Yeah, I should have been more clear. I don't believe the government is going to create jobs to lower the unemployment rate with public work projects or anything like that. But I do expect the government to give tax incentives, grants, etc to spark new business and industry. Most people work for a small company and most small companies get (if they pursued it) government money to get started. Our government (I live the US) is just like any other business, it needs incoming money (taxes) to operate. An employeed population is the government's lifeblood, if we ever reached 40% unemployment there wouldn't be enough tax money to operate the military and social services. Something would have to give (and attack from Canada, civil unrest, etc), so naturally its in everyone's best interest to keep as many people employeed as possible.
I guess my point was, the world does need support people working otherwise menial jobs. The great thing about the auto industry was it gave laborers an avenue to make a decent wage, have a family, and become good consumers. There were people in my home town that thought getting into the local assembly plant was like winning the lottery. Automation (robot assembly) killed my home town and many others (I'm thinking Flint, MI like situations).
Personally I agree, that automation is advancement and will overall increase the standard of life for all, but in the same process the rich (corporations that produce these devices) get richer and the poor (people who aren't going to realize their potential and get retrained for other jobs) will get poorer.
I'm sorry to hear your job is going away, I'm not sure if I consider outsourcing (or moving tech jobs in Eastern Europe where labor is cheaper) is the same as automation because I'm not sure I see the improvement for the society (other then those where these jobs are going of course).
I agree that automation increases productivity, which is an advantage to the business as productivity usually means higher output for the same cost or reducing costs for the same productivity.
However, if you really believe that there is no correlation between automation and job loss, there are a couple hundred thousand auto workers that'd like a word with you.
My mundane position was at an amusement park. I'm sure the adults that came through looked down on me because I wasn't from an affluent area or had secured my education at an important university. But that mundane job allowed me to attend a state school. No one flipping burgers or scanning your Fruit Loops is thinkging they've reached their potential or go home at night thinking "I've finally arrived"
I'm not saying we don't need the menial (sp?) or support jobs. We do and we will, they will just change from filling your Biggie Drink (c) to patting your pockets looking for metal items while entering the public library. Shift Happens.
ATM replacing bank tellers.
eTickets replacing airport personnel.
Self checkout at the grocery store.
Sure, it has prolly reduced the number of people working those teller/clerk positions and I'm sure on a very small scale its contributed to the unemployment rate. Aside from businesses trying to reduce costs, the government will be trying to create jobs elsewhere.
If we, has a people, can automate the mundane, in theory, it would free the rest of us to create, inspire, and innovate.
Ahh, its just a theory.
I don't give a rat's ass about the artists in this instance. I do not use P2P and only rip albums I own (hard to believe isn't it?). Having said that, I don't believe copyright
infringement is 'victimless', I'm sure between drug binges they worked hard to produce it, more power to them.
The correlation I was drawing between *real* victims was made earlier (molesters on the prowl, kiddie pron). And yes, I make a distinction between predators that will harm (in the physical sense) versus copyright/intellectual property crime. Taking a rapist off the street improves my community, attacking a 15 year old kid because he copied some music and shared with his friends IS different.
My ultimate point was drawing the line and who can request such information from my ISP (police with warrant, a copyright holder, my boss, you?). I think a reasonable solution would be let the copyright holders attack the P2P, but if you want my info, from my ISP, that should require a warrant. IMHO
Here is a snipet from my ISP's email they sent today.
Dear Insightbb.com Customer,
There is important information that you need to know regarding the role Insight is required to play in enforcing copyrights.
In 1998, Congress passed the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) (http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf ), which allows copyright holders to enforce their copyrighted material by requesting that Internet service providers takedown infringing material or disclose the identity of persons that use the Internet to infringe on copyrights. Representatives of copyright owners routinely scan computers through file sharing software or websites to identify infringers of their copyrights. If Insight is notified by a copyright holder of an infringement, we may be required to notify a customer of the alleged violation and turn off the customers service if the infringement continues. We may also be required pursuant to the DMCA to disclose the infringing customers identity to the copyright holder. This is true for any Internet service provider, whether a broadband or narrowband provider.
Copyright holders are becoming extremely aggressive in pursuing the rights afforded them under the DMCA. Many of our customers are unaware that unauthorized downloading of copyrighted music and movies over the Internet is illegal. File sharing in itself is not illegal, but downloading copyrighted material from the Internet - without proper authorization - is illegal. Such activity is also prohibited by Insights Acceptable Use Policy governing the use of your Insightbb.com High Speed Broadband service.
We also want to caution you that file sharing can be dangerous to your computer. Many of the file-sharing programs include other "sub-programs" built into their software code. When you leave file sharing ports open to the Internet, it may allow others to access and use your computer resources to do a myriad of tasks for their own benefit. Open ports also make you a target for viruses and put your personal information at risk.
Are others receiving these as well?
I realize in matters of tracing criminal acts (such as kiddie pr0n, molesters stalking in chat rooms, etc) I would hope ISPs would release names, but in cases of music/movie piracy (and any other crime that doesn't have a *real* victim) I would hope the ISPs would push back on the P2P networks.
Am I the only one that sees a difference between a police agency with a warrant in hand asking who's who and the damn 'copyright holder'? Shouldn't there be a burden of proof before my privacy is violated?
Hard to believe, but I don't pirate (music or movies). I don't connect to any P2P networks (that I know of anyway).
Yes, back in the day I used Morpheus to ease some pr0n searches, but the spyware/adware spoiled the experience.
I'm not saying they shouldn't fight piracy, they have every right to. But as a consumer, I'm not buying until they make an effort.
For the amount of movies that have been made that are nothing more then tired rewrite sequels, retread high budget updates to movies from the past, and just flat out lack any effort from the producers/directors/writers I refuse to pay for movies in the theatre anymore.
Its one thing if the industry was creating original movies with creative and insightful writing, but anymore its about franchising and draining a genre until death.
Rather then spend energy, effort, and money on countering piracy - I wish they'd spead it making original and quality movies.
That seems odd.
Aside from the obvious correlations of suing MSN Messenger and gambling. I believe the federal law on gambling winnings is $5000 (or at least that is what the roulette lady told me) before IRS notification is required.
It seems odd there would be such a distinction between gambling winnings and a contest give-away. Especially an internet based one where the winning user may not live in the US.
I admit to not knowing a great deal about Lindows (since I can't seem to download it anywhere) but how are they playing The Sims?
Is WINE preconfigured on the build?
I found the web sharing configuration portion and asked the staff if that was Apache, they said it wasn't (amazing how poor their staff turned out to be), the chick who was helping me said I'd first have to buy web space and when I asked her manager he said I couldn't becuase I have a cable connection and its impossible to get a dedicated IP on cable (even though mine is static I didn't feel like prolonging the debate that we were talking about the same thing.
The ones I played with had both IE and Safari, no complaints with either.
The multimedica capabilities are the Macs did impress, but many of the ones you mentioned (and the staff showed) where high $$ add ones. There is a suite that comes with the iMac that did seem more then capable of what I'd like to do.
The whole experience was quite dissappointing as I was hoping to be wowed, and was wasn't.
Hearing that a 2-3 button mouse can be added does help. I just wish I could use one for a couple days to see, argh this is such a tough decision.
I asked the staff at the Apple store about this, none had any idea (nor did I), but one stated changing the OS would void the warranty (again, something I've not researched myself) for support.
I am a Windows admin (please save your snide comments) and I was at the mall yesterday. I haven't touched a Mac in some time and went into the apple store to see what all the hype was about.
I have to say after playing with a variety of systems I wasn't into it at all. I understand if I had one and became intimate with one I'd discover what all those people are talking about that have switched. But maybe its becuase I'm use to having more then one mouse button, but the interface wasn't nearly as intutive as advertised. and the desktop seemed all about bells & whistles (which are nice, but at home I want to game, host a web site, surf porn, and maybe do some multimedia stuff).
Don't get me wrong, I love the hardware and damn the new iMac is sexy, if I could get one that ran Windows or RedHat (or Mandrake) I'd think about it, but the freaking Mac software is priced out of my range.
I am looking for a new home PC and the Dell XPS is my choice right now, but I'd love to hear about someone in a similar situation as I that went with a Mac and what their experience was.
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Yeah, I should have been more clear. I don't believe the government is going to create jobs to lower the unemployment rate with public work projects or anything like that. But I do expect the government to give tax incentives, grants, etc to spark new business and industry. Most people work for a small company and most small companies get (if they pursued it) government money to get started. Our government (I live the US) is just like any other business, it needs incoming money (taxes) to operate. An employeed population is the government's lifeblood, if we ever reached 40% unemployment there wouldn't be enough tax money to operate the military and social services. Something would have to give (and attack from Canada, civil unrest, etc), so naturally its in everyone's best interest to keep as many people employeed as possible.
Personally I agree, that automation is advancement and will overall increase the standard of life for all, but in the same process the rich (corporations that produce these devices) get richer and the poor (people who aren't going to realize their potential and get retrained for other jobs) will get poorer.
I'm sorry to hear your job is going away, I'm not sure if I consider outsourcing (or moving tech jobs in Eastern Europe where labor is cheaper) is the same as automation because I'm not sure I see the improvement for the society (other then those where these jobs are going of course).
However, if you really believe that there is no correlation between automation and job loss, there are a couple hundred thousand auto workers that'd like a word with you.
My mundane position was at an amusement park. I'm sure the adults that came through looked down on me because I wasn't from an affluent area or had secured my education at an important university. But that mundane job allowed me to attend a state school. No one flipping burgers or scanning your Fruit Loops is thinkging they've reached their potential or go home at night thinking "I've finally arrived"
I'm not saying we don't need the menial (sp?) or support jobs. We do and we will, they will just change from filling your Biggie Drink (c) to patting your pockets looking for metal items while entering the public library. Shift Happens.
ATM replacing bank tellers. eTickets replacing airport personnel. Self checkout at the grocery store. Sure, it has prolly reduced the number of people working those teller/clerk positions and I'm sure on a very small scale its contributed to the unemployment rate. Aside from businesses trying to reduce costs, the government will be trying to create jobs elsewhere. If we, has a people, can automate the mundane, in theory, it would free the rest of us to create, inspire, and innovate. Ahh, its just a theory.
The correlation I was drawing between *real* victims was made earlier (molesters on the prowl, kiddie pron). And yes, I make a distinction between predators that will harm (in the physical sense) versus copyright/intellectual property crime. Taking a rapist off the street improves my community, attacking a 15 year old kid because he copied some music and shared with his friends IS different.
My ultimate point was drawing the line and who can request such information from my ISP (police with warrant, a copyright holder, my boss, you?). I think a reasonable solution would be let the copyright holders attack the P2P, but if you want my info, from my ISP, that should require a warrant. IMHO
Are others receiving these as well? I realize in matters of tracing criminal acts (such as kiddie pr0n, molesters stalking in chat rooms, etc) I would hope ISPs would release names, but in cases of music/movie piracy (and any other crime that doesn't have a *real* victim) I would hope the ISPs would push back on the P2P networks.
Am I the only one that sees a difference between a police agency with a warrant in hand asking who's who and the damn 'copyright holder'? Shouldn't there be a burden of proof before my privacy is violated?
Hard to believe, but I don't pirate (music or movies). I don't connect to any P2P networks (that I know of anyway). Yes, back in the day I used Morpheus to ease some pr0n searches, but the spyware/adware spoiled the experience. I'm not saying they shouldn't fight piracy, they have every right to. But as a consumer, I'm not buying until they make an effort.
For the amount of movies that have been made that are nothing more then tired rewrite sequels, retread high budget updates to movies from the past, and just flat out lack any effort from the producers/directors/writers I refuse to pay for movies in the theatre anymore. Its one thing if the industry was creating original movies with creative and insightful writing, but anymore its about franchising and draining a genre until death. Rather then spend energy, effort, and money on countering piracy - I wish they'd spead it making original and quality movies.
That seems odd. Aside from the obvious correlations of suing MSN Messenger and gambling. I believe the federal law on gambling winnings is $5000 (or at least that is what the roulette lady told me) before IRS notification is required. It seems odd there would be such a distinction between gambling winnings and a contest give-away. Especially an internet based one where the winning user may not live in the US.
As long as he shares the source legos and all notes he made, thought or imagined during it's design he's legal, remember its free (as in porn).
I admit to not knowing a great deal about Lindows (since I can't seem to download it anywhere) but how are they playing The Sims? Is WINE preconfigured on the build?
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It was an offical Apple Store. It was in the Fashion Mall in Indianapolis. In all fairness, the store just opened recently.
I found the web sharing configuration portion and asked the staff if that was Apache, they said it wasn't (amazing how poor their staff turned out to be), the chick who was helping me said I'd first have to buy web space and when I asked her manager he said I couldn't becuase I have a cable connection and its impossible to get a dedicated IP on cable (even though mine is static I didn't feel like prolonging the debate that we were talking about the same thing. The ones I played with had both IE and Safari, no complaints with either. The multimedica capabilities are the Macs did impress, but many of the ones you mentioned (and the staff showed) where high $$ add ones. There is a suite that comes with the iMac that did seem more then capable of what I'd like to do. The whole experience was quite dissappointing as I was hoping to be wowed, and was wasn't. Hearing that a 2-3 button mouse can be added does help. I just wish I could use one for a couple days to see, argh this is such a tough decision.
I asked the staff at the Apple store about this, none had any idea (nor did I), but one stated changing the OS would void the warranty (again, something I've not researched myself) for support.
I am a Windows admin (please save your snide comments) and I was at the mall yesterday. I haven't touched a Mac in some time and went into the apple store to see what all the hype was about. I have to say after playing with a variety of systems I wasn't into it at all. I understand if I had one and became intimate with one I'd discover what all those people are talking about that have switched. But maybe its becuase I'm use to having more then one mouse button, but the interface wasn't nearly as intutive as advertised. and the desktop seemed all about bells & whistles (which are nice, but at home I want to game, host a web site, surf porn, and maybe do some multimedia stuff). Don't get me wrong, I love the hardware and damn the new iMac is sexy, if I could get one that ran Windows or RedHat (or Mandrake) I'd think about it, but the freaking Mac software is priced out of my range. I am looking for a new home PC and the Dell XPS is my choice right now, but I'd love to hear about someone in a similar situation as I that went with a Mac and what their experience was.