As a user I like the GPL, but I still think it could/do lead to an inflation in the value of code/programming. Say for example some developer helps with firefox, because he/she can and think it's fun, the problem is the user doesn't earn any money, but companies like RedHat do. Some day the said developer might want to earn their living on programming, the problem then is that if he/she for instance starts to code his own browser, well, the chances are much lower anyone will buy it.
Also of course it's great noone can steal others free work and GPL code, modify it and earn money of it without contributing, but the same thing will also lead to some people/companies not improving or using the software. Which gives less choices.
I have no idea how one could solve it thought. Maybe some open-source shareware license where you pay a royality to the one you borrow code from.
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I don't know so much about the apache license, but anyway, not everyone wants GPL you know. I for sure don't. First because I can't look into someones code, "borrow" some implementation and use my code for whatever. Secondly if all computer software was GPLed how would any programmers earn their money? Donations? Code stuff for money because the functionality aren't there in the first place?
I for once won't read them. Right now I read my mail in thunderbird but I prefer mutt so as soon as I'm "home again" I'll go back to mutt. And if the e-mail uses HTML, well, guess what?
Some people sends out both HTML and plain text version, that is fine to me aslong as I do understand the HTML part is unintresting.
"How come we bash Microsoft's monopolizing tactics but praise Apple for doing pretty much the same thing with iPods and iTMS?"
I can only talk for myself, but as I see it Apple is innovates, and delivers a good product, a product they deservs to have some protection for.
Microsoft on the other hand replicates, and try to figure out a way to block everyone else out.
Also Apples usage of Mpeg4/H.264, rendezvous(spelling..), bonjour, MP3/AAC, are open/available on a broader market (mp3 and mpeg4 aren't as "open" as I would liked them to be thought). Microsoft on the other side most do it their way, I don't remember what network stuff they made in some weird way earlier, they uses WMA and WMV, if they made something like rendezvous it wouldn't be an open format and so on.
Also Apple probably gives some kind of feedback/money/resources/code/.. to the FreeBSD people, althought I don't know, I guess they return code to KHTML and so on.
Althought I like free things, I can't say I myself would have liked to work for free and get nothing, so I do understand some coders/designers/.. want money for their products and work. So just because Apple tries to make a profit doesn't mean they are evil. (They should be more helpful regarding mac clones and other oses than macos support on their macs thought. On that point they aren't good at all. Being able to run MorphOS/AmigaOS on the mac would be cool =))
Can I change my mind? It was "clearer" but might not be more detailed, just from a place which have been more developed the last years. I should have looked closer, anyway, there is an example image;)
The limits is an performance one not code, in any of the oses you are likely to find some "reasonable default" together with a maximum setting, which could of course have been higher/use another data type if there was a use for it. I guess you can change the values for Windows settings and in some BSDs atleast you'll be limited by the maximum amount of file descriptors for the system, maybe for the user depending on settings and in NetBSD and older OpenBSDs (I think they changed it in the newer ones) a thing called NMBCLUSTERS which the documentation doesn't mention much about.
Of course they could all use 64 bit datatypes for the setting and allow someone to allocate whatever GB amount of ram for holding only the filedescriptors but what use would it be if the machine would be way to slow to use with that many simultaneus users.
Here in Sweden they do, sort of. We have a law which protects how personal information like name, address, and so on should be handled on the Internet and after a much noticed raid of the ISP Bahnhof the swedish anti piracy agency APB got much criticism. Among other things it was said that an IP-address could actually be considered personal information, which makes the PUL (PersonUppgiftsLagen, Personal Information Law) kick in. Which for instance makes it illegal to spread that information in whatever way you feel for without permission from the person it matters. And also we have a law to protect someones privacy called Sekretesslagen.
Anyway, it all ends up in that for a small crime (which "regular" fileshareing seems to belong to) the ISP aren't allowed to share the name and other things with APB. If the crime is considered large the Police could probably get the information, but anyway.
Also APB have sent out a large amount of letters to scare people who uses common P2P programs, they haven't done that directly thought, they have given the IP-address to the ISP which have forwarded the message to the costumer. However noone I know using the ISP Bredbandsbolaget have gotten any mail/letters, and it's said Labs2 doesn't send out any either, because they don't care about what the private APB wants. Labs2 have also said they have gone one step longer only logging what is required by law and stop logging the rest to protect the privacy of their users.
Uhm, because you can't? How would you solve it? You could of course have a lot more transistors and group them by 2, but i guess they don't have the technology or the consumers don't have the money. And i guess many layers for different resolutions isn't an option either.
I know it's not recommended, however the comment section in the kernel config says "atleast one is needed", it doesn't say "remove old cpu support and it will break". I also know optimization doesn't do much different at all but often being able to is reason enough to do it.
And also optimization can bring forward errors in bad hardware, so it's might not break on another machine.
And anyway the locale part isn't there. So far NetBSD seem to run fine with march=athlon-tbird -O 2 -pipe.
Define "many". A comment like this could be made about ANYTHING. It is completely pointless. People will always have opinions and most will continue to be wrong.
I have no idea, I just see the comments from people and webpages sometimes, I personally have to little knowledge to know if something is wrong/stupid or not. Part of it is probably because they brag so much about security and then it becomes more fun for some people when they fail.
Maybe you became bored of OpenBSD because you couldn't figure out how to use it. I've been very happily using OpenBSD for desktops for years and I know many others have too.
I've used OpenBSD as a desktop a long time ago aswell (and freebsd and netbsd), and used it for a server since 2.4 or 2.5. However back then I could remove i386-i586 support in the kernel and compile with -march=i686 -O2 without breaking anything, something which didn't worked with the latest versions. (That might be gccs fault and not OpenBSDs)
Also at one time the machine crashed on me each time I tried to grep something from a lot of data (maybe it always does? Seems weird enough thought).
The second issue might be fixed, the first issue isn't there if you compile for i386, however I also got a third issue with irssi since new versions requires some locale functionality which isn't there in OpenBSD.
PS, it's although and though. Put a bit of thought into it will you.
English isn't my native language so I don't care.
Was there anything weird with the rest? I like all of the BSDs due to the amount of documentation easily available, why I like NetBSD a little more than the rest is because I find pkgsrc better than ports (but that's only my personal opinion and might be because I haven't looked into the deep of any of them). Benchmark tests HAVE found FreeBSD 5.2 to be slower than 4.x, and 5.3 even slower. SMP performance is probably improved thought, and they say the schedulers have been reworked to give better performance for the interface and things like playing movies/sound without any chopping(?). And DragonFly is intresting because whatever with new ideas are.
FreeBSD _was_ performing very good on x86 hardware (only), FreeBSD 5.x is often slower on single-cpu machines because they try to improve SMP performance and functionality. 5.x supports quite a few architectures aswell.
DragonFly is a fork of FreeBSD 4.x, better performance than FreeBSD 5.x but not for production (if you ask them), if I've understood everything correct their goal is among others fast IPC and beeing able to run the OS on a cluster. Right now they are going x86 only I think.
NetBSD is about portability, clean code and correctness, earlier it was slower than FreeBSD but it has catched up a lot with 2.x.
OpenBSD is a fork of NetBSD which centers about security, althought many people are sceptical.
Personally I've got more and more tired of OpenBSD, really like NetBSD and are very intrested in what will become of DragonFly. If you just want something which works as a desktop FreeBSD might still be your best bet thought.
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For example I guess the people who have worked with Solaris sees the evolution of Linux on the server market as something which isn't only good.
As a user I like the GPL, but I still think it could/do lead to an inflation in the value of code/programming. Say for example some developer helps with firefox, because he/she can and think it's fun, the problem is the user doesn't earn any money, but companies like RedHat do.
Some day the said developer might want to earn their living on programming, the problem then is that if he/she for instance starts to code his own browser, well, the chances are much lower anyone will buy it.
Also of course it's great noone can steal others free work and GPL code, modify it and earn money of it without contributing, but the same thing will also lead to some people/companies not improving or using the software. Which gives less choices.
I have no idea how one could solve it thought. Maybe some open-source shareware license where you pay a royality to the one you borrow code from.
I don't know so much about the apache license, but anyway, not everyone wants GPL you know. I for sure don't. First because I can't look into someones code, "borrow" some implementation and use my code for whatever. Secondly if all computer software was GPLed how would any programmers earn their money? Donations? Code stuff for money because the functionality aren't there in the first place?
Backwards compatible? Yes, looks so.
But why doesn't you guys even consider the PS3 or Nintendo Revolution before the XBOX 360? I don't understand...
The others will probably own the xbox 360 anyway. And also you don't have to support Microsoft plus give them one more dominant position.
Well, e-mail is e-mail, not the web. If I receive an e-mail I want a letter in text, not a flashy webpage.
I for once won't read them. Right now I read my mail in thunderbird but I prefer mutt so as soon as I'm "home again" I'll go back to mutt. And if the e-mail uses HTML, well, guess what?
Some people sends out both HTML and plain text version, that is fine to me aslong as I do understand the HTML part is unintresting.
The question is, why aren't you running adblock? :)
(althought I guess it's bad for the economy of slashdot)
"How come we bash Microsoft's monopolizing tactics but praise Apple for doing pretty much the same thing with iPods and iTMS?"
I can only talk for myself, but as I see it Apple is innovates, and delivers a good product, a product they deservs to have some protection for.
Microsoft on the other hand replicates, and try to figure out a way to block everyone else out.
Also Apples usage of Mpeg4/H.264, rendezvous(spelling..), bonjour, MP3/AAC, are open/available on a broader market (mp3 and mpeg4 aren't as "open" as I would liked them to be thought). Microsoft on the other side most do it their way, I don't remember what network stuff they made in some weird way earlier, they uses WMA and WMV, if they made something like rendezvous it wouldn't be an open format and so on.
Also Apple probably gives some kind of feedback/money/resources/code/.. to the FreeBSD people, althought I don't know, I guess they return code to KHTML and so on.
Althought I like free things, I can't say I myself would have liked to work for free and get nothing, so I do understand some coders/designers/.. want money for their products and work. So just because Apple tries to make a profit doesn't mean they are evil. (They should be more helpful regarding mac clones and other oses than macos support on their macs thought. On that point they aren't good at all. Being able to run MorphOS/AmigaOS on the mac would be cool =))
To bad I've already made a post so I can't mod you up.
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Can I change my mind? It was "clearer" but might not be more detailed, just from a place which have been more developed the last years. I should have looked closer, anyway, there is an example image ;)
If you would have read the article and looked at the comparision image you would see the resulting image is better. See for yourself here
ok, falling into the ground then, they aren't as big as they was.
The limits is an performance one not code, in any of the oses you are likely to find some "reasonable default" together with a maximum setting, which could of course have been higher/use another data type if there was a use for it. I guess you can change the values for Windows settings and in some BSDs atleast you'll be limited by the maximum amount of file descriptors for the system, maybe for the user depending on settings and in NetBSD and older OpenBSDs (I think they changed it in the newer ones) a thing called NMBCLUSTERS which the documentation doesn't mention much about.
Of course they could all use 64 bit datatypes for the setting and allow someone to allocate whatever GB amount of ram for holding only the filedescriptors but what use would it be if the machine would be way to slow to use with that many simultaneus users.
No matter what, I can't let Nintendo die, and even if the others rip whatever is new the original should be the one who gets supported.
Imaginge a game like biplanes on this one, or any kind of flight simulator, or quake.
Here in Sweden they do, sort of.
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We have a law which protects how personal information like name, address, and so on should be handled on the Internet and after a much noticed raid of the ISP Bahnhof the swedish anti piracy agency APB got much criticism. Among other things it was said that an IP-address could actually be considered personal information, which makes the PUL (PersonUppgiftsLagen, Personal Information Law) kick in. Which for instance makes it illegal to spread that information in whatever way you feel for without permission from the person it matters. And also we have a law to protect someones privacy called Sekretesslagen.
Anyway, it all ends up in that for a small crime (which "regular" fileshareing seems to belong to) the ISP aren't allowed to share the name and other things with APB. If the crime is considered large the Police could probably get the information, but anyway.
Also APB have sent out a large amount of letters to scare people who uses common P2P programs, they haven't done that directly thought, they have given the IP-address to the ISP which have forwarded the message to the costumer. However noone I know using the ISP Bredbandsbolaget have gotten any mail/letters, and it's said Labs2 doesn't send out any either, because they don't care about what the private APB wants. Labs2 have also said they have gone one step longer only logging what is required by law and stop logging the rest to protect the privacy of their users.
More information can be found at:
http://www.piratbyran.org/
APBs webpage http://www.antipiratbyran.com/ is down since they got hacked.
Sorry for my bad english
Why did this make it into the front page? Old silly crap, can't we just post all bash.org quotes aswell?
Depending on country isn't it legal to have the copies? Aslong as you don't let anyone else get them.
Uhm, because you can't? How would you solve it? You could of course have a lot more transistors and group them by 2, but i guess they don't have the technology or the consumers don't have the money. And i guess many layers for different resolutions isn't an option either.
Maybe one should just sudo to user "web" when browsing, reading e-mails and so on. No damage done to your homedir in that case.
I know it's not recommended, however the comment section in the kernel config says "atleast one is needed", it doesn't say "remove old cpu support and it will break". I also know optimization doesn't do much different at all but often being able to is reason enough to do it.
And also optimization can bring forward errors in bad hardware, so it's might not break on another machine.
And anyway the locale part isn't there. So far NetBSD seem to run fine with march=athlon-tbird -O 2 -pipe.
Define "many". A comment like this could be made about ANYTHING. It is completely pointless. People will always have opinions and most will continue to be wrong.
I have no idea, I just see the comments from people and webpages sometimes, I personally have to little knowledge to know if something is wrong/stupid or not. Part of it is probably because they brag so much about security and then it becomes more fun for some people when they fail.
Maybe you became bored of OpenBSD because you couldn't figure out how to use it. I've been very happily using OpenBSD for desktops for years and I know many others have too.
I've used OpenBSD as a desktop a long time ago aswell (and freebsd and netbsd), and used it for a server since 2.4 or 2.5. However back then I could remove i386-i586 support in the kernel and compile with -march=i686 -O2 without breaking anything, something which didn't worked with the latest versions. (That might be gccs fault and not OpenBSDs) Also at one time the machine crashed on me each time I tried to grep something from a lot of data (maybe it always does? Seems weird enough thought). The second issue might be fixed, the first issue isn't there if you compile for i386, however I also got a third issue with irssi since new versions requires some locale functionality which isn't there in OpenBSD.
PS, it's although and though. Put a bit of thought into it will you.
English isn't my native language so I don't care.
Was there anything weird with the rest? I like all of the BSDs due to the amount of documentation easily available, why I like NetBSD a little more than the rest is because I find pkgsrc better than ports (but that's only my personal opinion and might be because I haven't looked into the deep of any of them). Benchmark tests HAVE found FreeBSD 5.2 to be slower than 4.x, and 5.3 even slower. SMP performance is probably improved thought, and they say the schedulers have been reworked to give better performance for the interface and things like playing movies/sound without any chopping(?). And DragonFly is intresting because whatever with new ideas are.
BSD/OS is commercial.
FreeBSD _was_ performing very good on x86 hardware (only), FreeBSD 5.x is often slower on single-cpu machines because they try to improve SMP performance and functionality. 5.x supports quite a few architectures aswell.
DragonFly is a fork of FreeBSD 4.x, better performance than FreeBSD 5.x but not for production (if you ask them), if I've understood everything correct their goal is among others fast IPC and beeing able to run the OS on a cluster. Right now they are going x86 only I think.
NetBSD is about portability, clean code and correctness, earlier it was slower than FreeBSD but it has catched up a lot with 2.x.
OpenBSD is a fork of NetBSD which centers about security, althought many people are sceptical.
Personally I've got more and more tired of OpenBSD, really like NetBSD and are very intrested in what will become of DragonFly. If you just want something which works as a desktop FreeBSD might still be your best bet thought.
I don't think they have to host the source-code, just be able to give it to you if you ask for it, but maybe it's not even modified at all.
They wonder why europen have so much piracy and they they always give us the goods last... Well, guess what?