1.2 TB movies/seasons/anime.. Some 0day, some legit:D Lotta good.
And its all fed to our "AV" computer at our tv. On demand music/movies/games (from psx,psx2,snes,n64,dreamcast emulators). Ubuntu's never seen soo good (running 8.10).
The best is when you put a dvd in the drive, it rips to the server as an iso for play anywhere on the network. Thats why im staying away from BD until I can code that level of automation. If I cant, its piratbay instead. Their content always plays...
Theres something you fail to say: Life needs certain trace heavy elements to live (as far as we've seen on all earth life). I'd accept that certain processes require certain heavy elements.
Those heavy elements can only be created en masse by a 3'rd generation solar system. If I recall correctly, that puts 6-10 billion years on our life-cap.
If those numbers are true, it could mean that WE are the first in our galaxy. As some interesting numbers (but completely unprovable), one set of pessimistic numbers for the drake eq puts out 1.4 species per galaxy...
Thats mostly correct. However, one loses energy due to signals emanating perpendicular to the ionosphere, in which they are lost. That point was proved by Tesla while looking at global power systems. This could be reduced by reflectors on the antenna preventing those directions.
Why would the industry be willing to go to a bitch-fest where they are the targets? I know if I was in charge of profiteering, I sure wouldnt go to a university to say that Im right... I'd hide away under the senators and congresscritters desks while passing out hundreds to get what I want passed.
---I'm thinking this basic idea is a large part of the MPAA's motivation the move to higher and higher HD, for instance; in the extreme, they could give up on encryption, and replace it with a known nontrivial problem: Downsampling and recoding video. It's not quite the same magnitude as factoring products of large primes, but it's still a computational pain in the butt when you're talking about a 50GB Blu-Ray disc.
I think its fair to say that even if cpu speeds hold steady, our cores will grow. Given that, I'd venture how one beats the resolution problem is thus: scene detection and video computation per scene. Parallelization solves much of those perceived complexity issues.
And it only takes 1 pirate to transcode it to smaller.
---I disagree with the person who suggested copyright be limited to 20 years. Any individual who creates an original work should be able to exploit that work exclusively for the rest of their lives. They took the risk, invested their creative energies, and invested their own money. They should reap all the rewards. If they are paid a regular salary by someone else to spend all their time researching and developing products, then the company who pays them should own what they create. The company took the financial risk. The company should reap the financial reward.
Do you know why 20 years was chosen? It all goes back to what Isaac Newton said
"If I have seen further it is by standing on ye shoulders of Giants." -Isaac Newton
What makes you think you are exempt from our culture? Every photo you took was made by in influence on you from the collective of this culture. Along with that, every photo you take and publish enriches our culture. What gives you an enlightened position that says you have the right to divorce yourself from this culture by demanding money forever?
If you want to do so, then we, as the US demand royalties for living in a copyrighted culture.
---How many individual intellectual property creators get rich? How many bands, artists, photographers, composers, writers are there vs. those that get rich? Less than 1 percent. The term "starving artist" is not a meaningless phrase. Are you jealous of ones that do like Steven Spielberg, Ron Howard, Steven Tyler, Mick Jagger, Annie Leibovitz? Ansel Adam's work has earned more money in the 24 years since his death in 1984 than he earned over his entire life. Do you think his heirs should be robbed of that?
Do I think the heirs are deserving of money from copyright? Absolutely not. When the creator dies, the copyrights should be returned to the public. I see no reason to endow monies to children or children's children just because one person did well. Let the children create and they will have a chance to make large sums of money.
Although, in the end it will not be your viewpoint that turns out. I do agree with copyright, dont get me wrong, but on the very limited terms when our country was founded. I agree with the middle road: not one that supports infinite copyright, nor the complete absence.
I think we both can agree that the reason for copyright is to encourage creators to create. There will always be creators who want no money for their works, but we would lose out on some potentially powerful creations of content.
What would you propose to do to "give thanks" to the creators?
And Ill assume that buying shit from Wal-Mart doesn't guarantee fitness?
I'll set you on a little secret: when you buy something, you expect a certain quality.
You cant sell a connection, and then leave it down 100% of the time, while cowing "we promised connection, not service". No, we dont demand t1-based service contracts, but we do demand what we're told we thought we bought.
---The guy tries to work a pc by tapping the little icons on the screen with his finger, I swear to god. Let me give you a little true story about him and, as I later found out, a bunch from his twenty something generation around here (rural south).
I do computer consulting around these areas (linux fileservers for the companies with DRBD if requested), and I've seen such activity from people who were about ready to get their doctorate. I used to be computer-elitist but I grew out of that phase. Everybody has their own forte which can be brought out by proper experience and training.
Even though, I am not a professor, I called out an anthropology prof because he thought the same way I think you do: that there are people who can never learn, even when poked and prodded. I do not accept that, thought many do.
I snipped the story about your ex-brother-in-law, but I think that would have been an extraordinary opportunity for the court to issue probation to get his GED. Since we're at it, we could even offer free college (even though many would not take it). However, I believe this offer must be made to show we care about those who have little and are left to the legal system to take care of. At least, this would provide a route to those who recognize the merits of higher education and absolve monetary reasons for them.
---I was lucky-most of my teenage years I was homeschooled by a full time mother who loved Asimov and Heinlein and had a large library full of great horror and sci-fi to stimulate my mind when I wasn't doing the three R's. But more and more I am seeing folks like my ex brother in law who was just passed without caring if he could read by the school system, and whose parents simply sat them down in front of the idiot box(perfect name for it) until time for bed. In the old days they could have at least worked factory or construction or one of the many other blue collar jobs. But now those days are going and we are having an ever growing underclass that simply will not be able to compete in an educational setting, period.
That you were lucky. I graduated in 2000 and were subject to the public education system. So to say, it put me back about 3 years as I was not even remotely prepared for the university. After 2 years, I tried to go, and failed miserably. Not to promote myself, but I thought I was better than those that had to be taught concepts, rather people like me who taught themselves. I failed by the simple rote homework that many professors require, as I am used to learning something for a term (2-5 months) and then do something tremendous with it.
As my experience showed, I do best with classes that focus on learning the whole time, with a major project/paper near the end. Quizzes scattered about are nice to show comprehension.
---And while I agree that government spending could help like in the depression, the whole "cut the checks for the bankers" bit isn't going to help anyone but the rich who'll be taking their money offshore as the dollar tanks. What we need is a WPA style program to fix our failing bridges and crumbling infrastructure and to wire the country with the national high speed networks we will need to compete. And I apologize for the length, and I am sure that you believe what you say. But after spending nearly a year trying to educate some of these guys I can tell you this-if they have reached 20 without any real kind of intellectual stimulation you can pretty much give it up. Their minds have been dulled to the point that with years of work you MIGHT get him to 6th grade, but he and his buddies will never be college material. Sadly in most of these little rural towns all the money is spent on the sports teams while the education is pisspoor at best. Which is why places like India and China are going to be kicking our ass in the number of PHDs if they aren't already. But this is my 02c on the subject, and I sincerely hope that we get some leadership after the shrub that will actually DO something besides pander to his rich buddies.
I personally do not think any racial demographic has any bearing when it comes to education and learning material for supposed college credit.
To say it does implies that niggers, spics or honkeys aren't as good as the other races in certain subjects. I find that view (even aptly called affirmative action) as reprehensible. Your ethnic identity does NOT indicate your intelligence level.
As for my color, I am a person who can think. That's all that matters.
---Even better question: what are they going to do with all the factory workers that simply CAN'T get an education? My ex brother in law has an IQ of maybe 105, and I know a LOT of guys like him. In my parents generation those with a strong back could afford to feed a family and buy a little home. Now the factories are nothing but decaying hulks, and what little work is left is being snapped up by illegal aliens that will work for a pittance while living ten to a rathole so they can take their money back home where they can live well.
After reading John Taylor Gatto's book, Undreground History of American Education. It's free to read on his website (he published 1 chapter per month free). Back in the 1800's, coal miners complained they had to work too hard and long that they couldnt inform themselves of happenings in government, along with enjoying of the Classics. That is a marked departure from today where they seek to watch the latest yuck on tv: complete and utter apathy.
I would never tell, myself included, that someone is not cut out on getting an education. Yes, some things are difficult, but all things are understandable. They may take time, but really, what are we going to do in the meanwhile?
---The simple fact is we have a black hole in this country, and it is only getting wider. Our money is being bleed to other countries while we make nothing but imaginary property which can be easily copied. I personally believe we'll end up in a ten year+ depression while will sadly in all likelihood be followed by a xenophobic fascist police state, circa Germany in the 30's. And the governments current folly of bailing out the investment bankers by printing more money is simply going to make the problem worse. And most sadly I don't see any way out of it, as it would require REAL long term planning and possibly even WPA style public works to rebuild our aging infrastructure and all of the corporations and public officials seem to be of the "damn everything but the quarterly report" types.
Do you know what saved our butts in the last Great Depression? Excessive government spending and coming up to a World War. We dont have the manufacturing base we once had, nor are we solvent as a country. Though a theory states that extreme interdependence on trade reduces warlike aggression, it does not eliminate it. I wonder what would happen if the USA found itself in a corner.
---The economics textbooks expound an UNPROVEN theory that is actually being misapplied.
Too true. I'm being inundated with conjectures from economic theory and pretty graphs that obviously account for diddly. After all this conjecture the basic question lies: How does one pay for goods when one does not have a job?
Or perhaps better yet, where are the foreign businesses outsourcing TO the USA? If their statements are true, we should see an influx roughly equal to what we ship out. We dont.
---You want division of labor, yes, but the economics books are applying a mathematical model to a real-world thing. Math is a wonderful tool, but it doesn't make for rules of how the world works (opposite thinking...) nor does those numbers force things to be something other than they're not.
I've read the theories. They have so many holes and assumptions and restrictions how they work, so I cant even figure WHY they can even use them in the cases they do. Comparative advantage is exactly that: assumes that production is stationary. We see exactly the opposite of this, by our manufacturing leap-frogging around the globe for the absolute cheapest prices. Something tells me that we seek the lowest prices (race to the bottom), but do not account for people to buy that very stuff. We saw this same behavior once before: The Great Depression. I guess that's the bad side effects of a surplus economy (or whatever they call it now).
---It looks good on paper to outsource to another country- for a couple of years, if that. In many cases, the outsource partner looks good on paper- but the reality of all the work you end up doing re-working their work (And, I know this from professional experience...) and all the lost reputation of your company because your product has vastly more defects when delivered (again...) ends up more often than not washing out any gains you might have gotten from the process. Add on to this that you're moving that money from your own country to another that only gives a damn about their own country (which is highly understandable, really...) and doesn't reinvest resources here- meaning that the money sunk in offshore outsourcing just went bye-bye... The math doesn't add up to what is going on right now. When the math doesn't add up; when the theories don't match up to what you're seeing- it's time to come up with new math and theories.
Yeah, the key word is "right now". Look at Japan. We thought nothing of them around the 50's and 60's, as they created cheap knock-offs of our superior goods. Now, we've slacked off and they create the goods we drool over.
This is happening in India, China, and everywhere else our influence exerts itself. While they may be inferior to us now, they will not be later one. After all, those two countries can literally brute force problems in ways we cannot imagine (something has to be said for 1.3B people each).
---The people keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting the results the theories tell them should be happening and all we're doing is spiraling back down into a Great Depression.
That would be my guess, considering how our money is constantly being devalued. Another of my worries was brought to my attention by a statistician: China is one of the biggest US Treasury Bond holders. What would happen if they were to play "hot potato" with them, and dump them on the international market? From all of her calculations, she is now investing IN China.
Why exactly is that assumption false? We are creating a country of ownership of ideas and not of production. That in of itself is a loss of power if we ever have a military action against those countries of of an ally of them.
This is the time you're supposed to prove me wrong... not show me maps of "not accounting for inflation" pretty graphs. Didn't you even read the comments below the graph, or did you just go "goo goo gaga pretty"? Erik Koht poignantly said that if we were to apply EU standards of living to the USA, 40% are in poverty level.. But even that tells not the whole story.
What I would venture is happening in our country is a ever-widening gulf between those who get paid to do and those who get paid to think. Our idea is we can just outsource it and sweep it under the rig, so to say. We have jobs that routinely get paid 100k+, and then we have 35k jobs. Those are the 2 working parent family households.. Manufacturing traditionally held that role of between intellectual and manual labor that a family could progress to higher socioeconomic ladders if they so chose.
I also have been told stories by the older generation that college could be paid off each year by working 40 hr/wk on summers. No more. Instead, we have corporations that demand we all have college, even traditionally they did not require it. Now, college has turned into a sorts of a new high school in which we pay to learn what once they would train on the job.
Unless we rebuild our nation, starting with our currency, then to manufacturing, and on, I can see us economically dying to countries like China and India that have almost 2 billion between them. Even during the Cold War, the USSR only had 200m civilians. That's a drop in the bucket compared to what China and India can do.. I wonder how high the Chinese could push oil? 200$ a barrel? 300$ a barrel? Or even our worst nightmare of switching OPEC to the Euro?
I didnt know it was THAT hard to apply for citizenship for each of those towns in Illinois.
On a real note: do you expect the working class to go to the countries jobs are now plentiful? And what makes you think that those countries will accept them?
---Maybe you're not seeing the long term gains of outsourcing.
I understand all right. It raises the whole world out of poverty by spreading the money where labor is cheap until they're equal with everybody else. That that means for me, my generation, and my children is that it effectively lowers our wages. I dont like that, and I think its fairly easy to see why.
Selling out our ability to create is just a bad idea altogether. It weakens our military and our ability to protect us.
---Maybe you failed to consider all the new factories that the outsourcing companies will have to build to handle the increased load? And what about all the people who will get new, higher paying jobs in those factories? And what about the the standard of living increase those people and their families get because of this? Oh wait, all those people will live in a different country. Racist much?
Smart much? Cause you aren't showing it. It's called nationalism, and yes. I have it. Since our world has no real idea of free travel and migrating citizenship (what Adam Smith believed), we are bound to our country. Because of that, I will attempt to make this country good to live in, and that means having jobs and money abound.
---In that case, maybe you're forgetting the poor people in our country that will be able to afford new computers now? And what about all the money that will be saved by people/companies who buy Dells?
If the poor people worked HERE instead of over there out of our territories, they could afford to buy them now. And pray tell, dont we see what the quality is when we seek the bottom? Or do you think lead is safe for children?
---If nothing else, look at it this way: Now that Dell has fewer employees doing manual labor, they'll be able to hire more people to design new, better machines.
In actuality, they will spend more on advertising, along with paying more to their top execs. The stock prices might go up some.
Ok then. Take for example our current manufacturing situation... We are hemorrhaging jobs from all markets for the manufacturing of goods. Instead, those jobs first went to Mexico. They ended up being too expensive, and the deals with China were brokered.
Along with China, India was also brought forth as a manufacturing country. Now, it appears they are too expensive, and our companies are off for cheaper places. Now, it is not arguable that China and India benefit from our presence. They do, however, is it advantageous that we put ourselves at a distance in terms to create?
I know where the USA wants to go towards: the brain of the world. Intellectual Property Capitol. Except they do this by selling off what got us here: our very industry to create. How would we do a Manhattan Project without every country knowing now? Buy this kit from this country, that kit from that country...
Thats exactly it: nobody with power cares for the long term maluses by strongly pushing outsourcing.
As long as the quarter looks good, its golden. Another question would be this: Why do the uber rich trading firms want to only see short term gains, and not longer term ones?
What financial disadvantage would there be if companies developed new things and technology, and continued further research going ahead up to 30-100 years? Ma Bell did that and we ended up with the transistor, lasers, Unix, C...
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I store a crapload of movies and music on mine.
.. Some 0day, some legit :D Lotta good.
1.2 TB movies/seasons/anime
And its all fed to our "AV" computer at our tv. On demand music/movies/games (from psx,psx2,snes,n64,dreamcast emulators). Ubuntu's never seen soo good (running 8.10).
The best is when you put a dvd in the drive, it rips to the server as an iso for play anywhere on the network. Thats why im staying away from BD until I can code that level of automation. If I cant, its piratbay instead. Their content always plays...
Really, who cares?
If I buy stuff and later deactivated without my consent, Im going to take power in my own hands. I dont need some nanny telling me what I will do.
Theres something you fail to say: Life needs certain trace heavy elements to live (as far as we've seen on all earth life). I'd accept that certain processes require certain heavy elements.
Those heavy elements can only be created en masse by a 3'rd generation solar system. If I recall correctly, that puts 6-10 billion years on our life-cap.
If those numbers are true, it could mean that WE are the first in our galaxy. As some interesting numbers (but completely unprovable), one set of pessimistic numbers for the drake eq puts out 1.4 species per galaxy...
Thats mostly correct. However, one loses energy due to signals emanating perpendicular to the ionosphere, in which they are lost. That point was proved by Tesla while looking at global power systems. This could be reduced by reflectors on the antenna preventing those directions.
Why would the industry be willing to go to a bitch-fest where they are the targets? I know if I was in charge of profiteering, I sure wouldnt go to a university to say that Im right... I'd hide away under the senators and congresscritters desks while passing out hundreds to get what I want passed.
---I'm thinking this basic idea is a large part of the MPAA's motivation the move to higher and higher HD, for instance; in the extreme, they could give up on encryption, and replace it with a known nontrivial problem: Downsampling and recoding video. It's not quite the same magnitude as factoring products of large primes, but it's still a computational pain in the butt when you're talking about a 50GB Blu-Ray disc.
I think its fair to say that even if cpu speeds hold steady, our cores will grow. Given that, I'd venture how one beats the resolution problem is thus: scene detection and video computation per scene. Parallelization solves much of those perceived complexity issues.
And it only takes 1 pirate to transcode it to smaller.
What a misguided, childish rant.
So, this is news? We see rants (and better quality at that) on the multitude of blogs. I guess we cant really count on anything else from cnet...
Thats because the US SMB2 was not a "Mario" game. It was a rebadged game called "Doki Doki Panic".
:P
The FDS game images exist on the net, as japanese reading comprehension needed is nil. And as expected, Doki is tougher.
Here's a link of differences along with the rom link here. No US SMB2 rom to compare. That'd be illegal
I'll assume that the DIY aircraft kit also has a DIY hospital kit too..
Today's lesson: Howto build a self anesthesia surgery setup
Tomorrow: Self post-op care
Blue/Yellow would not be optimal as per the blue/yellow operational color blindness.
Dark green text/Orange-ish yellow background seems to work well.
I never said we should support the little guy.
I just made the connection that our prices would probably approach double if AMD did die (or got out of the low-price sector).
AMD dies, then Intel will jack their rates up about double.
We saw something like this with Blu-Ray when HDDVD was announced to be dead.
And Via.. Well, they're VIA. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
---I disagree with the person who suggested copyright be limited to 20 years. Any individual who creates an original work should be able to exploit that work exclusively for the rest of their lives. They took the risk, invested their creative energies, and invested their own money. They should reap all the rewards. If they are paid a regular salary by someone else to spend all their time researching and developing products, then the company who pays them should own what they create. The company took the financial risk. The company should reap the financial reward.
Do you know why 20 years was chosen? It all goes back to what Isaac Newton said
"If I have seen further it is by standing on ye shoulders of Giants." -Isaac Newton
What makes you think you are exempt from our culture? Every photo you took was made by in influence on you from the collective of this culture. Along with that, every photo you take and publish enriches our culture. What gives you an enlightened position that says you have the right to divorce yourself from this culture by demanding money forever?
If you want to do so, then we, as the US demand royalties for living in a copyrighted culture.
---How many individual intellectual property creators get rich? How many bands, artists, photographers, composers, writers are there vs. those that get rich? Less than 1 percent. The term "starving artist" is not a meaningless phrase. Are you jealous of ones that do like Steven Spielberg, Ron Howard, Steven Tyler, Mick Jagger, Annie Leibovitz? Ansel Adam's work has earned more money in the 24 years since his death in 1984 than he earned over his entire life. Do you think his heirs should be robbed of that?
Do I think the heirs are deserving of money from copyright? Absolutely not. When the creator dies, the copyrights should be returned to the public. I see no reason to endow monies to children or children's children just because one person did well. Let the children create and they will have a chance to make large sums of money.
Although, in the end it will not be your viewpoint that turns out. I do agree with copyright, dont get me wrong, but on the very limited terms when our country was founded. I agree with the middle road: not one that supports infinite copyright, nor the complete absence.
Then I have a question for you.
I think we both can agree that the reason for copyright is to encourage creators to create. There will always be creators who want no money for their works, but we would lose out on some potentially powerful creations of content.
What would you propose to do to "give thanks" to the creators?
And Ill assume that buying shit from Wal-Mart doesn't guarantee fitness?
I'll set you on a little secret: when you buy something, you expect a certain quality.
You cant sell a connection, and then leave it down 100% of the time, while cowing "we promised connection, not service". No, we dont demand t1-based service contracts, but we do demand what we're told we thought we bought.
---The guy tries to work a pc by tapping the little icons on the screen with his finger, I swear to god. Let me give you a little true story about him and, as I later found out, a bunch from his twenty something generation around here (rural south).
I do computer consulting around these areas (linux fileservers for the companies with DRBD if requested), and I've seen such activity from people who were about ready to get their doctorate. I used to be computer-elitist but I grew out of that phase. Everybody has their own forte which can be brought out by proper experience and training.
Even though, I am not a professor, I called out an anthropology prof because he thought the same way I think you do: that there are people who can never learn, even when poked and prodded. I do not accept that, thought many do.
I snipped the story about your ex-brother-in-law, but I think that would have been an extraordinary opportunity for the court to issue probation to get his GED. Since we're at it, we could even offer free college (even though many would not take it). However, I believe this offer must be made to show we care about those who have little and are left to the legal system to take care of. At least, this would provide a route to those who recognize the merits of higher education and absolve monetary reasons for them.
---I was lucky-most of my teenage years I was homeschooled by a full time mother who loved Asimov and Heinlein and had a large library full of great horror and sci-fi to stimulate my mind when I wasn't doing the three R's. But more and more I am seeing folks like my ex brother in law who was just passed without caring if he could read by the school system, and whose parents simply sat them down in front of the idiot box(perfect name for it) until time for bed. In the old days they could have at least worked factory or construction or one of the many other blue collar jobs. But now those days are going and we are having an ever growing underclass that simply will not be able to compete in an educational setting, period.
That you were lucky. I graduated in 2000 and were subject to the public education system. So to say, it put me back about 3 years as I was not even remotely prepared for the university. After 2 years, I tried to go, and failed miserably. Not to promote myself, but I thought I was better than those that had to be taught concepts, rather people like me who taught themselves. I failed by the simple rote homework that many professors require, as I am used to learning something for a term (2-5 months) and then do something tremendous with it.
As my experience showed, I do best with classes that focus on learning the whole time, with a major project/paper near the end. Quizzes scattered about are nice to show comprehension.
---And while I agree that government spending could help like in the depression, the whole "cut the checks for the bankers" bit isn't going to help anyone but the rich who'll be taking their money offshore as the dollar tanks. What we need is a WPA style program to fix our failing bridges and crumbling infrastructure and to wire the country with the national high speed networks we will need to compete. And I apologize for the length, and I am sure that you believe what you say. But after spending nearly a year trying to educate some of these guys I can tell you this-if they have reached 20 without any real kind of intellectual stimulation you can pretty much give it up. Their minds have been dulled to the point that with years of work you MIGHT get him to 6th grade, but he and his buddies will never be college material. Sadly in most of these little rural towns all the money is spent on the sports teams while the education is pisspoor at best. Which is why places like India and China are going to be kicking our ass in the number of PHDs if they aren't already. But this is my 02c on the subject, and I sincerely hope that we get some leadership after the shrub that will actually DO something besides pander to his rich buddies.
I personally do not think any racial demographic has any bearing when it comes to education and learning material for supposed college credit.
To say it does implies that niggers, spics or honkeys aren't as good as the other races in certain subjects. I find that view (even aptly called affirmative action) as reprehensible. Your ethnic identity does NOT indicate your intelligence level.
As for my color, I am a person who can think. That's all that matters.
---Even better question: what are they going to do with all the factory workers that simply CAN'T get an education? My ex brother in law has an IQ of maybe 105, and I know a LOT of guys like him. In my parents generation those with a strong back could afford to feed a family and buy a little home. Now the factories are nothing but decaying hulks, and what little work is left is being snapped up by illegal aliens that will work for a pittance while living ten to a rathole so they can take their money back home where they can live well.
After reading John Taylor Gatto's book, Undreground History of American Education. It's free to read on his website (he published 1 chapter per month free). Back in the 1800's, coal miners complained they had to work too hard and long that they couldnt inform themselves of happenings in government, along with enjoying of the Classics. That is a marked departure from today where they seek to watch the latest yuck on tv: complete and utter apathy.
I would never tell, myself included, that someone is not cut out on getting an education. Yes, some things are difficult, but all things are understandable. They may take time, but really, what are we going to do in the meanwhile?
---The simple fact is we have a black hole in this country, and it is only getting wider. Our money is being bleed to other countries while we make nothing but imaginary property which can be easily copied. I personally believe we'll end up in a ten year+ depression while will sadly in all likelihood be followed by a xenophobic fascist police state, circa Germany in the 30's. And the governments current folly of bailing out the investment bankers by printing more money is simply going to make the problem worse. And most sadly I don't see any way out of it, as it would require REAL long term planning and possibly even WPA style public works to rebuild our aging infrastructure and all of the corporations and public officials seem to be of the "damn everything but the quarterly report" types.
Do you know what saved our butts in the last Great Depression? Excessive government spending and coming up to a World War. We dont have the manufacturing base we once had, nor are we solvent as a country. Though a theory states that extreme interdependence on trade reduces warlike aggression, it does not eliminate it. I wonder what would happen if the USA found itself in a corner.
---The economics textbooks expound an UNPROVEN theory that is actually being misapplied.
Too true. I'm being inundated with conjectures from economic theory and pretty graphs that obviously account for diddly. After all this conjecture the basic question lies: How does one pay for goods when one does not have a job?
Or perhaps better yet, where are the foreign businesses outsourcing TO the USA? If their statements are true, we should see an influx roughly equal to what we ship out. We dont.
---You want division of labor, yes, but the economics books are applying a mathematical model to a real-world thing. Math is a wonderful tool, but it doesn't make for rules of how the world works (opposite thinking...) nor does those numbers force things to be something other than they're not.
I've read the theories. They have so many holes and assumptions and restrictions how they work, so I cant even figure WHY they can even use them in the cases they do. Comparative advantage is exactly that: assumes that production is stationary. We see exactly the opposite of this, by our manufacturing leap-frogging around the globe for the absolute cheapest prices. Something tells me that we seek the lowest prices (race to the bottom), but do not account for people to buy that very stuff. We saw this same behavior once before: The Great Depression. I guess that's the bad side effects of a surplus economy (or whatever they call it now).
---It looks good on paper to outsource to another country- for a couple of years, if that. In many cases, the outsource partner looks good on paper- but the reality of all the work you end up doing re-working their work (And, I know this from professional experience...) and all the lost reputation of your company because your product has vastly more defects when delivered (again...) ends up more often than not washing out any gains you might have gotten from the process. Add on to this that you're moving that money from your own country to another that only gives a damn about their own country (which is highly understandable, really...) and doesn't reinvest resources here- meaning that the money sunk in offshore outsourcing just went bye-bye... The math doesn't add up to what is going on right now. When the math doesn't add up; when the theories don't match up to what you're seeing- it's time to come up with new math and theories.
Yeah, the key word is "right now". Look at Japan. We thought nothing of them around the 50's and 60's, as they created cheap knock-offs of our superior goods. Now, we've slacked off and they create the goods we drool over.
This is happening in India, China, and everywhere else our influence exerts itself. While they may be inferior to us now, they will not be later one. After all, those two countries can literally brute force problems in ways we cannot imagine (something has to be said for 1.3B people each).
---The people keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting the results the theories tell them should be happening and all we're doing is spiraling back down into a Great Depression.
That would be my guess, considering how our money is constantly being devalued. Another of my worries was brought to my attention by a statistician: China is one of the biggest US Treasury Bond holders. What would happen if they were to play "hot potato" with them, and dump them on the international market? From all of her calculations, she is now investing IN China.
---(Totally off-topic, but is anybody else not totally thrilled with this redesign?)
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I do know that the buttons were changed when I responded to an admin. He, for some reason, didnt like my signature
Why exactly is that assumption false? We are creating a country of ownership of ideas and not of production. That in of itself is a loss of power if we ever have a military action against those countries of of an ally of them.
This is the time you're supposed to prove me wrong... not show me maps of "not accounting for inflation" pretty graphs. Didn't you even read the comments below the graph, or did you just go "goo goo gaga pretty"? Erik Koht poignantly said that if we were to apply EU standards of living to the USA, 40% are in poverty level.. But even that tells not the whole story.
What I would venture is happening in our country is a ever-widening gulf between those who get paid to do and those who get paid to think. Our idea is we can just outsource it and sweep it under the rig, so to say. We have jobs that routinely get paid 100k+, and then we have 35k jobs. Those are the 2 working parent family households.. Manufacturing traditionally held that role of between intellectual and manual labor that a family could progress to higher socioeconomic ladders if they so chose.
I also have been told stories by the older generation that college could be paid off each year by working 40 hr/wk on summers. No more. Instead, we have corporations that demand we all have college, even traditionally they did not require it. Now, college has turned into a sorts of a new high school in which we pay to learn what once they would train on the job.
Unless we rebuild our nation, starting with our currency, then to manufacturing, and on, I can see us economically dying to countries like China and India that have almost 2 billion between them. Even during the Cold War, the USSR only had 200m civilians. That's a drop in the bucket compared to what China and India can do.. I wonder how high the Chinese could push oil? 200$ a barrel? 300$ a barrel? Or even our worst nightmare of switching OPEC to the Euro?
I didnt know it was THAT hard to apply for citizenship for each of those towns in Illinois.
On a real note: do you expect the working class to go to the countries jobs are now plentiful? And what makes you think that those countries will accept them?
---Maybe you're not seeing the long term gains of outsourcing.
I understand all right. It raises the whole world out of poverty by spreading the money where labor is cheap until they're equal with everybody else. That that means for me, my generation, and my children is that it effectively lowers our wages. I dont like that, and I think its fairly easy to see why.
Selling out our ability to create is just a bad idea altogether. It weakens our military and our ability to protect us.
---Maybe you failed to consider all the new factories that the outsourcing companies will have to build to handle the increased load? And what about all the people who will get new, higher paying jobs in those factories? And what about the the standard of living increase those people and their families get because of this? Oh wait, all those people will live in a different country. Racist much?
Smart much? Cause you aren't showing it. It's called nationalism, and yes. I have it. Since our world has no real idea of free travel and migrating citizenship (what Adam Smith believed), we are bound to our country. Because of that, I will attempt to make this country good to live in, and that means having jobs and money abound.
---In that case, maybe you're forgetting the poor people in our country that will be able to afford new computers now? And what about all the money that will be saved by people/companies who buy Dells?
If the poor people worked HERE instead of over there out of our territories, they could afford to buy them now. And pray tell, dont we see what the quality is when we seek the bottom? Or do you think lead is safe for children?
---If nothing else, look at it this way: Now that Dell has fewer employees doing manual labor, they'll be able to hire more people to design new, better machines.
In actuality, they will spend more on advertising, along with paying more to their top execs. The stock prices might go up some.
Ok then. Take for example our current manufacturing situation... We are hemorrhaging jobs from all markets for the manufacturing of goods. Instead, those jobs first went to Mexico. They ended up being too expensive, and the deals with China were brokered.
Along with China, India was also brought forth as a manufacturing country. Now, it appears they are too expensive, and our companies are off for cheaper places. Now, it is not arguable that China and India benefit from our presence. They do, however, is it advantageous that we put ourselves at a distance in terms to create?
I know where the USA wants to go towards: the brain of the world. Intellectual Property Capitol. Except they do this by selling off what got us here: our very industry to create. How would we do a Manhattan Project without every country knowing now? Buy this kit from this country, that kit from that country...
Thats exactly it: nobody with power cares for the long term maluses by strongly pushing outsourcing.
As long as the quarter looks good, its golden. Another question would be this: Why do the uber rich trading firms want to only see short term gains, and not longer term ones?
What financial disadvantage would there be if companies developed new things and technology, and continued further research going ahead up to 30-100 years? Ma Bell did that and we ended up with the transistor, lasers, Unix, C...