Unless Mosix uses another type of data transfer than ethernet, I am pretty sure it is a Beowulf cluster. Parallel Processing over Ethernet is a Beowulf Cluster.
Just thought I would mention that a cluster of Linux computers is by definition a Beowulf Cluster. It was the term used to describe them, which is why M$ came out with thier version of doing the same thing with NT...WolfPack. Don't u just hate those guys?
Byw, if anyone wants a copy of Extreme Linux (the beowulf clustering CD) that was made a few years back, drop me a line at nicksworld@netscape.net I'll give you a place to download it, or if you send some $$$ I'll send you a CD copy of it.
I am pretty sure that they only people on the planet who would be able to actually afford this connection would have to be millionaires. And make that per year, cause it'll prolly be that much PER year. No momey for food, rent, or a car, yet I can transfer the contents of the M$ terra server in a second.
Seriously though? How the flying f*** were they able to test that speed? Someone have a couple terra servers across on each side of the country? Okay they prolly used a smaller size file, but in order to be completely accurate for speed you'd think they would have to use something a hell of alot bigger than a text file, or the contents of my 30 GIG drives for that matter. That would happen instantaneously. Never the less, like people have been saying above, anyone for a worldwide game of Quake?
"...bring us a massive multiplayer RPG based upon the Star Wars universe."
How many people are going to be fighting over who plays which character? COuld you imagine if they brought this for multiplayer over the internet? Youd have tons of people fighting over who should be Darth Maul, who would make a better Darth Maul, whether or not there can be 2 Darth Maul's.
If they were smart about this, they would create a StarWarsNet and have people log on to the net and exist as a character. Have one big StarWarsNet for everybody around the world. (Okay I know big bucks, big up keep, but you gotta admit it'd be damned popular). But it'd be also cool if you could RPG with separate servers. People create their own universes. But the the StarWarsNet idea, no matter where you go in the star wars universe, you carry everything with you; instead of starting from scratch every time you log on or creating different characters depending on the server. The possiblilities of a MULTIPLAYER RPG are endless if not very complicated. If they pull it off though, think of how easy it would be to keep adding new features to the universe. One planet suddenly becomes populated, one star destroyer suddenly gets built, while another gets destroyed; making some territories easier to live and worse in others. With single player RPG's not much changes, territory remains the same, maybe the occasional elf might come up to annoy you. But not much. But alot can chnage in this game cause everybody is doing something. Hell you could be on your way to a planet, with pratically no fuel, hopeing to land there (cause its your only hope)...then Darth Vadar comes along and blow it up (Or some other character who happens to gain control or build his own Death Star).
One thing is for sure they're going to have to find some way to keep track of everyone's individual characters or all hell is going to break loose!
I wouldn't be surprised, I remember a few attacks for 4.2 of Redhat, but those were DOS (Denial of Service) attacks. I think the main reason that Linux has been around so long without a virus has more to do with being faithful to the OS. Because it is open source, people treat it like thier own child, watchin it grown and develop over time. Would anyone be happy if a virus came out that brought down Linux? Obviously not, in fact the virus' creator would most likely be hunted down by Linux users. But you see any Windows system go down cause of a virus (or just some random fault) and what do most people do? Laugh; laugh like hell. The difference is all in how you feel about it. Windows is thiers, but Linux...that's ours.
This article has "interesting" benchmarks, using the i820 chipset. It shows that the Athlon can beat the crap out of the Intel chip in alot of the cases.
Although this is the type of novel I usually enjoy reading, in a few comments back someone mentioned that: -The character development was a little weak -The subject matter was a little to provocative for my taste -Overall a hard to read book His first comment was valid. It could have used alot more developement into the characters. But I don't believe it was a hard book to read. In fact, I took this as a children's novel. It played along side "Nineteen Eighty Four", and "The Canticle for Liebowitz", in that the world was horribly destroyed as we knew it, and the characters had to learn to live within the desolation. But because it was written from the point of view of children, it became a novel that would be more appealing to that age group.
Of all the books I had to read in HS, this one was one of the more enjoyable novels. And on a more personal note, although "Wuthering Heights" is not anywhere near the same classification of novel as "The Chrysalids" (so you really can't compare it), I can safetly say that compared to "The Chrysalids", "Wuthering Heights" really sucked a$$.
if you look at it that way it is no big deal. windows/linux linux/windows, it will get obsolote in a couple of years. Just let the students use what they are comfortable with. Many people don't need to use linux just because it is linux and it is better for the university if they stick to one standard type of software. If anyone wants anything else they can get it themselves. Linux is free remeber
ps: so you finally changed back to threaded default.. but subject line only? why can't you ppl leave things alone?
Who said that? I didn't say faster than you. I said I can type "mkdir New" a hell of alot faster than Windows can bring up that New Folder option. "ANd how fast do you type?" If it takes you longer to type "mkdir New" under console, then it takes you to get that New FOlder option up and type in a name for the folder, then my friend, you need typing lessons.
I can also keep cmd.exe (or several instances of) running all day long. Wouldn't making a directory for me from it be as fast as you doing it from your xterm? D'oh? Wrong again?
See your straying from my original comment now. I never said you could not use a console window in any windows environment.
GUI interfaces are alright, but I'll take a console over it any day
That is what I said! I prefer to use the console, over the GUI, (specifically Windows) to create folders. That was my one time, I am going to mention it now, type comment. Everything I have said is the complete truth, I didn't spread any FUD. My personal feeling towards NT are my own (but seem to have quite a few supporters who share it).
I think your personal feelings towards the particular OS you are using, which is obviously NT, is clouding your ability to think about what you are writing.
I don't believe that either, individuals are to blame. ISP's should not be held responsible, the users access should be revoked. If Napster bans users for trading pirated music, then I stand corrected that they "see no evil, hear no evil." Even then, this is like an ISP allowing spammers to get accounts, and only banning them after the ISP receives complaints. Pretty passive policy, if you ask me
See your still seeing this wrong. Napster does not charge anything for the service at the present time. You can't just sue somebody because you don't like what they are doing. As soon as Napster does start selling the product then they are going to run into problems.
ISP's charge you for a certain service, you move beyond thier guidelines (and most ISP's say now that you should not spam), then you should be terminated. ISP should not get in trouble.
I serious doubt that Napster is going to continue to provide this service pro bono, unless it's going to get revenue from ad banners or sponsorship. I wouldn't be suprised if they charge for the final release of their software. They are a business, after all.
Well it is free now, like I said. No Banners, no sponsership, no nothing. And as soon as that changes, you'll see mirror servers coming up, and different clients, so you can connect to which ever server you like. We'll have a WWMW = World Wide MP3 Web. *grin*
Um and if you're under X, how long does it take you to bring up a xterm?
What do you mean "bring up"? I always have at least one in operation. Usually 2.
As for the other side of the spectrum, spending _all_ my time in console mode, yes this can be done in NT, why anyone would want to is beyond my understanding unless you're one ofthose neo-cli-4-ever freaks
I don't spend all my time in console, but I don't waste my CPU power and memory if it can be avoided, it is just common sense. Like most of use I am stuck using Windows 95/98 at some point in time. But as for NT, I hate it, I don't want it, I don't ever want it. Bad enough I have to run Windows 4 Workgroups on my sisters DX2-66 so that Win 3.11 can connect to my proxy.
Why did I chose Windows 3.11? Cause it runs alot faster than 95/98 does, just try to bring up a new folder on that system running 95/98. Make yourself comfortable, your going to be awhile.
I do beleive I said console, this may come as a surprise to a windows man such as yourself, but the command line box that comes up is a "console window". ANd how fast do you type? I can type "mkdir New" or "md New" a hell of alot faster than it takes for that box to come up.
Granted, Napster themselves aren't the ones pirating music.
That is exaclty my point.
...if ISPs can be held responsible for allowing spammers to freely send spam off their mail server, why can't the music industry hold Napster responsible for allowing users to distrubute pirated music as far as they possible can?..
I don't believe that either, individuals are to blame. ISP's should not be held responsible, the users access should be revoked.
Are you supporting Napster just because you don't mind pirate music, thus you don't mind services that aid in distrubuting pirated music?
I don't think there is anything wrong with it because where do you draw the line? Any Audio Media type is capable of being copied and transfered, MP3 just makes it more convient. If they abolish MP3s, who's to say people won't come out with a better version of a compression program and just use WAV?
Napster is a company that wants to make a quick buck off questionably legal content
Quick buck? Its completely free. I have yet to pay anything.
This came as a surpirse to me because 6 months back I went looking for a more updated version then pre0.3. I went to filez.com (when it was still up) and found a bunch of sites (like ftp.cdrom.com) that had versions of slash code at 1.3. I even have it lying around on my HD still. Does anyone know if this is Slashdot.org code? Or someone elses similarly named code for another program? If you want a copy, email me (nicksworld@netscape.net), I'll send it to you as quickly as I can.
You should submit it as a possible upgrade in the next version. Alot of people have 1000+ MP3s, reading the ID tag of every single one is tedious. But what if you were to get a better copy of a file with the same name? I have 2 versions of the same song, one in 128 and another in 224. If I were to replace the newer one with the old, Napster would not be able to tell the difference between the old and the new one. In which case the listing would not get updated and therefore send the wrong info to other users. Or course I guess you could have a separate, "Update List" button, to update yur list of MP3s when ever you want.
Personally I had a problem with the old Beta 3 version because of its lack of 640X480 support (my proxy is running on an older monitor), it was great when Beta 4 fixed this minor problem.
There is so much going around about how illegal Napster is, when it is completely unjustified. I think we are going to see another episode of the author of Napster getting arrested like Jon Johansen(DeCSS). They can't go after all the individual people who are the problem, so lets go after someone who is completely innocent. Makes alot of sense, don't it? Just for the record, if they ever figure out how to bring Napster down. I'll be one of the first people to bring it back up.
According to the reports the probe entered a state of "safe mode", probably like a protection sequence in case there is an error or any damage. In all likely hood it is possible that it could come out of it at a preset time. A weak signal might just indicate damaged components, or maybe something they did not encounter at all? In any case, if it is the lander they could boost the gain here on earth and still make the thing useful. They might be able to figure out what went wrong.
I used to make tons of things out of duct tape with a friend of mine. I think I feel another project coming on.:) Disk boxes, toy boats...now a computer case... Hey it'd be flame retardant!
Why stop here? You could plasticize the entire case and add a virtual pet. Dumb down the OS and make it dependable on the virtual pet for navigation. Then you could market it to kids, as some hybrid of the Nano/Tama-whatever. Look out IMac, here comes IFriend.
Seriously though, alot of people ask "why did he do this?". Why don't people know the answer? It is simple...because he could, because he wanted to, because it is different! Followers ask "why?", Leaders/Dreamers/Thinkers ask "why not?"
Most of the stuff they were complaining about was the lack of GUI interface. That was their only real problem besides the fact that Linux had a little trouble handling users above 100. And I believe that aspect if being worked on now. And if you really want graphical interface, why'd they choose RedHat? Corel is more GUI oriented, the point of each distro is to be able to choose with one you want..from Debian all the way to Corel.
By far, Novell has created a great product that will be tough to beat, but I think RedHat was right up there with them. GUI interfaces are alright, but I'll take a console over it any day.
Slashdot poll: I make a new folder with: 1- Console, cause its faster 2- Right-CLick, cause I like to watch the leds blinking on my case for hours on end while Windows processes the pictures and every single thing listed in that stupid drop down list. Who came up with this idea???
Not sure if this was already posted, but my comments window is blown out of preportion by the small screen I am on.
But I believe that it would be benificial to Lucas to release the new episodes on DVD when he finishes the last 2, He could offer 6 cd collector sets, or the separate ones at the same time with out having to worry about starting up production again when they are all completed
The thing is only a few KM's long, you probably won't be able to see it with the human eye. I am surprised it has maintained the orbit. 770 years to complete is pretty unusal, it must have a lengthly orbit..and if so then wouldn't other gravitational forces interact with it?
I remember reading something about this on Slashdot a few years back. US Postal were complaining that the flow of snail mail was down, because of email and that they were taking some actions to prevent it. Looks like their descions aren't made much faster then they deliver the mail. *grin* Seriously, though, not everyone has a computer. I knwo it is strange in this day and age. But there are still alot of people who are not interested in learning how to use one of these things, let alone even purchasing one for that new email system. Maybe when the generation gets replaced, things might be different. Only time will tell.
I'm reminded of that episode of Seinfeld where Kramer discovers that the Post Office is obsolete Actually he just got miffed at the post office because they kept sending him crap through the mail, and when he tried to send it back, they sent him more. So he eventually tried to cancel his mail altogether, and then Neman nearly had a heart attack like he was losing a most valuable customer.
Slashdot Mirror
Merge an IRC client with an FTP client/server for specified files.
Kind of like Fserve, but built in with a GUI.
Unless Mosix uses another type of data transfer than ethernet, I am pretty sure it is a Beowulf cluster.
Parallel Processing over Ethernet is a Beowulf Cluster.
Just thought I would mention that a cluster of Linux computers is by definition a Beowulf Cluster. It was the term used to describe them, which is why M$ came out with thier version of doing the same thing with NT...WolfPack. Don't u just hate those guys?
Byw, if anyone wants a copy of Extreme Linux (the beowulf clustering CD) that was made a few years back, drop me a line at nicksworld@netscape.net
I'll give you a place to download it, or if you send some $$$ I'll send you a CD copy of it.
I am pretty sure that they only people on the planet who would be able to actually afford this connection would have to be millionaires. And make that per year, cause it'll prolly be that much PER year.
No momey for food, rent, or a car, yet I can transfer the contents of the M$ terra server in a second.
Seriously though? How the flying f*** were they able to test that speed? Someone have a couple terra servers across on each side of the country?
Okay they prolly used a smaller size file, but in order to be completely accurate for speed you'd think they would have to use something a hell of alot bigger than a text file, or the contents of my 30 GIG drives for that matter. That would happen instantaneously.
Never the less, like people have been saying above, anyone for a worldwide game of Quake?
"...bring us a massive multiplayer RPG based upon the Star Wars universe."
How many people are going to be fighting over who plays which character? COuld you imagine if they brought this for multiplayer over the internet? Youd have tons of people fighting over who should be Darth Maul, who would make a better Darth Maul, whether or not there can be 2 Darth Maul's.
If they were smart about this, they would create a StarWarsNet and have people log on to the net and exist as a character. Have one big StarWarsNet for everybody around the world. (Okay I know big bucks, big up keep, but you gotta admit it'd be damned popular).
But it'd be also cool if you could RPG with separate servers. People create their own universes. But the the StarWarsNet idea, no matter where you go in the star wars universe, you carry everything with you; instead of starting from scratch every time you log on or creating different characters depending on the server.
The possiblilities of a MULTIPLAYER RPG are endless if not very complicated. If they pull it off though, think of how easy it would be to keep adding new features to the universe. One planet suddenly becomes populated, one star destroyer suddenly gets built, while another gets destroyed; making some territories easier to live and worse in others.
With single player RPG's not much changes, territory remains the same, maybe the occasional elf might come up to annoy you. But not much. But alot can chnage in this game cause everybody is doing something. Hell you could be on your way to a planet, with pratically no fuel, hopeing to land there (cause its your only hope)...then Darth Vadar comes along and blow it up (Or some other character who happens to gain control or build his own Death Star).
One thing is for sure they're going to have to find some way to keep track of everyone's individual characters or all hell is going to break loose!
I wouldn't be surprised, I remember a few attacks for 4.2 of Redhat, but those were DOS (Denial of Service) attacks.
I think the main reason that Linux has been around so long without a virus has more to do with being faithful to the OS. Because it is open source, people treat it like thier own child, watchin it grown and develop over time. Would anyone be happy if a virus came out that brought down Linux? Obviously not, in fact the virus' creator would most likely be hunted down by Linux users. But you see any Windows system go down cause of a virus (or just some random fault) and what do most people do? Laugh; laugh like hell.
The difference is all in how you feel about it. Windows is thiers, but Linux...that's ours.
AnandTech Review of CuMine 1Ghz
This article has "interesting" benchmarks, using the i820 chipset. It shows that the Athlon can beat the crap out of the Intel chip in alot of the cases.
Although this is the type of novel I usually enjoy reading, in a few comments back someone mentioned that:
-The character development was a little weak
-The subject matter was a little to provocative for my taste
-Overall a hard to read book
His first comment was valid. It could have used alot more developement into the characters. But I don't believe it was a hard book to read. In fact, I took this as a children's novel. It played along side "Nineteen Eighty Four", and "The Canticle for Liebowitz", in that the world was horribly destroyed as we knew it, and the characters had to learn to live within the desolation. But because it was written from the point of view of children, it became a novel that would be more appealing to that age group.
Of all the books I had to read in HS, this one was one of the more enjoyable novels.
And on a more personal note, although "Wuthering Heights" is not anywhere near the same classification of novel as "The Chrysalids" (so you really can't compare it), I can safetly say that compared to "The Chrysalids", "Wuthering Heights" really sucked a$$.
if you look at it that way it is no big deal. windows/linux linux/windows, it will get obsolote in a couple of years. Just let the students use what they are comfortable with. Many people don't need to use linux just because it is linux and it is better for the university if they stick to one standard type of software. If anyone wants anything else they can get it themselves. Linux is free remeber
ps: so you finally changed back to threaded default.. but subject line only? why can't you ppl leave things alone?
Who said that? I didn't say faster than you. I said I can type "mkdir New" a hell of alot faster than Windows can bring up that New Folder option.
"ANd how fast do you type?"
If it takes you longer to type "mkdir New" under console, then it takes you to get that New FOlder option up and type in a name for the folder, then my friend, you need typing lessons.
I can also keep cmd.exe (or several instances of) running all day long. Wouldn't making a directory for me from it be as fast as you doing it from your xterm? D'oh? Wrong again?
See your straying from my original comment now. I never said you could not use a console window in any windows environment.
GUI interfaces are alright, but I'll take a console over it any day
That is what I said! I prefer to use the console, over the GUI, (specifically Windows) to create folders. That was my one time, I am going to mention it now, type comment.
Everything I have said is the complete truth, I didn't spread any FUD. My personal feeling towards NT are my own (but seem to have quite a few supporters who share it).
I think your personal feelings towards the particular OS you are using, which is obviously NT, is clouding your ability to think about what you are writing.
I don't believe that either, individuals are to blame. ISP's should not be held responsible, the users access should be revoked.
If Napster bans users for trading pirated music, then I stand corrected that they "see no evil, hear no evil." Even then, this is like an ISP allowing spammers to get accounts, and only banning them after the ISP receives complaints. Pretty passive policy, if you ask me
See your still seeing this wrong. Napster does not charge anything for the service at the present time. You can't just sue somebody because you don't like what they are doing. As soon as Napster does start selling the product then they are going to run into problems.
ISP's charge you for a certain service, you move beyond thier guidelines (and most ISP's say now that you should not spam), then you should be terminated. ISP should not get in trouble.
I serious doubt that Napster is going to continue to provide this service pro bono, unless it's going to get revenue from ad banners or sponsorship. I wouldn't be suprised if they charge for the final release of their software. They are a business, after all.
Well it is free now, like I said. No Banners, no sponsership, no nothing. And as soon as that changes, you'll see mirror servers coming up, and different clients, so you can connect to which ever server you like. We'll have a WWMW = World Wide MP3 Web. *grin*
Um and if you're under X, how long does it take you to bring up a xterm?
What do you mean "bring up"? I always have at least one in operation. Usually 2.
As for the other side of the spectrum, spending _all_ my time in console mode, yes this can be done in NT, why anyone would want to is beyond my understanding unless you're one ofthose neo-cli-4-ever freaks
I don't spend all my time in console, but I don't waste my CPU power and memory if it can be avoided, it is just common sense. Like most of use I am stuck using Windows 95/98 at some point in time. But as for NT, I hate it, I don't want it, I don't ever want it. Bad enough I have to run Windows 4 Workgroups on my sisters DX2-66 so that Win 3.11 can connect to my proxy.
Why did I chose Windows 3.11? Cause it runs alot faster than 95/98 does, just try to bring up a new folder on that system running 95/98. Make yourself comfortable, your going to be awhile.
I do beleive I said console, this may come as a surprise to a windows man such as yourself, but the command line box that comes up is a "console window".
ANd how fast do you type? I can type "mkdir New" or "md New" a hell of alot faster than it takes for that box to come up.
Granted, Napster themselves aren't the ones pirating music.
...if ISPs can be held responsible for allowing spammers to freely send spam off their mail server, why can't the music industry hold Napster responsible for allowing users to distrubute pirated music as far as they possible can?..
That is exaclty my point.
I don't believe that either, individuals are to blame. ISP's should not be held responsible, the users access should be revoked.
Are you supporting Napster just because you don't mind pirate music, thus you don't mind services that aid in distrubuting pirated music?
I don't think there is anything wrong with it because where do you draw the line? Any Audio Media type is capable of being copied and transfered, MP3 just makes it more convient. If they abolish MP3s, who's to say people won't come out with a better version of a compression program and just use WAV?
Napster is a company that wants to make a quick buck off questionably legal content
Quick buck? Its completely free. I have yet to pay anything.
This came as a surpirse to me because 6 months back I went looking for a more updated version then pre0.3. I went to filez.com (when it was still up) and found a bunch of sites (like ftp.cdrom.com) that had versions of slash code at 1.3. I even have it lying around on my HD still. Does anyone know if this is Slashdot.org code? Or someone elses similarly named code for another program?
If you want a copy, email me (nicksworld@netscape.net), I'll send it to you as quickly as I can.
You should submit it as a possible upgrade in the next version. Alot of people have 1000+ MP3s, reading the ID tag of every single one is tedious.
But what if you were to get a better copy of a file with the same name?
I have 2 versions of the same song, one in 128 and another in 224. If I were to replace the newer one with the old, Napster would not be able to tell the difference between the old and the new one. In which case the listing would not get updated and therefore send the wrong info to other users.
Or course I guess you could have a separate, "Update List" button, to update yur list of MP3s when ever you want.
Personally I had a problem with the old Beta 3 version because of its lack of 640X480 support (my proxy is running on an older monitor), it was great when Beta 4 fixed this minor problem.
Submit it to the authors, you never know.
There is so much going around about how illegal Napster is, when it is completely unjustified. I think we are going to see another episode of the author of Napster getting arrested like Jon Johansen(DeCSS).
They can't go after all the individual people who are the problem, so lets go after someone who is completely innocent. Makes alot of sense, don't it?
Just for the record, if they ever figure out how to bring Napster down. I'll be one of the first people to bring it back up.
According to the reports the probe entered a state of "safe mode", probably like a protection sequence in case there is an error or any damage. In all likely hood it is possible that it could come out of it at a preset time. A weak signal might just indicate damaged components, or maybe something they did not encounter at all?
In any case, if it is the lander they could boost the gain here on earth and still make the thing useful. They might be able to figure out what went wrong.
I used to make tons of things out of duct tape with a friend of mine. I think I feel another project coming on. :)
Disk boxes, toy boats...now a computer case...
Hey it'd be flame retardant!
Why stop here? You could plasticize the entire case and add a virtual pet. Dumb down the OS and make it dependable on the virtual pet for navigation. Then you could market it to kids, as some hybrid of the Nano/Tama-whatever. Look out IMac, here comes IFriend.
Seriously though, alot of people ask "why did he do this?". Why don't people know the answer? It is simple...because he could, because he wanted to, because it is different! Followers ask "why?", Leaders/Dreamers/Thinkers ask "why not?"
Most of the stuff they were complaining about was the lack of GUI interface. That was their only real problem besides the fact that Linux had a little trouble handling users above 100. And I believe that aspect if being worked on now. And if you really want graphical interface, why'd they choose RedHat? Corel is more GUI oriented, the point of each distro is to be able to choose with one you want..from Debian all the way to Corel.
By far, Novell has created a great product that will be tough to beat, but I think RedHat was right up there with them. GUI interfaces are alright, but I'll take a console over it any day.
Slashdot poll: I make a new folder with:
1- Console, cause its faster
2- Right-CLick, cause I like to watch the leds blinking on my case for hours on end while Windows processes the pictures and every single thing listed in that stupid drop down list. Who came up with this idea???
Not sure if this was already posted, but my comments window is blown out of preportion by the small screen I am on.
But I believe that it would be benificial to Lucas to release the new episodes on DVD when he finishes the last 2, He could offer 6 cd collector sets, or the separate ones at the same time with out having to worry about starting up production again when they are all completed
The thing is only a few KM's long, you probably won't be able to see it with the human eye. I am surprised it has maintained the orbit. 770 years to complete is pretty unusal, it must have a lengthly orbit..and if so then wouldn't other gravitational forces interact with it?
I remember reading something about this on Slashdot a few years back. US Postal were complaining that the flow of snail mail was down, because of email and that they were taking some actions to prevent it.
Looks like their descions aren't made much faster then they deliver the mail. *grin*
Seriously, though, not everyone has a computer. I knwo it is strange in this day and age. But there are still alot of people who are not interested in learning how to use one of these things, let alone even purchasing one for that new email system. Maybe when the generation gets replaced, things might be different. Only time will tell.
I'm reminded of that episode of Seinfeld where Kramer discovers that the Post Office is obsolete
Actually he just got miffed at the post office because they kept sending him crap through the mail, and when he tried to send it back, they sent him more. So he eventually tried to cancel his mail altogether, and then Neman nearly had a heart attack like he was losing a most valuable customer.