Yeah, this is really a *poll*, not a survey, and, as evidenced by the Yoper stats, is very easily corrupted and skewed. And it isn't a poll of all Linux users (I didn't get an e-mail asking for participation...), it is a poll of this websites users. Sorry, worse than valueless, it is not what it purports to be. Love to have more statistically powerful data along the same lines, tho!
Or, perhaps, it is not so sumple. Perhaps it is more a problem of education. Had you known that proper wiki-based research should include not only viewing the articles on the topics you seek, but also a glance at the recent history of the page, and the Talk pages, to see how many "eyeballs" have seen the page, and if there are any recent questionable edits. Unlike a book encyclopedia, a Wiki is a two-way medium, and you can't ignore that fact and try to treat it like other one-way media.
Well, that was their mistake for asking for surly leeches like you to join their community. Do you know how many man-hours it takes to build something with even half the capabilities of software like the GIMP? You paid a small amount of money to have a truckload of software given to you in digestible morsels (i.e. your for-profit distro). That's all you paid for.
But hey, if you want to help and not just bitch, dive in! Lose the "entitled" attitude, tho.
How do you _know_ that people aren't "dragged off in the dead of night"? In a country of over 1 billion people, how do you know that? In a country that spans 5 time zones, how do you know that? In a country that routinely censors its press, how do *you* know that?
And, besides, why do they have to "drag them off in the dead of night" when there is no law stopping them from doing it at noon on a sunny Sunday?
but I only trash these things when doing so will accomplish a measureable objective. I'm also one of the few retards who dares to run NTS4 without a firewall - I've got one that's a quad-homed box, hosting two T1s and a DS3. No firewalls, just straight from the NICs into Adtrans etc. I put it on the line back in mid '99, and to date it has yet to be compromised or faulted, despite hosting both IIS4 and Exch55, and running some rather unique and complex software in each.
That you know of, you mean.
Why the f*** would I want to swap that out... well, a Linux solution aside, why *else* would I want to swap that out... no "current" MS product is going to do any better than what I've got now, and in fact will probably do worse. Much worse.
I don't repaint my car every year, I don't replace the doors on my house every year, I don't buy a new bed every f*ing year, and I don't toss a solution that will continue working perfectly unless there's a damned good reason. "New screensavers" and "wizards" doesn't cut it.
But what about new security fixes? I know that M$ actually screwed up some of the security patches for NT 4.0 where they were made to be "universal" but only really worked on Win2K and above.
I admire your conservative approach to administration, but not to security updates. NT 4.0 is too old and poorly maintained to be safe. Most of the engineers that worked on NT 4.0 have looong moved on to greener pastures, so I haven't trusted Microsoft to give good patches to NT 4.0 for many many years. There are even security holes in some subcomponents of the OS that they refuse to fix in NT 4.0 - saying the fix is to upgrade to Win2K. Good luck with that box.
Hey, what a bait and switch this is! The remote control problem was funny, yes, but the BSOD that happend during the game demo - THAT'S what I want to see "explained"! I can't believe that either a) this guy just "failed to mention it" or b) the Slashdot editor didn't tone down the exhberance in the headline. The headline should have been "One of Two glitches at MS CES Demo Explained" or something similar. Sheesh.
If they ran "fine for me right out of the box", as your say, then you probably were not asking too much out of them. You probably didn't care too much about stability, uptime, or security. But, hey, everyone has their standards. I can't imagine that you were using them to support more than a SOHO, because each of them were plagued with major issues for large deployments until several service packs of fixes. And that's just for the clients...
As the original inventor, Onion Networks, Inc. holds a strong intellectual property position in Swarming and Swarmstreaming(TM) through multiple pending patents.
Shield your eyes if you want to make a GPL'd interoperable client (or similar service). This stuff looks like "poison" for those who work within the Free Software community. Let these folks charge their $25K for their SDK and such. All 10 customers will be very happy, I'm sure.
Um, that's the wrong Senate bill. The Senate bill is still known by it's house bill number (HR 2391 SR). Search on THOMAS for "Cooperative Research and Technology Enhancement". I believe the query result is sorted by date. For me, the relevant result is this:
"8. Cooperative Research and Technology Enhancement (CREATE) Act of 2004 (Reported in Senate)[H.R.2391.RS]"
Hi all. Was lucky enough to get on KGO (810 AM) in San Francisco. The host, Ronn Owens, is a big Tivo fan, so I figured he needed to know about this. I told him that this bill would make commercial skipping illegal. He initially thought I was spreading an urban legend, but he now has his staff investigating this. He tried to get a legislator on the phone, but didn't succeed. He may have one on tomorrow (hopefully not too late). So, in addition to calling my Senators' DC offices, that's my work for today. I was sad that as his show ended he was still thinking that this only applied to the commercial sale of copywritten works (which, admittedly, other parts of this omnibus bill does talk about), but I referred his staff to Subsection 212 of HR 2391 SR, which talks about how "by or at the direction of a member of a private household" a commercial or promotional content is skipped, that person can be held liable for copyright infrigement.
So, why doesn't the EFF have a mention of this bill on their site? Yes, I've paid my dues.
Wow, I'm the victim of a 2+ year fad. A fad that gave me a more stable and reliable system than Red Hat. A fad that allowed me to go past the Package Management System to see how the pieces that are the Linux operating environment fit together. In other words, a flexible system that allows for a very tailored installation of Linux and the applications you wish to run. And it is soooo much cleaner - not so much bloat as with Red Hat and Suse. I mean, come on, do you feel the same about FreeBSD and it's Ports system? Gentoo's Portage was based on that, and it works very well. FreeBSD is certainly NOT a "hobbyist" system (though hobbyists do happily use it). And neither is "Gentoo".
Really, the people who seem to be really mad are people from Debian. And I really don't understand why, except that they lost some developer mindshare to Gentoo. And, "newbies" will always be confused initially. They'll get it eventually. Just as you did. Just as I did. That is no reason to slag a distro with unfounded accusations.
Hmm... How about this: You could go to The Web-ified Gentoo Package Database . Next, search for "ircd" or whatever the package is you wish to use. Then click "Homepage". Read that application's docs available on the upstream developers web site. Then, if the default config is ok, "/etc/init.d/ircd start". Hint: Gentoo devs generally create a config that is "average" and "enough to get the application running it it's most common secure configuration."
And before anyone says something about the machines being insecure, I was talking to the election commisioner for the county. She made sure they were as secure as they could be made. I'm not gonna worry about it.
You must have really low quality standards for your voting. The question is not whether the computer-based voting machines are as secure "as they could be made," but if they are more secure than the electro-mechanical or paper-based voting system they are designed to replace. And, at least at this juncture, the answer is a very strong "NO!"
Gotta tell ya, Zap2It actually has had _better_ listings, at certain times, than my Dish Netowork reciver. For instance, the Universityhouse Channel has "Univeristyhouse Channel" as the "program" listed in the Dish Network official program guide. Not too useful. Zap2it breaks down the listing into individual classes and shows.
Oh, yeah, and I love my MythTV. 385GB of love. Watching shows over 802.11b network on Windows 2000 (my girlfriend's PC) and Linux works great using the MythWeb interface. Great quality with the Hauppague PVR-350 and the ivtv drivers. No DRM, great commercial skips, good community support, and no end in sight to new and improved features and capabilities (hopefully easy DVD authoring will be added soon). And runs great on Gentoo, no less.
Actually, my sources tell me it was "Take me to your most intelligent leader. We need to talk about your nuclear issues." So, we have to wait until after the U.S. elections to see if that will be the President or Vice President.
Actually, my sources tell me it was "Take me to your most intelligent leader. We need to talk about your nuclear issues." So, we have to wait until after the U.S. elections to see if that will be the President or Vice President.
Um, well, the difference here, my friend, is that one is an upgrade for an application (Mozilla Firefox), and the other is an upgrade for an entire operating system (Windows XP). One risks the ability to browse, the other risks the ability to boot.
Prudent people might be willing to risk blowing up their pre-release browser for functionality and security, while not be willing to risk blowing up their entire OS with a pre-release patch just to get their browser updated...
So I guess I can continue my rant on how Ben Collins doesn't seem like a very good programmer (or he has too much on his plate or something). I wish someone with more time (or more talented) would once and for all fix the damn 1394/sbp2 system.
Um, excuse me, but how much are you paying for this software? Exactly $0. So, even though you may feel indignant, yes, indeed, it is a valid retort to say to you, "Fix it yourself, or, barring that, give the community helpful bug reports."
Really, publicly calling a programmer who is working on your "commodity" hardware drivers *in their spare time* a "bad programmer" is really gauche. If you don't like something, fix it yourself, or pay for software that does what you want (if it exists). And if it doesn't exist, then hire a programmer yourself. Oh, that's too much money and effort? Ah, well, now you are seeing how much trouble all these developers are going through just because they love to program, and how much it would be priced if it was done only for cash as a job.
I hear some place in Redmond, WA sells an OS that supports that hardware you are talking about pretty well. Or maybe even that company in Cupertino (can't remember the name).
Please, this has NOT been released yet! Stop the insanity (tm)! Save the Slashdotting for an actual public release...
If you can't delete the story, please CHANGE THE HEADLINE! Thank you, Slashdot.
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Yeah, this is really a *poll*, not a survey, and, as evidenced by the Yoper stats, is very easily corrupted and skewed. And it isn't a poll of all Linux users (I didn't get an e-mail asking for participation...), it is a poll of this websites users. Sorry, worse than valueless, it is not what it purports to be. Love to have more statistically powerful data along the same lines, tho!
sumple=simple... whoops...
Or, perhaps, it is not so sumple. Perhaps it is more a problem of education. Had you known that proper wiki-based research should include not only viewing the articles on the topics you seek, but also a glance at the recent history of the page, and the Talk pages, to see how many "eyeballs" have seen the page, and if there are any recent questionable edits. Unlike a book encyclopedia, a Wiki is a two-way medium, and you can't ignore that fact and try to treat it like other one-way media.
How can I trust what I cannot see, because I cannot afford the price of the text?
Well, that was their mistake for asking for surly leeches like you to join their community. Do you know how many man-hours it takes to build something with even half the capabilities of software like the GIMP? You paid a small amount of money to have a truckload of software given to you in digestible morsels (i.e. your for-profit distro). That's all you paid for.
But hey, if you want to help and not just bitch, dive in! Lose the "entitled" attitude, tho.
K. Then perhaps you should bring up your problem with Red Hat, since you paid them?
How do you _know_ that people aren't "dragged off in the dead of night"? In a country of over 1 billion people, how do you know that? In a country that spans 5 time zones, how do you know that? In a country that routinely censors its press, how do *you* know that?
And, besides, why do they have to "drag them off in the dead of night" when there is no law stopping them from doing it at noon on a sunny Sunday?
Done. You're crazy. ;)
but I only trash these things when doing so will accomplish a measureable objective. I'm also one of the few retards who dares to run NTS4 without a firewall - I've got one that's a quad-homed box, hosting two T1s and a DS3. No firewalls, just straight from the NICs into Adtrans etc. I put it on the line back in mid '99, and to date it has yet to be compromised or faulted, despite hosting both IIS4 and Exch55, and running some rather unique and complex software in each.
That you know of, you mean.
Why the f*** would I want to swap that out... well, a Linux solution aside, why *else* would I want to swap that out... no "current" MS product is going to do any better than what I've got now, and in fact will probably do worse. Much worse. I don't repaint my car every year, I don't replace the doors on my house every year, I don't buy a new bed every f*ing year, and I don't toss a solution that will continue working perfectly unless there's a damned good reason. "New screensavers" and "wizards" doesn't cut it.But what about new security fixes? I know that M$ actually screwed up some of the security patches for NT 4.0 where they were made to be "universal" but only really worked on Win2K and above.
I admire your conservative approach to administration, but not to security updates. NT 4.0 is too old and poorly maintained to be safe. Most of the engineers that worked on NT 4.0 have looong moved on to greener pastures, so I haven't trusted Microsoft to give good patches to NT 4.0 for many many years. There are even security holes in some subcomponents of the OS that they refuse to fix in NT 4.0 - saying the fix is to upgrade to Win2K. Good luck with that box.
Hey, what a bait and switch this is! The remote control problem was funny, yes, but the BSOD that happend during the game demo - THAT'S what I want to see "explained"! I can't believe that either a) this guy just "failed to mention it" or b) the Slashdot editor didn't tone down the exhberance in the headline. The headline should have been "One of Two glitches at MS CES Demo Explained" or something similar. Sheesh.
Is there a similar test for this vulnerability for 2.6 and gcc v3.4.* out there yet?
If they ran "fine for me right out of the box", as your say, then you probably were not asking too much out of them. You probably didn't care too much about stability, uptime, or security. But, hey, everyone has their standards. I can't imagine that you were using them to support more than a SOHO, because each of them were plagued with major issues for large deployments until several service packs of fixes. And that's just for the clients...
Well, at least half the time, my knee is right.
Heh.
Shield your eyes if you want to make a GPL'd interoperable client (or similar service). This stuff looks like "poison" for those who work within the Free Software community. Let these folks charge their $25K for their SDK and such. All 10 customers will be very happy, I'm sure.
Public Knowledge has a really nice summary and position page here: http://www.publicknowledge.org/issues/hr2391
Um, that's the wrong Senate bill. The Senate bill is still known by it's house bill number (HR 2391 SR). Search on THOMAS for "Cooperative Research and Technology Enhancement". I believe the query result is sorted by date. For me, the relevant result is this:
Hi all. Was lucky enough to get on KGO (810 AM) in San Francisco. The host, Ronn Owens, is a big Tivo fan, so I figured he needed to know about this. I told him that this bill would make commercial skipping illegal. He initially thought I was spreading an urban legend, but he now has his staff investigating this. He tried to get a legislator on the phone, but didn't succeed. He may have one on tomorrow (hopefully not too late). So, in addition to calling my Senators' DC offices, that's my work for today. I was sad that as his show ended he was still thinking that this only applied to the commercial sale of copywritten works (which, admittedly, other parts of this omnibus bill does talk about), but I referred his staff to Subsection 212 of HR 2391 SR, which talks about how "by or at the direction of a member of a private household" a commercial or promotional content is skipped, that person can be held liable for copyright infrigement.
So, why doesn't the EFF have a mention of this bill on their site? Yes, I've paid my dues.
Wow, I'm the victim of a 2+ year fad. A fad that gave me a more stable and reliable system than Red Hat. A fad that allowed me to go past the Package Management System to see how the pieces that are the Linux operating environment fit together. In other words, a flexible system that allows for a very tailored installation of Linux and the applications you wish to run. And it is soooo much cleaner - not so much bloat as with Red Hat and Suse. I mean, come on, do you feel the same about FreeBSD and it's Ports system? Gentoo's Portage was based on that, and it works very well. FreeBSD is certainly NOT a "hobbyist" system (though hobbyists do happily use it). And neither is "Gentoo".
Really, the people who seem to be really mad are people from Debian. And I really don't understand why, except that they lost some developer mindshare to Gentoo. And, "newbies" will always be confused initially. They'll get it eventually. Just as you did. Just as I did. That is no reason to slag a distro with unfounded accusations.
Hmm... How about this: You could go to The Web-ified Gentoo Package Database . Next, search for "ircd" or whatever the package is you wish to use. Then click "Homepage". Read that application's docs available on the upstream developers web site. Then, if the default config is ok, "/etc/init.d/ircd start". Hint: Gentoo devs generally create a config that is "average" and "enough to get the application running it it's most common secure configuration."
Gotta tell ya, Zap2It actually has had _better_ listings, at certain times, than my Dish Netowork reciver. For instance, the Universityhouse Channel has "Univeristyhouse Channel" as the "program" listed in the Dish Network official program guide. Not too useful. Zap2it breaks down the listing into individual classes and shows.
Oh, yeah, and I love my MythTV. 385GB of love. Watching shows over 802.11b network on Windows 2000 (my girlfriend's PC) and Linux works great using the MythWeb interface. Great quality with the Hauppague PVR-350 and the ivtv drivers. No DRM, great commercial skips, good community support, and no end in sight to new and improved features and capabilities (hopefully easy DVD authoring will be added soon). And runs great on Gentoo, no less.
Actually, my sources tell me it was "Take me to your most intelligent leader. We need to talk about your nuclear issues." So, we have to wait until after the U.S. elections to see if that will be the President or Vice President.
Actually, my sources tell me it was "Take me to your most intelligent leader. We need to talk about your nuclear issues." So, we have to wait until after the U.S. elections to see if that will be the President or Vice President.
Um, well, the difference here, my friend, is that one is an upgrade for an application (Mozilla Firefox), and the other is an upgrade for an entire operating system (Windows XP). One risks the ability to browse , the other risks the ability to boot .
Prudent people might be willing to risk blowing up their pre-release browser for functionality and security, while not be willing to risk blowing up their entire OS with a pre-release patch just to get their browser updated...
Um, excuse me, but how much are you paying for this software? Exactly $0. So, even though you may feel indignant, yes, indeed, it is a valid retort to say to you, "Fix it yourself, or, barring that, give the community helpful bug reports."
Really, publicly calling a programmer who is working on your "commodity" hardware drivers *in their spare time* a "bad programmer" is really gauche. If you don't like something, fix it yourself, or pay for software that does what you want (if it exists). And if it doesn't exist, then hire a programmer yourself. Oh, that's too much money and effort? Ah, well, now you are seeing how much trouble all these developers are going through just because they love to program, and how much it would be priced if it was done only for cash as a job.
I hear some place in Redmond, WA sells an OS that supports that hardware you are talking about pretty well. Or maybe even that company in Cupertino (can't remember the name).
Please, this has NOT been released yet! Stop the insanity (tm)! Save the Slashdotting for an actual public release... If you can't delete the story, please CHANGE THE HEADLINE! Thank you, Slashdot.