AOL was blocked from 1 spam email coming from a server. RTFA. That is ridiculous. AOL is one of the few ISPs that is active against spam and is very progressive in the field. They don't send out any spam, dont let their customers, etc... If you get caught sending spam on purpose you'll never be a customer again. If you're infected, AOL's outbound spam filters will 99.9% of the time stop it. Yes that is right, AOL scans inbound and outbound during a service for the internet. People bitch and moan when they get black listed, well don't send email that users might not want or interpret as spam. AOL listens to their customers, if the customer says its spam, then its spam regardless of what you say. Regards, Steve
But the nice thing with spreadsheets is that a correction to a flaw also instantly propagates through everything and you can more or less instantly fix any errors that there were rather then going through thousands of hand written sheets checking row by row and changing things by hand. There is always a chance for error in anything, the important part is how quickly you can correct those issues and in the end how much you can limit the total impact of such flaws. Regards, Steve
Thanks for all the great products you guys make! Ignore the unconstrictive criticism on Slashdot, alot of these folks haven't used the product in quite some time. I really appreciate it all and am currently playing around with helix server to set up a small stream from my dsl connection. Although documentation (or a nice gui for linux) could be a bit a better for noobs like myself;) or maybe i'm just looking in the wrong places. Regards, Steve
Dunno about you but seems like more and more these two companies are copying more from OSS, although thats not necessarily a bad thing.gDesklets are nearly the exact same thing that you're talking about with dashboard but the difference is that these have been around since August 2003, and I believe SuperKaramba was around even longer then that for KDE. As far as the other stuff goes, the OSS world has Beagle for searching (thanks Nat), alot of our lives involve scripting and recently its been integrated into desktop envrionments too instead of just cli. Equivalents for everything else too, and my god how long has full 64-bit support been avaible? Both microsoft and apple should be ashamed of themselves. They have paid developers working on this stuff all day long and still can't readily outpace OSS. Regards, Steve
Noone here seems to get it. The United States is a big rich target that alot of poorer countries are "jealous" of and blame for their problems. The President and his aides get hundreds of similar memos a month, before and after 09/11/01. The US is always being threatened by some terrorist whether he is already well known or wants to become famous. You see this one memo and think its obvious, but this one memo out of thousands is nothing but noise until there is a near certainty that it will happen. Not too mention, everyone as far back as Clinton had kept being told that Bin Laden was goign to attack. When you're told something is going to happen eventually sometime in the future but aren't given any specifics and you just keep getting this repeated to you for 8 years or whatever and then passed on to the next president, it kind of desensitizes you. Regardless, noone accounts for the many terrorists operations that have been stopped by US forces, terrorists have been killed and arrested all the time, even before 9/11. One incident out off tens of thousands slipped through. Stop bitching. Yes it was bad, but the fact that it could have been worse and the situation was handeled pretty well should give us something to be grateful for. Regards, Steve
If you want to replace Oracle, another post recommended Postgres, I am recommending Ingres. Ingres and Postgres come from similar lineage except Ingres was comercial, built up to be extremely robust and for many years was Oracle's biggest competition and even today still has more databases deployed then all open source databases together (or so claimed one review I read while researching database alternatives myself). Once CA bought Ingres, development slowed down greatly after 1994, however a decade later they released it as open source, and over the past year new life has been breathed into it. It is still the closest open source databse you'll get compared to Oracle. In fact, in many regards it is better. The one down fall is documentation, but you can always buy support from CA. In all honesty though, if Oracle does what you want, why not keep it? Sure its expensive, but its worth it and very capable. If you arent using it to its full potential then switch, otherwise keep it. Your money is better in Larry Ellis's pockets then in Bill Gate's. Regards, Steve
You can also easily expand Firefox's functionality. You've obviously not used it extensivley enough to comment on it, or at least not recently. I've used both browsers pretty extensively when evaluating which one our firm would migrate too. I chose Firefox for a number of reasons including its stability and simplicity. Opera is nice but its for a completely different kind of user that has its own niche market. A "newbie" would get lost in Opera very quickly. Regards, Steve
Err actually firefox devotes more screen space to viewing web pages then any other browser. Opera clutters it up with ads and a whole bunch of functionality and buttons that I'll never use or need in a web browser. Opera loads faster, but I do believe firefox is more responsive once it loads. The best thing about firefox is its simplicity, I'm looking at 5 buttons right now (Back, Foward, Reload, Stop, Home) and that's all I should ever have to look at. Regards, Steve
Two suggestions, switch to a different file format, or give OpenOffice.Org 2.0 a shot when it is officially released. The enw support for MS Office really is damn near perfect or at least thats what my experience with teh beta has shown:) Regards, Steve
Maybe I'm just ignorant but I haven't the slightest clue what you are talking about? The closest thing I can think of was the temporary ban on cow products because of mad cow disease. But timber? Whats going on with that? Is timber even a big industry anymore? Everything is steel, even wall studs are aluminum now a days, what could possibly be wrong here? I'm not trying to start a flame, I'm genuinely interested in how we are screwing up your industries because I have an interest in not contributing to the downfall of anyone's job or how they provide support for their family. Regards, steve
Just some business advice, lower your damn prices. Just curious how your business is doing? Your selling customers Debian (stable I suppose), how do they respond to it? Regardless, those prices are way too high especially considering the OS is free. I thought it was a sweet deal at first when I thought the monitors came with it, but anyone buying off you is getting ripped off majorly. For about 50%-60% of what your charging I could build a system with equal or greater specs in a much smaller box, or just take the easy way out and just buy a mac mini, double the ram, and use it as a server for thin clients. Seems to me that your misleading your customers, on the front page you claim they can play 3d games together which to me implies full fledged modern day 3d games at high resolutions and fast gameplay and I know there is no way your achieving that. The systems are under powered, over priced, and the network latency for the thin client would make it a bitch to play. Regards, Steve
Considering that we import enough goods that their value is more then most countries make in a year I would stop talking about us not participating in free trade. We keep alot of other economies moving so count your blessings and stop complaining because we're not giving you everything you want. We do a hell of alot more for the world then any other country but all we do is get bitched at, what a bunch of ungrateful people. All you do is look at some of the mistakes that the government has made, yet you fail to even begin discussing the many benefits that we bring to Canada and how we are constantly helping them out. Yes its a mutual thing, you scratch our back, we scratch yours. If your country every needed anything or was attacked, we'd be the first to step up to your defense. Hell I've been to Canada, I love the place, have friends there, but am American. If you guys were ever attacked and the US got into it I'd sign up. Your our neighbor and we shouldnt be fighting, but rather working together. Hell, the 3 of us (Mexico too) control a whole continent, thats pretty awesome if you ask me. Regards, Steve
Once your in a box there is *not* always a way to gain root and the fact that you've been desensitized enough to say that with a straight face scares me. In linux with proper security it is damn near impossible if you use the tools at your disposal properly.
Certain things you can do include but are not limited to setting all privileges with the least amount of privileges necessary (This can be effectivley achieved using traditional octal perms or Access Control Lists which have full support in 2.6.x kernels for ext2, ext3, xfs, jfs and patches for reiser). You can use SE-Linux and considering its level of maturity there are few reasons why every good linux user shouldn't learn the ins and outs of it. Discretionary Access Control is nice, but the Mandatory Access Control implemented through SE-Linux is amazing. SE-Linux is very powerful so I would be careful and make sure you read up on it first, you can easily lock yourself out of your own box even if your root (and yes SE-Linux can control everything on your system from files to devices, processes and beyond in a very fine grained system capable of restraining anything you want in anyway you want from anyone including root).
You can also mount home directories as non-executable. There are many additional things you can do and other security patches for the kernel too that can be applied, but the above list should be more then enough assuming you run all services intelligently and follow strictly to the least privileges ideal. Now some of this may sound a bit complicated but I assure you its not and as of Fedora Core 2 and now Core 3 everything listed above is part of the distribution and nearly everything (including SE-Linux policies) are already set up for you. The only thing you might need to do is tighten it up a bit more for your personal needs and if you really feel the need, install any additional kernel security patches that you may like. As I understand it, a few distros come with functionality similar to the things listed above and not just Fedora. The thing I like about Fedora is how serious they take security and how promptly they respond to security issues. Also by default, Fedora has things like exec shield enabled and the memory mappings of major services are randomized so even if an exploit is exploited, it would be extremely hard if not impossible for the attacker to know what memory he is dealing with, essentially making the exploit useless.
One reaso this works so well is the following. Assume you run some service with an exploit, assume that the randomized memory somehow doesnt stop the attacker, assume they can run arbitrary code on your system... oh wait they just got past your firewall and memory randomization but SE-Linux says the user running the service isn't allowed to run anyother process or access anyother directories other then one you specified which you may have also even made read only. The worst the attacker can do from the outside is read data and *maybe* write to it if you did give the user perms to write to it and the attacker somehow manipualted the service to write over it rather then starting a new process. Regardless, no way to gain root. Assume you have a guy on the inside with a shell account, oh wait you've mounted his home as non-executable so he has to find some tricky way to use an already exisiting program to do his dirty work. The second he tries to do anything outside of his "domain" that had been granted to him by SE-Linux (assuming traditional octal perms already didn't stop him), he'll be stopped anyway and the administrator can even be emailed if you want (I've heard you can set it up to do that but I've never done it myself, just writing a disclaimer) Regardless, SE-Linux implements security in such a way that it would see where the process originated from and stop the attacker right there. As you can see it would be very hard, if not impossible, for someone to gain root access depending upon how strict you set up perms. This is of course just one scenario meant to demonstrate the point.
The weakest link in the chain is by far the human factor as always.
Regards, Steve
You are correct to an extent, however one of the main things worth pointing out from those pages is how IE still has several vulnerabilities that allow system access where as Firefox currently has no known vulnerabilities that are that severe. IE has has had vulnerabilities like that for quite for quite some time and for some reason one or two keep going unpatched month after month. All software will have bugs, so responsiveness is what matters and responsiveness is something that IE lacks. Regards, Steve
This says it all. Not only has Firefox had 1/7 the vulnerabilities of IE, but those that it did have were patched quicker and were of less severity in most cases. Regards, Steve
Well considering the levels of encryption that al-Qaeda and North Korea use and the number of laptops that are found in many terrorist hiding areas or even in the place where the terrorists responsible for 9/11 resided, I wouldn't scoff at the value of having access to their networks. It is a known fact that terrorists use PGP encryption and it's creator has written a few times about his feelings on this and distributing it for free. In the end he has always, thankfully, decided that freedom for our privacy outweighs any evil intentions that others may have. (That is an extremely rough paraphrase) Regards, Steve
ACL's are way overrated, but regardless have been available for linux for quit some time. I've used them before in Fedora and here is a nice tutorial on how to do so. The tutorial is for FC2 but works similarly for Fedora Core 3 too. Have fun. (use ext2, ext3, xfs, or jfs filesystems for ACL) Regards, Steve
Yes, one interesting thing about the Gospel of Thomas is that he portrayed Jesus as abusing his powers around the age of 13. His texts are one of the few that describe Jesus's middle child hood and teen years. The Church refuses to view them as authoritave which only appears to stem from tradition centuries old. The Church wants to mislead its followers into believing that Jesus never did any wrong as such. This is often associated with the Church's desire to control its followers. If such information became widely accepted, people might start justifying doing certain things simply because Jesus did it too and the church wants Christ to be seen in a certain light that isn't necessarily the correct light. Jesus was, according to the scripture, part human so it seems totally reasonable to me that he would misuse his powers in his teen years, but the church disagrees. I'm a Roman Catholic and actively participate in my faith, but I know when the Church is trying to bullshit me and everynow and then I'll look into the many ways they try to do that. Moral of the story: Don't believe anything that anyone tells you, regardless of their position of authority, until you've been able to verify it yourself to some reasonable extent. Regards, Steve
Wouldn't it be easier to just put 5 little transmitters on the tips of the fingers and triangulate all fingers. It'd be much more accurate and have much less noise in the data. Some may argue that itd be too battery intensive, but there could be two solutions. A) The transmitters would be very low power because the distance needed wouldn't be very much and no intense processing would be needed on their part, they just have to send out some unique signal with time data. I know bluetooth devices now (PDAs and CellPhones) use bluetooth for hours without recharging in addition to full color screens and running a processor. This would just need the transmitter so a battery could last a very long time in addition to the distance being very short. B) Just use some kind of highly sensitive rfid technology so the gloves are "self powering" (not sure if the tech is at that stage yet). Regards, Steve
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AOL was blocked from 1 spam email coming from a server. RTFA. That is ridiculous. AOL is one of the few ISPs that is active against spam and is very progressive in the field. They don't send out any spam, dont let their customers, etc... If you get caught sending spam on purpose you'll never be a customer again. If you're infected, AOL's outbound spam filters will 99.9% of the time stop it. Yes that is right, AOL scans inbound and outbound during a service for the internet. People bitch and moan when they get black listed, well don't send email that users might not want or interpret as spam. AOL listens to their customers, if the customer says its spam, then its spam regardless of what you say.
Regards,
Steve
But the nice thing with spreadsheets is that a correction to a flaw also instantly propagates through everything and you can more or less instantly fix any errors that there were rather then going through thousands of hand written sheets checking row by row and changing things by hand. There is always a chance for error in anything, the important part is how quickly you can correct those issues and in the end how much you can limit the total impact of such flaws.
Regards,
Steve
Thanks for all the great products you guys make! Ignore the unconstrictive criticism on Slashdot, alot of these folks haven't used the product in quite some time. I really appreciate it all and am currently playing around with helix server to set up a small stream from my dsl connection. Although documentation (or a nice gui for linux) could be a bit a better for noobs like myself ;) or maybe i'm just looking in the wrong places.
Regards,
Steve
Dunno about you but seems like more and more these two companies are copying more from OSS, although thats not necessarily a bad thing.gDesklets are nearly the exact same thing that you're talking about with dashboard but the difference is that these have been around since August 2003, and I believe SuperKaramba was around even longer then that for KDE. As far as the other stuff goes, the OSS world has Beagle for searching (thanks Nat), alot of our lives involve scripting and recently its been integrated into desktop envrionments too instead of just cli. Equivalents for everything else too, and my god how long has full 64-bit support been avaible? Both microsoft and apple should be ashamed of themselves. They have paid developers working on this stuff all day long and still can't readily outpace OSS.
Regards,
Steve
Noone here seems to get it. The United States is a big rich target that alot of poorer countries are "jealous" of and blame for their problems. The President and his aides get hundreds of similar memos a month, before and after 09/11/01. The US is always being threatened by some terrorist whether he is already well known or wants to become famous. You see this one memo and think its obvious, but this one memo out of thousands is nothing but noise until there is a near certainty that it will happen. Not too mention, everyone as far back as Clinton had kept being told that Bin Laden was goign to attack. When you're told something is going to happen eventually sometime in the future but aren't given any specifics and you just keep getting this repeated to you for 8 years or whatever and then passed on to the next president, it kind of desensitizes you. Regardless, noone accounts for the many terrorists operations that have been stopped by US forces, terrorists have been killed and arrested all the time, even before 9/11. One incident out off tens of thousands slipped through. Stop bitching. Yes it was bad, but the fact that it could have been worse and the situation was handeled pretty well should give us something to be grateful for.
Regards,
Steve
If you want to replace Oracle, another post recommended Postgres, I am recommending Ingres. Ingres and Postgres come from similar lineage except Ingres was comercial, built up to be extremely robust and for many years was Oracle's biggest competition and even today still has more databases deployed then all open source databases together (or so claimed one review I read while researching database alternatives myself). Once CA bought Ingres, development slowed down greatly after 1994, however a decade later they released it as open source, and over the past year new life has been breathed into it. It is still the closest open source databse you'll get compared to Oracle. In fact, in many regards it is better. The one down fall is documentation, but you can always buy support from CA. In all honesty though, if Oracle does what you want, why not keep it? Sure its expensive, but its worth it and very capable. If you arent using it to its full potential then switch, otherwise keep it. Your money is better in Larry Ellis's pockets then in Bill Gate's.
Regards,
Steve
I guess you haven't used the 2.0 beta yet, I cannot find a problem with its .doc compatibility. Its absolutely amazing.
Regards,
Steve
Err... have you ever worked in a large company? They do it all the time, I think you give the average user too much credit.
Regards,
Steve
But would average gradma ever be using a networked printer, yet alone know it was possible?
Regards,
Steve
I believe the fault lies with Apple. They had devs working on GCC but for some reason gave up on Objective-C++ support.
Regards,
Steve
Fedora's print config utility worked great for all my printers. It took about 3 or 4 clicks and I was done.
Rgards,
Steve
Locate baby, its all about the Locate. Unix has these guys beat by years (decades?)
Regards,
Steve
You can also easily expand Firefox's functionality. You've obviously not used it extensivley enough to comment on it, or at least not recently. I've used both browsers pretty extensively when evaluating which one our firm would migrate too. I chose Firefox for a number of reasons including its stability and simplicity. Opera is nice but its for a completely different kind of user that has its own niche market. A "newbie" would get lost in Opera very quickly.
Regards,
Steve
Err actually firefox devotes more screen space to viewing web pages then any other browser. Opera clutters it up with ads and a whole bunch of functionality and buttons that I'll never use or need in a web browser. Opera loads faster, but I do believe firefox is more responsive once it loads. The best thing about firefox is its simplicity, I'm looking at 5 buttons right now (Back, Foward, Reload, Stop, Home) and that's all I should ever have to look at.
Regards,
Steve
Two suggestions, switch to a different file format, or give OpenOffice.Org 2.0 a shot when it is officially released. The enw support for MS Office really is damn near perfect or at least thats what my experience with teh beta has shown :)
Regards,
Steve
Maybe I'm just ignorant but I haven't the slightest clue what you are talking about? The closest thing I can think of was the temporary ban on cow products because of mad cow disease. But timber? Whats going on with that? Is timber even a big industry anymore? Everything is steel, even wall studs are aluminum now a days, what could possibly be wrong here? I'm not trying to start a flame, I'm genuinely interested in how we are screwing up your industries because I have an interest in not contributing to the downfall of anyone's job or how they provide support for their family.
Regards,
steve
Just some business advice, lower your damn prices. Just curious how your business is doing? Your selling customers Debian (stable I suppose), how do they respond to it? Regardless, those prices are way too high especially considering the OS is free. I thought it was a sweet deal at first when I thought the monitors came with it, but anyone buying off you is getting ripped off majorly. For about 50%-60% of what your charging I could build a system with equal or greater specs in a much smaller box, or just take the easy way out and just buy a mac mini, double the ram, and use it as a server for thin clients. Seems to me that your misleading your customers, on the front page you claim they can play 3d games together which to me implies full fledged modern day 3d games at high resolutions and fast gameplay and I know there is no way your achieving that. The systems are under powered, over priced, and the network latency for the thin client would make it a bitch to play.
Regards,
Steve
Considering that we import enough goods that their value is more then most countries make in a year I would stop talking about us not participating in free trade. We keep alot of other economies moving so count your blessings and stop complaining because we're not giving you everything you want. We do a hell of alot more for the world then any other country but all we do is get bitched at, what a bunch of ungrateful people. All you do is look at some of the mistakes that the government has made, yet you fail to even begin discussing the many benefits that we bring to Canada and how we are constantly helping them out. Yes its a mutual thing, you scratch our back, we scratch yours. If your country every needed anything or was attacked, we'd be the first to step up to your defense. Hell I've been to Canada, I love the place, have friends there, but am American. If you guys were ever attacked and the US got into it I'd sign up. Your our neighbor and we shouldnt be fighting, but rather working together. Hell, the 3 of us (Mexico too) control a whole continent, thats pretty awesome if you ask me.
Regards,
Steve
Once your in a box there is *not* always a way to gain root and the fact that you've been desensitized enough to say that with a straight face scares me. In linux with proper security it is damn near impossible if you use the tools at your disposal properly.
Certain things you can do include but are not limited to setting all privileges with the least amount of privileges necessary (This can be effectivley achieved using traditional octal perms or Access Control Lists which have full support in 2.6.x kernels for ext2, ext3, xfs, jfs and patches for reiser). You can use SE-Linux and considering its level of maturity there are few reasons why every good linux user shouldn't learn the ins and outs of it. Discretionary Access Control is nice, but the Mandatory Access Control implemented through SE-Linux is amazing. SE-Linux is very powerful so I would be careful and make sure you read up on it first, you can easily lock yourself out of your own box even if your root (and yes SE-Linux can control everything on your system from files to devices, processes and beyond in a very fine grained system capable of restraining anything you want in anyway you want from anyone including root).
You can also mount home directories as non-executable. There are many additional things you can do and other security patches for the kernel too that can be applied, but the above list should be more then enough assuming you run all services intelligently and follow strictly to the least privileges ideal. Now some of this may sound a bit complicated but I assure you its not and as of Fedora Core 2 and now Core 3 everything listed above is part of the distribution and nearly everything (including SE-Linux policies) are already set up for you. The only thing you might need to do is tighten it up a bit more for your personal needs and if you really feel the need, install any additional kernel security patches that you may like. As I understand it, a few distros come with functionality similar to the things listed above and not just Fedora. The thing I like about Fedora is how serious they take security and how promptly they respond to security issues. Also by default, Fedora has things like exec shield enabled and the memory mappings of major services are randomized so even if an exploit is exploited, it would be extremely hard if not impossible for the attacker to know what memory he is dealing with, essentially making the exploit useless.
One reaso this works so well is the following. Assume you run some service with an exploit, assume that the randomized memory somehow doesnt stop the attacker, assume they can run arbitrary code on your system... oh wait they just got past your firewall and memory randomization but SE-Linux says the user running the service isn't allowed to run anyother process or access anyother directories other then one you specified which you may have also even made read only. The worst the attacker can do from the outside is read data and *maybe* write to it if you did give the user perms to write to it and the attacker somehow manipualted the service to write over it rather then starting a new process. Regardless, no way to gain root. Assume you have a guy on the inside with a shell account, oh wait you've mounted his home as non-executable so he has to find some tricky way to use an already exisiting program to do his dirty work. The second he tries to do anything outside of his "domain" that had been granted to him by SE-Linux (assuming traditional octal perms already didn't stop him), he'll be stopped anyway and the administrator can even be emailed if you want (I've heard you can set it up to do that but I've never done it myself, just writing a disclaimer) Regardless, SE-Linux implements security in such a way that it would see where the process originated from and stop the attacker right there. As you can see it would be very hard, if not impossible, for someone to gain root access depending upon how strict you set up perms. This is of course just one scenario meant to demonstrate the point.
The weakest link in the chain is by far the human factor as always.
Regards,
Steve
You are correct to an extent, however one of the main things worth pointing out from those pages is how IE still has several vulnerabilities that allow system access where as Firefox currently has no known vulnerabilities that are that severe. IE has has had vulnerabilities like that for quite for quite some time and for some reason one or two keep going unpatched month after month. All software will have bugs, so responsiveness is what matters and responsiveness is something that IE lacks.
Regards,
Steve
This says it all. Not only has Firefox had 1/7 the vulnerabilities of IE, but those that it did have were patched quicker and were of less severity in most cases.
Regards,
Steve
Well considering the levels of encryption that al-Qaeda and North Korea use and the number of laptops that are found in many terrorist hiding areas or even in the place where the terrorists responsible for 9/11 resided, I wouldn't scoff at the value of having access to their networks. It is a known fact that terrorists use PGP encryption and it's creator has written a few times about his feelings on this and distributing it for free. In the end he has always, thankfully, decided that freedom for our privacy outweighs any evil intentions that others may have. (That is an extremely rough paraphrase)
Regards,
Steve
ACL's are way overrated, but regardless have been available for linux for quit some time. I've used them before in Fedora and here is a nice tutorial on how to do so. The tutorial is for FC2 but works similarly for Fedora Core 3 too. Have fun. (use ext2, ext3, xfs, or jfs filesystems for ACL)
Regards,
Steve
Yes, one interesting thing about the Gospel of Thomas is that he portrayed Jesus as abusing his powers around the age of 13. His texts are one of the few that describe Jesus's middle child hood and teen years. The Church refuses to view them as authoritave which only appears to stem from tradition centuries old. The Church wants to mislead its followers into believing that Jesus never did any wrong as such. This is often associated with the Church's desire to control its followers. If such information became widely accepted, people might start justifying doing certain things simply because Jesus did it too and the church wants Christ to be seen in a certain light that isn't necessarily the correct light. Jesus was, according to the scripture, part human so it seems totally reasonable to me that he would misuse his powers in his teen years, but the church disagrees. I'm a Roman Catholic and actively participate in my faith, but I know when the Church is trying to bullshit me and everynow and then I'll look into the many ways they try to do that. Moral of the story: Don't believe anything that anyone tells you, regardless of their position of authority, until you've been able to verify it yourself to some reasonable extent.
Regards,
Steve
Wouldn't it be easier to just put 5 little transmitters on the tips of the fingers and triangulate all fingers. It'd be much more accurate and have much less noise in the data. Some may argue that itd be too battery intensive, but there could be two solutions. A) The transmitters would be very low power because the distance needed wouldn't be very much and no intense processing would be needed on their part, they just have to send out some unique signal with time data. I know bluetooth devices now (PDAs and CellPhones) use bluetooth for hours without recharging in addition to full color screens and running a processor. This would just need the transmitter so a battery could last a very long time in addition to the distance being very short. B) Just use some kind of highly sensitive rfid technology so the gloves are "self powering" (not sure if the tech is at that stage yet).
Regards,
Steve