Of course I know what it SAYS, but no game desginer that MATTERS will give a shit.
Im sure you'll have a few small-fry operations make some crappy 3d game (like yet another doom clone) that'll listen. But I know, as well as you, that until the big guys listen to that, this'll go nowhere.
Fuck, according to the EULA, its against the rules to even know what HP/MP/XP levels you have on Evercrack... Everquest. You have to use a linux box as a shim and gui to see the datastream and decode it from there. And for Sony, their group of addiction psychologists say that's better for revenue.
Until Open Sourcers make good engines and artist-coders start making the games, the "bill of rights" concept is a joke. The current set of game designers can do whater-the-fuck they want. As long as the weenies keep buying them, they'll keep abusing us.
Actually, in this case a form of "trusted computing" would help immensely.
First(directed at hollywood), drop the idea that media which is PLAYED by the customer can be restricted. Anything I can see or hear can be recorded.
Second, look at trusted computing as a form of way to secure a computer to KNOW FOR SURE there's no easy way for unauthorized programs to enter. Data and executable parts of memory can be seperated, a hardware encryption chip can be integrated, and many small ram banks on devices could be made of ecc ram (so no easy corruption, which can break programs).
Even systems like AIX and SunOS always had a "trusted base" mode in which ONLY programs trusted had access to anything that could grant real harm. You could also run a trusted backup and KNOW there's no trojans or malware scripts. Hell, not even most Linux system installs provide static linked needed tools (you know, like ls, more, ld, grep, nano, or anything).
If anything, there needs to be a good setup of Debian with 2.6's NSA patch with a sane RBAC control lists. Auditing should be on everything by default, and turned off by necessity.
Still, at least on *Nix, what I fear the most are rogue pieces of obfusicated shellcode. If you provide any way of encrypting files, a shellcode can use that and encrypt your ~ and then proceed to demand X$ in some bank account for decryption key. Comes down to whats more important: the computer, or the information?
And the last point, PS/2 are the mouse and keyboard ports on the back of your computer. As in "IBM PS/2" (Personal System/2)
Of course. And if you want, no NEED a device to watch monitors, look up Van Eck radiation.
After a schematic for the receiver, you can hook up a standard monitor and watch peoples' doings up to a mile away. From what Ive made, it took a o-scope to do some tuning between different monitors..
---All of these are kept in a safe by your security officer when not in use. Ours are not connected to the network and the NICs are BIOS disabled with a BIOS password implemented. The OS' (XP) have all relevant security and auditing procedures enabled.
If you're like me, closed bioses like Phoenix and such scare me. What exactly was THAT password again???
---My suggestion would be to disable floppy as well as USB, and only allow transmission of information to and from this system via CD.
And I'd have the CD drive read lines under a hardware lock (like the old machines used) and have it shut off unless required.
---USB is right out...don't let anyone try to convince you otherwise...it's an unacceptable security risk.
Agreed. Have only PS/2 mouse and keyboard available. Also make sure that Firewire, serial, paralell, audio jacks on CD-ROM and sound card, and all peripherial devices are GONE, removed or jacks destroyed by one incapicating method or another. Super-glue in serial ports make an awful mess to "recover".
I, a long time ago, made an attack in which I recorded audio on a cd player through the audio jack. I was able to reconstruct the data from the "static sound". I'd call that an attack as much as hooking up a data casette to a Commie 64.
---Also, only allow data to be transferred to and from a protected 'sandbox' area on the system,
I would call that "Printouts".
---and make certain that autorun of CD-ROMs is disabled in the registry.
You ASSume Windows. Nobody running a secure environment would use windows, unless it's just confidential.
---One more thing: keep the system in a locked room, and personally supervise, if not actually conduct, all data transfers.
Double-lock the room, use mag-locks to determine when door is opened. Record open-close actions.
Have 2 video cams that record on any motion to a remote system (just as secure, as it could record confidential data). Have each room record the others' cameras while NEVER under any circumstances allow anybody from one get into the other room.
Also have a 10 minute delay safe for open events to even get to the hard drive. Set up a hypergolic charge in the safe in case of tampering. Also have safe monitor open-close events.
I also have a few ideas on unbeatable object-detection schemes, but I believe they're actually used in real Secure environments. I will not mention them.
Still, the good ol standard of having 2 "Armed to the teeth" guards at the door always suffice as a first precaution. If you can afford this, you can have double-locking doors that 2 seperate entities must open.
Example: To get in, you flash badge to 2 officers. You enter 1'st set of doors. You then submit to scans/checks of whatever to open 2'nd doors. To get out, you walk out the 2'nd doors, and ONLY 2 guys can open 1'st doors from outside. Very secure.
---Sure, it sounds paranoid...bit is it paranoid enough?
And this case is exactly why there should be NO (and I really mean NO!!!) recursive flags on any linux program. Pipe an output through find or something... Just as long as you DO IT MANUALLY.
If anything, I want to see a state secede from our union in my lifetime.
I abhor this governmnet. I do not hate it, I truly despise this whole government and what it stands for.
I, on the other hand, love the freedoms that were ORIGINALLY enumerated in the Constitution and the restriction on the very evil entity, governmnet. I love the people of this country.
I would love if we could band together and kick the bastards out of every political office and us create a new system. If they resist, we jail em.. but I still remember when the president used the army against our own people... Perhaps we ought to use the same force.. of death.
Perhaps THAT system could be kept up longer than 200 years, considering we now know of what mistakes to "prevent" in a Constitutional Republic (with strong democratic ties).
Aye aye aye... I didnt understand the scope of the problem. I was worried about being tied to some Windows app through a shim (thats all VeeBee programmers can do), but Access???
Ill admit, the "preety" stuff in Access is nice to have for space-filling charts and other looks-good worthless crap, but shouldnt it be easy to get away from that?
---Whether you believe it or not, you are being poisoned. It may or may not be intentional, and I don't care if it is or isn't. But the fact of the matter is that the food production chain in most western nations is destroying the health of the consumers. There are a high number of chemicals that have found their way into the food supply due to their inexpensive provision of preservative, aesthetic and texture properties. Many of these chemicals may be the underlying cause of various chronic illnesses that are becoming epidemics in the western world. But we will never know because to compound the problem we are also being overmedicated.
Lemee guess... You're one of those enviro-wackos from say, Seattle, Oregon?
"Underlying chemicals", eh? DO you cook your meat under any sort of heating appratus? Do you have any idea what that meat turns into? There's tons of carcinogenic chemicals in that cooked meat. Also, do you wash your fruit? You just washed off most all the water solulable vitamins they have.
---One of the worst ingredients that has found it's way into too much of the food supply is white processed sugar. One can of soft drink can contain up to 14 tablespoons of sugar in it. Sugar also has some light preservative qualities and tends to make everything taste better. In small quantities, sugar is mildly harmful.
Mildly harmful? WTF? Hows about quantity, not "OMG ITS CANE SUGAR!!!111". Hell, even diet coke has been shown that it messes with the body sugar regulation.
---But at the rate that we ingest sugar, it is downright dangerous. Don't believe me? Next time you are at the grocery, pick up most prepared foods and look at the ingredients. You'll find that sugar or high fructose corn syrup is in nearly everything.
Well, what would you suggest? Have you ever baked anything? Many things have sugar or require sugar.
---It's a bit frightening especially since I had a personal health issue that no doctor could solve until I cut food with sugar out of my diet. Compounded with the medications that doctors tried to give me to cure my sinus infections, I continued to get more and more ill rather than get better. But once I stopped taking the antibiotics and the prevacid and dumped white sugar, white rice, white flour, corn syrup and honey ouf of my diet, my various illnesses went away. It's been about three years now and my health is better than ever.
Ok. You just sound like a hypochondriac. You're prolly just some slob who was feeding his face 1 too many whoppers per day and came to the conclusion that you might be killing yourself. But now its the big nasty bugaboo "SUGAR!!!"not how you ate, you fatass tub of lard. And, by the way, docs cant help you if you dont follow the doctor reccomended course of action. And that means staying away from those fucking twinkies.
Have you asked them about recompiling with consideration for full support to WINE? It's not like demanding for Linux, instead just asking that it be Windows Emulator compatible.
Unless it's hellbent on MS-SQL, postgres would work fine (well, thats the biggest dependancy I can forsee).
Have any CS guys doing work for a company ACTUALLY have every license fly by their legal department? I wonder what the cost of Windows(pick your flavor) license has(compliance too), aside the cost of the actual right to use it per 1 machine?
And, now what's the cost of any GPL or GPL-like license has on a company?
--So when GPL3 is completed, GPL2 things do not automatically update to GPL3 terms do they?
They can, if and ONLY if, every person who touched even 1 bit of the code agrees.
If anybody disagrees with a license change (in a GPL type software), the only way to ignore them is by excising all of their code. Nobody wants to do that.
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--- ...because an overwhelming percentage of cars are purchased with cash (their banking system sucks, another chink in the armor).
;P
;P I know it was unintentional.
That's a pretty damned bad racial slur. Chink in the armor as reffering to a Chinese person in a car? Wow. And I thought I was racist
J/K
Of course I know what it SAYS, but no game desginer that MATTERS will give a shit.
Im sure you'll have a few small-fry operations make some crappy 3d game (like yet another doom clone) that'll listen. But I know, as well as you, that until the big guys listen to that, this'll go nowhere.
Fuck, according to the EULA, its against the rules to even know what HP/MP/XP levels you have on Evercrack... Everquest. You have to use a linux box as a shim and gui to see the datastream and decode it from there. And for Sony, their group of addiction psychologists say that's better for revenue.
Yeah, bitch. Its called a EULA.
Until Open Sourcers make good engines and artist-coders start making the games, the "bill of rights" concept is a joke. The current set of game designers can do whater-the-fuck they want. As long as the weenies keep buying them, they'll keep abusing us.
Evil? Actually the legal definition is called 'Copyright Infringement'.
And it would be ALL search engines on the net that would be infringing, not just Google.
Actually, in this case a form of "trusted computing" would help immensely.
First(directed at hollywood), drop the idea that media which is PLAYED by the customer can be restricted. Anything I can see or hear can be recorded.
Second, look at trusted computing as a form of way to secure a computer to KNOW FOR SURE there's no easy way for unauthorized programs to enter. Data and executable parts of memory can be seperated, a hardware encryption chip can be integrated, and many small ram banks on devices could be made of ecc ram (so no easy corruption, which can break programs).
Even systems like AIX and SunOS always had a "trusted base" mode in which ONLY programs trusted had access to anything that could grant real harm. You could also run a trusted backup and KNOW there's no trojans or malware scripts. Hell, not even most Linux system installs provide static linked needed tools (you know, like ls, more, ld, grep, nano, or anything).
If anything, there needs to be a good setup of Debian with 2.6's NSA patch with a sane RBAC control lists. Auditing should be on everything by default, and turned off by necessity.
Still, at least on *Nix, what I fear the most are rogue pieces of obfusicated shellcode. If you provide any way of encrypting files, a shellcode can use that and encrypt your ~ and then proceed to demand X$ in some bank account for decryption key. Comes down to whats more important: the computer, or the information?
And the last point, PS/2 are the mouse and keyboard ports on the back of your computer. As in "IBM PS/2" (Personal System/2)
Why didnt you pay the 35$ to file a small-claims suit against them? Slap them with a 1000$ "fee"...
A kilobuck isnt enough to warrant a lawyer, and they'll prolly settle just for no bad press.
As a note, I'm on SBC DSL and can access the PDF regulation 25-2.
It seems to be public access. Should it be?
Isnt it illegal to even disclose that you're working on making a secure site for $high_classification data for the govt?
My idea was it was very illegal to even say that. Oh well, hopefully this idiot doesnt get properly certified because of this "stunt".
What the FUCK do you think the "-r" means in "rm -rf" ??????
---Not going to get into those details though.
God bless your soul (and body, and prison term in Guan..) if you do..
Of course. And if you want, no NEED a device to watch monitors, look up Van Eck radiation.
After a schematic for the receiver, you can hook up a standard monitor and watch peoples' doings up to a mile away. From what Ive made, it took a o-scope to do some tuning between different monitors..
---All of these are kept in a safe by your security officer when not in use. Ours are not connected to the network and the NICs are BIOS disabled with a BIOS password implemented. The OS' (XP) have all relevant security and auditing procedures enabled.
....
If you're like me, closed bioses like Phoenix and such scare me. What exactly was THAT password again???
*hint: phoenix, bios, 1995, setup, admin, superuser, 12345,
---My suggestion would be to disable floppy as well as USB, and only allow transmission of information to and from this system via CD.
And I'd have the CD drive read lines under a hardware lock (like the old machines used) and have it shut off unless required.
---USB is right out...don't let anyone try to convince you otherwise...it's an unacceptable security risk.
Agreed. Have only PS/2 mouse and keyboard available. Also make sure that Firewire, serial, paralell, audio jacks on CD-ROM and sound card, and all peripherial devices are GONE, removed or jacks destroyed by one incapicating method or another. Super-glue in serial ports make an awful mess to "recover".
I, a long time ago, made an attack in which I recorded audio on a cd player through the audio jack. I was able to reconstruct the data from the "static sound". I'd call that an attack as much as hooking up a data casette to a Commie 64.
---Also, only allow data to be transferred to and from a protected 'sandbox' area on the system,
I would call that "Printouts".
---and make certain that autorun of CD-ROMs is disabled in the registry.
You ASSume Windows. Nobody running a secure environment would use windows, unless it's just confidential.
---One more thing: keep the system in a locked room, and personally supervise, if not actually conduct, all data transfers.
Double-lock the room, use mag-locks to determine when door is opened. Record open-close actions.
Have 2 video cams that record on any motion to a remote system (just as secure, as it could record confidential data). Have each room record the others' cameras while NEVER under any circumstances allow anybody from one get into the other room.
Also have a 10 minute delay safe for open events to even get to the hard drive. Set up a hypergolic charge in the safe in case of tampering. Also have safe monitor open-close events.
I also have a few ideas on unbeatable object-detection schemes, but I believe they're actually used in real Secure environments. I will not mention them.
Still, the good ol standard of having 2 "Armed to the teeth" guards at the door always suffice as a first precaution. If you can afford this, you can have double-locking doors that 2 seperate entities must open.
Example: To get in, you flash badge to 2 officers. You enter 1'st set of doors. You then submit to scans/checks of whatever to open 2'nd doors. To get out, you walk out the 2'nd doors, and ONLY 2 guys can open 1'st doors from outside. Very secure.
---Sure, it sounds paranoid...bit is it paranoid enough?
Nope.
And this case is exactly why there should be NO (and I really mean NO!!!) recursive flags on any linux program. Pipe an output through find or something... Just as long as you DO IT MANUALLY.
If anything, I want to see a state secede from our union in my lifetime.
I abhor this governmnet. I do not hate it, I truly despise this whole government and what it stands for.
I, on the other hand, love the freedoms that were ORIGINALLY enumerated in the Constitution and the restriction on the very evil entity, governmnet. I love the people of this country.
I would love if we could band together and kick the bastards out of every political office and us create a new system. If they resist, we jail em.. but I still remember when the president used the army against our own people... Perhaps we ought to use the same force.. of death.
Perhaps THAT system could be kept up longer than 200 years, considering we now know of what mistakes to "prevent" in a Constitutional Republic (with strong democratic ties).
Well, err, Good luck..
Sounds like you'll need it.
Aye aye aye... I didnt understand the scope of the problem. I was worried about being tied to some Windows app through a shim (thats all VeeBee programmers can do), but Access???
Ill admit, the "preety" stuff in Access is nice to have for space-filling charts and other looks-good worthless crap, but shouldnt it be easy to get away from that?
And I have to ask, Did you pay MONEY for that?
---Whether you believe it or not, you are being poisoned. It may or may not be intentional, and I don't care if it is or isn't. But the fact of the matter is that the food production chain in most western nations is destroying the health of the consumers. There are a high number of chemicals that have found their way into the food supply due to their inexpensive provision of preservative, aesthetic and texture properties. Many of these chemicals may be the underlying cause of various chronic illnesses that are becoming epidemics in the western world. But we will never know because to compound the problem we are also being overmedicated.
Lemee guess... You're one of those enviro-wackos from say, Seattle, Oregon?
"Underlying chemicals", eh? DO you cook your meat under any sort of heating appratus? Do you have any idea what that meat turns into? There's tons of carcinogenic chemicals in that cooked meat. Also, do you wash your fruit? You just washed off most all the water solulable vitamins they have.
---One of the worst ingredients that has found it's way into too much of the food supply is white processed sugar. One can of soft drink can contain up to 14 tablespoons of sugar in it. Sugar also has some light preservative qualities and tends to make everything taste better. In small quantities, sugar is mildly harmful.
Mildly harmful? WTF? Hows about quantity, not "OMG ITS CANE SUGAR!!!111". Hell, even diet coke has been shown that it messes with the body sugar regulation.
---But at the rate that we ingest sugar, it is downright dangerous. Don't believe me? Next time you are at the grocery, pick up most prepared foods and look at the ingredients. You'll find that sugar or high fructose corn syrup is in nearly everything.
Well, what would you suggest? Have you ever baked anything? Many things have sugar or require sugar.
---It's a bit frightening especially since I had a personal health issue that no doctor could solve until I cut food with sugar out of my diet. Compounded with the medications that doctors tried to give me to cure my sinus infections, I continued to get more and more ill rather than get better. But once I stopped taking the antibiotics and the prevacid and dumped white sugar, white rice, white flour, corn syrup and honey ouf of my diet, my various illnesses went away. It's been about three years now and my health is better than ever.
Ok. You just sound like a hypochondriac. You're prolly just some slob who was feeding his face 1 too many whoppers per day and came to the conclusion that you might be killing yourself. But now its the big nasty bugaboo "SUGAR!!!"not how you ate, you fatass tub of lard. And, by the way, docs cant help you if you dont follow the doctor reccomended course of action. And that means staying away from those fucking twinkies.
Have you asked them about recompiling with consideration for full support to WINE? It's not like demanding for Linux, instead just asking that it be Windows Emulator compatible.
Unless it's hellbent on MS-SQL, postgres would work fine (well, thats the biggest dependancy I can forsee).
Heh, no sence in being prudish. Its not like weve never heard of those words anyways..
To hell with people who have "sensitive" attitudes about todays curses.
You mean "FUCK YOU"?
If you have dumb filters, "FUK YUO".
F.U..| YOU.
They sure do.
Have any CS guys doing work for a company ACTUALLY have every license fly by their legal department? I wonder what the cost of Windows(pick your flavor) license has(compliance too), aside the cost of the actual right to use it per 1 machine?
And, now what's the cost of any GPL or GPL-like license has on a company?
Exactly, and they own a shitload of patents themselves too. They could EASILY arrange a ownership/license change in which it COULD be allowed.
Now, for things like veritasFS, you simply have those as dirty modules. Linux supports that easily.
--So when GPL3 is completed, GPL2 things do not automatically update to GPL3 terms do they?
They can, if and ONLY if, every person who touched even 1 bit of the code agrees.
If anybody disagrees with a license change (in a GPL type software), the only way to ignore them is by excising all of their code. Nobody wants to do that.
And something about a Xserver being included with GCC.... Wonder what that could allow one to do...
Nawwww...