I don't really know that it's a weakness. Having pretty candy might attract some new people to linux, but I for one have never been found thinking "gee, if only I had some shiny translucent three-dimensional, shadowed, foldable, fancy interface".
Full of ourselves? How am I full of myself? I was simply stating comments I've heard from countless people in and from other countries and how they felt about America until recent years. In fact, I believe there is a documentary somewhere that interviews a lot of people around the world as well and the common view was that people didn't so much hate America as feel disappointed by seeing how it has deteriorated from the place they grew up admiring.
If you actually had the reading comprehension of an orangutan, you'd have understood that what I said was that individuals (governments aside) generally held America in some degree of respect and awe not too long ago. They no longer do. At best, they pity us and what we've become. We failed miserably. And worse, there is a large part of our population that doesn't even care or acknowledge that we have had any failings. This "love it or leave it" crowd that completely disregards the opinions and impressions of the rest of the world does us no service.
You did an admirable job listing a handful of political differences and problems between a number of countries involving America. Now, get off your fucking pedestal for just a second and have speaks with people. A lot of us in the world are rational enough that we see the people of a country as somewhat distinct from their governments.
By the way, what keeps you from being quite such a target of hate for the world is the fact that you are not the world superpower.
But, hey, you know - great just misinterpreting and twisting what I had to say. At least you're good for something.
They want me to pay about the same price of a full retail CD that I could rip to whatever bitrate I like without DRM, but for a lower quality digital version in a proprietary format? Boy, I can't wait. Sign me up.
If they're charging for the bitrate and lack of DRM, then they should start selling physical CDs for about $85.
This is nothing more than punching you in the testicles and then charging you to make me stop. Or, at least, to punch softer.
Oh, trust me. I do! I put it into places that have always provided me with a variety of non-DRM content before this. And usually for far less. I'll listen to recordings of grade school kids banging on their desks with pencils before I'll pay more for DRM-free content.
It's a win? Paying more money to get what you should get in the first place?
So a DRM-free downloaded album is now going to cost, what - $13 or more? Is that 30 cents really going to offset the supposed rampant copying and sharing that a DRM-free copy would allow or cause? I doubt it.
What's next, a 30 percent increase in your cable bill if you want to be allowed to Tivo content or to allow you to record it with a DVR that is not of the Tivo brand?
I wouldn't pay a dollar for a downloaded copy of a song. I'm sure as hell not going to pay a dollar thirty. For that price - or less - I could buy a physical CD and rip it.
Despite whatever misguided beliefs you may have, America has always been highly respected and loved by people all over the world. Whether you were from France, Germany, Japan or anywhere else, people looked toward America as an example for the rest of the world. A place people wanted to be. A country of hope for those who had none and a people that people loved. Perhaps not perfect, but still a place that gave hope to even those who loved their own countries.
This was illustrated by the response immediately after 9/11. Remember "We All Today are USA"? Remember people in every city on the planet marching, crying, holding vigils and saying they love America and that the attacks broke their hearts?
For a moment in time, we held the sympathy of a world that looked to us. And then we blew it. Some people hate America, including some Americans. For others around the world (and in America), it's not so much hate as disappointment. I have talked to countless people from every walk of life around the planet and one thing is consistent. They love Americans and they loved the America that gave them hope. That stood for ideals, cared about peace and freedom and being both an example to and a beacon for other free civilizations world-wide. Just because they criticize the country doesn't mean they hate it. It means they are frustrated with it. They are frustrated that the one great example of everything that appealed to them has turned on its head.
Rather than playing the Fox News "they hate our freedom and our baby jebus!" card that is so easy for the ignorant, self-involved idiots to play, try considering that just maybe we lost the sympathy, affection and respect of the entire world on our own watch and of our own accord. If we want to be able to travel the globe and enjoy the respect and fascination people once had for an American abroad, we need to reconsider our actions past and our decisions future. You can't lumber around the playground like a clumsy bully and simultaneously, shouting that you don't care what anyone else thinks and treating everyone else in the world community as a lesser human being by their nationality and simultaneously expect to be seen as a respectable victim standing up for themselves.
Part of being a mature country that provides world-wide leadership means giving great consideration to actions yet taken and honest introspective review of those already performed. Let's do a little less flag-waving and "put a boot in their ass" Toby Kieth bullshit and a little more growing up. I, for one, resent that those much older than myself have stolen the respect and admiration that being an American used to deserve and that my generation will probably not be alive by the time we manage to regain that respect.
. One possibility that's been thrown out there is that Antigua may turn itself into a haven for free music and software and set up some site like allofmp3.com. Somebody wants to be considered part of the Axis of Evil and treated as a terrorist nation!
It's hard to imagine people are always confusing linux and OSS with communist philosophies when we're naming our releases Beijing. Why just just start naming them Trotsky, Stalin, marx and Lennin?
Right, but the interior-ramp method isn't exactly solving the secret of the pyramid. It's a minor (but important) tweak on a pre-existing theory. The article (at least the title in the article that is linked to) is rather hyperbolic. And while it may present a realistic method of doing it, until we find some blue-print, manual or a home video from back in the day, nobody can ever claim to have "solved" it, unless they're just looking for a lot of attention.
Much older than that. There was a Nova "This Old Pyramid" special about ten or fifteen years ago that talked bout the spiral ramp pyramid building method. There have been reasonable explanations of why this was probably not the method used for just as many years, too.
I have found that the best way to conserve power and reduce your electricity bill is to buy a PS3 and then let that stupid folding@home app run full time so you can do a bunch of work for some corporations via Stanford and pay for the electricity it consumes as well. Nothing says cost savings like running a power-hungry heater like the PS3 full time! And even better, make sure to keep your television on so you can watch the fancy folding screen saver!
I would enjoy a good April Fool's prank, but it needs to be one single clever and subtle prank. April 1st is a terrible day, because every single site gets in on it and they all spam out five, ten or even twenty "pranks" in a row. Really takes the fun out of the day.
I think the intarwebs have confused an april fool's prank with parody. A "bill gates patents binary" story is a parody. It isn't an April Fool's joke. And each year, one thinks "okay, it can't get any worse" and then Slashdot (worst of them all) sinks to even lower lows the next calendar.
Yeah, I won't be back for about 48 hours. Slashdot typically suffers from a severe case of mental retardation on April first. More than the usual Slashtardation, even. It would be interesting if they at least tried to just slip one or two believable items in and worked them in a humorous way, but it just turns into one large guffaw. It's like when a four year old kid learns the "pull my finger and fart" thing and then does it every two minutes for an entire week straight.
The ignorant among us have the same voting weight as the rest of us do. When they make up a huge percent of our society, that means our entire future - including funding sciences and prohibiting sciences - are largely on the shoulders of people who believe lesbians caused 9/11 and Katrina, that people can rise from the dead, that someone can be pregnant without insemination, that burning bushes talk to them and that you're going to hell if you don't obey your mom and dad or wear mixed textiles yet find theories with significant scientific evidence - like evolution - to be impossibly absurd and ridiculous.
They can think whatever they want, but when it comes down to it I don't want society eventually dictating that my only option to cure cancer is for me to pray super hard for it and that if I die anyway, it's because I'm a non-believing heathen who deserved to die.
Following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Robertson appeared together with Jerry Falwell on the "700 Club" and declared that the American Civil Liberties Union along with feminists, gays and abortions were responsible for the attacks because their lack of religion had caused God's wrath:
FALWELL: What we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact--if, in fact--God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.
ROBERTSON: Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they can do to the major population.
FALWELL: The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.
ROBERTSON: Well, yes.
FALWELL: And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way--all of them who have tried to secularize America--I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."
ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And, the top people, of course, is the court system. [4]
I think an important point to note is that a lot of people are more concerned with accepting and dismissing facts and evidence and theories based on whether these things fit their world view when they should instead be shifting their world view to fit in with facts and evidence. My world view may involve a flat earth, but when it's proven to be round, I should probably alter my worldview.
only six percent said they don't believe in a God at all. Just 3 percent of the public self-identifies as atheist, suggesting that the term may carry some stigma. Still, the poll suggests that the public's tolerance of this small minority has increased in recent years.
This is bullshit. There is no tolerance of atheists.
only six percent said they don't believe in a God at all. Just 3 percent of the public self-identifies as atheist, suggesting that the term may carry some stigma. Still, the poll suggests that the public's tolerance of this small minority has increased in recent years.
This is bullshit. There is no tolerance of atheists.
Based on a telephone survey of more than 2,000 households and in-depth interviews with more than 140 people, researchers found that Americans rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, homosexuals and other groups as "sharing their vision of American society." Americans are also least willing to let their children marry atheists. Is that tolerance? The average american doesn't even want you to marry their children if you are an atheist or agnostic. And as much as it always seems like there is nothing religious people hate more than gay people, they actually hate atheists even more!
Oh, yes. Such tolerance! And yet these are the same assholes that are always going around telling us how Christianity is a minority in this country today and how religious people are persecuted.
I am not an atheist. I am an agnostic. But you can bet your damn ass that I am hesitant to admit that to anyone who asks me in person unless I have a really good idea of how that person will react. Otherwise - at the best - I might find myself being locked into a two hour discussion trying to explain to the ignorant bastards why I can be agnostic and still not go on a murderous rampage - because in the mind of religious people, the only thing keeping them from slaughtering people wholesale is that their god might not like it.
So.. tolerance toward atheists and agnostics? Bullshit.
Based on a telephone survey of more than 2,000 households and in-depth interviews with more than 140 people, researchers found that Americans rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, homosexuals and other groups as "sharing their vision of American society." Americans are also least willing to let their children marry atheists.
Is that tolerance? The average American doesn't even want you to marry their children if you are an atheist or agnostic. And as much as it always seems like there is nothing religious people hate more than gay people, they actually hate atheists even more!
Oh, yes. Such tolerance! And yet these are the same assholes that are always going around telling us how Christianity is a minority in this country today and how religious people are persecuted.
I am not an atheist. I am an agnostic. But you can bet your damn ass that I am hesitant to admit that to anyone who asks me in person unless I have a really good idea of how that person will react. Otherwise - at the best - I might find myself being locked into a two hour discussion trying to explain to the ignorant bastards why I can be agnostic and still not go on a murderous rampage - because in the mind of religious people, the only thing keeping them from slaughtering people wholesale is that their god might not like it. Yet atheists and agnostics are the ones who have no morality, are responsible for all the brutality the religious people and their delinquent children commit and are selfish. What the fuck?!
So.. tolerance toward atheists and agnostics? Bullshit.
Sadly, their ignorance affects the rest of us. They get to vote. They make laws that affect us. They help decide the direction of the entire nation. If the number grows much larger, it's a small step from what we have now to a world in which we have no free speech and science funding is cut in favor of building more churches and religious statues in public places (remember, something like 50% of highschool students think the first amendment goes too far!).
If these idiots didn't have a serious amount of weight behind them, this wouldn't matter. But that means only one or two percent of the other side have to be swayed into voting along the lines of these idiots and you can see how things like stem cell research, space exploration and biological discoveries will be limited by sheer ignorance.
Also, I find these statistics to be somewhat questionable because only last week I read that 18% of people 18 to 30 classify themselves as atheists (as opposed to the current 2% of the entire population that considers themselves atheists).
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There's no hydrogen farmer lobby. There is, however, a corn and sugar lobby.
Thankfully, none of this matters. Senator Inhofe's staff today stated that carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. So we can all relax!
The guy who played Cousin Oliver (Robbie Rist) on the Brady Bunch is also the guy who played Michaelangelo in the original TMNT movies.
I hate nature as much as the next guy, but . . . camping? Really?! What's the point, if you're going to sit around watching satellite television?
I don't really know that it's a weakness. Having pretty candy might attract some new people to linux, but I for one have never been found thinking "gee, if only I had some shiny translucent three-dimensional, shadowed, foldable, fancy interface".
Or web 2.0.
Or AJAX.
Really, let it be the death of both. Too bad it's a couple years too late.
Full of ourselves? How am I full of myself? I was simply stating comments I've heard from countless people in and from other countries and how they felt about America until recent years. In fact, I believe there is a documentary somewhere that interviews a lot of people around the world as well and the common view was that people didn't so much hate America as feel disappointed by seeing how it has deteriorated from the place they grew up admiring.
If you actually had the reading comprehension of an orangutan, you'd have understood that what I said was that individuals (governments aside) generally held America in some degree of respect and awe not too long ago. They no longer do. At best, they pity us and what we've become. We failed miserably. And worse, there is a large part of our population that doesn't even care or acknowledge that we have had any failings. This "love it or leave it" crowd that completely disregards the opinions and impressions of the rest of the world does us no service.
You did an admirable job listing a handful of political differences and problems between a number of countries involving America. Now, get off your fucking pedestal for just a second and have speaks with people. A lot of us in the world are rational enough that we see the people of a country as somewhat distinct from their governments.
By the way, what keeps you from being quite such a target of hate for the world is the fact that you are not the world superpower.
But, hey, you know - great just misinterpreting and twisting what I had to say. At least you're good for something.
I swear, I will set fire to the first bastard to reply to this article with "dur dur... I'm going to patent blank"!
They want me to pay about the same price of a full retail CD that I could rip to whatever bitrate I like without DRM, but for a lower quality digital version in a proprietary format? Boy, I can't wait. Sign me up.
If they're charging for the bitrate and lack of DRM, then they should start selling physical CDs for about $85.
This is nothing more than punching you in the testicles and then charging you to make me stop. Or, at least, to punch softer.
Oh, trust me. I do! I put it into places that have always provided me with a variety of non-DRM content before this. And usually for far less. I'll listen to recordings of grade school kids banging on their desks with pencils before I'll pay more for DRM-free content.
It's a win? Paying more money to get what you should get in the first place?
So a DRM-free downloaded album is now going to cost, what - $13 or more? Is that 30 cents really going to offset the supposed rampant copying and sharing that a DRM-free copy would allow or cause? I doubt it.
What's next, a 30 percent increase in your cable bill if you want to be allowed to Tivo content or to allow you to record it with a DVR that is not of the Tivo brand?
I wouldn't pay a dollar for a downloaded copy of a song. I'm sure as hell not going to pay a dollar thirty. For that price - or less - I could buy a physical CD and rip it.
Oh, boo hoo.
Despite whatever misguided beliefs you may have, America has always been highly respected and loved by people all over the world. Whether you were from France, Germany, Japan or anywhere else, people looked toward America as an example for the rest of the world. A place people wanted to be. A country of hope for those who had none and a people that people loved. Perhaps not perfect, but still a place that gave hope to even those who loved their own countries.
This was illustrated by the response immediately after 9/11. Remember "We All Today are USA"? Remember people in every city on the planet marching, crying, holding vigils and saying they love America and that the attacks broke their hearts?
For a moment in time, we held the sympathy of a world that looked to us. And then we blew it. Some people hate America, including some Americans. For others around the world (and in America), it's not so much hate as disappointment. I have talked to countless people from every walk of life around the planet and one thing is consistent. They love Americans and they loved the America that gave them hope. That stood for ideals, cared about peace and freedom and being both an example to and a beacon for other free civilizations world-wide. Just because they criticize the country doesn't mean they hate it. It means they are frustrated with it. They are frustrated that the one great example of everything that appealed to them has turned on its head.
Rather than playing the Fox News "they hate our freedom and our baby jebus!" card that is so easy for the ignorant, self-involved idiots to play, try considering that just maybe we lost the sympathy, affection and respect of the entire world on our own watch and of our own accord. If we want to be able to travel the globe and enjoy the respect and fascination people once had for an American abroad, we need to reconsider our actions past and our decisions future. You can't lumber around the playground like a clumsy bully and simultaneously, shouting that you don't care what anyone else thinks and treating everyone else in the world community as a lesser human being by their nationality and simultaneously expect to be seen as a respectable victim standing up for themselves.
Part of being a mature country that provides world-wide leadership means giving great consideration to actions yet taken and honest introspective review of those already performed. Let's do a little less flag-waving and "put a boot in their ass" Toby Kieth bullshit and a little more growing up. I, for one, resent that those much older than myself have stolen the respect and admiration that being an American used to deserve and that my generation will probably not be alive by the time we manage to regain that respect.
Based on Ubuntu? You mean based on Debian, right? Saying things are based on Ubuntu seems a little bit like saying that Vanilla Ice invented rap.
It's hard to imagine people are always confusing linux and OSS with communist philosophies when we're naming our releases Beijing. Why just just start naming them Trotsky, Stalin, marx and Lennin?
Right, but the interior-ramp method isn't exactly solving the secret of the pyramid. It's a minor (but important) tweak on a pre-existing theory. The article (at least the title in the article that is linked to) is rather hyperbolic. And while it may present a realistic method of doing it, until we find some blue-print, manual or a home video from back in the day, nobody can ever claim to have "solved" it, unless they're just looking for a lot of attention.
Much older than that. There was a Nova "This Old Pyramid" special about ten or fifteen years ago that talked bout the spiral ramp pyramid building method. There have been reasonable explanations of why this was probably not the method used for just as many years, too.
I have found that the best way to conserve power and reduce your electricity bill is to buy a PS3 and then let that stupid folding@home app run full time so you can do a bunch of work for some corporations via Stanford and pay for the electricity it consumes as well. Nothing says cost savings like running a power-hungry heater like the PS3 full time! And even better, make sure to keep your television on so you can watch the fancy folding screen saver!
I would enjoy a good April Fool's prank, but it needs to be one single clever and subtle prank. April 1st is a terrible day, because every single site gets in on it and they all spam out five, ten or even twenty "pranks" in a row. Really takes the fun out of the day.
I think the intarwebs have confused an april fool's prank with parody. A "bill gates patents binary" story is a parody. It isn't an April Fool's joke. And each year, one thinks "okay, it can't get any worse" and then Slashdot (worst of them all) sinks to even lower lows the next calendar.
No, some of us work in the office on weekends. :)
Yeah, I won't be back for about 48 hours. Slashdot typically suffers from a severe case of mental retardation on April first. More than the usual Slashtardation, even. It would be interesting if they at least tried to just slip one or two believable items in and worked them in a humorous way, but it just turns into one large guffaw. It's like when a four year old kid learns the "pull my finger and fart" thing and then does it every two minutes for an entire week straight.
The ignorant among us have the same voting weight as the rest of us do. When they make up a huge percent of our society, that means our entire future - including funding sciences and prohibiting sciences - are largely on the shoulders of people who believe lesbians caused 9/11 and Katrina, that people can rise from the dead, that someone can be pregnant without insemination, that burning bushes talk to them and that you're going to hell if you don't obey your mom and dad or wear mixed textiles yet find theories with significant scientific evidence - like evolution - to be impossibly absurd and ridiculous.
They can think whatever they want, but when it comes down to it I don't want society eventually dictating that my only option to cure cancer is for me to pray super hard for it and that if I die anyway, it's because I'm a non-believing heathen who deserved to die.
Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell blame lesbians, gays, abortionists and the ACLU for WTC attacks. He has also over the years blamed things like Katrina on them.
Following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Robertson appeared together with Jerry Falwell on the "700 Club" and declared that the American Civil Liberties Union along with feminists, gays and abortions were responsible for the attacks because their lack of religion had caused God's wrath:
FALWELL: What we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact--if, in fact--God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.
ROBERTSON: Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they can do to the major population.
FALWELL: The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.
ROBERTSON: Well, yes.
FALWELL: And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way--all of them who have tried to secularize America--I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."
ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur, and the problem is we have adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government. And so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do. And, the top people, of course, is the court system. [4]
I think an important point to note is that a lot of people are more concerned with accepting and dismissing facts and evidence and theories based on whether these things fit their world view when they should instead be shifting their world view to fit in with facts and evidence. My world view may involve a flat earth, but when it's proven to be round, I should probably alter my worldview.
only six percent said they don't believe in a God at all. Just 3 percent of the public self-identifies as atheist, suggesting that the term may carry some stigma. Still, the poll suggests that the public's tolerance of this small minority has increased in recent years.
This is bullshit. There is no tolerance of atheists.
From another article that made the rounds only last year:
From the article.
only six percent said they don't believe in a God at all. Just 3 percent of the public self-identifies as atheist, suggesting that the term may carry some stigma. Still, the poll suggests that the public's tolerance of this small minority has increased in recent years.
This is bullshit. There is no tolerance of atheists.
From an article that made the rounds only last year:
Based on a telephone survey of more than 2,000 households and in-depth interviews with more than 140 people, researchers found that Americans rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, homosexuals and other groups as "sharing their vision of American society." Americans are also least willing to let their children marry atheists. Is that tolerance? The average american doesn't even want you to marry their children if you are an atheist or agnostic. And as much as it always seems like there is nothing religious people hate more than gay people, they actually hate atheists even more!
Oh, yes. Such tolerance! And yet these are the same assholes that are always going around telling us how Christianity is a minority in this country today and how religious people are persecuted.
I am not an atheist. I am an agnostic. But you can bet your damn ass that I am hesitant to admit that to anyone who asks me in person unless I have a really good idea of how that person will react. Otherwise - at the best - I might find myself being locked into a two hour discussion trying to explain to the ignorant bastards why I can be agnostic and still not go on a murderous rampage - because in the mind of religious people, the only thing keeping them from slaughtering people wholesale is that their god might not like it.
So.. tolerance toward atheists and agnostics? Bullshit.
Based on a telephone survey of more than 2,000 households and in-depth interviews with more than 140 people, researchers found that Americans rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, homosexuals and other groups as "sharing their vision of American society." Americans are also least willing to let their children marry atheists.
Is that tolerance? The average American doesn't even want you to marry their children if you are an atheist or agnostic. And as much as it always seems like there is nothing religious people hate more than gay people, they actually hate atheists even more!
Oh, yes. Such tolerance! And yet these are the same assholes that are always going around telling us how Christianity is a minority in this country today and how religious people are persecuted.
I am not an atheist. I am an agnostic. But you can bet your damn ass that I am hesitant to admit that to anyone who asks me in person unless I have a really good idea of how that person will react. Otherwise - at the best - I might find myself being locked into a two hour discussion trying to explain to the ignorant bastards why I can be agnostic and still not go on a murderous rampage - because in the mind of religious people, the only thing keeping them from slaughtering people wholesale is that their god might not like it. Yet atheists and agnostics are the ones who have no morality, are responsible for all the brutality the religious people and their delinquent children commit and are selfish. What the fuck?!
So.. tolerance toward atheists and agnostics? Bullshit.
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Sadly, their ignorance affects the rest of us. They get to vote. They make laws that affect us. They help decide the direction of the entire nation. If the number grows much larger, it's a small step from what we have now to a world in which we have no free speech and science funding is cut in favor of building more churches and religious statues in public places (remember, something like 50% of highschool students think the first amendment goes too far!).
If these idiots didn't have a serious amount of weight behind them, this wouldn't matter. But that means only one or two percent of the other side have to be swayed into voting along the lines of these idiots and you can see how things like stem cell research, space exploration and biological discoveries will be limited by sheer ignorance.
Also, I find these statistics to be somewhat questionable because only last week I read that 18% of people 18 to 30 classify themselves as atheists (as opposed to the current 2% of the entire population that considers themselves atheists).