Thats total crap. The FCC has a mandate to force all TV stations to move to HDTV. They don't have a choice. FCC wants the analog spectrum back so they can sell it to wireless companies.
"However, I'll give it to them that the landscape has changed somewhat due to the Internet."
Yes it has, but the broadcast flag with make it Worse for these companies. Heres what will happen:
You get your Super duper awesome 200 inch HDTV
Your like AWESOME DUDE, I can watch the Y Files in all its glory.
So you go to your HDTV/PVR electronic guide and you look up the time for the Y files. Then your Like DAM I'm not going to be home, I have that corporate whore rally to go to. So then your like WAIT!!! I can just record it an watch it later dude. So you click on the record this show button, but instead of your PVR going all set to record the Y Files. It goes
YOU TOTAL MORON, DID YOU THINK WE WOULD ACTUALLY LET YOU RECORD THIS SHOW!??
Then your like WTF, man this BLOWS! Being a corporate whore SUCKS!!! So then your like F them, I'll go down load it off the Internet with all the commercials removed. (Since there will ALL WAYS be people who will get around what ever they do)
So Instead of having there little Corporate whore record the show and be a good boy and watch all the commercials (No Bathroom breaks!) they Lost a viewer of their commercials. BRILLIANT!!!!!!!
The funny thing is, if they do not produce any content, they wont have any viewers, and with out viewers they wont have any one for advertisers to sell to, so in the end they wont make money.
People have been using VCRS to record shows for the past 20 years. Which has not had a bad effect on content being created (IE. The whole Movie rental, now DVD buying thing)
This has NOTHING to do with the ILLEGAL Copies of Roms or Links to them. The guy wants to trademark the name MAME so he can extort money out of people for using the MAME logo:
An email correspondence with Mr David Foley posted here:
Comments: Your use of the MAME name and MAME logo is a violation of our registered trademark (USPTO Reg # 76627578). Rather than proceed with legal action against you and your company, and getting lawyers involved, we would like to resolve this directly. Please contact me by Wednsday to discuss. David R. Foley, CEO UltraCade Technologies.
My reply to message #1:
I remember looking up the Mame logo and it had a "dead" indicator meaning it wasn't registered. I just print arcade marquees for enthusiasts' cabinets. What information do you need from me, or what are you requesting?
Regards, Brent Bilis
Message #2:
It's not dead, and we own it. If you would like to pay us a royalty on the graphics that you print, then we could probably come to some compromise.
My reply to message #2:
What type of fee structure are you considering?
Regards, Brent Bilis
Message #3:
What do you sell them for, what is your cost of goods?
My reply to message #3:
I see that your status on the Mame logo as a trademark is only pending, and has not actually been granted. The USPTO Reg # you posted below clearly states that your new application is pending - how could you state that you own it? The US Patent and Trademark Office must not condone someone stating that they own a trademark when it is in this status. It can be said with certainty that ultracade is not the proprietor of the Mame logo. I'm certain that you're familiar with Nicola Salmoria. I don't think it would be wise to discuss royalties until you have actually been granted the trademark, wouldn't you agree? I will have to contact the attorney assigned to this trademark showing details of the Mame logo existing before ultracade along with your claim of ownership before considering any sort of royalty fees.
Regards, Brent Bilis
Message #4:
I'm not looking for a royalty, but rather just an agreement that these will not be sold into commercial establishments. Our goal is to prevent companies from selling machines that are based on the MAME system, because these machines can not legally run 99% of the games on MAME
This has NOTHING to do with the ILLEGAL Copies of Roms or Links to them.
The guy wants the Trademark the Name MAME so he can extort money out of people for using the MAME logo:
An email correspondence with Mr David Foley posted here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,32 339.msg276462.html#msg276462
Message #1:
Comments: Your use of the MAME name and MAME logo is a violation of our registered trademark (USPTO Reg # 76627578). Rather than proceed with legal action against you and your company, and getting lawyers involved, we would like to resolve this directly. Please contact me by Wednsday to discuss. David R. Foley, CEO UltraCade Technologies.
My reply to message #1:
I remember looking up the Mame logo and it had a "dead" indicator
meaning it wasn't registered. I just print arcade marquees for enthusiasts'
cabinets. What information do you need from me, or what are you
requesting?
Regards,
Brent Bilis
Message #2:
It's not dead, and we own it. If you would like to pay us a royalty on the
graphics that you print, then we could probably come to some compromise.
My reply to message #2:
What type of fee structure are you considering?
Regards,
Brent Bilis
Message #3:
What do you sell them for, what is your cost of goods?
My reply to message #3:
I see that your status on the Mame logo as a trademark is only pending, and has not actually been granted. The USPTO Reg # you posted below clearly states that your new application is pending - how could you state that you own it? The US Patent and Trademark Office must not condone someone stating that they own a trademark when it is in this status. It can be said with certainty that ultracade is not the proprietor of the Mame logo. I'm certain that you're familiar with Nicola Salmoria. I don't think it would be wise to discuss royalties until you have actually been granted the trademark, wouldn't you agree? I will have to contact the attorney assigned to this trademark showing details of the Mame logo existing before ultracade along with your claim of ownership before considering any sort of royalty fees.
Regards,
Brent Bilis
Message #4:
I'm not looking for a royalty, but rather just an agreement that these will not be sold into commercial establishments. Our goal is to prevent companies from selling machines that are based on the MAME system, because these machines can not legally run 99% of the games on MAME
This has NOTHING to do with the ILLEGAL Copies of Roms or Links to them.
The guy wants the Trademark the Name MAME so he can extort money out of people for using the MAME logo:
An email correspondence with Mr David Foley posted here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,32 339.msg276462.html#msg276462
Message #1:
Comments: Your use of the MAME name and MAME logo is a violation of our registered trademark (USPTO Reg # 76627578). Rather than proceed with legal action against you and your company, and getting lawyers involved, we would like to resolve this directly. Please contact me by Wednsday to discuss. David R. Foley, CEO UltraCade Technologies.
My reply to message #1:
I remember looking up the Mame logo and it had a "dead" indicator meaning it wasn't registered. I just print arcade marquees for enthusiasts' cabinets. What information do you need from me, or what are you requesting?
Regards, Brent Bilis
Message #2:
It's not dead, and we own it. If you would like to pay us a royalty on the graphics that you print, then we could probably come to some compromise.
My reply to message #2:
What type of fee structure are you considering?
Regards, Brent Bilis
Message #3:
What do you sell them for, what is your cost of goods?
My reply to message #3:
I see that your status on the Mame logo as a trademark is only pending, and has not actually been granted. The USPTO Reg # you posted below clearly states that your new application is pending - how could you state that you own it? The US Patent and Trademark Office must not condone someone stating that they own a trademark when it is in this status. It can be said with certainty that ultracade is not the proprietor of the Mame logo. I'm certain that you're familiar with Nicola Salmoria. I don't think it would be wise to discuss royalties until you have actually been granted the trademark, wouldn't you agree? I will have to contact the attorney assigned to this trademark showing details of the Mame logo existing before ultracade along with your claim of ownership before considering any sort of royalty fees.
Regards, Brent Bilis
Message #4:
I'm not looking for a royalty, but rather just an agreement that these will not be sold into commercial establishments. Our goal is to prevent companies from selling machines that are based on the MAME system, because these machines can not legally run 99% of the games on MAME.
newsgroups are by far the Biggest distributed file servers and are cached at the ISP level.
Why not make a bittorrent client that will hook up to your local Newsgroup server and download the file?
(sure not all ISPs have all the newsgroups but the good ones have allot)
Would'nt it be great to go to each of these events and hand out FREE linux Disks to every one who enters/exits! It would be nice way to protest and give the people that go to the show a chance to try linux insted of SCO's Crap. and NO they do not own linux so stop with the $699 jokes
How would you like it if some asinine company tried to force all the users of your FREE software
to pay $699. Saying they are smoking crack is being very nice to SCO.
SuSE Supports RedHat's Open Source Initiative
There have been many unsubstantiated and inflamatory statements made recently in an attempt, we believe, primarily to slow the inevitable acceptance of Linux. Linux is a disruptive technology, troubling to many, puzzling to some, potentially freeing to all. With every disruptive technology, there will be those who fight to maintain the status quo, fight to hold on to a losing proposition.
SCO has already been halted in Germany and we applaud Red Hat's actions to help end their activities in the US -- and beyond.
We applaud their efforts to restrict the rhetoric of the SCO group -- and the FUD they are trying to instill -- and will determine quickly what actions SuSE can take to support Red Hat in their efforts.
We call on SCO to stop the fear, uncertainty and doubt and join with the rest of the IT community in building Linux into the next quantum advance in technology.
http://www.suse.com/us/company/press/press_release s/archive03/sco_redhat.html
Why is it ridiculous? I'm not asking the Airline to loan me money, I am PAYING them to move me from point A to point B. They don't need to F'ing know if I have bad credit, or if I don't live where I used to any more. They don't have the RIGHT to request such useless information. Sure I don't mind them checking my name against a suspected terrorist list, but I have a good idea that if there is a terrorist they will not use a name known by the FBI. This is just plain bullshit and does NOTHING but give a false sense of security.
Heres their press relase. Those F'in bastards. You cant hide from your lies. Once its on the net its out there for EVER!
240 West Center Street Orem, Utah 84057 801-765-4999 Fax 801-765-4481
January 23, 2002
Dear UNIX® enthusiasts, Caldera International, Inc. hereby grants a fee free license that includes the rights use, modify and distribute this named source code, including creating derived binary products created from the source code. The source code for which Caldera International, Inc. grants rights are limited to the following UNIX® Operating Systems that operate on the 16-Bit PDP-11 CPU and early versions of the 32-Bit UNIX® Operating System, with specific exclusion of UNIX® System III and UNIX® System V and successor operating systems:
32-bit 32V UNIX® 16 bit UNIX® Versions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Caldera International, Inc. makes no guarantees or commitments that any source code is available from Caldera International, Inc. The following copyright notice applies to the source code files for which this license is granted.
Copyright(C) Caldera International Inc. 2001-2002. All rights reserved.
Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
Redistributions of source code and documentation must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software must display the following acknowledgement: This product includes software developed or owned by Caldera International, Inc. Neither the name of Caldera International, Inc. nor the names of other contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission. USE OF THE SOFTWARE PROVIDED FOR UNDER THIS LICENSE BY CALDERA INTERNATIONAL, INC.AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL CALDERA INTERNATIONAL, INC. BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
Very truly yours, /signed/ Bill Broderick Bill Broderick Director, Licensing Services
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Thats total crap. The FCC has a mandate to force all TV stations to move to HDTV. They don't have a choice. FCC wants the analog spectrum back so they can sell it to wireless companies.
"However, I'll give it to them that the landscape has changed somewhat due to the Internet."
Yes it has, but the broadcast flag with make it Worse for these companies. Heres what will happen:
You get your Super duper awesome 200 inch HDTV Your like AWESOME DUDE, I can watch the Y Files in all its glory.
So you go to your HDTV/PVR electronic guide and you look up the time for the Y files. Then your Like DAM I'm not going to be home, I have that corporate whore rally to go to. So then your like WAIT!!! I can just record it an watch it later dude. So you click on the record this show button, but instead of your PVR going all set to record the Y Files. It goes YOU TOTAL MORON, DID YOU THINK WE WOULD ACTUALLY LET YOU RECORD THIS SHOW!??
Then your like WTF, man this BLOWS! Being a corporate whore SUCKS!!! So then your like F them, I'll go down load it off the Internet with all the commercials removed. (Since there will ALL WAYS be people who will get around what ever they do)
So Instead of having there little Corporate whore record the show and be a good boy and watch all the commercials (No Bathroom breaks!) they Lost a viewer of their commercials. BRILLIANT!!!!!!!
The funny thing is, if they do not produce any content, they wont have any viewers, and with out viewers they wont have any one for advertisers to sell to, so in the end they wont make money. People have been using VCRS to record shows for the past 20 years. Which has not had a bad effect on content being created (IE. The whole Movie rental, now DVD buying thing)
Readable version:
2 339.msg276462.html#msg276462
This has NOTHING to do with the ILLEGAL Copies of Roms or Links to them.
The guy wants to trademark the name MAME so he can extort money out of people for using the MAME logo:
An email correspondence with Mr David Foley posted here:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,3
Message #1:
Comments: Your use of the MAME name and MAME logo is a violation of our registered trademark (USPTO Reg # 76627578). Rather than proceed with legal action against you and your company, and getting lawyers involved, we would like to resolve this directly. Please contact me by Wednsday to discuss. David R. Foley, CEO UltraCade Technologies.
My reply to message #1:
I remember looking up the Mame logo and it had a "dead" indicator
meaning it wasn't registered. I just print arcade marquees for enthusiasts'
cabinets. What information do you need from me, or what are you
requesting?
Regards,
Brent Bilis
Message #2:
It's not dead, and we own it. If you would like to pay us a royalty on the
graphics that you print, then we could probably come to some compromise.
My reply to message #2:
What type of fee structure are you considering?
Regards,
Brent Bilis
Message #3:
What do you sell them for, what is your cost of goods?
My reply to message #3:
I see that your status on the Mame logo as a trademark is only pending, and has not actually been granted. The USPTO Reg # you posted below clearly states that your new application is pending - how could you state that you own it? The US Patent and Trademark Office must not condone someone stating that they own a trademark when it is in this status. It can be said with certainty that ultracade is not the proprietor of the Mame logo. I'm certain that you're familiar with Nicola Salmoria. I don't think it would be wise to discuss royalties until you have actually been granted the trademark, wouldn't you agree? I will have to contact the attorney assigned to this trademark showing details of the Mame logo existing before ultracade along with your claim of ownership before considering any sort of royalty fees.
Regards,
Brent Bilis
Message #4:
I'm not looking for a royalty, but rather just an agreement that these will not be sold into commercial establishments. Our goal is to prevent companies from selling machines that are based on the MAME system, because these machines can not legally run 99% of the games on MAME
This has NOTHING to do with the ILLEGAL Copies of Roms or Links to them. The guy wants the Trademark the Name MAME so he can extort money out of people for using the MAME logo: An email correspondence with Mr David Foley posted here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,32 339.msg276462.html#msg276462
Message #1:
Comments: Your use of the MAME name and MAME logo is a violation of our registered trademark (USPTO Reg # 76627578). Rather than proceed with legal action against you and your company, and getting lawyers involved, we would like to resolve this directly. Please contact me by Wednsday to discuss. David R. Foley, CEO UltraCade Technologies.
My reply to message #1:
I remember looking up the Mame logo and it had a "dead" indicator
meaning it wasn't registered. I just print arcade marquees for enthusiasts'
cabinets. What information do you need from me, or what are you
requesting?
Regards,
Brent Bilis
Message #2:
It's not dead, and we own it. If you would like to pay us a royalty on the
graphics that you print, then we could probably come to some compromise.
My reply to message #2:
What type of fee structure are you considering?
Regards,
Brent Bilis
Message #3:
What do you sell them for, what is your cost of goods?
My reply to message #3:
I see that your status on the Mame logo as a trademark is only pending, and has not actually been granted. The USPTO Reg # you posted below clearly states that your new application is pending - how could you state that you own it? The US Patent and Trademark Office must not condone someone stating that they own a trademark when it is in this status. It can be said with certainty that ultracade is not the proprietor of the Mame logo. I'm certain that you're familiar with Nicola Salmoria. I don't think it would be wise to discuss royalties until you have actually been granted the trademark, wouldn't you agree? I will have to contact the attorney assigned to this trademark showing details of the Mame logo existing before ultracade along with your claim of ownership before considering any sort of royalty fees.
Regards,
Brent Bilis
Message #4:
I'm not looking for a royalty, but rather just an agreement that these will not be sold into commercial establishments. Our goal is to prevent companies from selling machines that are based on the MAME system, because these machines can not legally run 99% of the games on MAME
This has NOTHING to do with the ILLEGAL Copies of Roms or Links to them.
2 339.msg276462.html#msg276462
The guy wants the Trademark the Name MAME so he can extort money out of people for using the MAME logo:
An email correspondence with Mr David Foley posted here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,3
Message #1:
Comments: Your use of the MAME name and MAME logo is a violation of our registered trademark (USPTO Reg # 76627578). Rather than proceed with legal action against you and your company, and getting lawyers involved, we would like to resolve this directly. Please contact me by Wednsday to discuss. David R. Foley, CEO UltraCade Technologies.
My reply to message #1:
I remember looking up the Mame logo and it had a "dead" indicator
meaning it wasn't registered. I just print arcade marquees for enthusiasts'
cabinets. What information do you need from me, or what are you
requesting?
Regards,
Brent Bilis
Message #2:
It's not dead, and we own it. If you would like to pay us a royalty on the
graphics that you print, then we could probably come to some compromise.
My reply to message #2:
What type of fee structure are you considering?
Regards,
Brent Bilis
Message #3:
What do you sell them for, what is your cost of goods?
My reply to message #3:
I see that your status on the Mame logo as a trademark is only pending, and has not actually been granted. The USPTO Reg # you posted below clearly states that your new application is pending - how could you state that you own it? The US Patent and Trademark Office must not condone someone stating that they own a trademark when it is in this status. It can be said with certainty that ultracade is not the proprietor of the Mame logo. I'm certain that you're familiar with Nicola Salmoria. I don't think it would be wise to discuss royalties until you have actually been granted the trademark, wouldn't you agree? I will have to contact the attorney assigned to this trademark showing details of the Mame logo existing before ultracade along with your claim of ownership before considering any sort of royalty fees.
Regards,
Brent Bilis
Message #4:
I'm not looking for a royalty, but rather just an agreement that these will not be sold into commercial establishments. Our goal is to prevent companies from selling machines that are based on the MAME system, because these machines can not legally run 99% of the games on MAME.
newsgroups are by far the Biggest distributed file servers and are cached at the ISP level. Why not make a bittorrent client that will hook up to your local Newsgroup server and download the file? (sure not all ISPs have all the newsgroups but the good ones have allot)
Would'nt it be great to go to each of these events and hand out FREE linux Disks to every one who enters/exits! It would be nice way to protest and give the people that go to the show a chance to try linux insted of SCO's Crap.
and NO they do not own linux so stop with the $699 jokes
They already do this in singapore. But they give you the ticket right when you get off the turnpike! DOH!
isnt McBride a member of the skull and crossbones society?
How would you like it if some asinine company tried to force all the users of your FREE software to pay $699. Saying they are smoking crack is being very nice to SCO.
"Let's see how that stock price shifts after they lose 60% of the software support for their distro..." You mean all Linux distros right? -Sco troll
The anarchist cook book is available in most libraries and shows you Exactly how to make bombs Ah crap will I go to jail for telling you this?
SuSE Supports RedHat's Open Source Initiative There have been many unsubstantiated and inflamatory statements made recently in an attempt, we believe, primarily to slow the inevitable acceptance of Linux. Linux is a disruptive technology, troubling to many, puzzling to some, potentially freeing to all. With every disruptive technology, there will be those who fight to maintain the status quo, fight to hold on to a losing proposition. SCO has already been halted in Germany and we applaud Red Hat's actions to help end their activities in the US -- and beyond. We applaud their efforts to restrict the rhetoric of the SCO group -- and the FUD they are trying to instill -- and will determine quickly what actions SuSE can take to support Red Hat in their efforts. We call on SCO to stop the fear, uncertainty and doubt and join with the rest of the IT community in building Linux into the next quantum advance in technology. http://www.suse.com/us/company/press/press_release s/archive03/sco_redhat.html
Why is it ridiculous? I'm not asking the Airline to loan me money, I am PAYING them to move me from point A to point B. They don't need to F'ing know if I have bad credit, or if I don't live where I used to any more. They don't have the RIGHT to request such useless information. Sure I don't mind them checking my name against a suspected terrorist list, but I have a good idea that if there is a terrorist they will not use a name known by the FBI. This is just plain bullshit and does NOTHING but give a false sense of security.
Let me ask you this, If the RIAA suddenly decide to say screw this we cant win, download all you want. Do you think musicians would stop making music?
I wonder if IBM can buy a license
Heres their press relase.
Those F'in bastards. You cant hide from your lies. Once its on the net its out there for EVER!
240 West Center Street
Orem, Utah 84057
801-765-4999
Fax 801-765-4481
January 23, 2002
Dear UNIX® enthusiasts,
Caldera International, Inc. hereby grants a fee free license that includes the rights use, modify and distribute this named source code, including creating derived binary products created from the source code. The source code for which Caldera International, Inc. grants rights are limited to the following UNIX® Operating Systems that operate on the 16-Bit PDP-11 CPU and early versions of the 32-Bit UNIX® Operating System, with specific exclusion of UNIX® System III and UNIX® System V and successor operating systems:
32-bit
32V UNIX®
16 bit UNIX®
Versions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Caldera International, Inc. makes no guarantees or commitments that any source code is available from Caldera International, Inc. The following copyright notice applies to the source code files for which this license is granted.
Copyright(C) Caldera International Inc. 2001-2002. All rights reserved.
Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
Redistributions of source code and documentation must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software must display the following acknowledgement:
This product includes software developed or owned by Caldera International, Inc.
Neither the name of Caldera International, Inc. nor the names of other contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission.
USE OF THE SOFTWARE PROVIDED FOR UNDER THIS LICENSE BY CALDERA INTERNATIONAL, INC.AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL CALDERA INTERNATIONAL, INC. BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
Very truly yours,
/signed/ Bill Broderick
Bill Broderick
Director, Licensing Services
* UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the US and other countries.