The higher wage person needs less from the government, is much more able to achieve his goals without government assistance and pays far more for what ever assistance they do receive.
The GP made the statement that "There is a fundamental mistake in figuring that someone who makes 15K a year uses less government than someone who makes $300k."
You turn right around and assert that we are to remember that $15k uses less government.
Yet you offer no justification for your statement what so ever, in spite of the fact that the low wage person is much more dependent on government handouts, than the high wage earner.
When directly contradicting an assertion you owe us a little bit more of an explanation than simply countering "Does Not" with "Does Too" like a kindergarten child.
The key point is that no one works for free forever, and LibreOffice will need a way to make money eventually or forever be dependent on having key salaries paid by big corporations.
That might be a satisfactory situation. Its worked in the past. The problem is that it is a pretty shaky foundation.
But I predict that the Doc Foundation will have to offer a paid version or paid support or something to keep the lights on. Even your Mom will charge rent for the Basement after a while.
$100 billion for space-based research or $100 billion for Welfare and War.
Not really a touch decision.
Exactly so. And spending on either of the other would lose the first derivative, (the valuable result of the first transaction, prior to the money percolating down to the bag boy at the local grocery store).
Contrary to popular perception, rockets were not stuffed full of Dollars, Euros, and rubles, all to be scattered in space. All the money was spent on earth.
But beyond that, the value of the station was in the building of same./me invokes Marshall McLuhan, The medium is the message).
This particular space station may not serve any real science purpose other than the engineering learning derived from its construction and assembly, and the world wide cooperation used to build in, staff it, and support it. That alone is worth the 100 billion.
At its foundation, math is very closely tied with logic in that it is deductive rather than inductive,
Well you've made an excellent argument for teaching Logic, but I can't see that you've made the case for advance maths any more than use of a simple lever such as a crow bar requires a degree in engineering.
Logic, too often captured by math departments in schools at all levels, actually has applicability far wider than math, and had its origin in rhetoric and reasoning rather than math.
You site the fact that people can't understand probability (by way of coincidence) in support of your assertion that "Understanding it and applying it aren't the same thing".
So by your own statement it would seem that understanding, as the GP suggests, is the foremost problem, and once that is achieved, the problems of application will take care of themselves.
So in other words, you never bring anything into production status.
Look, its really quite simple.
HTTP was a presentation mechanism, designed to deliver content, dependent on non persistent connections, where each initial and each subsequent request had to supply all information necessary to fulfill said request. Even if you "log in" to your account, every request stands alone.
There is no persistent connection. There is no reliable persistent knowledge on the server side that can be positivity attributed to any given client. Clients are like motorists at a drive up window of a Burger stand, not well known patrons at a restaurant.
Given that scenario, it was inevitable that cookies would be developed, and employed.
So unless you were willing to hold off deployment of e-commerce until you totally rewrote HTTP into a persistent connection based protocol, totally replaced the browser as the client side tool, any grandstanding on how carefully and methodically you work is just grandiose bravado.
The only tool at hand was http and web servers and browsers. Its still largely the same today. There was no other way besides cookies of some sort. You may argue about their structure, their content or what ever, but cookies are all that is on the menu.
(only constrained by the grain of the film itself)
At what pixel density to we approach the finest grain film? I thought we were well past that already. Perhaps I misunderstood?
But do we not also "Throw away" information when printing from film? Its such a selective process, exposure just so, or you lose the shadows. Paper also has grain. Is it fine enough?
"WE" also fund public universities, which allow professors to do research, which leads to patents, which the universities then license as they see fit as a means of revenue generation. Same basic deal here.
Personally, I kinda like the idea of NASA putting in the legwork for research with public funding, then getting some ROI.
Exactly.
The reason government agencies patent anything is so that no one can come along later and make claims against the government for using something they claim to have invented.
All of these patents are by law held in trust for the People, and (unless there is a national defense angle) free to access and use.
The government is not a university which includes a mix of public and private funding. The government is by definition publicly funded.
I suspect this will not withstand a court challenge.
Yes, yes, we all are pretty much aware of DSL limitations by now. But the point is as fiber is pushed into the neighborhood the distance over copper is reduced. Because what used to have to be located in the nearest exchange can now be in the distribution panel on the corner of the block.
Um. great, how many people are within 2 city blocks of the local wire center?
They need to be working on extending the speeds out past 15,000 feet (5,000M) if they want folks to get excited.
With more neighborhoods being served with Fiber to the neighood distribution cabinet I would say the majority of people in newer neighborhoods are withing reach.
Old cities, not so much. You often nave multi-mile copper runs in those places.
But fiber is being pushed closer every day even when you don't have fiber in front of your home.
Even double the number of agents have to tear cars apart to find the drugs. Drug dogs catch only the stupid.
And every one who has driven the border has asked it to be quicker. The lines are outrageous.
So that answers the first two questions. By the way, have you ever crossed the border? Anywhere beyond your own county line?
These were initially developed to screen container ship cargo at ports ports (have you seen a Container ship, or do you live in the middle of a corn field somewhere)?
I'm completely confused by your remark that someone produced them and then needed to sell them.
Can you name one manufactured product to which that does NOT apply? One innovation anytime in the last 2000 years will do, I'm not asking for too much research on your part.
The irony of this proposal is that many professors, realizing that book prices are just obscene in the academic market, are preparing their own materials and giving them to the students for the cost of printing them.
Wait, where did you go to school?
My professors WROTE many of the texts they used, or the would use the texts of their department buddies, who in turn would use their texts.
Professors are often the authors, especially in the stable social sciences and arts, and business areas, where not much new happens quickly.
Etexts are often tied to some form of DRM, which prevents duplication, but also kills off Used Book markets.
For the most part, the publishers have contrived to prevent used Ebooks from being sold, or given away on the pretense of preventing piracy and illegal duplication.
Unless or Until someone takes them to court you can expect this to continue to the point that a book collection is a dead end for society and the owner as well.
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So all things come from government?
Is that what you are going with?
The higher wage person needs less from the government, is much more able to achieve his goals without government assistance and pays far more for what ever assistance they do receive.
Never mind how many, I'm still wondering about that number.
I'm sure there is a swoosh involved somewhere, but what is the significance of 3133.70?
The GP made the statement that "There is a fundamental mistake in figuring that someone who makes 15K a year uses less government than someone who makes $300k."
You turn right around and assert that we are to remember that $15k uses less government.
Yet you offer no justification for your statement what so ever, in spite of the fact that the low wage person is much more dependent on government handouts, than the high wage earner.
When directly contradicting an assertion you owe us a little bit more of an explanation than simply countering "Does Not" with "Does Too" like a kindergarten child.
Mod parent Informative.
The key point is that no one works for free forever, and LibreOffice will need a way to make money eventually or forever be dependent on having key salaries paid by big corporations.
That might be a satisfactory situation. Its worked in the past. The problem is that it is a pretty shaky foundation.
But I predict that the Doc Foundation will have to offer a paid version or paid support or something to keep the lights on. Even your Mom will charge rent for the Basement after a while.
$100 billion for space-based research or $100 billion for Welfare and War.
Not really a touch decision.
Exactly so. And spending on either of the other would lose the first derivative, (the valuable result of the first transaction, prior to the money percolating down to the bag boy at the local grocery store).
Contrary to popular perception, rockets were not stuffed full of Dollars, Euros, and rubles, all to be scattered in space. All the money was spent on earth.
But beyond that, the value of the station was in the building of same. /me invokes Marshall McLuhan, The medium is the message).
This particular space station may not serve any real science purpose other than the engineering learning derived from its construction and assembly, and the world wide cooperation used to build in, staff it, and support it. That alone is worth the 100 billion.
As a programmer, I find I use nothing more advanced than simple addition, subtraction, etc five nines of the time.
Logic yes. Advanced maths? Nope.
Ouch, I screwed up what is quote and what is not. Math won't help, but application of logic will reveal the intent.
At its foundation, math is very closely tied with logic in that it is deductive rather than inductive,
Well you've made an excellent argument for teaching Logic, but I can't see that you've made the case for advance maths any more than use of a simple lever such as a crow bar requires a degree in engineering.
Logic, too often captured by math departments in schools at all levels, actually has applicability far wider than math, and had its origin in rhetoric and reasoning rather than math.
You site the fact that people can't understand probability (by way of coincidence) in support of your assertion that "Understanding it and applying it aren't the same thing".
So by your own statement it would seem that understanding, as the GP suggests, is the foremost problem, and once that is achieved, the problems of application will take care of themselves.
So in other words, you never bring anything into production status.
Look, its really quite simple.
HTTP was a presentation mechanism, designed to deliver content, dependent on non persistent connections, where each initial and each subsequent request had to supply all information necessary to fulfill said request. Even if you "log in" to your account, every request stands alone.
There is no persistent connection. There is no reliable persistent knowledge on the server side that can be positivity attributed to any given client. Clients are like motorists at a drive up window of a Burger stand, not well known patrons at a restaurant.
Given that scenario, it was inevitable that cookies would be developed, and employed.
So unless you were willing to hold off deployment of e-commerce until you totally rewrote HTTP into a persistent connection based protocol, totally replaced the browser as the client side tool, any grandstanding on how carefully and methodically you work is just grandiose bravado.
The only tool at hand was http and web servers and browsers. Its still largely the same today. There was no other way besides cookies of some sort. You may argue about their structure, their content or what ever, but cookies are all that is on the menu.
Ah, I see. Didn't actually get that far since I have no use for Facebook.
Why would they redirect insecure? SSL takes very little additional resources once your session key is established?
Seems they could solve this if the weren't so cheap.
But facebook DOES support https, no?
I'm confused.
Wouldn't just logging in to https.facebook.com and log on from there solve the problem?
Not to belabor the obvious, but who said anything about injections?
Immunization does not require injections.
Can we stop now? Please?
Caprica was poorly written, badly acted, and all but unwatchable. BSG was the complete opposite.
There is no need to reach for some crazy theory about market structure when simply watching a single episode would explain the situation.
There are two more people at the table.
(only constrained by the grain of the film itself)
At what pixel density to we approach the finest grain film?
I thought we were well past that already. Perhaps I misunderstood?
But do we not also "Throw away" information when printing from film? Its such a selective process, exposure just so, or you lose the shadows. Paper also has grain. Is it fine enough?
"WE" also fund public universities, which allow professors to do research, which leads to patents, which the universities then license as they see fit as a means of revenue generation. Same basic deal here.
Personally, I kinda like the idea of NASA putting in the legwork for research with public funding, then getting some ROI.
Exactly.
The reason government agencies patent anything is so that no one can come along later and make claims against the government for using something they claim to have invented.
All of these patents are by law held in trust for the People, and (unless there is a national defense angle) free to access and use.
The government is not a university which includes a mix of public and private funding. The government is by definition publicly funded.
I suspect this will not withstand a court challenge.
Yes, yes, we all are pretty much aware of DSL limitations by now. But the point is as fiber is pushed into the neighborhood the distance over copper is reduced. Because what used to have to be located in the nearest exchange can now be in the distribution panel on the corner of the block.
Um. great, how many people are within 2 city blocks of the local wire center?
They need to be working on extending the speeds out past 15,000 feet (5,000M) if they want folks to get excited.
With more neighborhoods being served with Fiber to the neighood distribution cabinet I would say the majority of people in newer neighborhoods are withing reach.
Old cities, not so much. You often nave multi-mile copper runs in those places.
But fiber is being pushed closer every day even when you don't have fiber in front of your home.
Even double the number of agents have to tear cars apart to find the drugs. Drug dogs catch only the stupid.
And every one who has driven the border has asked it to be quicker. The lines are outrageous.
So that answers the first two questions. By the way, have you ever crossed the border? Anywhere beyond your own county line?
These were initially developed to screen container ship cargo at ports ports (have you seen a Container ship, or do you live in the middle of a corn field somewhere)?
I'm completely confused by your remark that someone produced them and then needed to sell them.
Can you name one manufactured product to which that does NOT apply? One innovation anytime in the last 2000 years will do, I'm not asking for too much research on your part.
The irony of this proposal is that many professors, realizing that book prices are just obscene in the academic market, are preparing their own materials and giving them to the students for the cost of printing them.
Wait, where did you go to school?
My professors WROTE many of the texts they used, or the would use the texts of their department buddies, who in turn would use their texts.
Professors are often the authors, especially in the stable social sciences and arts, and business areas, where not much new happens quickly.
Etexts are often tied to some form of DRM, which prevents duplication, but also kills off Used Book markets.
For the most part, the publishers have contrived to prevent used Ebooks from being sold, or given away on the pretense of preventing piracy and illegal duplication.
Unless or Until someone takes them to court you can expect this to continue to the point that a book collection is a dead end for society and the owner as well.
If you were tasked with discovering drugs hidden in vehicles at the Mexican border this might be a lot easier and quicker than tearing vehicles apart.
If you believe that is "bogus" then I think you owe us a definition of the word.
You might disagree with the mission of detecting drugs, but that does not render the production of tools to do so quickly as "Bogus".
Come on, tell me, what's the real purpose of this stuff? 8 million flights without a successful terrorist attack since 9/11.
I read TFA, (I know, I know), and reference to air flights was fleeting to the point of non-existent.
Smuggled drugs, bombs, and people were the focus.
Your raising the issue of Air safety, and then smacking it down is excellent Straw Man technique.
Well played sir.