You are right, it looks the same on a recent Konqueror and FF. However, I bet the GP was misled by the fact that the layout looks absolutely horrible: an almost unreadable piece of text slammed to the left of the browser window, using only a fraction of the screen width.
You probably made a good choice installing vanilla Ubuntu on the thing. Look at the memory usage comparison over here. I found that very interesting. Even though there are very lightweight WMs out there, after you load them with apps, you get to see a different picture.
Matt
Re:Release Candidate or Beta --what's the diff?
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Dear Anonymous Coward,
Just because you have an opinion, it doesn't make it the truth. The truth is that version 3.5.8 is rock solid for me on Kubuntu. Again, where's the rush?
Many years and versions ago, KDE decided they were not in the packaging business. If Kubuntu drops a buggy KDE 4.0.0 build on me, you can be damned sure I will blame the Kubuntu maintainers.
However, since there is no buggy 4.0.0 build to speak off and a release is still months away, all your talk is just that: talk.
Personally I think that the best line of defense for any open source project is constant innovation and a good (nice & big) community. Those will do the job of keeping your project alive, well and un-forked much better than any other measure you can think off.
Cheers, Matt
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All that because you don't like the release system KDE uses? WTF? Who cares if they call their beta releases banana's and their release candidates apples? It's up to the distributions and the community to decide whether or not the release is good to include/deploy or not.
So what's the worst case scenario? You have to wait a few months until you get a 4.0.1? Few! If that's the biggest problem you have, count yourself lucky.
How about you starting to have some respect for the developers and all the people that put hard work into this release? How about you showing some understanding for the fact that only a tiny fraction of their intended target audience is going to install a beta or RC and that it's practically impossible for them to test each and every possible situation without your help.
Shees!
Matt
P.S. With or without disclaimers, shooting half-truths and BS around in the dark, you're still a troll. If you have a problem, file a fracking bug report.
From this comment I must conclude that you obviously haven't been to the south-central states of the US. Spent a few weeks there and didn't see a single Prius. Compared to the gas guzzlers you see over there, anything is more ecological including 50 year old jet planes.
Where is that picture on which Donald Rumsfeld shakes hands with Sadam Housein? Oh, here it is! By the way, that picture, taken out of its original context is just as much a troll as what you posted.
My point still stands. You know what the first victim is in every war.
The anti-French sentiments in the US that appeared after France refused to join the war on terror in Irak was one big mistake. The French president said at the time "We just want to prevent a friend from making a big mistake".
Now that most people in the US came to the same conclusion as the French president (albeit a bit late) that Irak was one big mistake, this anti-French attitude can be reduced to nothing more than a troll from the US government. Too bad you fell for it.
However, the same can be said from the people across the ocean. The governments from Belgium and France needed political support to resist the enormous pressure that G.W.Bush and his gang put on countries over here in Europe to have us join the war. So they threw oil on the fire to paint a very bad image of the Americans. Everything from under-cover CIA prisoner transports to hidden interrogation sites to arms shipments and EC phone tapping where used to discredit you guys.
The one thing that bothers me is that ALL the news media, including and especially Slashdot, joined in on the mud-throwing and trolling fun without even the slightest hint of objectivity or nuance. Both across the ocean as in Europe.
Don't you think it's about time it stopped right here? People in the US are not the worst because they elected a moron as a president. People in Europe are not anti-American because they didn't support the war in Irak. Being from Belgium and going to the US 4-5 times a year I know that much.
I thought patents applied to corporations, NOT individuals. Besides, like you point out, Microsoft would lose much more in loss of sales the negative news would cause than they could even get by suing Torvalds. That alone makes this bad business and a high unlikely scenario for Microsoft.
Perhaps I don't want to sit in on a 45 minute file system check. Perhaps I want to do a proper shutdown on my development database. Perhaps I want to do lots of things that your little brain can't comprehend right now.
All the same I was pointing out advantages and you haven't disproved anything with your pointless rant. What did that rant have to do with anything anyway? The fact remains that I *can* do a certain thing on Linux and I can't do it on Windows. Get over it.
>1. I've had that disabled for years, and I've had exactly one instance of BSOD-ing so far. (The reason was a crappy driver. Yeah, that's so MS's fault. A Linux user >would be _so_ able to continue using their KDE programs if the video drivers crashed. Not.)
I call BS too. I used to have an unstable video driver (open source ATI stuff) and I more than once ssh-ed into my box to restart X-windows. At least on Linux you still have a chance to recover. At least I have open and closed drivers, at least I have a choice.
BTW, the only time I ever had a kernel panic on Linux was when I had faulty RAM... about 7 years ago.
... just didn't remember it all that clearly, that's all.
For the Blackadder deprived, here's the original one:
Baldrick: "I have a cunning plan!" Blackadder: "Baldrick, you wouldn't recognise a cunning plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord singing 'Cunning plans are here again'."
I believe that was mainly the point, yes. Most end-users wouldn't recognise a security issue if it was walking in the middle of the street, naked, waving a huge vlag that had "Security Issue" printed in bold on it.
I once heard that if you predict the weather for tomorrow to be the same as today, you're right more often than not. I even heard it was close to 60% or something. With those kind of numbers who needs these fancy computer whatchemecallits anyway?
I know these numbers are complete unsubstantiated and all, but since everyone else here doesn't seem to mind I just thought it best to drop 'm on you.
The thing is: scientific development will continue. Just like you wouldn't be able to tell in the year 1900 I would be writing this post on a laptop with built-in multimedia capabilites, wireless communitaction and massive computing power, you can't predict what kind of funny effects you can create with space and time when given virtually unlimted amounts of energy. (from our 2007 perspective)
That's a great idea. Unfortunately it's very hard to pick out the evil foreigners though. Better make them carry a distinctly visible item to allow you to see them clearly when they are walking on the street. Unless these people agree to have a non-removeable chip implant of-course.
Companies A and B both have a patent. - A has a patent for moving a mouse pointer around on the screen. - B has a patent for clicking a mouse button.
They make an agreement and they're doing fine. They can make applications that involve mouse operations. Company C doesn't have mouse patents and gets sued by A and B because it made an application with a GUI and is not doing fine at all. As such, A and B have much more to gain from retaining their patents for the simple fact they can then sue that third party until it runs out of money. If the mouse pointer patent gets thrown out, there's a fat chance the clicking patent goes out the window as well. A such, it's better for them to keep the silly patents around.
Slashdot Mirror
You are right, it looks the same on a recent Konqueror and FF.
However, I bet the GP was misled by the fact that the layout looks absolutely horrible: an almost unreadable piece of text slammed to the left of the browser window, using only a fraction of the screen width.
You probably made a good choice installing vanilla Ubuntu on the thing. Look at the memory usage comparison over here.
I found that very interesting. Even though there are very lightweight WMs out there, after you load them with apps, you get to see a different picture.
Matt
Dear Anonymous Coward,
Just because you have an opinion, it doesn't make it the truth.
The truth is that version 3.5.8 is rock solid for me on Kubuntu. Again, where's the rush?
Many years and versions ago, KDE decided they were not in the packaging business.
If Kubuntu drops a buggy KDE 4.0.0 build on me, you can be damned sure I will blame the Kubuntu maintainers.
However, since there is no buggy 4.0.0 build to speak off and a release is still months away, all your talk is just that: talk.
One - big - troll.
And I'm done feeding.
I couldn't agree more.
Personally I think that the best line of defense for any open source project is constant innovation and a good (nice & big) community.
Those will do the job of keeping your project alive, well and un-forked much better than any other measure you can think off.
Cheers,
Matt
All that because you don't like the release system KDE uses? WTF?
Who cares if they call their beta releases banana's and their release candidates apples?
It's up to the distributions and the community to decide whether or not the release is good to include/deploy or not.
So what's the worst case scenario? You have to wait a few months until you get a 4.0.1? Few! If that's the biggest problem you have, count yourself lucky.
How about you starting to have some respect for the developers and all the people that put hard work into this release?
How about you showing some understanding for the fact that only a tiny fraction of their intended target audience is going to install a beta or RC and that it's practically impossible for them to test each and every possible situation without your help.
Shees!
Matt
P.S. With or without disclaimers, shooting half-truths and BS around in the dark, you're still a troll. If you have a problem, file a fracking bug report.
That's just darned hilarious. Thanks for providing that link.
From this comment I must conclude that you obviously haven't been to the south-central states of the US.
Spent a few weeks there and didn't see a single Prius. Compared to the gas guzzlers you see over there, anything is more ecological including 50 year old jet planes.
As comments for this article go, I bet it doesn't get any more Insightful than this. I can stop reading now.
Thanks,
Matt
True that. Once in a while it shows that that I'm in fact not English speaking. My apologies to the occasionally passing grammar nazi...
Where is that picture on which Donald Rumsfeld shakes hands with Sadam Housein? Oh, here it is!
By the way, that picture, taken out of its original context is just as much a troll as what you posted.
My point still stands. You know what the first victim is in every war.
Oh please!
The anti-French sentiments in the US that appeared after France refused to join the war on terror in Irak was one big mistake. The French president said at the time "We just want to prevent a friend from making a big mistake".
Now that most people in the US came to the same conclusion as the French president (albeit a bit late) that Irak was one big mistake, this anti-French attitude can be reduced to nothing more than a troll from the US government. Too bad you fell for it.
However, the same can be said from the people across the ocean. The governments from Belgium and France needed political support to resist the enormous pressure that G.W.Bush and his gang put on countries over here in Europe to have us join the war. So they threw oil on the fire to paint a very bad image of the Americans. Everything from under-cover CIA prisoner transports to hidden interrogation sites to arms shipments and EC phone tapping where used to discredit you guys.
The one thing that bothers me is that ALL the news media, including and especially Slashdot, joined in on the mud-throwing and trolling fun without even the slightest hint of objectivity or nuance. Both across the ocean as in Europe.
Don't you think it's about time it stopped right here? People in the US are not the worst because they elected a moron as a president. People in Europe are not anti-American because they didn't support the war in Irak. Being from Belgium and going to the US 4-5 times a year I know that much.
Matt
I agree. If someone would make a "vi" mode in Emacs it would not become popular either, for all the right reasons.
I thought patents applied to corporations, NOT individuals.
Besides, like you point out, Microsoft would lose much more in loss of sales the negative news would cause than they could even get by suing Torvalds.
That alone makes this bad business and a high unlikely scenario for Microsoft.
Matt
You can't fool me! It's turtles all the way down.
It's like this joke...
A user calls tech support, tech support asks for the password and the reply is *****
There is silence and then the user asks: "I bet you can't tell if I'm really smart or really stupid".
It's not because you're paranoid that they are not after you...
Just a nitpick, but anti-biotics don't really help fight against viruses.
Still, you have to admit, it was pretty misleading.
What sounds worst
"almost a quarter of a trillion dollars"
or
"230 billion dollars"
The art of "tweaking" the numbers is wonderful.
For extreme values of 0, you can have 1.
For extreme values of 230B you can have a trillion.
Perhaps I don't want to sit in on a 45 minute file system check.
Perhaps I want to do a proper shutdown on my development database.
Perhaps I want to do lots of things that your little brain can't comprehend right now.
All the same I was pointing out advantages and you haven't disproved anything with your pointless rant.
What did that rant have to do with anything anyway? The fact remains that I *can* do a certain thing on Linux and I can't do it on Windows.
Get over it.
>1. I've had that disabled for years, and I've had exactly one instance of BSOD-ing so far. (The reason was a crappy driver. Yeah, that's so MS's fault. A Linux user >would be _so_ able to continue using their KDE programs if the video drivers crashed. Not.)
I call BS too. I used to have an unstable video driver (open source ATI stuff) and I more than once ssh-ed into my box to restart X-windows.
At least on Linux you still have a chance to recover. At least I have open and closed drivers, at least I have a choice.
BTW, the only time I ever had a kernel panic on Linux was when I had faulty RAM... about 7 years ago.
... just didn't remember it all that clearly, that's all.
For the Blackadder deprived, here's the original one:
Baldrick: "I have a cunning plan!"
Blackadder: "Baldrick, you wouldn't recognise a cunning plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord singing 'Cunning plans are here again'."
I believe that was mainly the point, yes.
Most end-users wouldn't recognise a security issue if it was walking in the middle of the street, naked, waving a huge vlag that had "Security Issue" printed in bold on it.
I once heard that if you predict the weather for tomorrow to be the same as today, you're right more often than not.
I even heard it was close to 60% or something.
With those kind of numbers who needs these fancy computer whatchemecallits anyway?
I know these numbers are complete unsubstantiated and all, but since everyone else here doesn't seem to mind I just thought it best to drop 'm on you.
I wonder if that's really true. History has many examples of scientific facts being disproven.
http://www.answers.com/topic/failed-predictions
The thing is: scientific development will continue. Just like you wouldn't be able to tell in the year 1900 I would be writing this post on a laptop with built-in multimedia capabilites, wireless communitaction and massive computing power, you can't predict what kind of funny effects you can create with space and time when given virtually unlimted amounts of energy. (from our 2007 perspective)
That's a great idea. Unfortunately it's very hard to pick out the evil foreigners though.
Better make them carry a distinctly visible item to allow you to see them clearly when they are walking on the street.
Unless these people agree to have a non-removeable chip implant of-course.
OK, I'll bite.
Companies A and B both have a patent.
- A has a patent for moving a mouse pointer around on the screen.
- B has a patent for clicking a mouse button.
They make an agreement and they're doing fine. They can make applications that involve mouse operations.
Company C doesn't have mouse patents and gets sued by A and B because it made an application with a GUI and is not doing fine at all.
As such, A and B have much more to gain from retaining their patents for the simple fact they can then sue that third party until it runs out of money.
If the mouse pointer patent gets thrown out, there's a fat chance the clicking patent goes out the window as well. A such, it's better for them to keep the silly patents around.