Maybe that utter cluelessness is why no one will hire you.
Who the fuck are you? Who the fuck are you to talk about my level of knowledge? Ain't no fucking cubicle job needs years of on-the-job experience. It doesn't take years to learn how to schedule meetings. People in cubicles produce nothing. They build nothing. Give it up.
but there are a lot of jobs where just being well educated and highly motivated don't cut it.
Yeah, and they all have one thing in common: they are all supervised by a lying dumbass. Any hiring manager that actually believes there is any job where education and work ethic don't matter is a fucking moron.
I don't know what reality you are inhabiting, but nobody I know is in that position.
Must be nice living in a perfect world.
They seem perfectly able to buy nice houses, good cars, etc.
By stealing opportunity from other people, firing them, taking away their benefits, paying slaves to make products sold at 500,000% markups. Sure.
Of course, they are good at what they do.
So am I. In fact, I'm better at what I do than they are at what they do. I'm also smarter than they are. Managers hate confident people, because confident people don't put up with being lied to and fucked over. So the confident people don't get hired. Simple. Right?
The worth of an engineer is not measured by the number of languages known.
Of course not. See, this is the easiest (and most dishonest) way to disqualify someone. Simply move the bar. If they know X, then Y is the qualification. If they know Y, then X and Z are the qualifications. Therefore, no matter what you know, you're not qualified, and they can ship the job to a $4 a day temp somewhere and spend the difference on "nice houses, good cars, etc." and "certainly a perfectly comfortable life."
The point is, nobody is going to offer you a job because you "know 8 languages".
Good. I didn't ask for one.
You know, I'm beginning to see why you are in the position you claim to be in.
Oh good, so you've worked for motherfucking liars too?
I don't think it's a problem with the industry.
Sure it is. It's a problem with all business. Business is about "stuff my pockets and fuck everyone else" now.
Being good at ranting is not going to get you a tech job.
I didn't ask for a tech job. I gave up on tech jobs a LONG time ago, not long after being laid off by, you guessed it, a motherfucking liar.
Work on your attitude a bit, and perhaps someone will want to hire you.
Typical middle management attitude: suck my ass and I might listen to you.
Most of the folks who interview with me mumble, stutter, and babble their way into another interview with another company.
Because if someone has a speech impediment they should go hungry. What, do they think they are entitled to a job or something? I mean really! Who the fuck do they think they are!?
Technical prowess is fine, but give me a motivated, intelligent, personable candidate any day.
There are plenty of very good jobs with benefits, etc. You just have to choose the right companies.
There are plenty of lottery jackpots. You just have to pick the right numbers. People keep saying "there are plenty of good jobs." But it's bullshit. Sorry.
Anything that meets these criteria should be at least a decent job.
For six months. Then it's a layoff.
A little secret for you: the HR department's primary purpose is to weed out anybody who doesn't really want to work at the company.
No. An HR department's primary purpose is to weed out anybody.
Once you have successfully circumvented the great HR firewall, getting jobs is easy.
Amazing we managed to build an economy without HR departments for 170 years, isn't it?
Oh, and one last thing: job advertisements always dramatically exaggerate the required skills.
No shit? You mean they are motherfucking liars? Never would have guessed.
We're not going to hire someone who just might theoretically be good at what we need after several months of retraining and a few years of on-the-job experience.
Of course not. Unless you're hiring research neurosurgeons or astronauts, I really REALLY doubt it takes "years" of on-the-job experience to do whatever the job is. But then, businesses can't be bothered with training people. That's someone else'e responsibility. Make the rest of society pay for it because we want perfect employees for free.
Still, the hyperbole is a little over the top in your post.
It's reality. I had one boss that wasn't a fucking liar. One.
Employees generally get a choice where to be employed
Sure, and since they'll be fired every six months, they'll get to exercise that choice over and over again.
so you could just sort of slide into a place and be comfortable
Yeah, I'd like to just "slide" into a place with a pile of qualifications that would blot out the sun. Sure. Anyone who wants more than a temp job wants to "slide" into a place and be "comfortable." Comfort defined as the ability to make consecutive electric bill payments on time. For some reason people think it's good for a person to lose their job every six months. It's good for people to live in constant financial stress. That's the free fucking market, right?
There's HUGE demand for good programmers these days.
As long as they're willing to work for shit in a perma-temp job with no benefits, sure.
Buy a home on those jobs? Not a chance. Be in Chapter 11 so fast it would make your head spin. Used to be able to raise a family on just about any full-time job. Now you're lucky to keep a job a year, if that, and then it's back to the want ads for another entry-level no benefits steerage-class slave assignment at temp wages working for some motherfucking rat asscrack lying cheat hairpiece phone-flipping mouth-fulla-bullshit salad-bar ordering upfuck crotch-sucking asshole.
If you have more than a trade-skill level knowledge
I knew eight programming languages. Couldn't rent a job with a coupon. Businesses never explain exactly what skills they want, because if they did, it would prove they were fucking liars.
Skepticism is a belief. These are facts. Just about every successful anything: book, television show, whatever, was turned down repeatedly prior to being given a chance and then succeeding. Given how often publishers are wrong, it's incredible that anyone listens to them at all. Every time one of their "it'll never work" rejects is given a chance, they are PROVEN wrong.
What are other IT workers doing to prepare for potential layoffs?
W-4 employment, along with nearly all IT "skills" is obsolete. Companies and the people who manage them no longer have the huevos to employ people. They would much rather shirk their responsibilities to the communities they insist on shoving their products at. They want it all for free. They want free access to free markets with free labor and free equipment, free buildings, free services and free use of all the infrastructure necessary for them to stuff their own pockets at everyone else's expense. Oh, and if you're about to reply "taxes," save it. Businesses pay no taxes other than sales, which is actually paid by the customers.
When asked, they will screech "free markets" and "capitalism" and "being competitive in the global marketplace" which are all euphemisms for "ram tall dollars into my pockets and fuck everyone else." "Sell the seed corn," they say. "We don't need the farm after I'm done shoving cash into my pockets." Of course all the people who depend on that farm so they can eat? Well, fuck them. They should go retrain so the next asscrack lying piece of shit can have a chance to fire them.
We, as a society, allow corporations the LUXURY and PRIVILEGE of being able to operate as corporations in exchange for certain benefits to society, among them the creation of JOBS and CAREERS and the availability of products and services. Business, naturally, is trying to fuck society by keeping the quo and not exchanging the quid, precisely the same way they are unfairly refusing to honor the original deal in the copyright laws. The reason is because they want everything for free.
Business wants free labor. If they can't have that they want slaves. If they can't have that they'll just fire everyone and close the store/factory/whatever. Profits are more important than not fucking over their neighbors and customers. When people question their hiring decisions they screech "marketable skills" without ever actually explaining what those are. Yet another scam and another lie from a bunch of rat fuck lying cheat phone-flipping asscracks.
Best way to prepare for a layoff is not to buy into the scam of W-4 employment. It's a fucking scam.
Nope. They're always wrong. Always. Every single time. Took Disney TEN YEARS to make Lilo and Stitch. $200 million box office. Every single major network passed on American Idol. Every. Single. One.
For every Harry Potter that some publisher OUGHT to have snagged but decided not to, there's a slush pile a mile high of manuscripts that will never get published anywhere, because they're complete garbage.
12 publishers thought Harry Potter was complete garbage.
Give up now! You cannot overcome the intertia of middle management! Twelve publishers passed on Harry Potter! Disney passed on Lord of the Rings! Skeptics always become middle managers and when they say "it'll never work" they are ALWAYS WRONG.
Once success is achieved the cynics and the skeptics sneer with open contempt at the new ideas and the people who build them. Nothing turns my stomach more than the entitlement attitude of tall dollars. The arrogance is so repulsive there are few words to describe it. Business builds walls around the "free market" and then tells everyone how fucking stupid they are for not being able to figure out how to be an "entrepreneur."
The fact is we, as a society, HATE ENTREPRENEURS and we do EVERYTHING WE CAN POSSIBLY DO to THWART and DEFEAT THEM. They're either "geeks" or "nerds" or circus acts on reality television after they got fired and laughed at on the other reality show.
It makes me fucking sick. Congratulations, gentlemen. The game industry sucks ass. You got exactly what you wanted.
Leveraging collective bargaining (and the power gained from #1) to give workers an artificial influence over their employer that they would not have normally.
Like say, the artificial influence voters have over the government? And I agree we must not give employees any undue influence over their employer! Keep them face down in shit!
Bastards.
In a free, competitive market there are no economic profits and each worker is paid according to his marginal productivity
HA! You think there's such a thing as a free market? Tell you what. Start an oil company. Then come back and tell me all about the "free market."
it's an awfully selfish way to get job security
Awwww dats too bad. You know, a mortgage is an awfully selfish way for a bank to make money too. You don't really believe this shit do you?
no one is left unable to feed their family
Except the 50% of people with no full-time job, but thanks for playing.
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Most small businesses are too small to pay a decent wage and provide decent benefits.
At least they aren't run by a bunch of motherfucking liars.
So what's antiquated about making a product and selling it?
Given so many companies seem to be incapable of doing it, a great deal, apparently.
It seems to me that people have just automatically assumed that larger businesses are bad
The larger businesses primary product is layoffs, which destroy careers, homes, neighborhoods, communities, educations, the economy and society.
Google is making a ton of money from people [small/medium sized businesses] who never were even in business before.
They have no choice but to be in business. They all got FIRED from their careers and lost their benefits.
Maybe that utter cluelessness is why no one will hire you.
Who the fuck are you? Who the fuck are you to talk about my level of knowledge? Ain't no fucking cubicle job needs years of on-the-job experience. It doesn't take years to learn how to schedule meetings. People in cubicles produce nothing. They build nothing. Give it up.
but there are a lot of jobs where just being well educated and highly motivated don't cut it.
Yeah, and they all have one thing in common: they are all supervised by a lying dumbass. Any hiring manager that actually believes there is any job where education and work ethic don't matter is a fucking moron.
I don't know what reality you are inhabiting, but nobody I know is in that position.
Must be nice living in a perfect world.
They seem perfectly able to buy nice houses, good cars, etc.
By stealing opportunity from other people, firing them, taking away their benefits, paying slaves to make products sold at 500,000% markups. Sure.
Of course, they are good at what they do.
So am I. In fact, I'm better at what I do than they are at what they do. I'm also smarter than they are. Managers hate confident people, because confident people don't put up with being lied to and fucked over. So the confident people don't get hired. Simple. Right?
The worth of an engineer is not measured by the number of languages known.
Of course not. See, this is the easiest (and most dishonest) way to disqualify someone. Simply move the bar. If they know X, then Y is the qualification. If they know Y, then X and Z are the qualifications. Therefore, no matter what you know, you're not qualified, and they can ship the job to a $4 a day temp somewhere and spend the difference on "nice houses, good cars, etc." and "certainly a perfectly comfortable life."
The point is, nobody is going to offer you a job because you "know 8 languages".
Good. I didn't ask for one.
You know, I'm beginning to see why you are in the position you claim to be in.
Oh good, so you've worked for motherfucking liars too?
I don't think it's a problem with the industry.
Sure it is. It's a problem with all business. Business is about "stuff my pockets and fuck everyone else" now.
Being good at ranting is not going to get you a tech job.
I didn't ask for a tech job. I gave up on tech jobs a LONG time ago, not long after being laid off by, you guessed it, a motherfucking liar.
Work on your attitude a bit, and perhaps someone will want to hire you.
Typical middle management attitude: suck my ass and I might listen to you.
Most of the folks who interview with me mumble, stutter, and babble their way into another interview with another company.
Because if someone has a speech impediment they should go hungry. What, do they think they are entitled to a job or something? I mean really! Who the fuck do they think they are!?
Technical prowess is fine, but give me a motivated, intelligent, personable candidate any day.
How about someone who is smarter than you?
why don't you go into business for yourself.
Now there's an idea!
If you do feel it necessary to work for someone else, why don't you diversify your skillset
"Diversify your skillset" is a scam designed to distract people from the fact they are being fucked out of their careers.
There are plenty of very good jobs with benefits, etc. You just have to choose the right companies.
There are plenty of lottery jackpots. You just have to pick the right numbers. People keep saying "there are plenty of good jobs." But it's bullshit. Sorry.
Anything that meets these criteria should be at least a decent job.
For six months. Then it's a layoff.
A little secret for you: the HR department's primary purpose is to weed out anybody who doesn't really want to work at the company.
No. An HR department's primary purpose is to weed out anybody.
Once you have successfully circumvented the great HR firewall, getting jobs is easy.
Amazing we managed to build an economy without HR departments for 170 years, isn't it?
Oh, and one last thing: job advertisements always dramatically exaggerate the required skills.
No shit? You mean they are motherfucking liars? Never would have guessed.
We're not going to hire someone who just might theoretically be good at what we need after several months of retraining and a few years of on-the-job experience.
Of course not. Unless you're hiring research neurosurgeons or astronauts, I really REALLY doubt it takes "years" of on-the-job experience to do whatever the job is. But then, businesses can't be bothered with training people. That's someone else'e responsibility. Make the rest of society pay for it because we want perfect employees for free.
At half price.
Still, the hyperbole is a little over the top in your post.
It's reality. I had one boss that wasn't a fucking liar. One.
Employees generally get a choice where to be employed
Sure, and since they'll be fired every six months, they'll get to exercise that choice over and over again.
so you could just sort of slide into a place and be comfortable
Yeah, I'd like to just "slide" into a place with a pile of qualifications that would blot out the sun. Sure. Anyone who wants more than a temp job wants to "slide" into a place and be "comfortable." Comfort defined as the ability to make consecutive electric bill payments on time. For some reason people think it's good for a person to lose their job every six months. It's good for people to live in constant financial stress. That's the free fucking market, right?
There's HUGE demand for good programmers these days.
As long as they're willing to work for shit in a perma-temp job with no benefits, sure.
Buy a home on those jobs? Not a chance. Be in Chapter 11 so fast it would make your head spin. Used to be able to raise a family on just about any full-time job. Now you're lucky to keep a job a year, if that, and then it's back to the want ads for another entry-level no benefits steerage-class slave assignment at temp wages working for some motherfucking rat asscrack lying cheat hairpiece phone-flipping mouth-fulla-bullshit salad-bar ordering upfuck crotch-sucking asshole.
If you have more than a trade-skill level knowledge
I knew eight programming languages. Couldn't rent a job with a coupon. Businesses never explain exactly what skills they want, because if they did, it would prove they were fucking liars.
You are so skeptical and cynical!
Skepticism is a belief. These are facts. Just about every successful anything: book, television show, whatever, was turned down repeatedly prior to being given a chance and then succeeding. Given how often publishers are wrong, it's incredible that anyone listens to them at all. Every time one of their "it'll never work" rejects is given a chance, they are PROVEN wrong.
What are other IT workers doing to prepare for potential layoffs?
W-4 employment, along with nearly all IT "skills" is obsolete. Companies and the people who manage them no longer have the huevos to employ people. They would much rather shirk their responsibilities to the communities they insist on shoving their products at. They want it all for free. They want free access to free markets with free labor and free equipment, free buildings, free services and free use of all the infrastructure necessary for them to stuff their own pockets at everyone else's expense. Oh, and if you're about to reply "taxes," save it. Businesses pay no taxes other than sales, which is actually paid by the customers.
When asked, they will screech "free markets" and "capitalism" and "being competitive in the global marketplace" which are all euphemisms for "ram tall dollars into my pockets and fuck everyone else." "Sell the seed corn," they say. "We don't need the farm after I'm done shoving cash into my pockets." Of course all the people who depend on that farm so they can eat? Well, fuck them. They should go retrain so the next asscrack lying piece of shit can have a chance to fire them.
We, as a society, allow corporations the LUXURY and PRIVILEGE of being able to operate as corporations in exchange for certain benefits to society, among them the creation of JOBS and CAREERS and the availability of products and services. Business, naturally, is trying to fuck society by keeping the quo and not exchanging the quid, precisely the same way they are unfairly refusing to honor the original deal in the copyright laws. The reason is because they want everything for free.
Business wants free labor. If they can't have that they want slaves. If they can't have that they'll just fire everyone and close the store/factory/whatever. Profits are more important than not fucking over their neighbors and customers. When people question their hiring decisions they screech "marketable skills" without ever actually explaining what those are. Yet another scam and another lie from a bunch of rat fuck lying cheat phone-flipping asscracks.
Best way to prepare for a layoff is not to buy into the scam of W-4 employment. It's a fucking scam.
Nope. They're always wrong. Always. Every single time. Took Disney TEN YEARS to make Lilo and Stitch. $200 million box office. Every single major network passed on American Idol. Every. Single. One.
For every Harry Potter that some publisher OUGHT to have snagged but decided not to, there's a slush pile a mile high of manuscripts that will never get published anywhere, because they're complete garbage.
12 publishers thought Harry Potter was complete garbage.
300 million people disagreed.
The publishers were wrong.
Like they always are.
Always.
I'm not sure if you mean the movie or cartoon.
The most recent trilogy. Disney passed claiming a "limited audience for the genre." Six billion box office. 17 Academy awards. Some limit.
iPod
Invented by an individual, approved only because Steve Jobs is smarter than the next 500 corporate CEOs combined.
MacOS X
Steve Jobs again.
Nothing cool ever gets made by a big company.
Ever.
Give up now! You cannot overcome the intertia of middle management! Twelve publishers passed on Harry Potter! Disney passed on Lord of the Rings! Skeptics always become middle managers and when they say "it'll never work" they are ALWAYS WRONG.
Once success is achieved the cynics and the skeptics sneer with open contempt at the new ideas and the people who build them. Nothing turns my stomach more than the entitlement attitude of tall dollars. The arrogance is so repulsive there are few words to describe it. Business builds walls around the "free market" and then tells everyone how fucking stupid they are for not being able to figure out how to be an "entrepreneur."
The fact is we, as a society, HATE ENTREPRENEURS and we do EVERYTHING WE CAN POSSIBLY DO to THWART and DEFEAT THEM. They're either "geeks" or "nerds" or circus acts on reality television after they got fired and laughed at on the other reality show.
It makes me fucking sick. Congratulations, gentlemen. The game industry sucks ass. You got exactly what you wanted.
Only hype gets old.
Good games are always good games.
If actively denying people jobs for your own personal gain isn't selfish, I don't know what is.
Congratulations, you just made my point and described all of business middle-management at the same time.
I hope you were exaggerating.
Nope. Absolute fact.
what have you ever done to create jobs for anyone?
Quite a bit actually considering I have no access to the capital markets whatsoever.
why does this responsibility only fall on others, according to you?
Because they control the capital.
What do you want exactly, for there to be a law prohibiting layoffs?
That's a start.
Also, I did not and do not claim as fact that unionization is what causes unionized businesses to fail at an increased rate
No but you implied it, which is a black-letter post hoc fallacy and therefore both invalid and unsound reasoning.
Otherwise please look up "quidquid Latine dictum sit altum viditur"
Nice cliche. I took three years of predicate calculus. The point stands.
This is a lie told by those who wish to portray a failing economy
So Snopes is right and everyone else is wrong. Fair enough.
(The fact that there is disagreement on how the unemployment rate is even calcluated makes my point more perfectly than any statistic ever could.)
Why on Earth would you expect them to be?
Because the unemployment rate is 5%
Hello?
The truth is that every household needs one breadwinner.
And a second paycheck for the taxes.
Leveraging collective bargaining (and the power gained from #1) to give workers an artificial influence over their employer that they would not have normally.
Like say, the artificial influence voters have over the government? And I agree we must not give employees any undue influence over their employer! Keep them face down in shit!
Bastards.
In a free, competitive market there are no economic profits and each worker is paid according to his marginal productivity
HA! You think there's such a thing as a free market? Tell you what. Start an oil company. Then come back and tell me all about the "free market."
it's an awfully selfish way to get job security
Awwww dats too bad. You know, a mortgage is an awfully selfish way for a bank to make money too. You don't really believe this shit do you?
no one is left unable to feed their family
Except the 50% of people with no full-time job, but thanks for playing.