When something becomes illegal in your own country what do most people do? Do it anyways or do it in another country.
Host the code in Canada. We've already got a few places with the code for DeCSS uploaded to them.
...what components a modern OS needs beyond a kernel and a shell
I don't know, personally I always believed that smaller, more compact OS's, that aren't jumbled with useless crap are better. Hence *nix operating systems in general. And isn't the definition of an operating system, what just allows your system to operate? Unix does all that without alot of crap. Why add stuff you don't need?
Aw damn I forgot, I might not see the pretty aqua shade of blue on my GUI...and I was so looking forward to it.
"Hello, I'm Regis Filben and Welcome to "Who wants to be sued!!??"
[Cheesy rip off Who wants to be a millionaire theme music].
"Today's defendant is AOL, being sues my the Mp3board"
"How you doing AOL?"
"As always you have your life lines...
Phone a friend, 50/50 and get out of jail free"
Now lets play, "Who wants to be sued!!!!!"
[Cheesy rip off Who wants to be a millionaire theme music].
Welcome to "Who do we sue next?", bringing you tons of whining ninnies from around the globe because they might lose 5 cents.
Seriously though, they have started televising small claims court room dramas, they should start doing this crap. Hey it could be bigger than day time tv. No more "Young and the Restless", here comes "The Rich and the Whinny".
Actually my old 200MMX had the support aswell...but I don't even own a USB device, simply because there is nothing I am really interested in on that standard. If they start coming out with hard drives and other media devices I will definately buy them, assuming they have improved the speed for data transfer to resonable levels.
We're just not really concentrating on developing it enough. It has a "whatever" kind of attitude. Which is sad, because I am going mobile in the next couple months (no desktops, only labtops and compact perpherials) and I might have to be using USB for alot of perpherials, I just hope it improves by then.
The really weird part is that USB it is such a great standard, but in reality it is not used much where it could be useful. I think major applications include perpherials, like cameras, scanners, etc.
But they have barely touched on external hard drives and devices of that sort. I beleive Evergreen had come out with one, but that is really the only hard drive device I have seen.
I think the reason for that is the technology is changing...as soon as USB came out, another, faster technology (firewire) could already take its place.
Maybe we should concentrate on one specific technology and expand on it. That way it will become more useful.
Actually that would have been the only point of the article as to target a different audience. I really dont know why it made it to Slashdot. Esspecially under the context that it did. It was nothing special.
I think what he meant is that more businesses will realize the potential for Linux in the next year, but it will take sometime before "joe-blow" goes to thier local computer and pick up Linux and not be afraid to use it. Plus people aren't messing around with settings and customizations in the office (most aren't anyways), it is set on some generic setup and they use it as a tool. At home they try to use different fonts, install thier own software, put that picture up, post this thing on Slashdot (*grin*), etc, etc...
In Windows, it isn't hard to botch something so that your font is 4 times as big and your stuck in 16 colors, at 640X480 and for some reason you can't get on the internet, and your viewing size on your monitor has been resized to the size of a deck of cards (hey, I work in tech support, beleive me I have seen it happen).
Just think what happened when they introduced Windows 95? We just don't have some cheezy "Start Me Up" jingle to advertise Linux.
Maybe we should get one? Can anybody recommend a song?
(Just a tac-on, Don't call tech support if your 13 years old, been surfing all night and can't remove cache of your computer by yourself. It isn't my problem your mom has to use the computer in the morning.)
Except for the fact that he mentioned the new kernel update being significant, not much was said that hasn't already been known.
I look forward to seeing the new kernel because Linus says "It is painful for me to go back and use the 2.2 kernel". Either thier have been some major significant updates, or some modifications have been made to make it easier. But just the same old stuff people like us have known for months. Pretty Redundant.
Just a tack on, people really shouldn't joke about Linus being the leader of "the linux movement", I've got a friend that was ready to rise up against the "evil oppressors of Linux" when we saw him speak at the Linux World Expo in NY in Feb. Hey there was enough of us to do it!
"Slashdot had an article a long time ago about SGI creating a Linux version of OpenGL and releasing it under the X license. But I
haven't heard anything about that since. That should kick arse.:)"
I remember that aswell, wonder what happened to that?
nVidia's drivers actual did quite well on Toms Hardware, though the Windows drivers seemed to be better in almost every case.
But they are working on it...that is the important thing
Just listening to the old Geeks In Space episode 31, and according to what they were talking about in the broadcast, Linux didn't really have that good of a standard for video drivers (or something like that). It had a hard time with video, they talked about how it would be good to get a port for Quicktime, and one of the mentioned that they would like to play Quake 3 at a decent frame rate.
Has this all chanaged since then? I recently saw some benchmarks on Toms Hardware with Linux drivers...has it come that far along that we can do descent gaming now?
Was just thinking that Linux seems to be heading off into the gaming market, making it more and more popular. BSD seems to be taking a similar road, just taking longer to get there.
Maybe we are seeing the early beginnings of gradually phasing out Windows in general? Or maybe a more balanced differece between users using certain OSs (IE: Each OS holds a good portion of the market)
If this is done well, we'll definately see a market shift, just hope not too many Linux users head for BSD.:)
Actually I came across this very same problem. I have @home Rogers Cable Access. I setup a Proxy server on my box so another computer could use the network and use that connection. But it seems to be as slow as a 14.4 modem (maybe worse). Servers me right for using a Windows Proxy program.
I came across a proxy/boot floppy setup which is perfect for your old 486 as long as you have 2 NIC cards installed.
Here is the address:
http://lightening.prohosting.com/~normr/index.sh tml
Hopefully this guy doesn't suffer from the Slashdot affect after this post
I actually came across similar devices months back when the Matchbox Webserver story was done.
Though, that was an off-shoot from another website and might not have been seen by many people.
Regardless, the applications for devices such as these are clear. And those of you that have been wondering about GUIs and such, I just have to ask: Why would you want one??
The applications at the very most would require only console. Its not like you'll be playing Quake 3 on one of these things. And another person seemed to comment that it takes awhile to boot (30 minutes), that it might be using some slow process like floppy disks. Keep in mind that the install is about 900k, and the device has only flash rom (it says FLASH RAM on the webiste but I believe this to be a mistake), capable of 2MB, for storage. And a total of 8MB DRAM. When was the last time your swap space was that size?
I wouldn't be surprised if the website you view years from now might be hosted on one of these types of devices...
I know a few people are going to be looking at this comment after that title. My comment is more on the irony of choosing one free chat program over another.
Okay to clearify, MSN Messenger had the right idea when they attempted to make thier software log on to the AOL servers and chat with thier users. They just went about it the wrong way. And since MS has a reputation of of taking over every market that did not help either.
There should be a way for AOL users to talk with MSN users,,,or ICQ users..or Yahoo...or whatever, maybe if there was a central server that could recognize the type of APP being used, and have it as easy as just adding a server or a plugin/TC to give the functionality, it would be a big hit. Though I don't know anyone with the bandwidth and the programming skills to pull off such a project.
To be perfectly honest I didn't understand why AOL had such a problem with MS connecting to thier servers and allowing people to talk with other AOL users, other than the fact that they didn't ask and it had alot to do with finding a way into the servers that was almost to the point where people were calling it 'hacking'.
But I see no problem with routing messages and getting them sent to other Instant Messaging programs. Sounds like it might be a good open source project. All we need is the bandwidth.
They should recreate this and put it up as a TV commercial. Go through the whole ordeal of an MS agent trying to explain to some one why he has to buy 2 copies.
Then put the slogan at the bottom..."Just another one of the millions of reasons why your computer should be running Linux..."
Or "Linux, connecting the world, one MS crash at a time..."
The problem with High School, and even now college is that they assume those who are taking the course don't know a thing about computers. Most of the time this is nt the case at all. Especially in high school. (College tends to be a place of re-learning for those who come into different trades, I know, but that does not mean the rest of us have to suffer.)
I just pasted my first year of Computer Systems Technology, before that I took the first year of Computer Science. It was boring as hell. It was like being back in Grade 11 again, because everyone else had to catch up. They should really design 2 different programs.
Keeping that in mind. One of the things we barely touched on was actually how video is displayed, and how to manipulate it from the most basic levels. And what about the hardware aspect? (Using Parallel and Serial ports). Why not create a computer controlled robotic arm from scratch? Or some other device. Show them how computers recognize hardware from the basic levels. Get some bread boards and dip switches, make some devices the computers can recognize that they exist as a hardware component (they don't actally have to do anything however).
I think more teachers should ask the students what they would like to accomplish from the course. My electronics teacher did that this year, but he had to give everyone the same, fair chance. Originally the last project was to build a device that recognized keyboard outputs and display them on a breadboard on a few led bars or numeric display. But instead the last project was a 10 base binary counter, because most people couldn't get there timers to function correctly or kept blowing the components. I am not saying we should leave people in the dust if they don't know as much, but the course should and can be designed around the individual student, if you plan it right.
This seems like the right course of action for apple to take. Thier whole business is based on simplicity. Doing away with the keyboard just gives them point and click and print/handwrite (most likely graphity though).
Thier Notebooks are becoming more and more like palm pilots. And consequently Palm Pilots are becoming more and more like notebooks.
To be honest, for a hoax, it was a good idea. People combine computers to create Beowulfs, which they use for high end computations. Why not put a few of these in one PC and do the work of a couple of computers? Yu could build a computer just for SETI @ Home usage, and at the same time working on 3-6 different areas of space at a time.
The applications for such a device would be endless (considering it could have been a tool to use else where with other applications)
Slashdot Mirror
I was thinking the same thing
In Apollo13, they wer drinking juice (liquid) and it separated when in the Zero G environment of space. Wouldn't the same thing occur?
The ping pong ball would just shoot right up...not exactly the same thing...
When something becomes illegal in your own country what do most people do? Do it anyways or do it in another country. Host the code in Canada. We've already got a few places with the code for DeCSS uploaded to them.
...what components a modern OS needs beyond a kernel and a shell
I don't know, personally I always believed that smaller, more compact OS's, that aren't jumbled with useless crap are better. Hence *nix operating systems in general. And isn't the definition of an operating system, what just allows your system to operate? Unix does all that without alot of crap. Why add stuff you don't need?
Aw damn I forgot, I might not see the pretty aqua shade of blue on my GUI...and I was so looking forward to it.
"Hello, I'm Regis Filben and Welcome to "Who wants to be sued!!??"
[Cheesy rip off Who wants to be a millionaire theme music].
"Today's defendant is AOL, being sues my the Mp3board"
"How you doing AOL?"
"As always you have your life lines...
Phone a friend, 50/50 and get out of jail free"
Now lets play, "Who wants to be sued!!!!!"
[Cheesy rip off Who wants to be a millionaire theme music].
Welcome to "Who do we sue next?", bringing you tons of whining ninnies from around the globe because they might lose 5 cents.
Seriously though, they have started televising small claims court room dramas, they should start doing this crap. Hey it could be bigger than day time tv. No more "Young and the Restless", here comes "The Rich and the Whinny".
Actually my old 200MMX had the support aswell...but I don't even own a USB device, simply because there is nothing I am really interested in on that standard. If they start coming out with hard drives and other media devices I will definately buy them, assuming they have improved the speed for data transfer to resonable levels.
We're just not really concentrating on developing it enough. It has a "whatever" kind of attitude. Which is sad, because I am going mobile in the next couple months (no desktops, only labtops and compact perpherials) and I might have to be using USB for alot of perpherials, I just hope it improves by then.
The really weird part is that USB it is such a great standard, but in reality it is not used much where it could be useful. I think major applications include perpherials, like cameras, scanners, etc.
But they have barely touched on external hard drives and devices of that sort. I beleive Evergreen had come out with one, but that is really the only hard drive device I have seen.
I think the reason for that is the technology is changing...as soon as USB came out, another, faster technology (firewire) could already take its place.
Maybe we should concentrate on one specific technology and expand on it. That way it will become more useful.
Actually that would have been the only point of the article as to target a different audience. I really dont know why it made it to Slashdot. Esspecially under the context that it did. It was nothing special.
I think what he meant is that more businesses will realize the potential for Linux in the next year, but it will take sometime before "joe-blow" goes to thier local computer and pick up Linux and not be afraid to use it. Plus people aren't messing around with settings and customizations in the office (most aren't anyways), it is set on some generic setup and they use it as a tool. At home they try to use different fonts, install thier own software, put that picture up, post this thing on Slashdot (*grin*), etc, etc...
In Windows, it isn't hard to botch something so that your font is 4 times as big and your stuck in 16 colors, at 640X480 and for some reason you can't get on the internet, and your viewing size on your monitor has been resized to the size of a deck of cards (hey, I work in tech support, beleive me I have seen it happen).
Just think what happened when they introduced Windows 95? We just don't have some cheezy "Start Me Up" jingle to advertise Linux.
Maybe we should get one? Can anybody recommend a song?
(Just a tac-on, Don't call tech support if your 13 years old, been surfing all night and can't remove cache of your computer by yourself. It isn't my problem your mom has to use the computer in the morning.)
Except for the fact that he mentioned the new kernel update being significant, not much was said that hasn't already been known.
I look forward to seeing the new kernel because Linus says "It is painful for me to go back and use the 2.2 kernel". Either thier have been some major significant updates, or some modifications have been made to make it easier. But just the same old stuff people like us have known for months. Pretty Redundant.
Just a tack on, people really shouldn't joke about Linus being the leader of "the linux movement", I've got a friend that was ready to rise up against the "evil oppressors of Linux" when we saw him speak at the Linux World Expo in NY in Feb. Hey there was enough of us to do it!
"Slashdot had an article a long time ago about SGI creating a Linux version of OpenGL and releasing it under the X license. But I :)"
haven't heard anything about that since. That should kick arse.
I remember that aswell, wonder what happened to that?
nVidia's drivers actual did quite well on Toms Hardware, though the Windows drivers seemed to be better in almost every case.
But they are working on it...that is the important thing
Just listening to the old Geeks In Space episode 31, and according to what they were talking about in the broadcast, Linux didn't really have that good of a standard for video drivers (or something like that). It had a hard time with video, they talked about how it would be good to get a port for Quicktime, and one of the mentioned that they would like to play Quake 3 at a decent frame rate.
Has this all chanaged since then? I recently saw some benchmarks on Toms Hardware with Linux drivers...has it come that far along that we can do descent gaming now?
Was just thinking that Linux seems to be heading off into the gaming market, making it more and more popular. BSD seems to be taking a similar road, just taking longer to get there. :)
Maybe we are seeing the early beginnings of gradually phasing out Windows in general? Or maybe a more balanced differece between users using certain OSs (IE: Each OS holds a good portion of the market)
If this is done well, we'll definately see a market shift, just hope not too many Linux users head for BSD.
Actually I came across this very same problem. I have @home Rogers Cable Access. I setup a Proxy server on my box so another computer could use the network and use that connection. But it seems to be as slow as a 14.4 modem (maybe worse). Servers me right for using a Windows Proxy program.
h tml
I came across a proxy/boot floppy setup which is perfect for your old 486 as long as you have 2 NIC cards installed.
Here is the address:
http://lightening.prohosting.com/~normr/index.s
Hopefully this guy doesn't suffer from the Slashdot affect after this post
Good Luck!
yeah that is what I assumed, but there is no documentation stating otherwise that I could find.
I actually came across similar devices months back when the Matchbox Webserver story was done.
Though, that was an off-shoot from another website and might not have been seen by many people.
Regardless, the applications for devices such as these are clear. And those of you that have been wondering about GUIs and such, I just have to ask: Why would you want one??
The applications at the very most would require only console. Its not like you'll be playing Quake 3 on one of these things. And another person seemed to comment that it takes awhile to boot (30 minutes), that it might be using some slow process like floppy disks. Keep in mind that the install is about 900k, and the device has only flash rom (it says FLASH RAM on the webiste but I believe this to be a mistake), capable of 2MB, for storage. And a total of 8MB DRAM. When was the last time your swap space was that size?
I wouldn't be surprised if the website you view years from now might be hosted on one of these types of devices...
I know a few people are going to be looking at this comment after that title. My comment is more on the irony of choosing one free chat program over another.
Okay to clearify, MSN Messenger had the right idea when they attempted to make thier software log on to the AOL servers and chat with thier users. They just went about it the wrong way. And since MS has a reputation of of taking over every market that did not help either.
There should be a way for AOL users to talk with MSN users,,,or ICQ users..or Yahoo...or whatever, maybe if there was a central server that could recognize the type of APP being used, and have it as easy as just adding a server or a plugin/TC to give the functionality, it would be a big hit. Though I don't know anyone with the bandwidth and the programming skills to pull off such a project.
To be perfectly honest I didn't understand why AOL had such a problem with MS connecting to thier servers and allowing people to talk with other AOL users, other than the fact that they didn't ask and it had alot to do with finding a way into the servers that was almost to the point where people were calling it 'hacking'.
But I see no problem with routing messages and getting them sent to other Instant Messaging programs. Sounds like it might be a good open source project. All we need is the bandwidth.
They should recreate this and put it up as a TV commercial. Go through the whole ordeal of an MS agent trying to explain to some one why he has to buy 2 copies.
Then put the slogan at the bottom..."Just another one of the millions of reasons why your computer should be running Linux..."
Or "Linux, connecting the world, one MS crash at a time..."
The problem with High School, and even now college is that they assume those who are taking the course don't know a thing about computers. Most of the time this is nt the case at all. Especially in high school.
(College tends to be a place of re-learning for those who come into different trades, I know, but that does not mean the rest of us have to suffer.)
I just pasted my first year of Computer Systems Technology, before that I took the first year of Computer Science. It was boring as hell. It was like being back in Grade 11 again, because everyone else had to catch up. They should really design 2 different programs.
Keeping that in mind. One of the things we barely touched on was actually how video is displayed, and how to manipulate it from the most basic levels.
And what about the hardware aspect? (Using Parallel and Serial ports). Why not create a computer controlled robotic arm from scratch? Or some other device.
Show them how computers recognize hardware from the basic levels. Get some bread boards and dip switches, make some devices the computers can recognize that they exist as a hardware component (they don't actally have to do anything however).
I think more teachers should ask the students what they would like to accomplish from the course. My electronics teacher did that this year, but he had to give everyone the same, fair chance. Originally the last project was to build a device that recognized keyboard outputs and display them on a breadboard on a few led bars or numeric display. But instead the last project was a 10 base binary counter, because most people couldn't get there timers to function correctly or kept blowing the components.
I am not saying we should leave people in the dust if they don't know as much, but the course should and can be designed around the individual student, if you plan it right.
This seems like the right course of action for apple to take. Thier whole business is based on simplicity. Doing away with the keyboard just gives them point and click and print/handwrite (most likely graphity though).
Thier Notebooks are becoming more and more like palm pilots. And consequently Palm Pilots are becoming more and more like notebooks.
I tired to run the text - only version on Windows 98 and it just stoped working when it calculated some value...didn't even begin scanning the files.
To be honest, for a hoax, it was a good idea. People combine computers to create Beowulfs, which they use for high end computations. Why not put a few of these in one PC and do the work of a couple of computers? Yu could build a computer just for SETI @ Home usage, and at the same time working on 3-6 different areas of space at a time.
The applications for such a device would be endless (considering it could have been a tool to use else where with other applications)