All of the languages listed above have no compile step in one form or another with their MVC frameworks. Most of them have very helpful mailing lists and friendly communities. Many of them have very small configurations - see the 30-line Wiki example above using Catalyst. I still don't get the hype, other than it's just bringing out people that have discovered the MVC model, which has been around for way longer than Rails.
Although I applaud Ruby at finally getting an MVC-based framework together, I don't see what all the hype is lately. MVC-based frameworks have been around for a long time, and MVC-based frameworks in other OSS languages have been around since RoR came to be as well.
Java has Struts and others, Perl has an excellent Framework called Catalyst based on another MVC framework by Simon Cozens called Maypole - see Jesse Sheidlower's article on O'Reilly for building an AJAX-based framework in 30-lines of code or less in Catalyst. PHP even has one that's been out for awhile called Fusebox that is based off of another for Cold Fusion. What is it that is so special about Ruby on Rails?
Isn't that what outsourcing the Wifi is for? That way the outsourced company can handle the liability issue, gets paid by the business, the business can offer for free, and both reap the benefits.
I'm currently rewriting an OpenSource solution to this exact problem (in Perl/Mod_Perl) called FamilyCMS. Because I'm trying to get it to a point where it isn't embarassing to post to the public, I haven't published any code yet, but you can keep tabs on it's progress at:
Send me an e-mail or reply to this post if you are interested in contributing - I need all the help I can get! I already have a working system that is just missing some features - I'm just working on a slight-redesign and a way to package it all for others to download and install. Code will be available soon!
Come on guys! Is the Mormon church the only thing that comes to mind when you think of Utah? You've got a lot to learn. Yes, I am Mormon, but I don't live in Utah. Utah is probably one of the most tech-savvy (and Linux-friendly btw) states in the nation and I think the rest of the nation could learn alot from Utah due to the likes of companies like Novell, SUSE, PowerQuest, Iomega, Overstock.com, Freeservers.com (owned by About, Inc), and many others. There is a slew of IT knowledge there, and some great jobs for IT and non-IT alike. Not only that, but you've got the scenery of the mountains, the skiing in the winter, Park City, and did I mention that the majority of Salt Lake City IS NOT Mormon?
Yes, there are some weird laws imposed by the Mormon majority of the state, but from what I know from non-members of the Mormon faith these haven't kept those people from partying, drinking, smoking, or having whatever fun you like to do. Much of Silicon Valley is now moving to Utah due to the IT-friendly nature it's government has, and has had for years now.
Living on the East Coast, I have to admit, I wish our governments out here imposed similar programs to bring in the competition with the larger telecom monopolies that leave us residents with little to no choice in what internet access we can have. They are simply slow on this side of the nation. I am happy to see what Utah is doing and hope more cities and states can impose similar programs to improve the access to technology of their own citizens.
Will Utah filter internet access? I doubt it - the ACLU is probably more powerful there than it is anywhere else in the nation first of all, which would make it almost an impossible task in the first place, and I think Utah has enough technical knowledge to know that a user can filter what they want from their own homes rather than forcing things upon it's own citizens.
Oh, and on a side note - before you start making the weird underwear jokes have you considered learning about the religion yourself rather than criticizing it?
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All of the languages listed above have no compile step in one form or another with their MVC frameworks. Most of them have very helpful mailing lists and friendly communities. Many of them have very small configurations - see the 30-line Wiki example above using Catalyst. I still don't get the hype, other than it's just bringing out people that have discovered the MVC model, which has been around for way longer than Rails.
Rails is too MVC - it is *strongly* MVC-based according to their Website. That is what the RoR hype is all about.
Although I applaud Ruby at finally getting an MVC-based framework together, I don't see what all the hype is lately. MVC-based frameworks have been around for a long time, and MVC-based frameworks in other OSS languages have been around since RoR came to be as well.
Java has Struts and others, Perl has an excellent Framework called Catalyst based on another MVC framework by Simon Cozens called Maypole - see Jesse Sheidlower's article on O'Reilly for building an AJAX-based framework in 30-lines of code or less in Catalyst. PHP even has one that's been out for awhile called Fusebox that is based off of another for Cold Fusion. What is it that is so special about Ruby on Rails?
There is a PHP Framework out called Fusebox. It's based on the ColdFusion MVC-based framework.
Isn't that what outsourcing the Wifi is for? That way the outsourced company can handle the liability issue, gets paid by the business, the business can offer for free, and both reap the benefits.
I'm currently rewriting an OpenSource solution to this exact problem (in Perl/Mod_Perl) called FamilyCMS. Because I'm trying to get it to a point where it isn't embarassing to post to the public, I haven't published any code yet, but you can keep tabs on it's progress at:
http://projects.ldsoss.org/projects/familycms
Send me an e-mail or reply to this post if you are interested in contributing - I need all the help I can get! I already have a working system that is just missing some features - I'm just working on a slight-redesign and a way to package it all for others to download and install. Code will be available soon!
Come on guys! Is the Mormon church the only thing that comes to mind when you think of Utah? You've got a lot to learn. Yes, I am Mormon, but I don't live in Utah. Utah is probably one of the most tech-savvy (and Linux-friendly btw) states in the nation and I think the rest of the nation could learn alot from Utah due to the likes of companies like Novell, SUSE, PowerQuest, Iomega, Overstock.com, Freeservers.com (owned by About, Inc), and many others. There is a slew of IT knowledge there, and some great jobs for IT and non-IT alike. Not only that, but you've got the scenery of the mountains, the skiing in the winter, Park City, and did I mention that the majority of Salt Lake City IS NOT Mormon?
Yes, there are some weird laws imposed by the Mormon majority of the state, but from what I know from non-members of the Mormon faith these haven't kept those people from partying, drinking, smoking, or having whatever fun you like to do. Much of Silicon Valley is now moving to Utah due to the IT-friendly nature it's government has, and has had for years now.
Living on the East Coast, I have to admit, I wish our governments out here imposed similar programs to bring in the competition with the larger telecom monopolies that leave us residents with little to no choice in what internet access we can have. They are simply slow on this side of the nation. I am happy to see what Utah is doing and hope more cities and states can impose similar programs to improve the access to technology of their own citizens.
Will Utah filter internet access? I doubt it - the ACLU is probably more powerful there than it is anywhere else in the nation first of all, which would make it almost an impossible task in the first place, and I think Utah has enough technical knowledge to know that a user can filter what they want from their own homes rather than forcing things upon it's own citizens.
Oh, and on a side note - before you start making the weird underwear jokes have you considered learning about the religion yourself rather than criticizing it?
You can always just move to Utah like the rest of Silicon Valley is doing these days...