Absolutely. But Ford is not backing lawsuits against GM by a third party. And doing it under cover of darkness. The Baystar deal was a front for what would (will) probably be anti-trust violations on Microsoft's part. If Microsoft wanted to support SCO, there are legal ways to do it. Not by using other companies (Baystar> as cover-ups.
The 1Mb cache chips are very expensive, however regular 512Kb 2.4 Xeons can be had for under $200. The cache is very nice, but on a desktop workstation it is probably cost prohibitive not to mention, overkill.
Everyone of your scenarios requires said company to be a monopoly. There are enough memory manufacturers (each with enough market share) so that that is not the case. Now, if they get together and do those things, that is a cartel and thus illegal.
First of all, my objective was not to incite a flamewar here. I don't see the point in flamewars.
RTFA, asshat. It's very clear what they mean to anyone with about a 3rd grade reading comprehension level.
Ok, let's look at the statement. ""We'll have at least one suit that's filed today before the end of the day," Stowell said Tuesday, with two suits more likely." I think we can agree on "We'll have at least one suit that's filed today before the end of the day,"; that part is pretty obvious. Now the last part "with two suits more likely." which could be read one of two ways:
1....with two suits [being] more likely.
2....with two suits more[,] likely.
My point was that the last part of the statement was ambiguous and that SCO is famous for using ambiguous statements to distort their meaning.
I am willing to apologize for the jackass bit - I might have been out of line. However I did RTFA and did not consider there to be only one way to read that; especially when considering the source of the original statement.
"We'll have at least one suit that's filed today before the end of the day," Stowell said Tuesday, with two suits more likely. "There is a high possibility we will be announcing two."
Now, where I learned to count (and you can correct me if I am wrong here) that would be three suits (?). But it does follow SCO logic... Look at the wookie....
They won't sue EV1. That is the only company that will validate their claims publicly. Suing M$ would be "biting the hand that feeds them" so they are out. My guess is the suit will not even be about "SCO IP" in Linux. It will be some bastardization of a contract dispute. *sigh*
Since the machines can be reprogrammed it has a lot to do with the tech.
This was indirectly my point;) If the physical security of the machine cannot be guaranteed then it doesn't matter what media the machine uses. Personally, I don't know anything about the old punch-card machines, but you are probably right. It would be easier to screw with the software of an electronic machine than the mechanics of the punch-card machines. Good point.
Who is the genius putting Windows on these things?? If ever there were a place for a custom operating system, this should be it. Normally I would even promote Linux (SELinux), but even it is way too mainstream in this application. Windows????
Georgia Tech student Peter Sahlstrom said he found 10 Diebold terminals sitting unprotected in the lobby of the school's student center Monday. Sahlstrom, 22, photographed the machines in their unlocked cases
This has zero to do with tech but will serve to give e-voting a bad name if one of these machines is compromised. Not good.
How a monthly subscribtion eventually filters down to the artists?
That is an excellent point and might I add another. It seems the public wants, no, demands portability with their music. Are you supposed to only listen to Napster's offerings on your computer or do they have some DMX/Napster thing-a-majig coming? And if so we are back to "How do we pay the artist?".
> sedimentary rocks are going to have fossils.... and fossils means fuel, which in turn means they must have WMDs.
.... and if they have WMDs, then they surely have SCO IP. I wonder if Boise & Co. will fund a trip to Mars in order to subpoena life-forms using their IP?
SCO, which owns a disputed amount of Unix intellectual property and claims some of the code was improperly used in Linux, threatened in November to sue Linux users, although it missed a self-imposed mid-February deadline.
Thus, my original statement: "I didn't see anywhere where they said it involved SCO IP in Linux." still holds water.
The SCO Group on Tuesday will launch its first lawsuit against a Linux user for alleged violations of SCO's intellectual property, SCO Chief Executive Officer Darl McBride said Monday.
I didn't see anywhere where they said it involved SCO IP in Linux. Just a Linux user misusing SCO IP. Might be a minor distinction. Might not.
Ogg. Absolutely. Cuz it works perfect on my CD/DVD/itunes/mp3 player. Seriously though, how much sound quality is lost with a digital --> analog --> digital copy? (For those that did not understand that, plug your CD/mp3 player into your soundcard and record and encode). Granted it is a bit more work, and guarenteed not to be a true 100% copy, but there is some loss in any compression anyway, right? I am wondering if it is distinguishable from a rip and encode.
Thanks for taking time to respond! I'm sure you've grown fond of the responsiveness of your dual PIII -- you hit the nail on the head there. The only single proc machines I will buy in the future will be laptops.
..with the two CPU fans, two 15krpm SCSI drives, the heavy-duty EPS12V power supply and the two IDE drives it's also rather noisy -- I am already in that boat; the only difference is 3 10K spin scsi and one IDE.
I have a buddy with a dual 2.4 Xeon and it is nice and I have had some experience with a dual MP 2.0 that was not too shabby either -- I just can't decide which is the best bang for the buck (although finding AGP enabled MP boards is *much* easier than finding Xeon boards with AGP).
Quite frankly, I don't think the 64-bit desktop is quite there yet. That was pretty much what I expected, but I was hoping;) Thanks again.
10Ghz posted this link to yahoo this morning mentioning this. The cat was already out of the bag then; SCO is just playing catchup. Being the most gullibile company ever incorporated.
-- my exact thought this morning;)
Is this console exclusivity or won't it be reaching the PC at all.
This makes me think about something. Sony and Microsoft have both worked very hard to remove mod chips from the market and nintendo went and created their own version of the DVD; all to prevent "piracy". Now, they delay the release of PC versions until 6 months or so after the console version. While I can see how this works, and it is fine for now, what are the ramifications of the next generation consoles that are going to require internet connectivity? Is this how DRM is going to be pushed on us? Please, read the post before you mod off-topic.
Seriously, how do you like it? How well does the rest of your hardware work with it? Do you run X and games? I currently have two dual-PIII machines (both running Gentoo 1.4 I might add -- and before I get flamed, I also have RedHat 9, Slack 9.1 and FreeBSD 5.2 on other machines in the house;)
I know this is slightly off-topic, but I am trying to decide between dual Xeon for a new machine or a dual Opeteron. 64 bit is enticing...
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Absolutely. But Ford is not backing lawsuits against GM by a third party. And doing it under cover of darkness. The Baystar deal was a front for what would (will) probably be anti-trust violations on Microsoft's part. If Microsoft wanted to support SCO, there are legal ways to do it. Not by using other companies (Baystar> as cover-ups.
SCO's reputation couldn't be in any worse shape, but if Microsoft really did do this, they lose all kinds of credibility.... again.
The 1Mb cache chips are very expensive, however regular 512Kb 2.4 Xeons can be had for under $200. The cache is very nice, but on a desktop workstation it is probably cost prohibitive not to mention, overkill.
I think where Stowell was misleading with his statement was that he said the deal "had a value of..." not "we recieved".
Everyone of your scenarios requires said company to be a monopoly. There are enough memory manufacturers (each with enough market share) so that that is not the case. Now, if they get together and do those things, that is a cartel and thus illegal.
Does this mean that the entire site license for EV1 was $20000? I mean, that is what, $1.00/server.....heh...heh....ha ha ha ha
I don't think SCO can use nmap. Check out this /. article.
First of all, my objective was not to incite a flamewar here. I don't see the point in flamewars.
...with two suits [being] more likely.
...with two suits more[,] likely.
RTFA, asshat. It's very clear what they mean to anyone with about a 3rd grade reading comprehension level.
Ok, let's look at the statement. ""We'll have at least one suit that's filed today before the end of the day," Stowell said Tuesday, with two suits more likely." I think we can agree on "We'll have at least one suit that's filed today before the end of the day,"; that part is pretty obvious. Now the last part "with two suits more likely." which could be read one of two ways:
1.
2.
My point was that the last part of the statement was ambiguous and that SCO is famous for using ambiguous statements to distort their meaning.
I am willing to apologize for the jackass bit - I might have been out of line. However I did RTFA and did not consider there to be only one way to read that; especially when considering the source of the original statement.
"We'll have at least one suit that's filed today before the end of the day," Stowell said Tuesday, with two suits more likely.
One today, two more likely. Sounds like three to me, jackoff.
The also said:
"We'll have at least one suit that's filed today before the end of the day," Stowell said Tuesday, with two suits more likely. "There is a high possibility we will be announcing two."
Now, where I learned to count (and you can correct me if I am wrong here) that would be three suits (?). But it does follow SCO logic... Look at the wookie....
They won't sue EV1. That is the only company that will validate their claims publicly. Suing M$ would be "biting the hand that feeds them" so they are out. My guess is the suit will not even be about "SCO IP" in Linux. It will be some bastardization of a contract dispute. *sigh*
Since the machines can be reprogrammed it has a lot to do with the tech.
;) If the physical security of the machine cannot be guaranteed then it doesn't matter what media the machine uses. Personally, I don't know anything about the old punch-card machines, but you are probably right. It would be easier to screw with the software of an electronic machine than the mechanics of the punch-card machines. Good point.
This was indirectly my point
Who is the genius putting Windows on these things?? If ever there were a place for a custom operating system, this should be it. Normally I would even promote Linux (SELinux), but even it is way too mainstream in this application. Windows????
Georgia Tech student Peter Sahlstrom said he found 10 Diebold terminals sitting unprotected in the lobby of the school's student center Monday. Sahlstrom, 22, photographed the machines in their unlocked cases
This has zero to do with tech but will serve to give e-voting a bad name if one of these machines is compromised. Not good.
How a monthly subscribtion eventually filters down to the artists?
That is an excellent point and might I add another. It seems the public wants, no, demands portability with their music. Are you supposed to only listen to Napster's offerings on your computer or do they have some DMX/Napster thing-a-majig coming? And if so we are back to "How do we pay the artist?".
just my thoughts....
> sedimentary rocks are going to have fossils. ... and fossils means fuel, which in turn means they must have WMDs.
.... and if they have WMDs, then they surely have SCO IP. I wonder if Boise & Co. will fund a trip to Mars in order to subpoena life-forms using their IP?
Man, I feel like I am talking to myself here ;)
The CNet article states:
SCO, which owns a disputed amount of Unix intellectual property and claims some of the code was improperly used in Linux, threatened in November to sue Linux users, although it missed a self-imposed mid-February deadline.
Thus, my original statement: "I didn't see anywhere where they said it involved SCO IP in Linux." still holds water.
I didn't see anywhere where they said it involved SCO IP in Linux.
Ok, found my answer, a little too quick to post I guess... The CNet article specifically mentions SCO IP in Linux, the InfoWorld article does not.
The SCO Group on Tuesday will launch its first lawsuit against a Linux user for alleged violations of SCO's intellectual property, SCO Chief Executive Officer Darl McBride said Monday.
I didn't see anywhere where they said it involved SCO IP in Linux. Just a Linux user misusing SCO IP. Might be a minor distinction. Might not.
Ogg. Absolutely. Cuz it works perfect on my CD/DVD/itunes/mp3 player. Seriously though, how much sound quality is lost with a digital --> analog --> digital copy? (For those that did not understand that, plug your CD/mp3 player into your soundcard and record and encode). Granted it is a bit more work, and guarenteed not to be a true 100% copy, but there is some loss in any compression anyway, right? I am wondering if it is distinguishable from a rip and encode.
if You or any of Your employees or consultants breach any term or condition hereof.
So, if one of EV1's employees runs Linux at home...?
Thanks for taking time to respond! I'm sure you've grown fond of the responsiveness of your dual PIII -- you hit the nail on the head there. The only single proc machines I will buy in the future will be laptops.
..with the two CPU fans, two 15krpm SCSI drives, the heavy-duty EPS12V power supply and the two IDE drives it's also rather noisy -- I am already in that boat; the only difference is 3 10K spin scsi and one IDE.
;) Thanks again.
I have a buddy with a dual 2.4 Xeon and it is nice and I have had some experience with a dual MP 2.0 that was not too shabby either -- I just can't decide which is the best bang for the buck (although finding AGP enabled MP boards is *much* easier than finding Xeon boards with AGP).
Quite frankly, I don't think the 64-bit desktop is quite there yet. That was pretty much what I expected, but I was hoping
10Ghz posted this link to yahoo this morning mentioning this. The cat was already out of the bag then; SCO is just playing catchup. Being the most gullibile company ever incorporated. -- my exact thought this morning ;)
Is this console exclusivity or won't it be reaching the PC at all.
This makes me think about something. Sony and Microsoft have both worked very hard to remove mod chips from the market and nintendo went and created their own version of the DVD; all to prevent "piracy". Now, they delay the release of PC versions until 6 months or so after the console version. While I can see how this works, and it is fine for now, what are the ramifications of the next generation consoles that are going to require internet connectivity? Is this how DRM is going to be pushed on us? Please, read the post before you mod off-topic.
I've got a dual Opteron.
;)
;)
Sweet....
Seriously, how do you like it? How well does the rest of your hardware work with it? Do you run X and games? I currently have two dual-PIII machines (both running Gentoo 1.4 I might add -- and before I get flamed, I also have RedHat 9, Slack 9.1 and FreeBSD 5.2 on other machines in the house
I know this is slightly off-topic, but I am trying to decide between dual Xeon for a new machine or a dual Opeteron. 64 bit is enticing...