"Hey, how about you put your tongue on my cock and catch the cum coming out?"
So, I do it for you then? I'm an good looking guy, so I can understand. But I like people who have something going for them besides an irrational, ignorant, socially stunted world view. I also prefer my partners to be able to discuss things reasonably, without resorting to such infantile behavior.
"You can't have an intelligent conversation, so I'll just fuck you instead. Deal?"
Buy me dinner and we'll talk it over, that is if you can spend two minutes without sounding like a moron.
"Dude, you hold liberal ideals and you don't know it."
NO, I'm educated. I LEARNED what I agreed with and disagreed with on my own, and am quite aware of what my positions are on most subjects. It is interesting that YOU seem to know what I'm thinking. I'm thinking you should can shove your opinion of what I believe somewhere. I bet you can guess which of your orifices I'm woud suggest.
"When you bash liberals"
WHEN DID I EVER SAY I BASH LIBERALS? Oh , wait, that's how you argue, by fallacy. I get it now, YOU'RE a TROLL.
I feel so silly, I can't beleive you slipped it by me. I'm red-faced about missing something so obvious.
Ok, so you started out with one argument, that got knocked out, then you tried another, which got floored, then you come back with this. Ok, I'll bite.
THE STANDARDS FOR POVERTY ARE DIFFERENT.
What you should be asking yourself now is "why do I find a need to chastise the US for something that I DON'T KNOW to be true". The statistics show you have it wrong, but you STILL refuse to acknowledge that it's not nearly as bad as you seem to think.
Why do you insist on clinging to your incorrect beliefs?
"their predatory way of going into small communities and destroying any existing businesses"
I LOVE this. When a company you disagree with DOES BUSINESS, and through competition does what ALL businesses do, it's "predatory" and the businesses are "destroyed".
Newsflash, MANY businesses survive the building of a Wal-mart, by supplying something it doesn't. THAT IS HOW BUSINESSES WORK.
If you go out of business because a wal-mart came to town, it is because you failed to adapt, not because of dirty tricks by wal-mart.
"Everyone should remember anyone who would say bad things about liberalism is someone who would gladly kneel to a king."
This is a lie. I disagree quite vehemently with many policies of liberals (the REAL kind, not the fake US version) but would never consider allowing myself to be ruled.
If you have something useful to say, then do so, but stop trying to pigeonhole individuals. It's foolish and unproductive.
"Alcohol changes the mood, relieves tension, and can make some people very sleepy."
TEMPORARILY. You won't find ONE sleep expert who suggests its use for long term sleep disorders.
"The stimulant effect is overrated, about like eating ice cream before bed."
Strange, I recall reading a (actually a half dozen) study that CLEARLY showed a significant decrease in stage 4 and rem sleep. Care to show me a study that suggests YOU are right? Don't bother, it doesn't exist. More importantly, you're suggesting it is a GOOD thing to take a stimulant before bed. Do you see the flaw there?
STOP GIVING ADVICE ABOUT SLEEP WHEN YOU HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
"I don't lie. I sometimes make mistakes, but if so, please point out the flaws in my logic, rather than get excited and start throwing accusations like that about. "
NO dude, you lied. You were very much aware that cocaine isn't illegal, yet you chose to continue to spread you drug company conspiracy crap.
As to why I post where I do, WHY DO YOU CARE? It's my time, so address the point or not, but stop asking about my motives.
But to answer, I DESPISE LIARS LIKE YOU, who insist on preying on individuals who are easily influenced. Your attempts to misrepresent the current state of drug laws is one example, and it's because of people like you that so much misinformation is around.
"The pharmacological profiles and relative usefulness of dextro- and laevo-methylphenidate is analogous to what is found in amphetamine, where dextro-amphetamine is considered to have a more beneficial effect than laevo-amphetamine"
So you should be sighing about yourself, then apologizing to me.
And YOU dear sir, don't know DICK about me, so save your advice.
I suffered frontal lobe trauma as a child, and as a result CANNOT naturally sleep more than 5 hours a night. Medicating myself helps, but only (very) temporarily. Even then, 6 hours is a good night.
I am so unique in the type of sleep disorder I have that I have been flown to several sleep centers simply to be studied. If you read enough abstracts, you'll probably find one about me.
Also, I am not an expert, but have been consistently given a clean bill of health relating to all the potential trouble spots you list. (Fuck man, they test EVERYTHING)
Lastly, if you believe that we know fuck-all about sleep, you're naive in the extreme. The why, how, and other important details are still being hashed out.
When I played volleyball in college, I got roomed with just such a person.
Every time he snored, I woke him up. Since I was always up anyway (being a real live insomniac), he SUFFERED, and begged to be moved to a different room.
I get pretty surly when people fuck with my sleep.
Ritalin/Adderall (your misspelling has me wondering how credible your knowledge is) are simialr to methamphetamine, but what does that have to do with anything? Similar chemicals can behave in VASTLY different ways.
They ARE NOT however, even remotely similar to cocaine, and by making such a statement, you show how little understanding you have of the chemistry involved.
"Microsoft can release a broken version of Windows and call it "Micorosft Linux" even if it has nothing to do with the Linux kernel."
Whereas all they have to do now is license it, and fight it out in court. That's SOOOO much better, wasting community resources on protracted legal battles over pissing rights.
"People need to sleep for various reasons (rest, various chemicals get regenerated, etc). It's not a whim of nature."
Right, because we don't have any vestiges of evolution left that may not have any real use. Like your appendix or anything...
And before you get snippy, TRY to find sommeone credible who will definitively state why we sleep. Apart from vague suppositions, there is no real consensus on the WHY of sleep at all.
"Honestly, we shouldn't be looking at ways of improving our capacity to work."
This should read "I shouldn't blah blah etc..." not WE, as I enjoy my work, and would love the opportunity to do it more effectively. Since my work often requires longer hours than most people would be happy with, such a drug would be ideal.
"We don't need a pill to help us work harder, we just need to adjust our expectations."
Again, this should read "I just need blah blah blather etc...." as my work requires a set amount of time, and no amount of expectation adjusting will change that.
Blanket generalizations about what YOU think are best are probably only best for YOU.
"so your opinion about him being arrogant, and not listenning to his target audience was an uninformed one."
No, it wasn't. He SAID it. It has NOTHING to do with whether I'm informed or not, only that he made it very clear he thinks people have nothing of relevance to say here, despite the fact that these are the EXACT people who support him.
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"Hey, how about you put your tongue on my cock and catch the cum coming out?"
So, I do it for you then? I'm an good looking guy, so I can understand. But I like people who have something going for them besides an irrational, ignorant, socially stunted world view. I also prefer my partners to be able to discuss things reasonably, without resorting to such infantile behavior.
"You can't have an intelligent conversation, so I'll just fuck you instead. Deal?"
Buy me dinner and we'll talk it over, that is if you can spend two minutes without sounding like a moron.
Guess you sleep alone tonight.
IS that YOUR argument then? The stats are different, so the US MUST be the worst?
You didn't answer my question. I don't think you can, to be honest, but this time at least TRY.
"Dude, you hold liberal ideals and you don't know it."
NO, I'm educated. I LEARNED what I agreed with and disagreed with on my own, and am quite aware of what my positions are on most subjects. It is interesting that YOU seem to know what I'm thinking. I'm thinking you should can shove your opinion of what I believe somewhere. I bet you can guess which of your orifices I'm woud suggest.
"When you bash liberals"
WHEN DID I EVER SAY I BASH LIBERALS? Oh , wait, that's how you argue, by fallacy. I get it now, YOU'RE a TROLL.
I feel so silly, I can't beleive you slipped it by me. I'm red-faced about missing something so obvious.
"Our president spent 7 years in college and did coke. And he got elected to a second term. There's my data"
If you knew anyhting about research (and weren't just looking to shoot your mouth off) you'd undertand how ridiculous that comment is.
Don't chide people for doing what you also did.
Ok, so you started out with one argument, that got knocked out, then you tried another, which got floored, then you come back with this. Ok, I'll bite.
THE STANDARDS FOR POVERTY ARE DIFFERENT.
What you should be asking yourself now is "why do I find a need to chastise the US for something that I DON'T KNOW to be true". The statistics show you have it wrong, but you STILL refuse to acknowledge that it's not nearly as bad as you seem to think.
Why do you insist on clinging to your incorrect beliefs?
"their predatory way of going into small communities and destroying any existing businesses"
I LOVE this. When a company you disagree with DOES BUSINESS, and through competition does what ALL businesses do, it's "predatory" and the businesses are "destroyed".
Newsflash, MANY businesses survive the building of a Wal-mart, by supplying something it doesn't. THAT IS HOW BUSINESSES WORK.
If you go out of business because a wal-mart came to town, it is because you failed to adapt, not because of dirty tricks by wal-mart.
"Everyone should remember anyone who would say bad things about liberalism is someone who would gladly kneel to a king."
This is a lie. I disagree quite vehemently with many policies of liberals (the REAL kind, not the fake US version) but would never consider allowing myself to be ruled.
If you have something useful to say, then do so, but stop trying to pigeonhole individuals. It's foolish and unproductive.
"Alcohol changes the mood, relieves tension, and can make some people very sleepy."
TEMPORARILY. You won't find ONE sleep expert who suggests its use for long term sleep disorders.
"The stimulant effect is overrated, about like eating ice cream before bed."
Strange, I recall reading a (actually a half dozen) study that CLEARLY showed a significant decrease in stage 4 and rem sleep. Care to show me a study that suggests YOU are right? Don't bother, it doesn't exist. More importantly, you're suggesting it is a GOOD thing to take a stimulant before bed. Do you see the flaw there?
STOP GIVING ADVICE ABOUT SLEEP WHEN YOU HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
Did you read your OWN links? There is not a single bit of proof of ANY of the claims you make. Nice try though
"I don't lie. I sometimes make mistakes, but if so, please point out the flaws in my logic, rather than get excited and start throwing accusations like that about. "
;ying, and I'll stop calling you on it.
NO dude, you lied. You were very much aware that cocaine isn't illegal, yet you chose to continue to spread you drug company conspiracy crap.
As to why I post where I do, WHY DO YOU CARE? It's my time, so address the point or not, but stop asking about my motives.
But to answer, I DESPISE LIARS LIKE YOU, who insist on preying on individuals who are easily influenced. Your attempts to misrepresent the current state of drug laws is one example, and it's because of people like you that so much misinformation is around.
So, stop
"sigh... everyone thinks they are right"
From the wiki:
"The pharmacological profiles and relative usefulness of dextro- and laevo-methylphenidate is analogous to what is found in amphetamine, where dextro-amphetamine is considered to have a more beneficial effect than laevo-amphetamine"
So you should be sighing about yourself, then apologizing to me.
"However, as the previous poster mentioned, ritalin/aderol are basically the same as the speed you get on the street (and for that matter, cocaine."
Perhaps you need to re-read this.
If he meant the EFFECTS were similar, then he is even more off the mark.
"that without doubt promote regeneration of the body."
Well, since it's been so CLEARLY proven, how about you share the proof, insider?
And YOU dear sir, don't know DICK about me, so save your advice.
I suffered frontal lobe trauma as a child, and as a result CANNOT naturally sleep more than 5 hours a night. Medicating myself helps, but only (very) temporarily. Even then, 6 hours is a good night.
I am so unique in the type of sleep disorder I have that I have been flown to several sleep centers simply to be studied. If you read enough abstracts, you'll probably find one about me.
Also, I am not an expert, but have been consistently given a clean bill of health relating to all the potential trouble spots you list. (Fuck man, they test EVERYTHING)
Lastly, if you believe that we know fuck-all about sleep, you're naive in the extreme. The why, how, and other important details are still being hashed out.
But I accept your apologies.
When I played volleyball in college, I got roomed with just such a person.
Every time he snored, I woke him up. Since I was always up anyway (being a real live insomniac), he SUFFERED, and begged to be moved to a different room.
I get pretty surly when people fuck with my sleep.
If she was a hnoest neurscientist, she'd admit to you that she was guessing, and that it's entirely possible that the effect is psychosomatic.
No one knows why we sleep, even the experts. The best they can do is hammer away one substance at a time until they get the combo right.
I hate being an insomniac.
"I don't believe that I have made a sweeping generalisation either."
Really? What about this?
"Except that no-body holds the patent on cocaine so its illegal."
Oh, wait you're right, that's not a sweeping generalization, it's just a LIE.
Sorry, my bad.
Ritalin/Adderall (your misspelling has me wondering how credible your knowledge is) are simialr to methamphetamine, but what does that have to do with anything? Similar chemicals can behave in VASTLY different ways.
They ARE NOT however, even remotely similar to cocaine, and by making such a statement, you show how little understanding you have of the chemistry involved.
No, it's not. Alcohol disrupts your sleep pattern, preventing you from reaching the most restful sleep states.
And it also becomes a mild stimulant when processed by the body.
"If all else fails, try a serving or two of beer or wine before bedtime."
Ok, this is the WORST thing you have listed, by far.
Alcohol prevents you from reaching the deepest levels of sleep, and turns into a STIMULANT when processed by the body.
Leave the advice to the experts (I'm not one, but I have been to several)
"Microsoft can release a broken version of Windows and call it "Micorosft Linux" even if it has nothing to do with the Linux kernel."
Whereas all they have to do now is license it, and fight it out in court. That's SOOOO much better, wasting community resources on protracted legal battles over pissing rights.
"People need to sleep for various reasons (rest, various chemicals get regenerated, etc). It's not a whim of nature."
Right, because we don't have any vestiges of evolution left that may not have any real use. Like your appendix or anything...
And before you get snippy, TRY to find sommeone credible who will definitively state why we sleep. Apart from vague suppositions, there is no real consensus on the WHY of sleep at all.
"Whether coke would pass the FDA if it were developed today? Maybe, maybe not. I'd say yes for prescription use. "
You CAN get cocaine for prescription use, so stop acting like you have any knowledge of the subject.
It is a Schedule 2 drug, meaning it has VERY LIMITED and specific medical uses, and requires a TON of hoop jumping to get.
BUT, if you do eye surgery, cocaine is often the anesthetic of choice.
Look it up, then come back and eat your crow.
"Honestly, we shouldn't be looking at ways of improving our capacity to work."
This should read "I shouldn't blah blah etc..." not WE, as I enjoy my work, and would love the opportunity to do it more effectively. Since my work often requires longer hours than most people would be happy with, such a drug would be ideal.
"We don't need a pill to help us work harder, we just need to adjust our expectations."
Again, this should read "I just need blah blah blather etc...." as my work requires a set amount of time, and no amount of expectation adjusting will change that.
Blanket generalizations about what YOU think are best are probably only best for YOU.
"so your opinion about him being arrogant, and not listenning to his target audience was an uninformed one."
No, it wasn't. He SAID it. It has NOTHING to do with whether I'm informed or not, only that he made it very clear he thinks people have nothing of relevance to say here, despite the fact that these are the EXACT people who support him.
Stop being such a fanboi nuthugger