You see though, DirecTV implemented it to stop people pirating their signal, not redistributing the content gotten by the signal. If a buy a DVD and can't crack it easily, I'll just take the next easy route and loop the video into my computer. Sure it won't be automatic and any interactive menu's etc would be lost, but most are only interested in the movie anyway. I think this will be cracked over and over again though, you can't enforce client side encryption on millinons of players without the key getting out millions of times. This kind of crazy stuff relies on you never being able to find the key despite it being in your possession. Regards, Steve
Keep in mind that the Fedora update utility is updating up to 10,000 applications, not just core system software like MS's update utility, so expect some increased complexity (although once you set up your ignore list, its usually just as easy as clicking "select all", click next, click next, all done and updated). Using the ignore funtionality works great for me under FC3 so I'm not too sure what you are referring to as far as problems go. Maybe if you supply more information someone can help you, or go to #fedora on irc.freenode.net and someone there is always willing to help. On a side note, if you are a noob you most likely dont want to be disabling any updates. Fedora by default puts new kernels on your ignore list but other then that, updating is usually a good thing (If you used something like debian testing or unstable prior to fedora I can see the basis for your paranoia as I still have one server left running debian testing and updating breaks it monthly at a minimum, but the situation is completely different in fedora and I have yet to see anything similar happen). Regards, Steve
From what I've read it limits the user to 3 visible applications (i.e. ones that they can interact with). In this case, limiting it is very easy, just wait until the desktop has 3 top-level windows (those windows can obviously have children of their own) so the parent-child relationship only needs to be enforced at one high level in the tree. At the point of 3 windows, the operating system just kills any process trying to create a new window. I can already think of a few hacks around this but the thing is, the people buying this most likely won't be the type to hack at things and if they were willing to hack the OS a little here and there, they'd most likely be more then willing to just download the damn full version. Regards, Steve
Most universities just automatically route traffic between universities over I2 and the student never really knows or does anything to make it do that. In addition, I2 has a ton of friggin bandwidth and it is no where near sweating, its infastructure is significantly more advanced then the public internet's and this private I2 has far less users. A more advanced infastructure + less users = crazy ass speed for anything you want to do. Tranferring a few dvds is no big deal. Regardless, isn't this a good lesson in network theory? Perhaps swarming too and other computer science related fields:) I don't know if you've ever used I2, but I use it daily and for research related purposes and it more then suffices any of me or my colleagues needs. Regards, Steve
Yes I understand this, and if it was something as stupid as [insert some unknown distro] has grown from 1 user to 6 users then I wouldn't have mentioned it. The parent to my post was claiming that Red Hat no longer had a viable free alternative, if that was the case then noone would be using Fedora. Red Hat lost at most 19,900 users, assuming all of them switched over to Fedora then RH/FC still has a net gain of 223,261 *new* users that had not previously been running any Red Hat product. I was simply telling the parent how wrong he was, I can't stand when people spread blatant misinformation. Just FYI, Debian gained 97,145 servers, Suse 43,877, Gentoo 19,635, and Mandrake 10,487. Regardless of what numbers you choose to look at (growth rates or actual figures of new servers) the Fedora numbers are impressive and significantly better then the other distros, all in under 2 years. This, in my humble oppinion, says something about the quality of the distro. But I didn't even intend to take this thread this deep, I just wanted to shut up the parent that I had previosuly responded to. Regards, Steve
Really? Because I see a huge need in the enterprise arena for some sophisticated permissions in firefox along with a central managemnet application for enterprises who want to deploy firefox. As long as the price is right I think it'd be huge. There are plenty of other things that I can think of that would sell well as additions to firefox's base. And as far as Open Source not being able to make any money... please go tell that to Red Hat and Novell and come back to me when your worth even just 1 thousandth what they are. I hate responding to trolls but sometimes it must be done. Regards, Steve
Netcraft confirms it, Red Hat's viable free linux distro is kicking everyone else's ass in growth rate, followed only by Gentoo who is growing 3 times slower but still 2nd place. (Just FYI, the debian category as I understand it includes all direct deriviatives too). Regards, Steve
Finding a job is pretty easy in this field, you either aren't looking hard enough, don't have the skill set that you think you have, or are just unlucky as hell. I'm a college student in my 3rd year of a 5 year degree and I've got 6 offers all over $40,000 a year for my internships and continuation afterwards part time with a job offer when I graduate as well. This is on the east coast, and yes I know its not the most money in the world, but for a college student its pretty good. Regards, Steve
He was most likely asked or forced to sign some form of Non-disclosure agreement. This is even more likely if lawyers were or are involved (in which we'd have no way of knowing if all involved parties keep silent). Regards, Steve
Err what you describe as far as education levels go is pretty standard, at least on the east coast in the US. The only thing is, people have a hell of alot more freedom, and a hell of alot more oppurtunities. Being in such a rigid society as you describe would be horrific and you claim that intelligence is more or less all you need to get by. In reality you need to have good business sense, people skills, and foresight. These are things you can't teach and for the most part must come by natural means. There are also many others things that school just can't do you for you, including alot of the theory you learn in school, while it is interesting, you won't ever use 90% of it. There are many reasons why that system fails. Intelligence is extremely important, but it is not the end all be all, especially when you define intelligence in how many theories you know in various sciences. There is alot more to being successful and the natural system that the US and England tend to follow is way better. Also being well rounded is a plus and allows much more room for a society to evolve. History can only verfiy this. Regards, Steve
Ugh I can't stand coins... they are heavy, don't fold and clink and clang in your pocket whenver you walk. They are just not comfortable and people can always tell if you have alot of money on you or not. I'm not even that fond of cash anymore, is there anywhere really that doesn't except credit cards anymore? I haven't seen such a place in years, at least not in my city. Regards, Steve
That isn't how many people are running it, it's how many people clicked the link or visited distrowatch's page describing ubuntu. This just means that people have been reading about ubuntu (which makes sense considering all the press it's been getting). According to Netcraft, the two fastest growing distros are Fedora and Gentoo. In the past 6 months Fedora has grown 122% from 182,421 to 405,682 servers and Gentoo has grown 45% from 43,525 to 63,160. Red Hat still has market lead with 1,610,427 servers and Debian is in 2nd with 791,086 (I believe that includes all debian based distros as well). Regards, Steve
The idea is to be able to implement this freely without restrictions using commonly known algorithms. If the euro patents don't go through then all will be fine, otherwise we're screwed. What they are doing now is coding because they like to and giving it away for free. They have no intention of making money off of it, and they shouldn't have to. Software patents need to be otulawed and it doesn't get any simpler then that. Don't tryto justify what is happening by saying that we should all just pay a little bit. Regards, Steve
Corporations have a lot of custom software. I know that even in a small law firm that I used to work for (about 25 people), we couldn't install Service Pack 2 simply because our core software wasn't compatible. MS only lists commercial software (obviously) but I've come across a ton of custom apps and older shareware and stuff that is less popular that breaks in many ways under SP2. It's not FUD, you jsut aren't in a situation to experience it. For home users, there really isn't any excuse not to install it (in most cases) and I highly recommend it, but for businesses its a different story. Regards, Steve
Almost an accurate point, but last time I checked, Red Hat is a ton cheaper then Windows. Red Hat's entry level enterprise server is $349 a year, Window's standard server is $899 and their enterprise edition with 25 CALs goes for around $3,500. Please correct me if I'm wrong on the windows pricing as I don't follow it too closely. In addition to that, Microsoft's support costs for over the telephone support is $245 per call or $1,255 for 5 calls. Red Hat comes with 24/7 support, in fact the support is what you are paying for (Red Hat's support is also one of the best in the industry imho). With these numbers, you can run Red Hat for at least 2.5 years with 24/7 support and still save money on Windows Standard Server (even if you make no support calls to MS), or you can run Red Hat for 10 years before it costs as much as MS's enterprise server (even if you bump up to Red Hat's next level, you still get over 4 maybe 5 years of 24/7 support before you hit the cost of MS without *any* support). Can you honestly tell me that it isn't a sweet deal? In addition, you constantly get all kinds of updates for thousands of applications and support for those applications. MS will support much less for much more money. This is why MS would never ever claim that they are cheaper right off the bat, but rather try to argue over the long run they are cheaper after considering costs of admins and stuff (which I believe is all false, but thats beside the point). And before the distro flames start, Novell's support offerings also start at $349, just like Red Hat, and iirc they go up as high $20,000 for certain platforms/OS's. I'll admit that I'm a huge fan of Red Hat and I find them highly dependable. They certainly made a marketing mistake a year or two ago, but I've looked over it simply because of everything else they've provided for me. Regards, Steve
Err last time I checked my life, liberties, and freedom haven't been noticeably affected at all in at least 20 years. Seriously, if people just live life and don't do stupid things and act with a bit of common sense they'll be okay. I'm not saying congress has never screwed up, but I am saying that it's been alot worse and it still is alot worse on other areas of the world. Be grateful, if anything gets too out of hand people will notice and take charge. Honestly, all this legislation people complain about will never ever affect them. Regards, Steve
How many companies would stick with windows if all updates, etc... were cut off from them? The viruses etc.. would become ridiculusly out of hand. Windows would become unsupportable. I think you underestimate what would happen. Regards, Steve
They'd rather lose EU for a few years then lose the world market by destroying their main source of income and power. IBM has done this in markets before, as have many big companies. If you don't play how a company wants to play then they are more then free to walk out. I assure you that Microsoft leaving wouldn't be half as bad as for MS as it would be for many indie developers, as well as larger software companies, losing tons of business or going out of business that rely on their software. MS losing 25 billion a year isn't half as bad as forcing every company to fire its current IT staff, buy all new software, train employees on said software and have any custom applications recoded for whatever the new platform is. Plus many more hidden costs. We aren't just talking about 25 billion here, we are talking money on the order of 500 billion to a trillion or so (possibly even more). Putting a good percentage of EU out of work, while also inconviencing the hell out many powerful people would most likely get MS whatever they want. The EU would have to ask MS to come back to market or the EU would face a ridiculously horrible depression. You can't just retrain and redesign an entire workforce, industry , and every industry affected by the previous industry overnight. Regards, Steve
Sorry to reply twice, but it's also worth noting that some of Fedora's own servers run CentOS as well. Red Hat has nothing against CentOS. Regards, Steve
Once again they are not bullying. Red Hat is a trademark and they have to protect that. If you saw prior versions of the CentOS site you would have seen Red Hat in many places on the front page along with Red Hat security updates etc... iirc. To anyone who knows what is going on, they'd understand. For someone who has only ever known windows, it could be confusing (i.e. Thinking that if project A is using stuff from project B they must have either paid Red Hat for it or are a part of Red Hat,not everyone understands open source). CentOS also (I have not confirmed this) apparently linked to Red Hat documents that were loaded in frames that looked like they could be mistaken as originating from CentOS. Red Hat isn't going against the GPL, anyone can grab the source and many do. This issue has nothing to do at all with open source, only trademarks. Red Hat's own engineers spend time helping CentOS and if you follow Red Hat's mailing list you'll see that RHEL engineers often recommend CentOS to people who can't afford a Red Hat license. There is no bullying going on, it is overzealous lawyers such as you that are bringing this country lower then its ever been. Everyone is way too litigous and you making outrageous claims like you'd take them down in court is absolutely ridiculous. Red Hat did nothing wrong and followed the law and all lcienses precisely. Regards, Steve
No, actually it sees which parts of code are used more often then others and dynamically changes it's bytecode to optimize for the most reoccuring situations. If you start a server and measure performance after an hour, it'll (99% of the time) be faster a week later. Regards, Steve
Thats all well and good until your clients reach 4 digits, maybe even 3 digits. Java is also quite fast and makes an excellent server platform. It is constantly optimizing its own code on the fly, how cool is that? It is also purposely verbose as it makes large projects involving many members in different teams easier. Comments are sure nice, but in the end the code does the talking. So many ignorant people that have never been involved in enterprise really need to read up. Regards, Steve
In addition to that, how well does the ruby implementation scale? My understanding is that a good J2EE implementation is capable of scaling to thousands of clients (one article I read claimed a 250,000 client load), the ruby implementation might start crawling after as little as 50 clients. Turning up a page 125ms faster is more or less meaningless when you can't reach most of your potential customers, and more importantly, after a few start visiting it gets slower and slower. So I'm curious to see what kind of extensive laod testing he did for both implementations. Other important things to consider are how complex his needs are compared to an enterprise and how extensible both implementations are. How exactly did this Joe Schmoe get on the front page of slashdot? Regards, Steve
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You see though, DirecTV implemented it to stop people pirating their signal, not redistributing the content gotten by the signal. If a buy a DVD and can't crack it easily, I'll just take the next easy route and loop the video into my computer. Sure it won't be automatic and any interactive menu's etc would be lost, but most are only interested in the movie anyway. I think this will be cracked over and over again though, you can't enforce client side encryption on millinons of players without the key getting out millions of times. This kind of crazy stuff relies on you never being able to find the key despite it being in your possession.
Regards,
Steve
Keep in mind that the Fedora update utility is updating up to 10,000 applications, not just core system software like MS's update utility, so expect some increased complexity (although once you set up your ignore list, its usually just as easy as clicking "select all", click next, click next, all done and updated). Using the ignore funtionality works great for me under FC3 so I'm not too sure what you are referring to as far as problems go. Maybe if you supply more information someone can help you, or go to #fedora on irc.freenode.net and someone there is always willing to help. On a side note, if you are a noob you most likely dont want to be disabling any updates. Fedora by default puts new kernels on your ignore list but other then that, updating is usually a good thing (If you used something like debian testing or unstable prior to fedora I can see the basis for your paranoia as I still have one server left running debian testing and updating breaks it monthly at a minimum, but the situation is completely different in fedora and I have yet to see anything similar happen).
Regards,
Steve
From what I've read it limits the user to 3 visible applications (i.e. ones that they can interact with). In this case, limiting it is very easy, just wait until the desktop has 3 top-level windows (those windows can obviously have children of their own) so the parent-child relationship only needs to be enforced at one high level in the tree. At the point of 3 windows, the operating system just kills any process trying to create a new window. I can already think of a few hacks around this but the thing is, the people buying this most likely won't be the type to hack at things and if they were willing to hack the OS a little here and there, they'd most likely be more then willing to just download the damn full version.
Regards,
Steve
Most universities just automatically route traffic between universities over I2 and the student never really knows or does anything to make it do that. In addition, I2 has a ton of friggin bandwidth and it is no where near sweating, its infastructure is significantly more advanced then the public internet's and this private I2 has far less users. A more advanced infastructure + less users = crazy ass speed for anything you want to do. Tranferring a few dvds is no big deal. Regardless, isn't this a good lesson in network theory? Perhaps swarming too and other computer science related fields :) I don't know if you've ever used I2, but I use it daily and for research related purposes and it more then suffices any of me or my colleagues needs.
Regards,
Steve
Yes I understand this, and if it was something as stupid as [insert some unknown distro] has grown from 1 user to 6 users then I wouldn't have mentioned it. The parent to my post was claiming that Red Hat no longer had a viable free alternative, if that was the case then noone would be using Fedora. Red Hat lost at most 19,900 users, assuming all of them switched over to Fedora then RH/FC still has a net gain of 223,261 *new* users that had not previously been running any Red Hat product. I was simply telling the parent how wrong he was, I can't stand when people spread blatant misinformation. Just FYI, Debian gained 97,145 servers, Suse 43,877, Gentoo 19,635, and Mandrake 10,487. Regardless of what numbers you choose to look at (growth rates or actual figures of new servers) the Fedora numbers are impressive and significantly better then the other distros, all in under 2 years. This, in my humble oppinion, says something about the quality of the distro. But I didn't even intend to take this thread this deep, I just wanted to shut up the parent that I had previosuly responded to.
Regards,
Steve
Really? Because I see a huge need in the enterprise arena for some sophisticated permissions in firefox along with a central managemnet application for enterprises who want to deploy firefox. As long as the price is right I think it'd be huge. There are plenty of other things that I can think of that would sell well as additions to firefox's base. And as far as Open Source not being able to make any money... please go tell that to Red Hat and Novell and come back to me when your worth even just 1 thousandth what they are. I hate responding to trolls but sometimes it must be done.
Regards,
Steve
Yea, but it does say something about popularity, and look at the numbers, Fedora has nearly over taken every distro in 2 years.
Regards,
Steve
Netcraft confirms it, Red Hat's viable free linux distro is kicking everyone else's ass in growth rate, followed only by Gentoo who is growing 3 times slower but still 2nd place. (Just FYI, the debian category as I understand it includes all direct deriviatives too).
Regards,
Steve
Finding a job is pretty easy in this field, you either aren't looking hard enough, don't have the skill set that you think you have, or are just unlucky as hell. I'm a college student in my 3rd year of a 5 year degree and I've got 6 offers all over $40,000 a year for my internships and continuation afterwards part time with a job offer when I graduate as well. This is on the east coast, and yes I know its not the most money in the world, but for a college student its pretty good.
Regards,
Steve
He was most likely asked or forced to sign some form of Non-disclosure agreement. This is even more likely if lawyers were or are involved (in which we'd have no way of knowing if all involved parties keep silent).
Regards,
Steve
Err what you describe as far as education levels go is pretty standard, at least on the east coast in the US. The only thing is, people have a hell of alot more freedom, and a hell of alot more oppurtunities. Being in such a rigid society as you describe would be horrific and you claim that intelligence is more or less all you need to get by. In reality you need to have good business sense, people skills, and foresight. These are things you can't teach and for the most part must come by natural means. There are also many others things that school just can't do you for you, including alot of the theory you learn in school, while it is interesting, you won't ever use 90% of it. There are many reasons why that system fails. Intelligence is extremely important, but it is not the end all be all, especially when you define intelligence in how many theories you know in various sciences. There is alot more to being successful and the natural system that the US and England tend to follow is way better. Also being well rounded is a plus and allows much more room for a society to evolve. History can only verfiy this.
Regards,
Steve
Ugh I can't stand coins... they are heavy, don't fold and clink and clang in your pocket whenver you walk. They are just not comfortable and people can always tell if you have alot of money on you or not. I'm not even that fond of cash anymore, is there anywhere really that doesn't except credit cards anymore? I haven't seen such a place in years, at least not in my city.
Regards,
Steve
Maybe thats because MS hired many of the core engineers for VMS :)
Regards,
Steve
That isn't how many people are running it, it's how many people clicked the link or visited distrowatch's page describing ubuntu. This just means that people have been reading about ubuntu (which makes sense considering all the press it's been getting). According to Netcraft, the two fastest growing distros are Fedora and Gentoo. In the past 6 months Fedora has grown 122% from 182,421 to 405,682 servers and Gentoo has grown 45% from 43,525 to 63,160. Red Hat still has market lead with 1,610,427 servers and Debian is in 2nd with 791,086 (I believe that includes all debian based distros as well).
Regards,
Steve
The idea is to be able to implement this freely without restrictions using commonly known algorithms. If the euro patents don't go through then all will be fine, otherwise we're screwed. What they are doing now is coding because they like to and giving it away for free. They have no intention of making money off of it, and they shouldn't have to. Software patents need to be otulawed and it doesn't get any simpler then that. Don't tryto justify what is happening by saying that we should all just pay a little bit.
Regards,
Steve
Corporations have a lot of custom software. I know that even in a small law firm that I used to work for (about 25 people), we couldn't install Service Pack 2 simply because our core software wasn't compatible. MS only lists commercial software (obviously) but I've come across a ton of custom apps and older shareware and stuff that is less popular that breaks in many ways under SP2. It's not FUD, you jsut aren't in a situation to experience it. For home users, there really isn't any excuse not to install it (in most cases) and I highly recommend it, but for businesses its a different story.
Regards,
Steve
Almost an accurate point, but last time I checked, Red Hat is a ton cheaper then Windows. Red Hat's entry level enterprise server is $349 a year, Window's standard server is $899 and their enterprise edition with 25 CALs goes for around $3,500. Please correct me if I'm wrong on the windows pricing as I don't follow it too closely. In addition to that, Microsoft's support costs for over the telephone support is $245 per call or $1,255 for 5 calls. Red Hat comes with 24/7 support, in fact the support is what you are paying for (Red Hat's support is also one of the best in the industry imho). With these numbers, you can run Red Hat for at least 2.5 years with 24/7 support and still save money on Windows Standard Server (even if you make no support calls to MS), or you can run Red Hat for 10 years before it costs as much as MS's enterprise server (even if you bump up to Red Hat's next level, you still get over 4 maybe 5 years of 24/7 support before you hit the cost of MS without *any* support). Can you honestly tell me that it isn't a sweet deal? In addition, you constantly get all kinds of updates for thousands of applications and support for those applications. MS will support much less for much more money. This is why MS would never ever claim that they are cheaper right off the bat, but rather try to argue over the long run they are cheaper after considering costs of admins and stuff (which I believe is all false, but thats beside the point). And before the distro flames start, Novell's support offerings also start at $349, just like Red Hat, and iirc they go up as high $20,000 for certain platforms/OS's. I'll admit that I'm a huge fan of Red Hat and I find them highly dependable. They certainly made a marketing mistake a year or two ago, but I've looked over it simply because of everything else they've provided for me.
Regards,
Steve
Err last time I checked my life, liberties, and freedom haven't been noticeably affected at all in at least 20 years. Seriously, if people just live life and don't do stupid things and act with a bit of common sense they'll be okay. I'm not saying congress has never screwed up, but I am saying that it's been alot worse and it still is alot worse on other areas of the world. Be grateful, if anything gets too out of hand people will notice and take charge. Honestly, all this legislation people complain about will never ever affect them.
Regards,
Steve
How many companies would stick with windows if all updates, etc... were cut off from them? The viruses etc.. would become ridiculusly out of hand. Windows would become unsupportable. I think you underestimate what would happen.
Regards,
Steve
They'd rather lose EU for a few years then lose the world market by destroying their main source of income and power. IBM has done this in markets before, as have many big companies. If you don't play how a company wants to play then they are more then free to walk out. I assure you that Microsoft leaving wouldn't be half as bad as for MS as it would be for many indie developers, as well as larger software companies, losing tons of business or going out of business that rely on their software. MS losing 25 billion a year isn't half as bad as forcing every company to fire its current IT staff, buy all new software, train employees on said software and have any custom applications recoded for whatever the new platform is. Plus many more hidden costs. We aren't just talking about 25 billion here, we are talking money on the order of 500 billion to a trillion or so (possibly even more). Putting a good percentage of EU out of work, while also inconviencing the hell out many powerful people would most likely get MS whatever they want. The EU would have to ask MS to come back to market or the EU would face a ridiculously horrible depression. You can't just retrain and redesign an entire workforce, industry , and every industry affected by the previous industry overnight.
Regards,
Steve
Sorry to reply twice, but it's also worth noting that some of Fedora's own servers run CentOS as well. Red Hat has nothing against CentOS.
Regards,
Steve
Once again they are not bullying. Red Hat is a trademark and they have to protect that. If you saw prior versions of the CentOS site you would have seen Red Hat in many places on the front page along with Red Hat security updates etc... iirc. To anyone who knows what is going on, they'd understand. For someone who has only ever known windows, it could be confusing (i.e. Thinking that if project A is using stuff from project B they must have either paid Red Hat for it or are a part of Red Hat,not everyone understands open source). CentOS also (I have not confirmed this) apparently linked to Red Hat documents that were loaded in frames that looked like they could be mistaken as originating from CentOS. Red Hat isn't going against the GPL, anyone can grab the source and many do. This issue has nothing to do at all with open source, only trademarks. Red Hat's own engineers spend time helping CentOS and if you follow Red Hat's mailing list you'll see that RHEL engineers often recommend CentOS to people who can't afford a Red Hat license. There is no bullying going on, it is overzealous lawyers such as you that are bringing this country lower then its ever been. Everyone is way too litigous and you making outrageous claims like you'd take them down in court is absolutely ridiculous. Red Hat did nothing wrong and followed the law and all lcienses precisely.
Regards,
Steve
No, actually it sees which parts of code are used more often then others and dynamically changes it's bytecode to optimize for the most reoccuring situations. If you start a server and measure performance after an hour, it'll (99% of the time) be faster a week later.
Regards,
Steve
Thats all well and good until your clients reach 4 digits, maybe even 3 digits. Java is also quite fast and makes an excellent server platform. It is constantly optimizing its own code on the fly, how cool is that? It is also purposely verbose as it makes large projects involving many members in different teams easier. Comments are sure nice, but in the end the code does the talking. So many ignorant people that have never been involved in enterprise really need to read up.
Regards,
Steve
In addition to that, how well does the ruby implementation scale? My understanding is that a good J2EE implementation is capable of scaling to thousands of clients (one article I read claimed a 250,000 client load), the ruby implementation might start crawling after as little as 50 clients. Turning up a page 125ms faster is more or less meaningless when you can't reach most of your potential customers, and more importantly, after a few start visiting it gets slower and slower. So I'm curious to see what kind of extensive laod testing he did for both implementations. Other important things to consider are how complex his needs are compared to an enterprise and how extensible both implementations are. How exactly did this Joe Schmoe get on the front page of slashdot?
Regards,
Steve