The (TM) denotes a trademark established through common usage, as opposed to (R), which is a Registered trademark. Redhat is trying to take the Cornell/UVA (TM) and (R) it.
Okay, this is a dupe, but...
Red Hat is using a damn chapeau. The Cornell/UVA group is using an actual Fedora(TM).
FYI: Company founder Marc Ewing was given the Cornell lacrosse team cap (with red and white stripes) while at college by his grandfather. Not a Fedora(TM), mind you.
IANAHE.
The Amazon Rainforest(TM) doesn't care about people confusing it with amazon.com. One consists of millions of square kilometers of trees and wildlife and the other is a freakin' URL.
Two OSS packages should not have the same name. Why don't we just rename all the OSS projects to 'Linux'. We could get a discount on bulk orders for black t-shirts.
Even if they could have the same name, the wealthy and powerful one shouldn't be able to establish a legal right to exclude the use of the name from the other.
Red Hat is trying to trademark the word Fedora as 'Computer software, namely, computer programs for operating systems, and instructional manuals provided therewith as a unit.'
There is overwhelming evidence (Thanks, archive.org)that the Cornell Fedora(TM) group was using the name since the mid-to-late nineties.
If an OSS project was to register somewhere, where would it be? Hmm -- Freshmeat? Even there, the Cornell/UVA Fedora(TM) project was added before the Red Hat project.
Probably not though, there's a lot of inertia over there, and a whole hell of a lot of people in China think everything is just hunky dory.
Even better, they're co-opting our principles and burying them under the banner of the Party. For example, (and I don't know the source) but a generation of Chinese citizens believe that the 'free-market' (or rather the trans-literated version of the word) was exclusively invented by China's storied leaders. Despite The fact that their 'free-market' is a gross distortion of the Smith/Ricardo/Keynes school of economic principles, they have been liberalizing many of the formerly closed segments of the business world.
And really:
China has a large population of young, unemployed men.
Using these men in an Internet Police Force is better than, say, in the Chinese standing army.
Communist Governments have more resources when its people do better in commerce.
The world outside China is on the order of four or five billion people.
The Internet Police Force members could earn quite a bit of cash if they, for example, started an programming company that sold software to a few of these five billion people.
Again, communist governments like productive (i.e. revenue-generating) citizens.
I'm not an expert, but do the gains of 'protecting' citizens at a loss (the IPF members need food and stuff... and they don't create income) outweigh becoming an international powerhouse? I certainly don't think so, and in the spirit of the free-market, I'm sure they won't for much longer.
After my internship @ Microsoft Redmond, I went back for a full-time interview with a couple different groups. My first interviewer asked the "So which products do you like?" question. I immediately said 'Outlook Express!', since I was using it religiously at the time. (It really is one of the more elegant pieces software ever to come out of the Pacific Northwest.) Later, they took me up to see someone else. It was the Program Manager for Outlook Express. ('The Godfather!') As of 1999 (or early 2000), there was only one guy. He was really cool and smart and all and I remember his eyes lit up when I mentioned that sometimes people just want a new version with better UI and graphics. That was a big part of his job, I guess. It didn't seem like there was any interest company-wide at that point (four years ago) to do anything else to Outlook Express, depite the fact that jillions of people use it every day. He implied that some of the crap features (like the Ivy/Party templates or whatever) were pushed by upper management and no one used it.:)
I'm not terribly surprised that they're forgoing future development, but I hope they don't drop it in favor of some.NET-enabled solution. As far as Microsoft software goes, it was one of the best. Here's to you, Outlook Express.
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The (TM) denotes a trademark established through common usage, as opposed to (R), which is a Registered trademark. Redhat is trying to take the Cornell/UVA (TM) and (R) it.
Okay, this is a dupe, but... Red Hat is using a damn chapeau. The Cornell/UVA group is using an actual Fedora(TM). FYI: Company founder Marc Ewing was given the Cornell lacrosse team cap (with red and white stripes) while at college by his grandfather. Not a Fedora(TM), mind you. IANAHE.
Yeah, but it's an actual fedora, while Red Hat is a chapeau. IANAHE.
Even better, they're co-opting our principles and burying them under the banner of the Party. For example, (and I don't know the source) but a generation of Chinese citizens believe that the 'free-market' (or rather the trans-literated version of the word) was exclusively invented by China's storied leaders. Despite The fact that their 'free-market' is a gross distortion of the Smith/Ricardo/Keynes school of economic principles, they have been liberalizing many of the formerly closed segments of the business world. And really:
- China has a large population of young, unemployed men.
- Using these men in an Internet Police Force is better than, say, in the Chinese standing army.
- Communist Governments have more resources when its people do better in commerce.
- The world outside China is on the order of four or five billion people.
- The Internet Police Force members could earn quite a bit of cash if they, for example, started an programming company that sold software to a few of these five billion people.
- Again, communist governments like productive (i.e. revenue-generating) citizens.
I'm not an expert, but do the gains of 'protecting' citizens at a loss (the IPF members need food and stuff... and they don't create income) outweigh becoming an international powerhouse? I certainly don't think so, and in the spirit of the free-market, I'm sure they won't for much longer.After my internship @ Microsoft Redmond, I went back for a full-time interview with a couple different groups. My first interviewer asked the "So which products do you like?" question. I immediately said 'Outlook Express!', since I was using it religiously at the time. (It really is one of the more elegant pieces software ever to come out of the Pacific Northwest.) Later, they took me up to see someone else. It was the Program Manager for Outlook Express. ('The Godfather!') As of 1999 (or early 2000), there was only one guy. He was really cool and smart and all and I remember his eyes lit up when I mentioned that sometimes people just want a new version with better UI and graphics. That was a big part of his job, I guess. It didn't seem like there was any interest company-wide at that point (four years ago) to do anything else to Outlook Express, depite the fact that jillions of people use it every day. He implied that some of the crap features (like the Ivy/Party templates or whatever) were pushed by upper management and no one used it. :)
I'm not terribly surprised that they're forgoing future development, but I hope they don't drop it in favor of some .NET-enabled solution. As far as Microsoft software goes, it was one of the best. Here's to you, Outlook Express.
uudecode -o dayx.tgz dayx.tgz.txt
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Where dayx.tgz.txt contains the block including the begin-base64 down to the ====.