Dear Sir, I wish to complain on the strongest possible terms about the previous entry in this webpage!
Many of my best friends use Emacs and VI and not all of them wear sandles and not all of them are stroking their beards. (at least not all of the time)
Best regards,
Brigadier Sir Matt 'Soup Nazi' Casters (Mrs)
P.S. I never use Emacs myself unless forced to and then I claim I don't know the shortcut to insert text.
What good would it do me? It still wouldn't allow me to do with the Tivo device what I would want, would it? They carefully made sure they complied with the GPLv2 but at the same time they knew damn well that it was going to be a close call. As such I consider them to be violating the spirit of the GPL. Hey, it's an opinion, nothing more.
Now that GPLv3 patches the hole they made use of they come crying for help? Give me an f-ing break.
Again, from a developer viewpoint, I tend to agree with you. From a software user-viewpoint your remarks are not true.
Just because you repeat an argument over and over again, doesn't make it become more true.
Please also note that I released my own software under LGPL to allow "commercial" and closed source use of my software.
Finally, by dissing my remarks as if they where coming from an "GPL or open source advocate" and by doing your best to deliver ridicule to my statements, you did indeed earn a "-1 trolling".
Never feed a troll and all that, but you are missing the point I was trying to make. I was talking about freedom as a user. Software is written for a certain use. Contrary to what you may believe, software is NOT about the developer, it's about the end-result. That is all IMHO though. Certain aspects are borderline philosophical.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to witness it, does it have any meaning?
If a piece of software is written and nobody uses it, does it have any meaning?
In general I think software wants to have a certain purpose, wants to be used.
As far as I see it, Tivo violates the GPL and they should publish the source code. It's a simple as that. If they didn't like to publish the code, they should not have used it. The Tivo users lost freedom because Tivo violated the GPL license.
> Under license 3, the price of that particular freedom is somebody else's freedom
I don't see how you can claim that since that certain someone didn't gain or lose any freedom in the process. When you opt to use the GPL-ed software you have a freedom to use it. You should give that same freedom to others. It's as simple as that. Take it or leave it.
I guess the reasoning with GPL is that by making sure the license (under which GPL-ed software is released under) stays GPL. That way, you guarantee a certain degree of freedom. Software that can be distributed as binary-only as such does not offer that guarantee. And therefor, using the same logic, the conclusion has to be that GPL is "more free".
The degrees of freedom as I see them reflected in the GPL license, refers to the rights of the end-user, more than to those of the developers.
Anyway, discussing licenses is always something nice to do if the weather is bad or if there is no more dirt left to clean up in the back yard..02,
Actually it would absolutely not be illegal or even wrong by any measure point to copy the GPL source code for own commercial use... as long as you make the source code available.
It's called "the right to fork" and it is A Good Thing(TM).
I just can't believe that your post is being modded insightful...
So what you're saying is that countries where half of the population has AIDS, need to pay up or wait 20 years for medication?
Mmm, I wonder why they don't agree with your view of things... They must not be very well educated, such as yourself for example. Or is it perhaps because these countries risk milions of deaths and total collapse?
Your reasoning for cold blooded capitalism without any regard for human life is simply put disgusting. Citing some other problems these folks have over there as an excuse for this blind cold "cash" point of view doesn't make it any better either.
What a situation, loaded with mod points, but not sure at all how to moderate. Never happened to me before. It could go any way: Flamebait, Troll, Funny, Interesting, Overrated
There should be a category for "WARNING: Contains link to pretty sad music video"
Anyway, thanks for posting that link... I guess. I'm not touching your post with a 10-foot mod-pole.
Well "drinkypoo", I would really advice you to get your priorities straight. I would highly doubt that anybody on this forum is saying that dumping oil into the ocean is a Good Thing(tm). However, your drawing the conclusion that this system is Evil(tm) because it uses hydrolics. It's an experimental system for crying out loud! You know virtually nothing about the new device yet you are so very keen on spouting criticism.
I would have modded you in exactly the same way. Dude, people like you give tree-huggers a bad name.
You got that all wrong! You see, it doesn't matter: nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!
Amongst their weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms.
You would have to force the authors/admins of the different virtual worlds to not distribute unlimted amounts of the virtual currencies. Otherwise like, in the real world, this would lead to enormous devaluations in other worlds.
Suppose you did want to buy that weapon and all of a sudden there is this other game where you can get at the required funds very easily. It would seriously take out all the fun out of the games don't you think?
In short, if you're going with a single currency, there would have to be a single "bank" that issues the currency at the least and strangly limited amounts of the currency would have to be allowed to be available. Somehow, I don't see this happen just yet.
Personally I don't care at all for the poor soul that tries to open up a vault with all kinds of danger symbols like skulls on it.
However, that is IMHO besided the point. The big problem as far as I see it is polution of the environment, especially the water. If ground water gets contaminated, it will surface one day. Then it will not just be the individual at risk, but complete populations and regions of the planet.
Storing something with a looong half time for thousands of years is not trivial folks...
Besides, I thought that one of the drawbacks of nuclear energy was also the limited supply of uranium. Has that problem all of a sudden gone away?
Are you sure you want to copy that file to the system folder "C:\Windows? [yes] [no]
System folder "C:\Windows" is used to store important system files. Changes to this folder can affect your system! Are you really really really **REALLY** sure you want to do this? [yes] [no]
You are not allowed to access the system folder "C:\Windows"! [abort] [retry] [ignore]
It made me wonder about the profit margin Microsoft has on this software. I know that in general the price of retail software is as virtual as you can possibly imagine it, but still. The real question then is: if all their software would be sold at 90% discount, would Microsoft still have a profitable software business?
I'm sure that the answer to that is still a wholeheartly "Yes!".
I went to the States 4 times in '06 and I have to say, besides the long queue on occasion, I've had no complaint in the "Friendly face" department. Also, somehow it would bother me if these folks wouldn't be doing their job. In many ways that would be a lot worse. At least now, the questioning and thoroughness was consistent all 4 times.
I couldn't agree more. Even if 500 people on a plane used their cell-phones at the same time, I'm sure the signal strength would be far less than that being emitted by all the cell phone towers at the airports themselves.
This is Slashdot so obviously I have absolutely no numbers to back that up:-)
Hey buddy, I gave you plenty of facts, you just ignored them and threw rude comments back at me. So what it comes down to is that after trolling and spreading fud, I can now add flame bait to the list.
I didn't even know you worked for Microsoft. Like I said before, I have nothing against Microsoft and I really like to work with a lot of their software. I'm sorry they kicked you out. However, it's just a company my friend, get over it. There's plenty of other work in the ICT sector.
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Dear Sir, I wish to complain on the strongest possible terms about the previous entry in this webpage!
Many of my best friends use Emacs and VI and not all of them wear sandles and not all of them are stroking their beards. (at least not all of the time)
Best regards,
Brigadier Sir Matt 'Soup Nazi' Casters (Mrs)
P.S. I never use Emacs myself unless forced to and then I claim I don't know the shortcut to insert text.
What good would it do me? It still wouldn't allow me to do with the Tivo device what I would want, would it?
They carefully made sure they complied with the GPLv2 but at the same time they knew damn well that it was going to be a close call.
As such I consider them to be violating the spirit of the GPL. Hey, it's an opinion, nothing more.
Now that GPLv3 patches the hole they made use of they come crying for help? Give me an f-ing break.
> do. In other words, your options are fewer
Again, from a developer viewpoint, I tend to agree with you.
From a software user-viewpoint your remarks are not true.
Just because you repeat an argument over and over again, doesn't make it become more true.
Please also note that I released my own software under LGPL to allow "commercial" and closed source use of my software.
Finally, by dissing my remarks as if they where coming from an "GPL or open source advocate" and by doing your best to deliver ridicule to my statements, you did indeed earn a "-1 trolling".
Have a great day,
Matt
Never feed a troll and all that, but you are missing the point I was trying to make.
I was talking about freedom as a user. Software is written for a certain use. Contrary to what you may believe, software is NOT about the developer, it's about the end-result. That is all IMHO though. Certain aspects are borderline philosophical.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to witness it, does it have any meaning?
If a piece of software is written and nobody uses it, does it have any meaning?
In general I think software wants to have a certain purpose, wants to be used.
As far as I see it, Tivo violates the GPL and they should publish the source code. It's a simple as that. If they didn't like to publish the code, they should not have used it. The Tivo users lost freedom because Tivo violated the GPL license.
> Under license 3, the price of that particular freedom is somebody else's freedom
I don't see how you can claim that since that certain someone didn't gain or lose any freedom in the process. When you opt to use the GPL-ed software you have a freedom to use it. You should give that same freedom to others. It's as simple as that. Take it or leave it.
Matt
I guess the reasoning with GPL is that by making sure the license (under which GPL-ed software is released under) stays GPL. That way, you guarantee a certain degree of freedom. Software that can be distributed as binary-only as such does not offer that guarantee.
.02,
And therefor, using the same logic, the conclusion has to be that GPL is "more free".
The degrees of freedom as I see them reflected in the GPL license, refers to the rights of the end-user, more than to those of the developers.
Anyway, discussing licenses is always something nice to do if the weather is bad or if there is no more dirt left to clean up in the back yard.
Matt
Actually it would absolutely not be illegal or even wrong by any measure point to copy the GPL source code for own commercial use... as long as you make the source code available. It's called "the right to fork" and it is A Good Thing(TM).
That answer doesn't sound right.
An Intel Core 2 Duo consumes 65W at 2.66Ghz.
The Power6 consumes 100W.
As such I'm sure an extra fan will be needed at the most.
I just can't believe that your post is being modded insightful...
So what you're saying is that countries where half of the population has AIDS, need to pay up or wait 20 years for medication?
Mmm, I wonder why they don't agree with your view of things... They must not be very well educated, such as yourself for example.
Or is it perhaps because these countries risk milions of deaths and total collapse?
Your reasoning for cold blooded capitalism without any regard for human life is simply put disgusting. Citing some other problems these folks have over there as an excuse for this blind cold "cash" point of view doesn't make it any better either.
Enjoy your lunch,
Matt
This post was modded :
40% Funny
20% Offtopic
20% Interesting
It kinda proved my point.
What a situation, loaded with mod points, but not sure at all how to moderate.
Never happened to me before. It could go any way: Flamebait, Troll, Funny, Interesting, Overrated
There should be a category for "WARNING: Contains link to pretty sad music video"
Anyway, thanks for posting that link... I guess. I'm not touching your post with a 10-foot mod-pole.
Well "drinkypoo", I would really advice you to get your priorities straight.
I would highly doubt that anybody on this forum is saying that dumping oil into the ocean is a Good Thing(tm).
However, your drawing the conclusion that this system is Evil(tm) because it uses hydrolics. It's an experimental system for crying out loud!
You know virtually nothing about the new device yet you are so very keen on spouting criticism.
I would have modded you in exactly the same way. Dude, people like you give tree-huggers a bad name.
Matt
Amongst their weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms.
Well, then again... You *know* what the first casualty in every war is.
You would have to force the authors/admins of the different virtual worlds to not distribute unlimted amounts of the virtual currencies.
Otherwise like, in the real world, this would lead to enormous devaluations in other worlds.
Suppose you did want to buy that weapon and all of a sudden there is this other game where you can get at the required funds very easily.
It would seriously take out all the fun out of the games don't you think?
In short, if you're going with a single currency, there would have to be a single "bank" that issues the currency at the least and strangly limited amounts of the currency would have to be allowed to be available. Somehow, I don't see this happen just yet.
Personally I don't care at all for the poor soul that tries to open up a vault with all kinds of danger symbols like skulls on it.
However, that is IMHO besided the point. The big problem as far as I see it is polution of the environment, especially the water.
If ground water gets contaminated, it will surface one day. Then it will not just be the individual at risk, but complete populations and regions of the planet.
Storing something with a looong half time for thousands of years is not trivial folks...
Besides, I thought that one of the drawbacks of nuclear energy was also the limited supply of uranium.
Has that problem all of a sudden gone away?
Are you sure you want to copy that file to the system folder "C:\Windows?
[yes] [no]
System folder "C:\Windows" is used to store important system files. Changes to this folder can affect your system!
Are you really really really **REALLY** sure you want to do this?
[yes] [no]
You are not allowed to access the system folder "C:\Windows"!
[abort] [retry] [ignore]
Next time when you moderate, browse at -1!!
It made me wonder about the profit margin Microsoft has on this software.
I know that in general the price of retail software is as virtual as you can possibly imagine it, but still.
The real question then is: if all their software would be sold at 90% discount, would Microsoft still have a profitable software business?
I'm sure that the answer to that is still a wholeheartly "Yes!".
"You must be new here."
I went to the States 4 times in '06 and I have to say, besides the long queue on occasion, I've had no complaint in the "Friendly face" department.
Also, somehow it would bother me if these folks wouldn't be doing their job. In many ways that would be a lot worse.
At least now, the questioning and thoroughness was consistent all 4 times.
I couldn't agree more. Even if 500 people on a plane used their cell-phones at the same time, I'm sure the signal strength would be far less than that being emitted by all the cell phone towers at the airports themselves.
:-)
This is Slashdot so obviously I have absolutely no numbers to back that up
Hey buddy, I gave you plenty of facts, you just ignored them and threw rude comments back at me.
So what it comes down to is that after trolling and spreading fud, I can now add flame bait to the list.
I didn't even know you worked for Microsoft. Like I said before, I have nothing against Microsoft and I really like to work with a lot of their software. I'm sorry they kicked you out. However, it's just a company my friend, get over it. There's plenty of other work in the ICT sector.
Take care,
Matt
Mmm, are you sure your title is "project" manager? Not "sanitary" manager at the local McDonald's?
This thread is interesting enough though... for those that are investigating correlations between trolling and FUD.
Shees.
> I'm a professional software project manager
I'm sorry to hear that. I really am.