---You know, in an argument, "I'm right, shut up" is not a valid postulate. In fact, in arguments, the more standoffish, brash, and assertive the person is in pushing their point with little or no evidence to back it up, the more often they are found to be completely in the wrong.
Heh, you tell them;D
---Seriously people, threatening to strip someone of their credentials if they disagree with you is the last act of a desperate man. The truth is, the global warming zealots know they don't have a leg to stand on, and the only thing they will actually come out and claim evidence for is that the earth is warming (which it is, due at least in part to a ~7W/m^2 increase in solar flux density that correlates very well with recent increases in global surface temperature). They still cannot produce any proof that global warming is a man-made problem. For a while there, I actually started to believe the hype, but the more and more outlandish the eco-movement has become, the less and less credibility they have earned.
Back in High School (96-00), I had a biologist that discussed this during class.. One of the ideas that were being tossed about was that if the earth became too tot, somehow the water in all the deep parts of the ocean would rise to the surface (via a known mechanism), and supercool the atmosphere. The base idea here was that the earth itself is in homeostasis with many unknown and few known mechanisms. Its become hot and cold before, without our influence. What makes humans think they did it this time?
...Oh bother... If I had a Kernel Level rootkit, I can SHIM all your commands through it and filter what I want you to see. You can guarantee that I will hide my program ID, memory used, swap used, location on fixed disks, and any network data transmitted/received
---If that's ALL you hide, then you'll be found by all of these tools.
Wrong. If I control the CPU as kernel level, I can do anything I want. Next of all, if I use custom tools, good luck trying to find them. Well, the only way to find them would to be proactive on system security and map all files via MD5 on install and upgrade, so that you would have maps of all edited files. Any changes = caught. Of course, the computer would have to be brought down and a BootCD be started up. The OS is too untrustworthy after you hook it on a network (in Windows case especially).
---You ALSO have to mess with low-level I/O requests;
What does Kernel Level mean to you? Or rather, does Microsoft allow you to do extensive reprogramming? I know of extensive Linux kernel, GLibc, and usermode program backdooring. You hit one, and theres still all the others. Essentially, if you have no reference system to verify good data/files, you're screwed.
---if an application can say "I want block #17" you need to be able to mutate the returned data if it's a directory block or something like that. On Windows if you have detectable information in the registry, you also need to intercept all requests to the registry hives (either by file name or block number) and mutate the information in them to hide your data.
Assuming you'd actually store data in the registry if you're using a backdoor. That just strikes me as friggin stupid. I'd store my data across the whole system in stupid stuff like user settings, whitespace on text and html files, files near commonly executed programs, and other various random places. And the backdoor would be hidden in plain sight, but in no recognizable form. It should take no more than 50 KB to start a backdoor, and the rest loaded from a distributed amount of places that the backdoor would have access to... local machines and the internet.
---If a native app can analyze the disk volume directly it can identify malicious drivers and reveal them to a friendly Win32 application that can remove them after a reboot.
Oh bother... If I had a Kernel Level rootkit, I can SHIM all your commands through it and filter what I want you to see. You can guarantee that I will hide my program ID, memory used, swap used, location on fixed disks, and any network data transmitted/received. As far as you know, the system will be "ok". But it'll be OK, because you can analyze the volume directly!!
---This works for user mode and kernel mode rootkits, but if there's a BIOS rootkit you're pretty much screwed.
Sure. If you have to run a "checking program" on a corrupted system, what makes you think you'll get good results? I keep drilling this point, but all you do is give dumb comments. And bios rootkit? Good luck with that one. You all might wannna give LinuxBios some help if you can flash WORKING hacked firmwares to the multitudes of X86 boxes. Oh... you mean diddle with the ACPI tables. Welllll.. Bah.
---See my previous post, Norton AntiVirus 2007 operates in this way.
Wow! Lets rate programs on diagnosing a potentially lying PC!
This is just a stupid idea if anything. The purpose of a rootkit is to make a very hidden hole into a system. Doing this requires reprogramming and setting up the system in that nobody can diagnose itself. The key is to diagnose any sort of rootkit, one must run from known good binaries.
Now, we dont have the source to Windows, but we have binaries. Well, lets MD5 the binaries and then compare to a known good (just installed, no network interfaces) installation. The differences are possible holes.
No program can be trusted when the system it sits upon cannot be trusted. When system trust is gone, one must redeploy the system to regain trust.
---People have freedoms, corporations do not, regardless of how many people try to convince you that a corporation really is a "person."
Legally, Corporations are a "person". So, why cant corporations use the same freedom of speech the rest of us use? If not, shouldn't we quiet anybody who works for a corporation, assuming that their salary pays for their speech?
Ok, say I didn't agree with the body of law that corporations are a person. Fine, I can handle that. Then why are there laws affecting what you or I can say if somebody else pays us? I'm NOT talking about what happens after the fact (John Q is a Rapist- libel/slander, Product XYZ cures cancer - false advertising --- all lawsuits after the fact). I am NOT comfortable with laws that PREVENT any body's speech, no matter if the language is hate, advertising, political, or just plain stupid.
---That's a technical distinction for legal and financial purposes, not to be used in determining rights. So long as businesses are given the ability to restrict the speech of their employees, we have the right to restrict the speech of said businesses.
Where in the constitution does it say that corporate and political speech can be restricted and quieted?
I would rather lose a large city (and along with the destabilization) via a terrorist attack than LOSE MY FREEDOM. It'd not matter if it was my city, as long as others would keep their freedom.
That, and basing an argument about a F-1CTIONAL show is stupid. Stupid.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. -----
Where in this statement does it say that political or corporate statements should be regulated by any law? Speech is done by people, even if paid by someone else. Why is there a standard of "who can say what" when it concerns corporate speech and political speech?
Now, repercussions can result from said speech, and that is a separate issue (libel, slander, threatening...).
Thats what I got too. Bias is not wrong by any means, but understanding that bias and choosing why that bias applies to you us a beginning to understand how to factor it out of your judgments.
Now on to election stuff... Our country has a well defined system of voting presidents and thats via the electoral votes. Those votes are made by the electoral members we choose to send, and these numbers are based upon congress and senate votes (congress is population based, and senate is 2 per state). Because of thos, we can technically have one president declared the winner by mass majority, but our system prevents democracy by limiting damage by the majority.
And when it comes down to the election itself, Im a Libertarian and want the government to stop nannying me around and to get their hands out of my wallet. That aside, voting with these terminals are horrendously insecure. This insecurity affects all candidates, as election skew undermines the will of the people. So what if the "Republicans are in bed with Diebold" or whatnot. Im sure Democrats are also.
Id rather have the most liberal democrat voted as president (Im thinking Chavez'ian socialist) than have a illegally voted in Libertarian.
They know what s hardcoded and not, and broke most "hardcoding". Thing is, there's still things that COULD be done, that arent possible with the current engine.
And lastly, if you dont have PrC installed onto neverwinter nights, well, you'll most liokely sink 1000+ hours with it;-D 100+ classes, real epic magic, true shapeshifter, loads of spells, PSIONICS;-D
+++If you never received service you ought to have taken them to court rather than simply not paying. -Taking rogers to court would have cost many times more than the amount that they claim I owe them.
How much is a "lost job" worth to you? How much is damaged credit worth to you? Do you own your home? Are you going to get a new car soon? Do you have a subscription to DSL? All these use credit history, and will most likely lead for you to have little or no credit.
-I will not relent to such extortion tactics, I'd rather drop out, there is no sense trying to fight such powerful evil.
Thats because all of the big sports associations are actually government sustained monopolies. Too many fractured leagues wouldnt bring in the money or the crowds.
And, I see no reason you couldnt copyright your credit history as a whole. Who knows, have you asked a lawyer?
---An analogy in the Digital World that many people have been drawing lately is Open Wi-Fi. (Which I agree with, BTW.) This says that Wi-Fi piggy-backing should be legal because if you don't want people using it, you can secure it, put up a digital "No Tresspassing" sign, etc.
WiFi concerning 2.4 GHz should be unmoderated, along with laws concerning "no listening". It should be legal for me, under part 15, to continually spit out interference because it is UNLICENSED. If you want a quiet channel, go buy your own. If you have an encrypted channel, I should have the right to decrypt the data, and transmit "encrypted" so that you understand.
When it comes to encryption, I dont use it on WEP or WPA. It's open, spitting out 5 watts. Why over the limit? Im licensed with amateur radio. I have part 97 on my side.
---Is there an analogy here? If your computer isn't secured, according to the standards of a "reasonable" person? I think it depends on who these "reasonable" people are. Does the average person know how to secure their computer at a bare minimum? Probably not. But are average people reasonable?
Reasonable: If you squirt RF over unlicensed band, you had better be sure what you're communicating with. If you want WPA with VPN, thats fine. But prepare for it to be cracked into. If you want security, use wires.
---Should reasonable people have their computers checked for malware? Yes they should.
Reasonable people woudnt be using browsers that could become infected, nor should the computers run executable code unless directly instructed by the person. Then again, using a secure OS is a part of that, but Windows is reasonable because many people use it.
---My biggest problem with DRM is the DMCA. By giving shitty encryption legal protection fair-use is effectively eliminated.
"Shitty encryption".. What's that? By the by, what exactly is encryption? Yes, we can claim that it's a way to communicate a hidden message from one to another, but there's many ways of obfuscation and mangling data in that it appears encrypted. For example, I am a Ham Operator, and am forbid from transmitting encrypted signals with my part 97 license. However, is it not "encryption" if somebody uses a digital mode and Im using voice? I cant understand it, even if they do use their call sign. I have no set-up equipment to properly identify their transmissions. Or better yet, say I built a OFDM transceiver using my own idea on how to make it, assuming that I make sure harmonics are within respected guidelines. Would testing said system count as "encryption" or testing? Would decoding break the "DMCA" statute?
---If the DMCA, at least the protections for encryption, then I would have no problem with DRM. DRM lowers the value of a piece of media because you cannot apply fair-use, so I'd buy less heavily restricted DRMed media, but I a company should have the right to distribute a piece of their media in any way that they want. It's up to the consumers to determine if they like the way they distribute it.
Instead, DRM in many cases lowers "worth" to 0$ in that even if I have a copy, it is un-redistributable and only plays under specific operating configurations.
---insert horrible metaphor.
Real World Metaphor does NOT equal a digital metaphor.
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---Security is a process, not a state.
;-)
WRONG!! Ever hear of OFF?
yeah, Ill stop being an ass
Do not look at the plane with remaining good eye.
I would prefer "War on Politicians".
They are the root cause for decay in this country.
---You know, in an argument, "I'm right, shut up" is not a valid postulate. In fact, in arguments, the more standoffish, brash, and assertive the person is in pushing their point with little or no evidence to back it up, the more often they are found to be completely in the wrong.
;D
Heh, you tell them
---Seriously people, threatening to strip someone of their credentials if they disagree with you is the last act of a desperate man. The truth is, the global warming zealots know they don't have a leg to stand on, and the only thing they will actually come out and claim evidence for is that the earth is warming (which it is, due at least in part to a ~7W/m^2 increase in solar flux density that correlates very well with recent increases in global surface temperature). They still cannot produce any proof that global warming is a man-made problem. For a while there, I actually started to believe the hype, but the more and more outlandish the eco-movement has become, the less and less credibility they have earned.
Back in High School (96-00), I had a biologist that discussed this during class.. One of the ideas that were being tossed about was that if the earth became too tot, somehow the water in all the deep parts of the ocean would rise to the surface (via a known mechanism), and supercool the atmosphere. The base idea here was that the earth itself is in homeostasis with many unknown and few known mechanisms. Its become hot and cold before, without our influence. What makes humans think they did it this time?
Remember: Children will take care of their parents in their late term... What comes around goes around.
...Oh bother... If I had a Kernel Level rootkit, I can SHIM all your commands through it and filter what I want you to see. You can guarantee that I will hide my program ID, memory used, swap used, location on fixed disks, and any network data transmitted/received
---If that's ALL you hide, then you'll be found by all of these tools.
Wrong. If I control the CPU as kernel level, I can do anything I want. Next of all, if I use custom tools, good luck trying to find them. Well, the only way to find them would to be proactive on system security and map all files via MD5 on install and upgrade, so that you would have maps of all edited files. Any changes = caught. Of course, the computer would have to be brought down and a BootCD be started up. The OS is too untrustworthy after you hook it on a network (in Windows case especially).
---You ALSO have to mess with low-level I/O requests;
What does Kernel Level mean to you? Or rather, does Microsoft allow you to do extensive reprogramming? I know of extensive Linux kernel, GLibc, and usermode program backdooring. You hit one, and theres still all the others. Essentially, if you have no reference system to verify good data/files, you're screwed.
---if an application can say "I want block #17" you need to be able to mutate the returned data if it's a directory block or something like that. On Windows if you have detectable information in the registry, you also need to intercept all requests to the registry hives (either by file name or block number) and mutate the information in them to hide your data.
Assuming you'd actually store data in the registry if you're using a backdoor. That just strikes me as friggin stupid. I'd store my data across the whole system in stupid stuff like user settings, whitespace on text and html files, files near commonly executed programs, and other various random places. And the backdoor would be hidden in plain sight, but in no recognizable form. It should take no more than 50 KB to start a backdoor, and the rest loaded from a distributed amount of places that the backdoor would have access to... local machines and the internet.
---If a native app can analyze the disk volume directly it can identify malicious drivers and reveal them to a friendly Win32 application that can remove them after a reboot.
Oh bother... If I had a Kernel Level rootkit, I can SHIM all your commands through it and filter what I want you to see. You can guarantee that I will hide my program ID, memory used, swap used, location on fixed disks, and any network data transmitted/received. As far as you know, the system will be "ok". But it'll be OK, because you can analyze the volume directly!!
---This works for user mode and kernel mode rootkits, but if there's a BIOS rootkit you're pretty much screwed.
Sure. If you have to run a "checking program" on a corrupted system, what makes you think you'll get good results? I keep drilling this point, but all you do is give dumb comments. And bios rootkit? Good luck with that one. You all might wannna give LinuxBios some help if you can flash WORKING hacked firmwares to the multitudes of X86 boxes. Oh... you mean diddle with the ACPI tables. Welllll.. Bah.
---See my previous post, Norton AntiVirus 2007 operates in this way.
I ignore ads.
Wow! Lets rate programs on diagnosing a potentially lying PC!
This is just a stupid idea if anything. The purpose of a rootkit is to make a very hidden hole into a system. Doing this requires reprogramming and setting up the system in that nobody can diagnose itself. The key is to diagnose any sort of rootkit, one must run from known good binaries.
Now, we dont have the source to Windows, but we have binaries. Well, lets MD5 the binaries and then compare to a known good (just installed, no network interfaces) installation. The differences are possible holes.
No program can be trusted when the system it sits upon cannot be trusted. When system trust is gone, one must redeploy the system to regain trust.
---People have freedoms, corporations do not, regardless of how many people try to convince you that a corporation really is a "person."
Legally, Corporations are a "person". So, why cant corporations use the same freedom of speech the rest of us use? If not, shouldn't we quiet anybody who works for a corporation, assuming that their salary pays for their speech?
Ok, say I didn't agree with the body of law that corporations are a person. Fine, I can handle that. Then why are there laws affecting what you or I can say if somebody else pays us? I'm NOT talking about what happens after the fact (John Q is a Rapist- libel/slander, Product XYZ cures cancer - false advertising --- all lawsuits after the fact). I am NOT comfortable with laws that PREVENT any body's speech, no matter if the language is hate, advertising, political, or just plain stupid.
---That's a technical distinction for legal and financial purposes, not to be used in determining rights. So long as businesses are given the ability to restrict the speech of their employees, we have the right to restrict the speech of said businesses.
Where in the constitution does it say that corporate and political speech can be restricted and quieted?
Most likely, they only used "Book Reviews" and made it look like a technical book to your filters.
;-D
It should have been labeled (Book Reviews) (Politics) (Flamewar waiting to happen)... well, perhaps not that last one.
Well, I have to say it.. My politician can beat up your politician
Its iPwn3d.
I would rather lose a large city (and along with the destabilization) via a terrorist attack than LOSE MY FREEDOM. It'd not matter if it was my city, as long as others would keep their freedom.
That, and basing an argument about a F-1CTIONAL show is stupid. Stupid.
By saying:
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Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
-----
Where in this statement does it say that political or corporate statements should be regulated by any law? Speech is done by people, even if paid by someone else. Why is there a standard of "who can say what" when it concerns corporate speech and political speech?
Now, repercussions can result from said speech, and that is a separate issue (libel, slander, threatening...).
Thats what I got too.
Bias is not wrong by any means, but understanding that bias and choosing why that bias applies to you us a beginning to understand how to factor it out of your judgments.
Now on to election stuff... Our country has a well defined system of voting presidents and thats via the electoral votes. Those votes are made by the electoral members we choose to send, and these numbers are based upon congress and senate votes (congress is population based, and senate is 2 per state). Because of thos, we can technically have one president declared the winner by mass majority, but our system prevents democracy by limiting damage by the majority.
And when it comes down to the election itself, Im a Libertarian and want the government to stop nannying me around and to get their hands out of my wallet. That aside, voting with these terminals are horrendously insecure. This insecurity affects all candidates, as election skew undermines the will of the people. So what if the "Republicans are in bed with Diebold" or whatnot. Im sure Democrats are also.
Id rather have the most liberal democrat voted as president (Im thinking Chavez'ian socialist) than have a illegally voted in Libertarian.
Total Annihilation? Bleh. Go play Total Annihilation Spring ;-D
Actually, look at nwnprc.netgamers.co.uk .
;-D 100+ classes, real epic magic, true shapeshifter, loads of spells, PSIONICS ;-D
They know what s hardcoded and not, and broke most "hardcoding". Thing is, there's still things that COULD be done, that arent possible with the current engine.
And lastly, if you dont have PrC installed onto neverwinter nights, well, you'll most liokely sink 1000+ hours with it
And for the longest time, I owned a Laser machine.
Yes, the AppleII clones. It ended up getting fried in a power mains accident.
+++If you never received service you ought to have taken them to court rather than simply not paying.
-Taking rogers to court would have cost many times more than the amount that they claim I owe them.
How much is a "lost job" worth to you? How much is damaged credit worth to you? Do you own your home? Are you going to get a new car soon? Do you have a subscription to DSL? All these use credit history, and will most likely lead for you to have little or no credit.
-I will not relent to such extortion tactics, I'd rather drop out, there is no sense trying to fight such powerful evil.
Why not? They do.
Thats because all of the big sports associations are actually government sustained monopolies. Too many fractured leagues wouldnt bring in the money or the crowds.
And, I see no reason you couldnt copyright your credit history as a whole. Who knows, have you asked a lawyer?
And in that country, one cannot say ANYTHING about WW2 or Nazis.
Wow, if sexual laws suck in one country, freedom of speech sucks in the other.
I like Sealand... I might try for citizenship considering how out-to-lunch Euros and USians are.
Heh, when I was 16, I bought my own computer (333MHz yada yada). I caught my dad using mine for porn.
When I caught him, I told him to save it to (my documents)/homework/images/ .
Guess what... My mom found out and threw a FUCKING fit.
---An analogy in the Digital World that many people have been drawing lately is Open Wi-Fi. (Which I agree with, BTW.) This says that Wi-Fi piggy-backing should be legal because if you don't want people using it, you can secure it, put up a digital "No Tresspassing" sign, etc.
WiFi concerning 2.4 GHz should be unmoderated, along with laws concerning "no listening". It should be legal for me, under part 15, to continually spit out interference because it is UNLICENSED. If you want a quiet channel, go buy your own. If you have an encrypted channel, I should have the right to decrypt the data, and transmit "encrypted" so that you understand.
When it comes to encryption, I dont use it on WEP or WPA. It's open, spitting out 5 watts. Why over the limit? Im licensed with amateur radio. I have part 97 on my side.
---Is there an analogy here? If your computer isn't secured, according to the standards of a "reasonable" person? I think it depends on who these "reasonable" people are. Does the average person know how to secure their computer at a bare minimum? Probably not. But are average people reasonable?
Reasonable: If you squirt RF over unlicensed band, you had better be sure what you're communicating with. If you want WPA with VPN, thats fine. But prepare for it to be cracked into. If you want security, use wires.
---Should reasonable people have their computers checked for malware? Yes they should.
Reasonable people woudnt be using browsers that could become infected, nor should the computers run executable code unless directly instructed by the person. Then again, using a secure OS is a part of that, but Windows is reasonable because many people use it.
The floodgates are open.
m ent_16_9_1280x720p_WM9_HD-DVD
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3213467/The_Fifth_Ele
---My biggest problem with DRM is the DMCA. By giving shitty encryption legal protection fair-use is effectively eliminated.
"Shitty encryption".. What's that? By the by, what exactly is encryption? Yes, we can claim that it's a way to communicate a hidden message from one to another, but there's many ways of obfuscation and mangling data in that it appears encrypted. For example, I am a Ham Operator, and am forbid from transmitting encrypted signals with my part 97 license. However, is it not "encryption" if somebody uses a digital mode and Im using voice? I cant understand it, even if they do use their call sign. I have no set-up equipment to properly identify their transmissions. Or better yet, say I built a OFDM transceiver using my own idea on how to make it, assuming that I make sure harmonics are within respected guidelines. Would testing said system count as "encryption" or testing? Would decoding break the "DMCA" statute?
---If the DMCA, at least the protections for encryption, then I would have no problem with DRM. DRM lowers the value of a piece of media because you cannot apply fair-use, so I'd buy less heavily restricted DRMed media, but I a company should have the right to distribute a piece of their media in any way that they want. It's up to the consumers to determine if they like the way they distribute it.
Instead, DRM in many cases lowers "worth" to 0$ in that even if I have a copy, it is un-redistributable and only plays under specific operating configurations.
---insert horrible metaphor.
Real World Metaphor does NOT equal a digital metaphor.
If you have a few hours, check out The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect at k5 http://www.kuro5hin.org/prime-intellect/ .
Scary scary story by baldrson.