Why spend that much time on a proprietary OS just to make it 'work'? Seems that's the manufacturers responsibility of fitness, not the end users. Homepage
I already wasted many hours of my life building nlited XP CDs. It's the only way to stop all the "non-uninstallable" crap from getting on there in the first place.
Then perhaps you need to make yourself learned about Eucalyptus.
I would also learn about a little used language called Erlang and how it works. Something screams ultra-distributed network there. Im sure Haskell or Lisp could do similar, but updating programs while users are on it active, just seems so much more powerful.
Oh, it absolutely can. Current transaction costs are exacted by Banks and credit companies. Their merchant fees are insane, something on the range of.5-2$ + 3%. And banks have straight 2-4$ fees for anything money handling. If a digital microcurrency could be made using strong crypto (1995 paper by RSA guys showed how to do it), then we could cut out the banks, other than trading in and out of the microcurrency.
---Sure, you can make a system that reduces the seller's transaction costs to near zero, but all this work has completely ignored the buyer's transaction costs. With micropayments, you're asking your customers to spend more time managing their micro-account than the product you're selling is worth.
Do you honestly think that transaction management of costs ranging from.01 cents (yes, 1/100 of 1 cent) all the way up should be done by a person? What're you smoking?
Your "PayBox" is a forwards and backwards counting micropayment machine. You make the rules on what you allow, and what you deny. You set warnings when certain thresholds are met. You make the general rules, or use preconfigured ones. You can override these "rules" by warning you what the rule break does.
Eventually, everybody would be able to use a micropayment architecture, including massive media. It'd be rather nice if we create the content, and have a very small, nonzero price that we actually pay for our surfing.
---Suppose I have a micropayment account which charges to my credit card each month. I read all the articles I want because, hey, it's only a few cents. One of these days I'm going to look at my statement and the total for that month will be over $100 -- more than I intended to spend.
Your financial rules would have stopped that before you "saw the bill".
---Micropayments are not good for the customers, and unsurprisingly, people have not been willing to pay them.
You're right they're not good for customers, because money handles make is impossible to throw a 1$ at a website for good information without spending 5$ to do so.
Im investigating a business that does precisely this: enables people to make money.
It's the pirates first, but when will it be "Dear Ol Auntie" who gets bit with malware or extreme mistrust by a company (surprise). An attack on "Dear Ol Auntie" has already been done by Sony with little to no real punishment.
We'd like to think that a music recommendation engine would be impartial and fair. The engine is, but the people arent. And aside from that, they most likely broke laws when they handed out identifying information to their corporate owner. There's a lot of laws regarding data security in places like California and throughout the EC.
If Microsoft uses their patents related to crippling their OS, then we will eventually have users.
Right now, Vista64 users must use signed drivers... even if self signed. When will they migrate to a model of Approved Drivers and buying kernel modules to enable parts of the system?
Figured I'd make some comments about your adventure.
1) Installation is awesome.
Absolutely. I like using the computer to test for stuff while installing. Using that mode as a demonstration is rather powerful too.
2) Adding third party software is a MAJOR PAIN IN THE ASS!!! Following instrustions meant for a noob, I screwed it up 3/5 times. I swear I can follow instructions. I earn a living on fixing comptuer problems and following instructions.
Usually, most of the software you need are already in the main archives+medibiuntu. Sometimes, you need PPA (personal archives) for some software. And usually they fail to provide signing keys. It gives a bitch about unsigned software, but just continue on.
3) Why do Linux programs close themselves? I dont' think they are crashing. Like I add a software source then hit close, it updates, gives me an error about my key not working, then terminates! So I have to reopen it.
Sometimes, they are crashing. Firefox had a problem like that where it would just close. Now, if you run a console (Applications-Accessories-terminal) and run firefox there, you can see when it exits if it's a crash. Usually Firefox segfaults if it crashes. You can do this with other programs to see if they spit error messages to console before leaving.f you kill the first program, it doesnt touch the second one. Unix based machines do different. If you call a program and that program calls program 2, and then you proceed to kill the first program, it kills both. The idea here is if you kill a parent process, you kill all he children processes. You can see this by giving a kill signal to init (the master process that runs everything). It proceeds to shut down the machine... or hang it.
Also, in the Windows world, when a program runs another program, they both run as though invoked by the user. That means if you kill the first program, it doesnt touch the second one. Unix based machines do different. If you call a program and that program calls program 2, and then you proceed to kill the first program, it kills both. The idea here is if you kill a parent process, you kill all he children processes. You can see this by giving a kill signal to init (the master process that runs everything). It proceeds to shut down the machine... or hang it.
4) Step 3 gave me an error, so naturally, I copied it to the clipboard. I click on okay and the error dissapears, terminating the program. My error, that WAS in the clipboard is now gone... Awesome.
Weirdness: There's 2 clipboards in Linux. There's an XWindows clipboard and a Gnome Clipboard. Simply highlighting stores stuff in the XWin clipboard (middle-mouse pastes text from this buffer). The right_click-copy and right_click-paste does so from Gnome clipboard.
There's a few other weird things that also occur. One is CTRL+backspace actually works. It deletes the last word you typed, which is damned handy in coding. Windows does it too, but broken.
5) Key signing for software packages is a pain in the ass & comlpicated. Surely there can be an easier way to get this working. How about downloading a file that contains the software source, and the key togeather and then import the file? I still can't get this thing working...
Key management is always going to be a pig to set up, just because it's supposed to be. The understanding is we don't want people injecting bad packages (think what would happen if you installed a hacked ssh-server or kernel module). Admittedly, package maintainers on PPAs should make their keys and sign their packages, but most dont. And you will get warnings about that. I guess it'll be fixed eventually when key management becomes more advanced.
6) Synaptic Software manager's sorting is crappy. I open it up search for xbmc and see packages availalbe for installation. I can click the column headers and sort, but for some reason, when I select a package, the list unsorts! This makes it hard to select packages of similar type (skins in this case).
TPB are potential buyers. For our reasons, they might have even bought before. The key is we just dont know.
Assuming we want more money, how do we attract these people to pay for our product?
Do we sue? We might get a judgment, or the suit might 'warn' others. Or they could be judgment-proof or just not care. By then though, you alienate users that either have bought or gettng ready to buy.
Then we have a class of users who want goods and the companies refuse to bring them. There's a lot of 'limbo' books, music and movies that have no delineated owner. Piracy is the best option here because no money's made anyways.
And going by your prior posts, you're a copyright lover. Remember that copyright is supposed to serve us as a people. When it's not is a sign or either steep reform or to trash the whole idea.
Ethical or not, you will have to deal with a culture that accepts downloading as "victimless". The numbers of people downloading and trading are growing every day. You cant stop this.
Its the media's choice to either take criminal or tort action, or encourage them to buy. Somehow, suing your potential buyers is just a bad practice. It sure didnt work for SCO.
Although completely off topic, you may want to read this and this before you make any more comments about your drug policy.
In a nutshell: the Socialists and Communists in Portugal came together and said that drug (ab)users are patients, not criminals, and should be offered treatment options. Those dealing should still be criminalized. The cost of the treatment options would be much less than the cost of incarceration.
After 5 years of full implementation, drug use has dropped in all levels. AIDS infections dropped by 75%. Overall health levels have risen, as was the goal. And the negative possible result of these "patient" laws was that Portugal would be a drug mecca. It has not, since dealing is still treated as harsh as before.
As of now, sites dont do that, nor have an easy way to "verify" that content got on the screen. Or, it could be covered with pixels the same as the background for all it knows.
Sounds like you want some sort of Turing complete ad injection mechanism. Good luck with that.
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Erm.... Adblock Plus and noscript took care of them for years. Why start offering good posters "candy" we've had for years? I have no qualms about blocking every ad and interstitial out there. Its your choice to put them there. Its my choice to "not consume".
And go ahead, detect Im using ABP and NS. I'll start using a blocking proxy. Simply solved. What's it again? apt-get install squid?
Which shows why we need TPM like devices for computers such as these.
What would happen if, instead, humans started sending out really bad warnings or spamming completely wrong information?..while on the Interstate... " HIT BRAKE. ACCIDENT AHEAD"... and your car listens.
A TPM, or some sort of signing mechanism could avert the problems above.
It can only spread to other.exe files that wine has access to read/write. Most likely though, wine is running as your user permission so it could potentially infect all your.exe's.
Most other things via a wine environment are sufficiently screwed up so the infection is localized to your machine.
You make it sound that all these Vista haters are here to hate on Vista more. I dont know about you, or anybody else for that matter. All I have are my experiences.
1. Win2k worked awesome. Only bad thing was no builtin wifi applet. 2. WinXP worked ok. Near the end, it worked the most flawlessly of any MS product. 3. Vista changed the whole interface with no to negative gain. 4. Most malwares are aimed at MS's systems.
When I bought my recent laptop, I had them put on XP. It worked ok, but not great. I ran the standard suite of anti-attack web apps (firefox and like). But I was still in the target category. I finally went to Ubuntu around 8.04 and have stayed with it. I do have a copy of XP installed in VirtualBox for the cases that I absolutely need it. And I get full updates for my whole core system, which kicks ass.
And I have clients who have "switched" to Vista due to just plainly not offering XP. One individual was on 98 first, then 2k, then XP, and finally Vista. The interface stayed mostly the same (I disabled the fischer-price color scheme on XP). Now, when it came to vista, everything was changed and screwed up. Buttons that once did X now does Z. Other buttons that were there now just arent. Schemes to revert to older style doesnt revert every feature (just enough to be a bother). And even after buying that new computer, it's still perceivably slower than XP or others.
Now, do I have some irrational hatred against MS or Vista? Nope. I just listen to my clients and they, in general, hate it due to changes that do no benefit.
For pay media: You pay for crippled formats that work on "approved devices". BitTorrent/Sneakernet : You get for free, formats that work anywhere on any device that can play that format.
As I repeat, why pay when better quality is for free?
1) Assuming you just ran touch like you said, and you didn't actually think ahead to disable those features (since you didn't say anything about that), they'll be able to trivially disprove this. 2) How are you doing this? Disabling 'last access time' is pretty straight forward in many file systems, disabling 'creation date' not so much
Do you have reading comprehension problems? I said nothing about touch. And disabling ctime is trivial in Linux.
Yeah that'll fly. Care to explain why the EXIF meta data in the actual file put there by the camera shows the correct date? Now we've got you outright lying... again. Oh, and Judge,... we'd like a warrant for this camera to prove it... Digging the hole deeper is not the best way out of a hole.
Yeah, cause my camera is a junky consumer model that resets time and date back to whatever defaults it uses. Its too much a hassle to bother to reset it again whenever i change the batteries.
Oh, and here's the camera and batteries. I took the batts out so you can show the jury. Moron
My answer: I dont bother with creation or access time so I disabled it. It gives me 1MB/s faster access on my files (or whatever). And it's a 'feature' I dont need. Now the original timestamps are probably created with that blasted camera. It's always screwing up one way or another cause it never keeps time/date right.
I'm on Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Every filename is displayed in full, as does every directory name. As expected,.files and.directories are hidden from nautilus. You can easily unhide them by CTRL+H or the menu. Symbolic links have a => arrow in the right upper corner signifying target is elsewhere. Binary programs are not set, by default to execute. You must set the execute flag to ON (or run "/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2/path/to/binary"). Scripts are the same way.
The fact (and yes, a fact) that the show was terrible and not anywhere near the comics or prior shows is one thing.
My point was that you cannot BUY the workprint. Later, you will be able to buy the DVD, but the workprint stays internal. Now, especially film buffs and amateur cinematographers can better understand the production phases with a leaked work.
Exactly what "special features" does YouTube plan to offer? If they compete with TPB, they already lost. But they're free to find that out.
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Well, relativity simply solved.
All we need to do is find an object that has a magnetosphere and no aqueous sea.
How about the Sun?
I heard "apt-get remove" is good at that.
Why spend that much time on a proprietary OS just to make it 'work'? Seems that's the manufacturers responsibility of fitness, not the end users. Homepage
I already wasted many hours of my life building nlited XP CDs.
It's the only way to stop all the "non-uninstallable" crap from getting on there in the first place.
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Then perhaps you need to make yourself learned about Eucalyptus.
I would also learn about a little used language called Erlang and how it works. Something screams ultra-distributed network there. Im sure Haskell or Lisp could do similar, but updating programs while users are on it active, just seems so much more powerful.
---This problem cannot be solved by technology.
Oh, it absolutely can. Current transaction costs are exacted by Banks and credit companies. Their merchant fees are insane, something on the range of .5-2$ + 3%. And banks have straight 2-4$ fees for anything money handling. If a digital microcurrency could be made using strong crypto (1995 paper by RSA guys showed how to do it), then we could cut out the banks, other than trading in and out of the microcurrency.
---Sure, you can make a system that reduces the seller's transaction costs to near zero, but all this work has completely ignored the buyer's transaction costs. With micropayments, you're asking your customers to spend more time managing their micro-account than the product you're selling is worth.
Do you honestly think that transaction management of costs ranging from .01 cents (yes, 1/100 of 1 cent) all the way up should be done by a person? What're you smoking?
Your "PayBox" is a forwards and backwards counting micropayment machine. You make the rules on what you allow, and what you deny. You set warnings when certain thresholds are met. You make the general rules, or use preconfigured ones. You can override these "rules" by warning you what the rule break does.
Eventually, everybody would be able to use a micropayment architecture, including massive media. It'd be rather nice if we create the content, and have a very small, nonzero price that we actually pay for our surfing.
---Suppose I have a micropayment account which charges to my credit card each month. I read all the articles I want because, hey, it's only a few cents. One of these days I'm going to look at my statement and the total for that month will be over $100 -- more than I intended to spend.
Your financial rules would have stopped that before you "saw the bill".
---Micropayments are not good for the customers, and unsurprisingly, people have not been willing to pay them.
You're right they're not good for customers, because money handles make is impossible to throw a 1$ at a website for good information without spending 5$ to do so.
Im investigating a business that does precisely this: enables people to make money.
What about guys who liked Sailor Moon? :) Try watching the originals, not the mutilated crap shown here in the US... Those lesbians were hot!
It's the pirates first, but when will it be "Dear Ol Auntie" who gets bit with malware or extreme mistrust by a company (surprise). An attack on "Dear Ol Auntie" has already been done by Sony with little to no real punishment.
We'd like to think that a music recommendation engine would be impartial and fair. The engine is, but the people arent. And aside from that, they most likely broke laws when they handed out identifying information to their corporate owner. There's a lot of laws regarding data security in places like California and throughout the EC.
If Microsoft uses their patents related to crippling their OS, then we will eventually have users.
Right now, Vista64 users must use signed drivers... even if self signed. When will they migrate to a model of Approved Drivers and buying kernel modules to enable parts of the system?
Think Steam+Windows. And think 10$ price point.
Figured I'd make some comments about your adventure.
1) Installation is awesome.
Absolutely. I like using the computer to test for stuff while installing. Using that mode as a demonstration is rather powerful too.
2) Adding third party software is a MAJOR PAIN IN THE ASS!!! Following instrustions meant for a noob, I screwed it up 3/5 times. I swear I can follow instructions. I earn a living on fixing comptuer problems and following instructions.
Usually, most of the software you need are already in the main archives+medibiuntu. Sometimes, you need PPA (personal archives) for some software. And usually they fail to provide signing keys. It gives a bitch about unsigned software, but just continue on.
3) Why do Linux programs close themselves? I dont' think they are crashing. Like I add a software source then hit close, it updates, gives me an error about my key not working, then terminates! So I have to reopen it.
Sometimes, they are crashing. Firefox had a problem like that where it would just close. Now, if you run a console (Applications-Accessories-terminal) and run firefox there, you can see when it exits if it's a crash. Usually Firefox segfaults if it crashes. You can do this with other programs to see if they spit error messages to console before leaving.f you kill the first program, it doesnt touch the second one. Unix based machines do different. If you call a program and that program calls program 2, and then you proceed to kill the first program, it kills both. The idea here is if you kill a parent process, you kill all he children processes. You can see this by giving a kill signal to init (the master process that runs everything). It proceeds to shut down the machine... or hang it.
Also, in the Windows world, when a program runs another program, they both run as though invoked by the user. That means if you kill the first program, it doesnt touch the second one. Unix based machines do different. If you call a program and that program calls program 2, and then you proceed to kill the first program, it kills both. The idea here is if you kill a parent process, you kill all he children processes. You can see this by giving a kill signal to init (the master process that runs everything). It proceeds to shut down the machine... or hang it.
4) Step 3 gave me an error, so naturally, I copied it to the clipboard. I click on okay and the error dissapears, terminating the program. My error, that WAS in the clipboard is now gone... Awesome.
Weirdness: There's 2 clipboards in Linux. There's an XWindows clipboard and a Gnome Clipboard. Simply highlighting stores stuff in the XWin clipboard (middle-mouse pastes text from this buffer). The right_click-copy and right_click-paste does so from Gnome clipboard.
There's a few other weird things that also occur. One is CTRL+backspace actually works. It deletes the last word you typed, which is damned handy in coding. Windows does it too, but broken.
5) Key signing for software packages is a pain in the ass & comlpicated. Surely there can be an easier way to get this working. How about downloading a file that contains the software source, and the key togeather and then import the file? I still can't get this thing working...
Key management is always going to be a pig to set up, just because it's supposed to be. The understanding is we don't want people injecting bad packages (think what would happen if you installed a hacked ssh-server or kernel module). Admittedly, package maintainers on PPAs should make their keys and sign their packages, but most dont. And you will get warnings about that. I guess it'll be fixed eventually when key management becomes more advanced.
6) Synaptic Software manager's sorting is crappy. I open it up search for xbmc and see packages availalbe for installation. I can click the column headers and sort, but for some reason, when I select a package, the list unsorts! This makes it hard to select packages of similar type (skins in this case).
True, synaptic isn't ter
TPB are potential buyers. For our reasons, they might have even bought before. The key is we just dont know.
Assuming we want more money, how do we attract these people to pay for our product?
Do we sue? We might get a judgment, or the suit might 'warn' others. Or they could be judgment-proof or just not care. By then though, you alienate users that either have bought or gettng ready to buy.
Then we have a class of users who want goods and the companies refuse to bring them. There's a lot of 'limbo' books, music and movies that have no delineated owner. Piracy is the best option here because no money's made anyways.
And going by your prior posts, you're a copyright lover. Remember that copyright is supposed to serve us as a people. When it's not is a sign or either steep reform or to trash the whole idea.
Ethical or not, you will have to deal with a culture that accepts downloading as "victimless". The numbers of people downloading and trading are growing every day. You cant stop this.
Its the media's choice to either take criminal or tort action, or encourage them to buy. Somehow, suing your potential buyers is just a bad practice. It sure didnt work for SCO.
Although completely off topic, you may want to read this and this before you make any more comments about your drug policy.
In a nutshell: the Socialists and Communists in Portugal came together and said that drug (ab)users are patients, not criminals, and should be offered treatment options. Those dealing should still be criminalized. The cost of the treatment options would be much less than the cost of incarceration.
After 5 years of full implementation, drug use has dropped in all levels. AIDS infections dropped by 75%. Overall health levels have risen, as was the goal. And the negative possible result of these "patient" laws was that Portugal would be a drug mecca. It has not, since dealing is still treated as harsh as before.
WHEN it happens, Ill take interest.
As of now, sites dont do that, nor have an easy way to "verify" that content got on the screen. Or, it could be covered with pixels the same as the background for all it knows.
Sounds like you want some sort of Turing complete ad injection mechanism. Good luck with that.
They decided to take the case. That makes them in part responsible for this garbage.
Perhaps if no attorney is willing to take cases against the public, would laws be a bit more civil.
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Erm.... Adblock Plus and noscript took care of them for years. Why start offering good posters "candy" we've had for years? I have no qualms about blocking every ad and interstitial out there. Its your choice to put them there. Its my choice to "not consume".
And go ahead, detect Im using ABP and NS. I'll start using a blocking proxy. Simply solved. What's it again? apt-get install squid?
Which shows why we need TPM like devices for computers such as these.
What would happen if, instead, humans started sending out really bad warnings or spamming completely wrong information? ..while on the Interstate... " HIT BRAKE. ACCIDENT AHEAD" ... and your car listens.
A TPM, or some sort of signing mechanism could avert the problems above.
It can only spread to other .exe files that wine has access to read/write. Most likely though, wine is running as your user permission so it could potentially infect all your .exe's.
Most other things via a wine environment are sufficiently screwed up so the infection is localized to your machine.
My lenovo T61 thinkpad has it explicitly ENABLED.
I bought that with the demand that I can turn it on at will.
You make it sound that all these Vista haters are here to hate on Vista more. I dont know about you, or anybody else for that matter. All I have are my experiences.
1. Win2k worked awesome. Only bad thing was no builtin wifi applet.
2. WinXP worked ok. Near the end, it worked the most flawlessly of any MS product.
3. Vista changed the whole interface with no to negative gain.
4. Most malwares are aimed at MS's systems.
When I bought my recent laptop, I had them put on XP. It worked ok, but not great. I ran the standard suite of anti-attack web apps (firefox and like). But I was still in the target category. I finally went to Ubuntu around 8.04 and have stayed with it. I do have a copy of XP installed in VirtualBox for the cases that I absolutely need it. And I get full updates for my whole core system, which kicks ass.
And I have clients who have "switched" to Vista due to just plainly not offering XP. One individual was on 98 first, then 2k, then XP, and finally Vista. The interface stayed mostly the same (I disabled the fischer-price color scheme on XP). Now, when it came to vista, everything was changed and screwed up. Buttons that once did X now does Z. Other buttons that were there now just arent. Schemes to revert to older style doesnt revert every feature (just enough to be a bother). And even after buying that new computer, it's still perceivably slower than XP or others.
Now, do I have some irrational hatred against MS or Vista? Nope. I just listen to my clients and they, in general, hate it due to changes that do no benefit.
That's incorrect.
By default, unless an executable bit is set, the linux program will not run.
By default, once you install wine, the exec bit IS on wine.
You do not need a bit set on a windows program for wine to execute it.
Try it: go get calc.exe , copy it to your ubuntu desktop, set exec=off and run it via "wine calc.exe".
He said she said is against the whoe idea.
For pay media: You pay for crippled formats that work on "approved devices".
BitTorrent/Sneakernet : You get for free, formats that work anywhere on any device that can play that format.
As I repeat, why pay when better quality is for free?
Do you have reading comprehension problems? I said nothing about touch. And disabling ctime is trivial in Linux.
Yeah, cause my camera is a junky consumer model that resets time and date back to whatever defaults it uses. Its too much a hassle to bother to reset it again whenever i change the batteries.
Oh, and here's the camera and batteries. I took the batts out so you can show the jury. Moron
HEY! I take offense to that!
im not THAT deadly.
My answer: I dont bother with creation or access time so I disabled it. It gives me 1MB/s faster access on my files (or whatever). And it's a 'feature' I dont need. Now the original timestamps are probably created with that blasted camera. It's always screwing up one way or another cause it never keeps time/date right.
I'm on Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop .files and .directories are hidden from nautilus. You can easily unhide them by CTRL+H or the menu. /path/to/binary"). Scripts are the same way.
Every filename is displayed in full, as does every directory name.
As expected,
Symbolic links have a => arrow in the right upper corner signifying target is elsewhere.
Binary programs are not set, by default to execute. You must set the execute flag to ON (or run "/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
The fact (and yes, a fact) that the show was terrible and not anywhere near the comics or prior shows is one thing.
My point was that you cannot BUY the workprint. Later, you will be able to buy the DVD, but the workprint stays internal. Now, especially film buffs and amateur cinematographers can better understand the production phases with a leaked work.
Exactly what "special features" does YouTube plan to offer? If they compete with TPB, they already lost. But they're free to find that out.