ NDS will be able to play movies aswell and it got wifi-access to. Don't tell me you are actually browsing webpages with the PSP... Regarding the quality of the games it probably depends on personal taste, I would say the quality of the NDS games is much higher, but I speak game-value, not fancy graphics.
2) Pen The pen functionallity doesn't suck, many of the games which uses it does. Things like Advanced Wars and Metroid Prime Hunters are good exceptions. Atleast it's better than not having the pen at all. It also opens up the chance of PDA software for the NDS. It's damn small and crappy thought, and I would want to replace it with another one.
3) Yes, the hardware isn't as speedy as the PSP, still I will buy one of them for the games, not for the specs. And the NDS seem to win this round for the moment, allthought it's probably to early to count the PSP out completely.
4) Better on the Micro in that case I guess. Anyway, I want to be able to play DS games aswell. To me not many PSP games looks that intresting. Depends on taste.
5) The NDS uses 802.11, so it is standard WiFi. It just doesn't use TCP/IP, but why should it? Anyway there is a bounty ti get if you fix TCP/IP and there is DSLinux (which I don't know if it supports the wifi.)
I won't pay 300 sek for a crappy movie to play on my PSP, so movies doesn't make a shit of a difference to me.
What are you talking about in the end of your post? The Nintendo DS will play games over Internet to, and it will be free. So will you please STFU. Get a cluestick instead.
I look at webpages to see which games have came out or will come out and decide from that which ones seems the greatest. The situation is similair here and it's easier to try the PSP, and only Sony advertises, but anyway. Also Ebgames is crap and I would never buy from them.
Both got 802.11, the PSP got a TCP/IP-stack and a useless browser, the NDS doesn't. On the other hand there is Linux for the NDS (in the form of DSLinux.)
Does the DS really have fewer games? I thought it was around the same amount or maybe more. I've watched all the major gaming sites and there are much more games I feel I might play for the NDS. And also since you can play all 750+ GBA games the NDS must win that round.
But look what happens when Sony tries to be innovative. PSP Metal Gear Acid 3D-binoculars, full story, that's one pair of sexy glasses. I'm sure the PSP will never make you look like a geek.
I think the NDS battery was like 30%+ more capacity, and also you can't compare them anyway since the NDS uses TWO screens, not one, and it's hardware is much more powerful, but on the other side of the coin it's also much more modern so it might consume less power/performance. Anyway, you can't figure out the new battery power from looking at the NDS.
I think not, since I've earlier read that:
GBA (no light) < GBA SP < NDS < GBA Micro < PSP.
And this one seem to be said to have the same brightness as the Micro.
I've also understood that the PSP and the new GBA SP got slower screens, and the NDS and GBA Micro got faster ones (don't know which one is fastest.)
Some people have complained the GBA SP got a blueish color, and on the example photos it looks like the GBA Micro also got a tint of blue. The new GBA SP seems to have better colors.
So if you compare brightness and colors I'd expect the PSP to be the best one, then the new GBA SP, then the GBA Micro, then the NDS, and then the old GBA SP.
Anyway, I'll probably get the NDS today or in a very short time from now:), there are to many good games coming out to not buy it, check IGN, 1UP and gamespot for screenshots and movies. Also Joystiq is a good site.
Sell the 8 week old one and get the Micro? Sure you lose a little but it's not the end of the world, and you get an even more portable system with a bright screen.
"Personally what I wish they release would be a GB with this type of screen, however with the shape and such of the original GBA"
It's already here, more or less, as the PSP;)
But seriously, the PSP is probably just the thing the GBA would have been if Nintendo had decided to upgrade it's hardware. But with the small difference it only get crappy games of course;)
(I didn't wanted to say anything good about THEIR side:D)
But to me it seems the current and as of now known game setup is way better for the DS, and also I don't own a GBA so there is another 700+ games, and last I can run emulators and stuff on the NDS, I can't on the PSP until it's cracked ones again, and who knows for how long it will work that time?
The PSP screen is gorgeus thought, and of course snappier hardware on the NDS would be good, the touchscreen compensates a little since it makes it possible to make games on the NDS which will never be any good on the PSP.
But I can understand that the PSP is more intresting for someone who already own a GBA.
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I mentioned Europe since we always get everything last and for the highest price. (Xbox360 premium will cost $340 in asia, $400 in the US, $525 in Sweden..)
I know about lik-sang, but ordering from there probably takes more time, plus you might have to add swedish taxes and custom and end up with price of game + postage(free you said) + 25% tax + 6% custom. And still, why do we always have to get everything last? And the stores can't show advanced wars and kirby anyway.
Also for some retarded reason we voted yes for EU (crap) but no for Euro (good if we are supposed to be in EU), so we still have SEK. We would have got a (compared to now) good deal on the Euro if we had joined aswell (around ~9 sek for 1 euro compared to 9.24 now.)
"And yes, you can just use a flash cart + a passthrough adapter. You can also downgrade your firmware if you got a new colored japanese PSP to allow the PassMe to work. Flash carts are cheaper than SD card carts and a lot of old GBA hackers still have them, but the SD card carts are far cheaper in terms of maximum swappable storage. Depends what you're after."
Yeah, I've read that it doesn't currently work on the red NDS, but it's true for all colors? I've been wondering since we'll get the blue and pink one in Europe the 7 October and I would prefer a blue one over a silver, but I don't know if things will work then. Are there any other differences in the firmware?
I'm thinking about the M3 which a friend will start to import (uses sd or cf) or the G6 which seems to have builtin memory. Don't know which one is the best one.
I don't care much of the GP32/GPx2 since "all open-source games suck", I don't expect it to get much better. And also it only got ONE analogue stick and no touch screen. Good games bet high specs any day. Amiga ftw:D I've read about the GP32 years ago and it seemed fine, but then I saw only 30.000 or so of them have been released? Must be many active users measured in percent then, but still, way to few. I would of course prefer it over the gizmondo:D
Regarding the revolution I suppose I could use TV-out and a PC-controller + emulators aswell. But I dunno which feeling is the best.
Regarding killing homebrew and so on, the only sad part is of course they don't make any money for the people which pirate. But many (me if I pirated...;D) wouldn't have bought the software in the first place so there really isn't any kind of loss there (seriously, I wouldn't pay 500 sek for a very simple game, not to mention I can't afford it even if I thought it was worth that. I've bought WC3-ROC and WC3-TFT thought, but they are kick ass games and the price was quite affordable.)
Regarding the Internet things that would suck, but isn't it more likely they make some special software for your accesspoint/windows?
They probably do it because they can, not because they can compete over Sony. And the GP32 was reasonable successful as I've understood it, and I read they sold 30.000 of them, and that isn't that much..
"The DS gets 8-10 hours light on, 12-16 light off. In GBA mode it gets more than that.", Ok, I thought Nintendo said 10 hours and if I remember things correctly something could bring that down to 5, so I thought it was the light. Maybe it was using wifi? Anyway, in that case it was better. But some people seem to belive the PSP is just 2-3 hours but as I said it seems like a more regular time is 6 hours (althought it just run at 2/3 of the maximum clock frequency), with heavy games running out much faster, probably even faster if using wifi.
I don't know much about PSP homebrew, but that is the impression I've got aswell. The downgrader seems gone and who knows when/if 1.52 and 2.0 will get hacked, and even if they do what will you do when 2.1 is out?
Regarding homebrew you can also just use the passme + flashcart can't you? The M3 or G6 seems like the better ones. Also since those are "movie-players" you can still play movies on the DS, and since the PSP got resolution reduction when you play from memory stick the quality might be almost as good aswell.
I don't own a PSP, I just wanted to get the facts right since you are all fanboys from both sides;D, hardware vise I think the PSP is excellent maybe even better value, but if I can't play "homebrew" I'm not intrested, I'm not that into games;D.
The PS3 will probably be better than the Xbox360, althought I'll probably get the Revolution. I once bought an XBOX but it was so damn boring so I sold it.
What I wanted to say there seems to be many "tech demo"-like games for the NDS so far and not that many games where the touchscreen really makes sense, with a few exceptions.
Yeah, I know, althought I don't think there are any rumours about Starcraft, only "Would be nice to have". Advanced wars and Age of empires thought. And yes, touch screen makes it possible to do FPS and Strategy, which is good. (saw game footage of ghouls'n'ghosts or whatever the game is called just a few minutes ago, for the psp, looked nice, but castlevania for the ds is probably nice aswell.)
No, I haven't tried kirbys canvas course, watched some gameplay footage today and it looked nice and fun, i'm more thinking of warioware and games where the touchscreen is used just because they can, not because it's usefull.
Also I live in Sweden/Europe, we always get things last, so I'm not sure we have got kirbys here yet, we haven't good advanced wars, and a bunch of other games. Sucks, for Nintendo.
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"And of course their paid trolls will be looking for work also."
Forces me to answer. 1) No, it will probably not. 2) I would have prefered BSD, as we all know (ohnoz, one more troll moderation coming) all Linux dists are crap. 3) I'm not paid by m$. 4) I don't troll for m$. 5) I've got no work. 6) I don't look for works.
Would be much cooler if they came with MacOS X.
First I only got an advertising banner, and then there was no pictures on the damn thing in the article, it's not like I'll read the text. Sounds like a very crappy computer anyway. Please don't post this kind of shit on slashdot.
Hard to tell from a photo, on ign/1ups images the psp looked brighter, I know I read in a review that the Micro was indeed brighter than the Nintendo DS but not as bright as the PSP. And I guessed the new GBA SP would be around the same thing. Anyway, it's probably safe to say they are all as bright as it gets and the difference is so small it's not a major point when trying to figure out which one to get.
Ok, so I pay for two units which plays crap games so I can play old ones? Great.
1) Size
Their sizes are quite the same, but the screen on the DS is atleast protected while you carry it around. PSP with bag is probably bigger. Althought both are "big", and both require a large pocket or bag, noone will fit in your pants. So the same issues for both. Gameboy Micro owns both by a thousend times thought.
_MY_ NDS will be able to play movies aswell and it got wifi-access to. Don't tell me you are actually browsing webpages with the PSP...
Regarding the quality of the games it probably depends on personal taste, I would say the quality of the NDS games is much higher, but I speak game-value, not fancy graphics.
2) Pen
The pen functionallity doesn't suck, many of the games which uses it does. Things like Advanced Wars and Metroid Prime Hunters are good exceptions. Atleast it's better than not having the pen at all. It also opens up the chance of PDA software for the NDS. It's damn small and crappy thought, and I would want to replace it with another one.
3) Yes, the hardware isn't as speedy as the PSP, still I will buy one of them for the games, not for the specs. And the NDS seem to win this round for the moment, allthought it's probably to early to count the PSP out completely.
4) Better on the Micro in that case I guess. Anyway, I want to be able to play DS games aswell. To me not many PSP games looks that intresting. Depends on taste.
5) The NDS uses 802.11, so it is standard WiFi. It just doesn't use TCP/IP, but why should it? Anyway there is a bounty ti get if you fix TCP/IP and there is DSLinux (which I don't know if it supports the wifi.)
I won't pay 300 sek for a crappy movie to play on my PSP, so movies doesn't make a shit of a difference to me.
What are you talking about in the end of your post? The Nintendo DS will play games over Internet to, and it will be free. So will you please STFU. Get a cluestick instead.
I look at webpages to see which games have came out or will come out and decide from that which ones seems the greatest. The situation is similair here and it's easier to try the PSP, and only Sony advertises, but anyway. Also Ebgames is crap and I would never buy from them.
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Both got 802.11, the PSP got a TCP/IP-stack and a useless browser, the NDS doesn't. On the other hand there is Linux for the NDS (in the form of DSLinux.)
Does the DS really have fewer games? I thought it was around the same amount or maybe more. I've watched all the major gaming sites and there are much more games I feel I might play for the NDS. And also since you can play all 750+ GBA games the NDS must win that round.
But look what happens when Sony tries to be innovative.
PSP Metal Gear Acid 3D-binoculars, full story, that's one pair of sexy glasses.
I'm sure the PSP will never make you look like a geek.
You need to read my comment again I think.
Hint: Think different.
I think the NDS battery was like 30%+ more capacity, and also you can't compare them anyway since the NDS uses TWO screens, not one, and it's hardware is much more powerful, but on the other side of the coin it's also much more modern so it might consume less power/performance. Anyway, you can't figure out the new battery power from looking at the NDS.
I think not, since I've earlier read that:
:), there are to many good games coming out to not buy it, check IGN, 1UP and gamespot for screenshots and movies. Also Joystiq is a good site.
GBA (no light) < GBA SP < NDS < GBA Micro < PSP.
And this one seem to be said to have the same brightness as the Micro.
I've also understood that the PSP and the new GBA SP got slower screens, and the NDS and GBA Micro got faster ones (don't know which one is fastest.)
Some people have complained the GBA SP got a blueish color, and on the example photos it looks like the GBA Micro also got a tint of blue. The new GBA SP seems to have better colors.
So if you compare brightness and colors I'd expect the PSP to be the best one, then the new GBA SP, then the GBA Micro, then the NDS, and then the old GBA SP.
Anyway, I'll probably get the NDS today or in a very short time from now
I think not, since I've earlier read that:
GBA (no light) http://www.ign.com/, http://www.1up.com/ and http://www.gamespot.com/ for screenshots and movies.
Sell the 8 week old one and get the Micro? Sure you lose a little but it's not the end of the world, and you get an even more portable system with a bright screen.
"Personally what I wish they release would be a GB with this type of screen, however with the shape and such of the original GBA" ;) ;)
:D)
It's already here, more or less, as the PSP
But seriously, the PSP is probably just the thing the GBA would have been if Nintendo had decided to upgrade it's hardware. But with the small difference it only get crappy games of course
(I didn't wanted to say anything good about THEIR side
But to me it seems the current and as of now known game setup is way better for the DS, and also I don't own a GBA so there is another 700+ games, and last I can run emulators and stuff on the NDS, I can't on the PSP until it's cracked ones again, and who knows for how long it will work that time?
The PSP screen is gorgeus thought, and of course snappier hardware on the NDS would be good, the touchscreen compensates a little since it makes it possible to make games on the NDS which will never be any good on the PSP.
But I can understand that the PSP is more intresting for someone who already own a GBA.
But the GBA doesn't support NDS games ;), and there are emulators for GB/GBC for the NDS.
care to drop me an e-mail instead of posting as anonymous coward so i have no idea if you'll answer? :D and please tell me what works and how, mail dospam@gmail.com.
I mentioned Europe since we always get everything last and for the highest price. (Xbox360 premium will cost $340 in asia, $400 in the US, $525 in Sweden..)
I know about lik-sang, but ordering from there probably takes more time, plus you might have to add swedish taxes and custom and end up with price of game + postage(free you said) + 25% tax + 6% custom. And still, why do we always have to get everything last? And the stores can't show advanced wars and kirby anyway.
Also for some retarded reason we voted yes for EU (crap) but no for Euro (good if we are supposed to be in EU), so we still have SEK. We would have got a (compared to now) good deal on the Euro if we had joined aswell (around ~9 sek for 1 euro compared to 9.24 now.)
"And yes, you can just use a flash cart + a passthrough adapter. You can also downgrade your firmware if you got a new colored japanese PSP to allow the PassMe to work. Flash carts are cheaper than SD card carts and a lot of old GBA hackers still have them, but the SD card carts are far cheaper in terms of maximum swappable storage. Depends what you're after."
:D :D
;D) wouldn't have bought the software in the first place so there really isn't any kind of loss there (seriously, I wouldn't pay 500 sek for a very simple game, not to mention I can't afford it even if I thought it was worth that. I've bought WC3-ROC and WC3-TFT thought, but they are kick ass games and the price was quite affordable.)
Yeah, I've read that it doesn't currently work on the red NDS, but it's true for all colors? I've been wondering since we'll get the blue and pink one in Europe the 7 October and I would prefer a blue one over a silver, but I don't know if things will work then. Are there any other differences in the firmware?
I'm thinking about the M3 which a friend will start to import (uses sd or cf) or the G6 which seems to have builtin memory. Don't know which one is the best one.
I don't care much of the GP32/GPx2 since "all open-source games suck", I don't expect it to get much better. And also it only got ONE analogue stick and no touch screen. Good games bet high specs any day. Amiga ftw
I've read about the GP32 years ago and it seemed fine, but then I saw only 30.000 or so of them have been released? Must be many active users measured in percent then, but still, way to few. I would of course prefer it over the gizmondo
Regarding the revolution I suppose I could use TV-out and a PC-controller + emulators aswell. But I dunno which feeling is the best.
Regarding killing homebrew and so on, the only sad part is of course they don't make any money for the people which pirate. But many (me if I pirated...
Regarding the Internet things that would suck, but isn't it more likely they make some special software for your accesspoint/windows?
They probably do it because they can, not because they can compete over Sony. And the GP32 was reasonable successful as I've understood it, and I read they sold 30.000 of them, and that isn't that much..
The question is if Haiku will ;)
"The DS gets 8-10 hours light on, 12-16 light off. In GBA mode it gets more than that.", Ok, I thought Nintendo said 10 hours and if I remember things correctly something could bring that down to 5, so I thought it was the light. Maybe it was using wifi? Anyway, in that case it was better. But some people seem to belive the PSP is just 2-3 hours but as I said it seems like a more regular time is 6 hours (althought it just run at 2/3 of the maximum clock frequency), with heavy games running out much faster, probably even faster if using wifi.
;D, hardware vise I think the PSP is excellent maybe even better value, but if I can't play "homebrew" I'm not intrested, I'm not that into games ;D.
I don't know much about PSP homebrew, but that is the impression I've got aswell. The downgrader seems gone and who knows when/if 1.52 and 2.0 will get hacked, and even if they do what will you do when 2.1 is out?
Regarding homebrew you can also just use the passme + flashcart can't you? The M3 or G6 seems like the better ones. Also since those are "movie-players" you can still play movies on the DS, and since the PSP got resolution reduction when you play from memory stick the quality might be almost as good aswell.
I don't own a PSP, I just wanted to get the facts right since you are all fanboys from both sides
The PS3 will probably be better than the Xbox360, althought I'll probably get the Revolution. I once bought an XBOX but it was so damn boring so I sold it.
Yeah, just one more addition ;)
As you can see we only have crap. Piracy ftw.
What I wanted to say there seems to be many "tech demo"-like games for the NDS so far and not that many games where the touchscreen really makes sense, with a few exceptions.
Yeah, I know, althought I don't think there are any rumours about Starcraft, only "Would be nice to have". Advanced wars and Age of empires thought. And yes, touch screen makes it possible to do FPS and Strategy, which is good. (saw game footage of ghouls'n'ghosts or whatever the game is called just a few minutes ago, for the psp, looked nice, but castlevania for the ds is probably nice aswell.)
No, I haven't tried kirbys canvas course, watched some gameplay footage today and it looked nice and fun, i'm more thinking of warioware and games where the touchscreen is used just because they can, not because it's usefull.
Also I live in Sweden/Europe, we always get things last, so I'm not sure we have got kirbys here yet, we haven't good advanced wars, and a bunch of other games. Sucks, for Nintendo.