Yeah, I'm Japanese (born and raised) and my parents taught me to use those beveled wooden sticks to clean my ears. I don't know whether it's safe, but it feels really good. Almost as good as sex.
Of course, my people are also known for their other weirdnesses, such as a religion that believes the spirits of our dead ancestors haunt the streets picking up the shit of the living and eating it. I am not kidding.
"And those same people would get equally as annoyed and run as $HIGH_PRIVILEGE_USER on any multiuser OS."
That's just not true. You've probably heard this before, but you should try using Mac OS X sometime. It's not perfect, but its security model is a damn sight better (and more convenient, too!) than whatever you're envisioning.
"Right on the heels... comes the... release" isn't passive voice either. I'd say it's a wash whether the inverted sentence structure or the regular variety is better--both have their pros and cons. Damn that copyediting apprenticeship.:-P
Censorship is wrong in our culture on this side of the pond, yes (for a number of reasons). But it's a mistake to assume censorship is wrong, or even should necessarily be wrong, in other cultures, with their diverse origins, histories and social mores.
For example. I personally wouldn't want to live in Singapore, but the Singaporeans I know feel very strongly that their government maintains the right tradeoff between liberty on the one hand, and social order and cohesiveness on the other. Who among us--those of us who don't live in Singapore--is fit to criticize that?
Just a couple thoughts: How can they be pressing issues if no one cares about them? Who are you to say that certain things "hardly matter" when they're obviously a big deal to many, many people? Why ought people to be concerned about the issues you consider important (their privacy, presumably, to judge from this thread)?
I see where you're coming from but your modernist attitude--"I know better than you what's best for you"--still sounds very condescending. No offense.
Not objectively superior to Safari, in my book. At least not while the Firefox interface has all those annoying flaws and inconsistencies. But I agree that it's a great example of open source software, and its strengths and weaknesses.
Now that you mention it, it does seem strange that the case buttons don't do anything... I don't know, do Macs even come with tray eject buttons on the case anymore? Judging from pictures, it looks like they don't, so you'd be using the keyboard or going through the OS to open the tray. (This is how floppies always worked on the Mac, by the way. There was never any floppy eject button on the case.)
But I agree that if there's a tray open button on the case, then by golly it should eject the media.
I don't know what happens when you push the eject key if you've got more than one removable volume mounted. I know you can select one in the Finder and choose Eject from the menu, or click the Eject button next to the volume. I mean, it works for me...
There is a button on the keyboard labeled Eject, and that's what I usually use. There is also the Eject menu item in the Finder, and if you have a second mouse button, you can right-click the media icon and eject it that way.
Seriously, the trash-becomes-eject thing is a nonissue. It's just a shortcut that you don't have to use.
Yeah, but those aren't the only two alternatives, are they? I only meant to point out that wizards and the like aren't the be-all and end-all of UI design. I know you've heard this a million times, but contrast Windows and Mac OS X... where Windows has wizards everywhere and giant bulbous UI elements, the Mac has intuitive configuration panels and tasteful widgets that make sense. Which is easier and more pleasant to use?
The person to whom I was replying seemed to have the attitude that non-geeks are stupid and therefore need giant oversize buttons in bright colors, like children. Which is the same attitude Windows XP seems to take, by the way.
Difference is, the Mac manages to look professional about it--and the animations and fades are all purposeful. If you'd used the Mac for more than five minutes at a time, you'd know I'm not kidding.
This is why Linux will never gain significant market share on the desktop--it's being dumbed down in all the wrong ways, due to arrogant notions like these from smug Slashdotters who insist on looking down on average users. You know the kind. Average users like the doctor who performed a coronary bypass on you last year. Average users like the Pulitzer-winning journalist who wonders why she has to endure a ten-step wizard just to save a document. Is it because she's stupid? Or is it because some acne-faced programmer thought she would be stupid?
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As a professional web developer who tries to use standards as much as possible, I can tell you that display: inline does not work reliably (at all?) in Mozilla. It's another one of those quirks you have to work around. It surprised me too.
Incidentally, it works fine in Safari (KHTML)...
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The new theme really doesn't look beautiful at all. Nor does it look like a Mac app (or a Windows app, or a Linux app). And the icons look like they came from the late '90s--completely inappropriate for a piece of supposedly professional software in this day and age.
I realize that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, blah blah blah. There's still a difference between a Picasso and the kindergarten doodlings of a blind kid.
Yes, writers and layout people need software that works for them, too. That's why Caps Lock should be split into right and left curly quote. Leaving it up to the software to guess which one the writer meant by straight quote is messy and error-prone.
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Would it be too much trouble for Slashcode to automatically make links out of text starting with http://? Just a thought.
Yeah, I'm Japanese (born and raised) and my parents taught me to use those beveled wooden sticks to clean my ears. I don't know whether it's safe, but it feels really good. Almost as good as sex.
Of course, my people are also known for their other weirdnesses, such as a religion that believes the spirits of our dead ancestors haunt the streets picking up the shit of the living and eating it. I am not kidding.
Thank you. I thought the Memento thing was out of fashion.
These automobile analogies are really getting out of hand. :-P
"And those same people would get equally as annoyed and run as $HIGH_PRIVILEGE_USER on any multiuser OS."
That's just not true. You've probably heard this before, but you should try using Mac OS X sometime. It's not perfect, but its security model is a damn sight better (and more convenient, too!) than whatever you're envisioning.
How about "Right on the heels of new releases of both Firefox and Thundirbird comes the official release of Mozilla 1.7"?
"Right on the heels ... comes the ... release" isn't passive voice either. I'd say it's a wash whether the inverted sentence structure or the regular variety is better--both have their pros and cons. Damn that copyediting apprenticeship. :-P
And what if she wants the circumcision? What then?
We were talking about freedom of speech, NOT popularity.
Censorship is wrong in our culture on this side of the pond, yes (for a number of reasons). But it's a mistake to assume censorship is wrong, or even should necessarily be wrong, in other cultures, with their diverse origins, histories and social mores.
For example. I personally wouldn't want to live in Singapore, but the Singaporeans I know feel very strongly that their government maintains the right tradeoff between liberty on the one hand, and social order and cohesiveness on the other. Who among us--those of us who don't live in Singapore--is fit to criticize that?
Just a couple thoughts: How can they be pressing issues if no one cares about them? Who are you to say that certain things "hardly matter" when they're obviously a big deal to many, many people? Why ought people to be concerned about the issues you consider important (their privacy, presumably, to judge from this thread)?
I see where you're coming from but your modernist attitude--"I know better than you what's best for you"--still sounds very condescending. No offense.
That's funny... I think you totally missed the point of the parent, with whom I agree.
Not objectively superior to Safari, in my book. At least not while the Firefox interface has all those annoying flaws and inconsistencies. But I agree that it's a great example of open source software, and its strengths and weaknesses.
Does 89X suck these days? I remember thinking it was fairly decent back in the early nineties, before I moved out.
Hey, that's interesting. Should have been modded up...
Now that you mention it, it does seem strange that the case buttons don't do anything... I don't know, do Macs even come with tray eject buttons on the case anymore? Judging from pictures, it looks like they don't, so you'd be using the keyboard or going through the OS to open the tray. (This is how floppies always worked on the Mac, by the way. There was never any floppy eject button on the case.)
But I agree that if there's a tray open button on the case, then by golly it should eject the media.
I don't know what happens when you push the eject key if you've got more than one removable volume mounted. I know you can select one in the Finder and choose Eject from the menu, or click the Eject button next to the volume. I mean, it works for me...
Flamebait? Oh, dear mods. The truth hurts, doesn't it.
There is a button on the keyboard labeled Eject, and that's what I usually use. There is also the Eject menu item in the Finder, and if you have a second mouse button, you can right-click the media icon and eject it that way.
Seriously, the trash-becomes-eject thing is a nonissue. It's just a shortcut that you don't have to use.
Yeah, but those aren't the only two alternatives, are they? I only meant to point out that wizards and the like aren't the be-all and end-all of UI design. I know you've heard this a million times, but contrast Windows and Mac OS X... where Windows has wizards everywhere and giant bulbous UI elements, the Mac has intuitive configuration panels and tasteful widgets that make sense. Which is easier and more pleasant to use?
The person to whom I was replying seemed to have the attitude that non-geeks are stupid and therefore need giant oversize buttons in bright colors, like children. Which is the same attitude Windows XP seems to take, by the way.
Difference is, the Mac manages to look professional about it--and the animations and fades are all purposeful. If you'd used the Mac for more than five minutes at a time, you'd know I'm not kidding.
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
This is why Linux will never gain significant market share on the desktop--it's being dumbed down in all the wrong ways, due to arrogant notions like these from smug Slashdotters who insist on looking down on average users. You know the kind. Average users like the doctor who performed a coronary bypass on you last year. Average users like the Pulitzer-winning journalist who wonders why she has to endure a ten-step wizard just to save a document. Is it because she's stupid? Or is it because some acne-faced programmer thought she would be stupid?
Is that why it's so ugly?
As a professional web developer who tries to use standards as much as possible, I can tell you that display: inline does not work reliably (at all?) in Mozilla. It's another one of those quirks you have to work around. It surprised me too.
Incidentally, it works fine in Safari (KHTML)...
The new theme really doesn't look beautiful at all. Nor does it look like a Mac app (or a Windows app, or a Linux app). And the icons look like they came from the late '90s--completely inappropriate for a piece of supposedly professional software in this day and age.
I realize that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, blah blah blah. There's still a difference between a Picasso and the kindergarten doodlings of a blind kid.
Yes, writers and layout people need software that works for them, too. That's why Caps Lock should be split into right and left curly quote. Leaving it up to the software to guess which one the writer meant by straight quote is messy and error-prone.