Consider that it was Bill Gates, in 1985, who approached Apple management first about them needing to enter the clone market, and he had several big manufacturers lined up. Apple Refused.
Microsoft then started work on Windows, and eventually succeeded in creating a graphical environment within which to run their applications.
Furthermore, Gates prefered the Motorola architecture, which explains that statement.
Make no mistake about it - it was Apple's arrogance that created Windows, so to speak, more specifically John Sculley's lack of brains.
Currently, we have a global lingua-franca in the form of English, which requires that domain names and in some way URLs, use English and the appropriate characterset. In many ways, this brings people together around a common set of rules, yet still gives tremendous individual leeway.
By introducing domain names with national-characterset (and, make no mistake about it, the reason behind this is puirely profit-drive), you are introducing the equivalent of national barriers which will make it annoyingly difficult, if not outright impossible, for westerners to reach oriental websites (for example) - more so for Windows users, than Mac users (Macs have a majority of western characters accessible via pretty much any alphabetic keyboatd through simple, and intuitive keyboard combinations).
This must be the most incredibly stupid suggestion I have ever read.
> Seriously though, you cannot deny that
> religion gets a lot of crap on Slashdot.
Usually, a sign of enlightenment by the posters.... It's not like people get up in the morning and decide "I'm gonna bash a Cjrstian today", but rather that people have some pretty good reasons for their reactions to self-proclaimed Christians...
> Posting the words, "I am Christian" is like
> asking 5 AC's to flame you on the double.
Because, usually, the need to post "I am a Christian" is part of an annoying Christian habit to 'spread the gospel', or communicate to all that they are CHristian - I don't see anyone else on here with the need to add "I am agnostic", or "I am an atheist", or "I am buddhist" in order to support or make their argument.
The argument Christ-Boy made entirely hinged on his Christianity, and hence entirely lost any and all legitimacy it might have other wise had about legitimate privacy and biological concerns.
"Fear of Hellfire..." - My ass!
> Moreover, people here tend to ignore your
> opinions and label you as stupid or a troll
> because of your religious choices.
Absolutely not - such labeling does not happen exclusively because of religious choices. Christ-Boy earlier made an entirely stupid argument, one that is not far, or very different from 90% of the arguments of most other people that need to add "I am a Christian" , and their assumptions of what God wants in their posts.
I think such posters are labeled and made fun of far more frequently because their proselitized postings are annoying, and stupid.
Harry
I'm not trying to be a martyr, I'm just saying that religion recieves no respect here.
The entire religiously tainted paragraph has just pretty much invalidated any legitimacy this paster might have had.
> This a travesty to mankind, a travesty to
> nature, and to me personally: a travesty to
> the work of Our Lord
What really ticks me off is, every time, Christians having the audacity to claim they speak for God - how does this idiot know what the 'work of Our Lord' is? Heck, why did his God give man a brain, if not to use it. Maybe God wants us to device these kind of devices
> Man was simply not meant to be
> intermingled with machines.
'not meant' - on what grounds? based on what evidence? Since he's a CHristian, I assume the only grounds necessary are the divine word. As best as I recall, there is no part in the Bible that prevents the intermingling of human and machine - unless he's gonna quote some missing book, or re-reinterpret some completely unrelated part.
> in exchange for a piece of his human soul?
Wow, where'd this come from - I had no idea that souls were quantifiable, and that these ID tracking chips actually suck up the soul, ortake up the place of the soul. Man, those Christians - what awesome scientists...
> I don't often use threats of hellfire and wrath upon my fellow man
ROTFLOL! ROTFLOL!
> but I'm afraid that's what ADS is looking
> forward to.
And they, and every other man, are quaking in their boots knowing they have just been cursed - NOT!
a) That information was clearly available in the links provided within the first few words.
b) Not only is this a case of RTFM (or CTFL), but I certainly am glad that Slashdot has not degenerated into a newsforum that caters to the lowest denominator crowd that needs to have information spoonfed, carefully, to them, and that requires help wiping their ass.
c) If you belong to that crowd, there are other news outlets for you. If you don't, you should be intelligent enough to follow a link, and read (and comprehend) text.
I think, at least in the case of Amazon, the whole patent thing was simply a mechanism to, hopefully, stick it to B&N. Amazon took the risk with the online bookstore, and B&N simply went ahead to copy it and claim THEY innovated.
Of course, the downside is that if the patent DOES stick, it's a dangerous precedent.
The voltage of electricty does not overclock - increasing frequency does. All you'd achieve with increasing the voltage of any system is burning out connections.
> I like macs, but I won't be buying any more because of the difficulty in > upgrading them. It's just like trying to upgrade a notebook computer: if an > upgrade path exists at all, it's usually prohibitively expensive.
What the hell are you talking about???
Macs, for the past many years, have been extremely upgradeable, to the point where I am using my original PowerMac 8500 (from 1996), which has since then been upgraded to a G3 processor through the use of an upgrade board since the processor is on a daughtercard.
G3/G4s are just as upgradeable, since the processor is on a ZIF socket - and thus many G3 owners are currently upgrading to G4s - newer G4 owners need a ROM patch.
So, what the heck is difficult about that?
Maybe you should inform yourself instead of buying into FUD.
The G3/G4 is one of the easiest to open and thus get inside the machine for upgrades. The system accepts 1gb+ of RAM upgrades, 3 internal hard drives, internal ZIP, internal DVD-RAM/ROM, internal dedicated modem slot.
You can easily add more with the 3 PCI and one Fast-Video slot.
What the hell are you talking about!?!
Furthermore, the new motherboards that the 450/500 MHz versions are based on are of a far more modular and unified design.
I really dislike it when people spout off about things they know nothing about.
Harry
P.S. Here's a clue, Macs also don't have 9" monitors anymore, and they can display color.
...That guy was given way too much influence with Voyager, and all the worst episodes are (surprise) written by him.
The original storyline for First Contact was by Braga, and involved Picard and Cochrane involved in a romance, because this moron didn't know Cochrane was a *MAN*.
If this nitwit has anything to do with the next show, I won't even bother tuning in.
> But Apple will never learn. And with Steve > "Reality Distortion Field" Jobs back in the > saddle, it will stay mired in the business > practices of the bad old 80s
That's right - that's why Apple is doing so well, because they are doing everything wrong.
It cost Apple millions to implement and design FireWire, and a $1 per prot fee, especially for exclusively high-end devices, is pretty reasonable.
> Some times these damn tech companys really piss me off, The way they play > politics with these types of things, instaid of giving us good technology. > *sigh*
Get a clue!
Apple *IS* giving the consumer good technology, but they are also, finally, doing something about having their technology ripped off by everyone left and right without paying Apple for their R&D.
Apple has invested some serious dollars in creating a standard (IEEE.1394) that is openly usable, and porvides high-performance for data exchange. In fact, you'd be hard-pressed to see a DV camcorder that doesn't have FireWire ports built-in these days.
At the very least, they can expect an infinitessimal royalty payment for those that use those ports to add far more value to their product than the measly $1 Apple charges.
Of course, no one in the PC world overcharges, or tries to squelch competition with unrealistic licensing fees.... Think M$.
Harry
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...where the sun doesn't shine.
Slashodt provides links and information to news. Just because they miught not report the kind of news you want to read, in the manner that you may want to read them, doesn't mean they are Wintel minions.
> In all of the computers I've used, in all of the computer stores I've been to > (including the one I work at), and from all of the people I've talked to, I've > never heard of (or seen) anything that uses Firewire.
s'okay - FioreWire is used on High-end machines, mostly for video transfer and some storage. Not surprising your demographic hasn't seen it - it's not a consumer 'toy'.
> Maybe you could count the iMac, but that's a "foreign world" as far as I'm > concerned.
Well, that explains it - since the iMac doesn't have FireWire (it uses USB), and if you're located on the PC side of the fence, the above, first statement, applies.
Claiming that Apple is flakey is simply not fair. They have met their delivery dates on all Mac OS releases so far, and the systems have been rock solid - the upgrades only adding new features, and better technologies every time - and those work pretty well too.
So, you are correct about the 'old' Apple being terrible, clueless flakes. The 'new' Apple under Jobs is quite a different story. Not everything I agree with (the new Quicktime player GUI - blech - for example), but for the most part they are doing just about everything right (releasing an open, now linux compatible, version of QT Streaming Server (runs beautifully), having stable OS' again, for a pleasant change, developing a solid server OS, and migrating to a UNIX kernel based OS - and, of course, building the best damn computers).
Yes, I like Apple, and I like Macintosh - but I also like Linux, and I happen to think the two can coexist.
Thanks for your suggestions, and I will go with the MPEG1 format for the cross-platform movie.
I will provide Sorenson, for the simple fact that it provides excellent size/performance/quality ratios - besides, I happen to think that QuickTime (and my favorite tool, Media Cleaner Pro) simply kick ass.
That doesn't mean that I want to blindly ignore other formats, and other platforms, as most sites are wont to do - hence why I was thrilled to see this question get posted here, and the enthusiastic responses I have received.
Good ideas about the MPEG movie format. That's most likely what I'll end up using - most compatible.
I'll still end up using Sorenson for the Mac/Win side, simply because the quality and size of a Sorenson QT is simply EXTREMELY nice, and it can be streamed using QTSS - which is another thing we want to do with some QTs.
Agreed on the player's interface (and apparently Apple's new GUI direction - blech!), but disagree on QuickTime being horrible. You are confusing codecs and the QuickTime format. QT is actually VERY flexible, and VERY beautiful to use - I do concur with many that I wish Apple would open it up more (at least to the point of making player APIs available for different platforms).
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Consider that it was Bill Gates, in 1985, who approached Apple management first about them needing to enter the clone market, and he had several big manufacturers lined up. Apple Refused.
Microsoft then started work on Windows, and eventually succeeded in creating a graphical environment within which to run their applications.
Furthermore, Gates prefered the Motorola architecture, which explains that statement.
Make no mistake about it - it was Apple's arrogance that created Windows, so to speak, more specifically John Sculley's lack of brains.
Harry
Currently, we have a global lingua-franca in the form of English, which requires that domain names and in some way URLs, use English and the appropriate characterset. In many ways, this brings people together around a common set of rules, yet still gives tremendous individual leeway.
By introducing domain names with national-characterset (and, make no mistake about it, the reason behind this is puirely profit-drive), you are introducing the equivalent of national barriers which will make it annoyingly difficult, if not outright impossible, for westerners to reach oriental websites (for example) - more so for Windows users, than Mac users (Macs have a majority of western characters accessible via pretty much any alphabetic keyboatd through simple, and intuitive keyboard combinations).
This must be the most incredibly stupid suggestion I have ever read.
Harry
> Seriously though, you cannot deny that
> religion gets a lot of crap on Slashdot.
Usually, a sign of enlightenment by the posters.... It's not like people get up in the morning and decide "I'm gonna bash a Cjrstian today", but rather that people have some pretty good reasons for their reactions to self-proclaimed Christians...
> Posting the words, "I am Christian" is like
> asking 5 AC's to flame you on the double.
Because, usually, the need to post "I am a Christian" is part of an annoying Christian habit to 'spread the gospel', or communicate to all that they are CHristian - I don't see anyone else on here with the need to add "I am agnostic", or "I am an atheist", or "I am buddhist" in order to support or make their argument.
The argument Christ-Boy made entirely hinged on his Christianity, and hence entirely lost any and all legitimacy it might have other wise had about legitimate privacy and biological concerns.
"Fear of Hellfire..." - My ass!
> Moreover, people here tend to ignore your
> opinions and label you as stupid or a troll
> because of your religious choices.
Absolutely not - such labeling does not happen exclusively because of religious choices. Christ-Boy earlier made an entirely stupid argument, one that is not far, or very different from 90% of the arguments of most other people that need to add "I am a Christian" , and their assumptions of what God wants in their posts.
I think such posters are labeled and made fun of far more frequently because their proselitized postings are annoying, and stupid.
Harry
I'm not trying to be a martyr, I'm just saying that religion recieves no respect here.
The entire religiously tainted paragraph has just pretty much invalidated any legitimacy this paster might have had.
> This a travesty to mankind, a travesty to
> nature, and to me personally: a travesty to
> the work of Our Lord
What really ticks me off is, every time, Christians having the audacity to claim they speak for God - how does this idiot know what the 'work of Our Lord' is? Heck, why did his God give man a brain, if not to use it. Maybe God wants us to device these kind of devices
> Man was simply not meant to be
> intermingled with machines.
'not meant' - on what grounds? based on what evidence? Since he's a CHristian, I assume the only grounds necessary are the divine word. As best as I recall, there is no part in the Bible that prevents the intermingling of human and machine - unless he's gonna quote some missing book, or re-reinterpret some completely unrelated part.
> in exchange for a piece of his human soul?
Wow, where'd this come from - I had no idea that souls were quantifiable, and that these ID tracking chips actually suck up the soul, ortake up the place of the soul. Man, those Christians - what awesome scientists...
> I don't often use threats of hellfire and wrath upon my fellow man
ROTFLOL! ROTFLOL!
> but I'm afraid that's what ADS is looking
> forward to.
And they, and every other man, are quaking in their boots knowing they have just been cursed - NOT!
Harry
a) That information was clearly available in the links provided within the first few words.
b) Not only is this a case of RTFM (or CTFL), but I certainly am glad that Slashdot has not degenerated into a newsforum that caters to the lowest denominator crowd that needs to have information spoonfed, carefully, to them, and that requires help wiping their ass.
c) If you belong to that crowd, there are other news outlets for you. If you don't, you should be intelligent enough to follow a link, and read (and comprehend) text.
-Harry
I think, at least in the case of Amazon, the whole patent thing was simply a mechanism to, hopefully, stick it to B&N. Amazon took the risk with the online bookstore, and B&N simply went ahead to copy it and claim THEY innovated.
Of course, the downside is that if the patent DOES stick, it's a dangerous precedent.
Harry
The voltage of electricty does not overclock - increasing frequency does. All you'd achieve with increasing the voltage of any system is burning out connections.
Harry
...standard operating speed is 1 gigaflop.
Have fun squeezing that out of your PII 450mhz, wintel-boy!
Once again, Wintel drones can't even get their specs, or their facts right - no wonder they can't get any serious work done.
Harry
> I like macs, but I won't be buying any more because of the difficulty in
> upgrading them. It's just like trying to upgrade a notebook computer: if an
> upgrade path exists at all, it's usually prohibitively expensive.
What the hell are you talking about???
Macs, for the past many years, have been extremely upgradeable, to the point where I am using my original PowerMac 8500 (from 1996), which has since then been upgraded to a G3 processor through the use of an upgrade board since the processor is on a daughtercard.
G3/G4s are just as upgradeable, since the processor is on a ZIF socket - and thus many G3 owners are currently upgrading to G4s - newer G4 owners need a ROM patch.
So, what the heck is difficult about that?
Maybe you should inform yourself instead of buying into FUD.
Harry
> It's still difficult to upgrade
What are you? Smoking crack?
The G3/G4 is one of the easiest to open and thus get inside the machine for upgrades. The system accepts 1gb+ of RAM upgrades, 3 internal hard drives, internal ZIP, internal DVD-RAM/ROM, internal dedicated modem slot.
You can easily add more with the 3 PCI and one Fast-Video slot.
What the hell are you talking about!?!
Furthermore, the new motherboards that the 450/500 MHz versions are based on are of a far more modular and unified design.
I really dislike it when people spout off about things they know nothing about.
Harry
P.S. Here's a clue, Macs also don't have 9" monitors anymore, and they can display color.
> Fancy label, fancy price tag but nothing special
> compared to the £20 clones
I assume your £20 clones have gigaflop performance?
Of course they don't.
Check your specs before making a fool of yourself.
Harry
...That guy was given way too much influence with Voyager, and all the worst episodes are (surprise) written by him.
The original storyline for First Contact was by Braga, and involved Picard and Cochrane involved in a romance, because this moron didn't know Cochrane was a *MAN*.
If this nitwit has anything to do with the next show, I won't even bother tuning in.
Harry
> But Apple will never learn. And with Steve
> "Reality Distortion Field" Jobs back in the
> saddle, it will stay mired in the business
> practices of the bad old 80s
That's right - that's why Apple is doing so well, because they are doing everything wrong.
It cost Apple millions to implement and design FireWire, and a $1 per prot fee, especially for exclusively high-end devices, is pretty reasonable.
Harry
> Some times these damn tech companys really piss me off, The way they play
> politics with these types of things, instaid of giving us good technology.
> *sigh*
Get a clue!
Apple *IS* giving the consumer good technology, but they are also, finally, doing something about having their technology ripped off by everyone left and right without paying Apple for their R&D.
Apple has invested some serious dollars in creating a standard (IEEE.1394) that is openly usable, and porvides high-performance for data exchange. In fact, you'd be hard-pressed to see a DV camcorder that doesn't have FireWire ports built-in these days.
At the very least, they can expect an infinitessimal royalty payment for those that use those ports to add far more value to their product than the measly $1 Apple charges.
Of course, no one in the PC world overcharges, or tries to squelch competition with unrealistic licensing fees.... Think M$.
Harry
...where the sun doesn't shine.
Slashodt provides links and information to news. Just because they miught not report the kind of news you want to read, in the manner that you may want to read them, doesn't mean they are Wintel minions.
That's just plain juveniel and idiotic.
Harry
> In all of the computers I've used, in all of the computer stores I've been to
> (including the one I work at), and from all of the people I've talked to, I've
> never heard of (or seen) anything that uses Firewire.
s'okay - FioreWire is used on High-end machines, mostly for video transfer and some storage. Not surprising your demographic hasn't seen it - it's not a consumer 'toy'.
> Maybe you could count the iMac, but that's a "foreign world" as far as I'm
> concerned.
Well, that explains it - since the iMac doesn't have FireWire (it uses USB), and if you're located on the PC side of the fence, the above, first statement, applies.
Harry
Thanks, everyone for all your ideas and suggestions - as I said several times, MPEG is probably what I'll end up with, in addition to the QT formats.
I'll head off now to run a compression test to see how small and how good I can get one of our project files.
Thanks again,
Harry
> copy existing implementations
> they never innovate.
ext2fs?
bzip2?
Harry
Claiming that Apple is flakey is simply not fair. They have met their delivery dates on all Mac OS releases so far, and the systems have been rock solid - the upgrades only adding new features, and better technologies every time - and those work pretty well too.
So, you are correct about the 'old' Apple being terrible, clueless flakes. The 'new' Apple under Jobs is quite a different story. Not everything I agree with (the new Quicktime player GUI - blech - for example), but for the most part they are doing just about everything right (releasing an open, now linux compatible, version of QT Streaming Server (runs beautifully), having stable OS' again, for a pleasant change, developing a solid server OS, and migrating to a UNIX kernel based OS - and, of course, building the best damn computers).
Yes, I like Apple, and I like Macintosh - but I also like Linux, and I happen to think the two can coexist.
Harry
Thanks for your suggestions, and I will go with the MPEG1 format for the cross-platform movie.
I will provide Sorenson, for the simple fact that it provides excellent size/performance/quality ratios - besides, I happen to think that QuickTime (and my favorite tool, Media Cleaner Pro) simply kick ass.
That doesn't mean that I want to blindly ignore other formats, and other platforms, as most sites are wont to do - hence why I was thrilled to see this question get posted here, and the enthusiastic responses I have received.
Thanks to everyone.
Harry
Have to.
They are movie sites.
That would make your question a big "Duh!' in retrospect.
:-)
Harry
> Apple (and thus QT) will be long gone
> in a year or so.
Cute.
You'd figure after repeating themselves erroneously for close to 10 years, these folks would get a clue - instead, they just provide entertainment.
QT was just accepted as part of the MPG4 specs, so I doubt very much it will go away.
Bye.
Harry
Good ideas about the MPEG movie format. That's most likely what I'll end up using - most compatible.
I'll still end up using Sorenson for the Mac/Win side, simply because the quality and size of a Sorenson QT is simply EXTREMELY nice, and it can be streamed using QTSS - which is another thing we want to do with some QTs.
Agreed on the player's interface (and apparently Apple's new GUI direction - blech!), but disagree on QuickTime being horrible. You are confusing codecs and the QuickTime format. QT is actually VERY flexible, and VERY beautiful to use - I do concur with many that I wish Apple would open it up more (at least to the point of making player APIs available for different platforms).
Thanks for the suggestions.
Harry