iChat AV is forcing an expensive camera on you if you wish to use it.
No one said anything about me being forced to use iChat AV.
I was stating that once again Apple is limiting its business posibilities.
I got my quickcam express 2 or 3 years ago and I am still able to download the newest software and drivers, this applies to windows XP, I dont know if they ever supported Mac... Also they are always on windows update when they release a new version of the drivers. I havent seen any changes but i download them anyways for the sole purpose of seeing 0 updates needed from windows update:) hehehe...
My cheap as hell webcam works fine for streaming video. The quality is decent. And there is still nothing stopping me from going out and buying an awsome digital camcorder or firewire webcam and using that.
But to force it on someone is just bad business.
And what is all this crap about "mucking around" with the OS???
Both of my webcams are USB, they provide 30 fps of 320x240 video. (they can do 640x480 but most connections have a hard time uploading that) I got them, plugged them in, Windows made a little beeping sound and said, "your new hardware has been installed".
I was then able to access all of my video sources, that is 2 webcams, a tv tuner card, and a screen capture program (camtasia) from windows netmeeting, logitech's software (one of the webcams isn't a logitech but is selectable), the deinterlacer/scaler program dscaler, and virtualdub.
OMFG!!! Look!!! All my video sources were accesible from a MS product, a third party product, AND EVEN 2 SOURCEFORGE, OPENSOURCE PROJECTS!!!! Who would-a-thunk it???
Apple goes out of its way to make sure most people can't use thier stuff without spending lots of money.
"Apple, on the other hand, would sooner die than release anything that could be described as "stuttering" or "microscopic." In iChat AV, video is as crisp, clear, bright and smooth as television (640 by 480 pixels), in a window as small as a Triscuit or as big as your screen. Unless you begin to type, the typed-chat window isn't even visible during a video or audio call.
Beware, however: Apple offers this top-tier experience only if you have top-tier gear. Video calls require high-speed Internet connections at both ends; dial-up fans need not apply. Apple says that audio calls work over dial-up connections, but mine didn't work without a broadband hookup on at least one end.
And iChat AV turns up its nose at those U.S.B. golf-ball Webcams. It requires a video camera with FireWire (a very fast connector also found on every Macintosh).
For this purpose, you can use an ordinary digital camcorder - a clever money-saving twist - as long as your Mac has at least a G4 chip inside. You can use a golf-ball Webcam that connects via FireWire instead of U.S.B. Or you can use iSight, the new $150 camera-microphone appliance that Apple unveiled Monday as an optional partner for iChat AV."
I like my 2 cheap ass novelty webcams, dammit!
Not everyone has the money to buy some bad ass digital camcorder!
Such quality is really only needed in a corporate setting. For which lots of applications already exist and people wouldn't be using MSN or iChat.
Why has this not been implemented anywhere?
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I think all the big Open Source projects should have this.
Have a feature request link on the website. After the link is pressed a text box to explain the feature is given and paypal/credit card payment system that allows you to list the amount of money (if you wish) to reward the programmer(s) who complete your task.
This would turn open source development into a market economy, more so than it is now. Big companies can afford to put a OS developer on their payroll to help out and obviously the companies interests would be the programmers first priority, but the smaller end users would now be able to offer $1, $5, $10, $25, $50, $100 (or however much it is worth to them) to who ever comes out with a patch that fixes their problem or adds their requested functionality.
Others who wish to see this feature/bug fix implemented could contribute to the fund in whatever increment they choose.
I know 50 bucks doesnâ(TM)t seem like much but some of the bug fixes and features that users request are easy to implement and are just tedious, little, small changes that no one wants to do. This small monetary incentive might speed things up a bit. 50 bucks can also be seen as a 50 dollar coupon on your next computer component purchase. The vast majority of computer components that arenâ(TM)t the top of the line are about 50-200 bucks. CPUs, MB, HDD, CD/DVD R/RW, add in cards, graphics cards, sound cards, scanner, printer, flash memory.
There are probably some particulars that would need to be worked out if the bug fix/feature is coded by more than one person. But such disputes could go to the project maintainer to divvy out the funds correctly.
Who was the idiot who thought they could get away with FreeCraft?!?!?!?!
Anyways, since this is a trademark dispute can't the freecraft team simply rename the project and everything will be fine?
Blizzard can't do anyhtign about features from their games showing up in others' games.
They must become interoperable the second they begin offering "advanced IM services" such as integrated video in instant messaging.
This has yet to happen.
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iChat AV is forcing an expensive camera on you if you wish to use it. No one said anything about me being forced to use iChat AV. I was stating that once again Apple is limiting its business posibilities.
look high quality on USB... wow.... 50 bucks cheaper too. Quick Cam Pro 4000
A 4 way video chat would be cool. Its very hard to plan things in a group in a chat room but I think a video/audio chat would work well.
I got my quickcam express 2 or 3 years ago and I am still able to download the newest software and drivers, this applies to windows XP, I dont know if they ever supported Mac... Also they are always on windows update when they release a new version of the drivers. I havent seen any changes but i download them anyways for the sole purpose of seeing 0 updates needed from windows update :) hehehe...
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My cheap as hell webcam works fine for streaming video. The quality is decent. And there is still nothing stopping me from going out and buying an awsome digital camcorder or firewire webcam and using that.
But to force it on someone is just bad business.
And what is all this crap about "mucking around" with the OS???
Both of my webcams are USB, they provide 30 fps of 320x240 video. (they can do 640x480 but most connections have a hard time uploading that) I got them, plugged them in, Windows made a little beeping sound and said, "your new hardware has been installed".
I was then able to access all of my video sources, that is 2 webcams, a tv tuner card, and a screen capture program (camtasia) from windows netmeeting, logitech's software (one of the webcams isn't a logitech but is selectable), the deinterlacer/scaler program dscaler, and virtualdub.
OMFG!!! Look!!! All my video sources were accesible from a MS product, a third party product, AND EVEN 2 SOURCEFORGE, OPENSOURCE PROJECTS!!!! Who would-a-thunk it???
"Apple, on the other hand, would sooner die than release anything that could be described as "stuttering" or "microscopic." In iChat AV, video is as crisp, clear, bright and smooth as television (640 by 480 pixels), in a window as small as a Triscuit or as big as your screen. Unless you begin to type, the typed-chat window isn't even visible during a video or audio call. Beware, however: Apple offers this top-tier experience only if you have top-tier gear. Video calls require high-speed Internet connections at both ends; dial-up fans need not apply. Apple says that audio calls work over dial-up connections, but mine didn't work without a broadband hookup on at least one end. And iChat AV turns up its nose at those U.S.B. golf-ball Webcams. It requires a video camera with FireWire (a very fast connector also found on every Macintosh). For this purpose, you can use an ordinary digital camcorder - a clever money-saving twist - as long as your Mac has at least a G4 chip inside. You can use a golf-ball Webcam that connects via FireWire instead of U.S.B. Or you can use iSight, the new $150 camera-microphone appliance that Apple unveiled Monday as an optional partner for iChat AV."
I like my 2 cheap ass novelty webcams, dammit!
Not everyone has the money to buy some bad ass digital camcorder!
Such quality is really only needed in a corporate setting. For which lots of applications already exist and people wouldn't be using MSN or iChat.
I think all the big Open Source projects should have this.
Have a feature request link on the website. After the link is pressed a text box to explain the feature is given and paypal/credit card payment system that allows you to list the amount of money (if you wish) to reward the programmer(s) who complete your task.
This would turn open source development into a market economy, more so than it is now. Big companies can afford to put a OS developer on their payroll to help out and obviously the companies interests would be the programmers first priority, but the smaller end users would now be able to offer $1, $5, $10, $25, $50, $100 (or however much it is worth to them) to who ever comes out with a patch that fixes their problem or adds their requested functionality.
Others who wish to see this feature/bug fix implemented could contribute to the fund in whatever increment they choose.
I know 50 bucks doesnâ(TM)t seem like much but some of the bug fixes and features that users request are easy to implement and are just tedious, little, small changes that no one wants to do. This small monetary incentive might speed things up a bit. 50 bucks can also be seen as a 50 dollar coupon on your next computer component purchase. The vast majority of computer components that arenâ(TM)t the top of the line are about 50-200 bucks. CPUs, MB, HDD, CD/DVD R/RW, add in cards, graphics cards, sound cards, scanner, printer, flash memory.
There are probably some particulars that would need to be worked out if the bug fix/feature is coded by more than one person. But such disputes could go to the project maintainer to divvy out the funds correctly.
Who was the idiot who thought they could get away with FreeCraft?!?!?!?! Anyways, since this is a trademark dispute can't the freecraft team simply rename the project and everything will be fine? Blizzard can't do anyhtign about features from their games showing up in others' games.
They must become interoperable the second they begin offering "advanced IM services" such as integrated video in instant messaging. This has yet to happen.