I hope it won't be tied to the Move camera, or we'll be seeing "share your penis" until Sony shuts that feature off. Nothing to look forward to next gen. I just can't be bothered to participate.
Verisign signs keys and can sign your bootloader with Microsoft's key if you want, or you could use your own key and install it on your system or you could turn SecureBoot off.
See, we paranoid folk have seen enough of Microsoft's tactics in the past to believe that it starts out fine and open... "sure use your own key".... but soon it's "your key? HAHA!" (cue mustache-twisting Ballmer in a black cape and stovepipe hat). Those of us who are suspicious can be a little pedantic, but we're just going on track record here, and Microsoft's is abysmal. It's not an indictment of EFI, or the consortium behind it. It's and indictment of the greed of Microsoft and its hatred of Linux.
(what the hell is the difference between OpenOffice and LibreOffice again?), I really don't know what "quality" software you're talking about.
OpenOffice is now Oracle's. Oracle hates Open Source. LibreOffice is the "unencumbered by Larry Ellison's ego" version of the Office suite.
Quality is in the eye of the beholder when you're talking about interfaces. I have not found a single app that doesn't do what I need it to straight off the repository. The beauty of OSS is that if you don't like something, you can make it your own, without having to wait for the author to fix/enhance the app. That makes it worthwhile for me... of course YMMV...
I use Fluxbox (which gets out of my way)... and the added bonus of not being part of the Gnome 3 beta test. That's another beauty of Linux and OSS... choice and freedom to choose what you want. The way I finally decided on Linux (off and on user since 1993) was because I didn't have enough horsepower to run Windows 7 effctively... so rather than go get a new PC (the one I have is still kicking after many years), I decided to retire XP and try Linux. It's been nearly smooth sailing since. I had many of the same hiccups I did with my XP installation (drivers)... but once I ironed them out, my machine hums along perfectly... I've since added many new (new to me) eBay PCs to my Linux group...:) It's amazing how fast Linux runs (full GUI) on a relatively old PC... Nothing's perfect, but for my needs, I've found little that I don't like about Linux.
When I search web browser, I get the wikipedia entry, Opera, Firefox, Chrome, and Safari in that order. I found it strange that I had Firefox as my 3rd entry, but then again, I am running Iceweasel (Debian). If I were to search "web browser" from Chrome, would I want an ad for Chrome at the top? Search engines are smarter these days.:) Not too smart, though.
Your search habits give you these results, I'm guessing. They're different for everyone, so that means they aren't giving preferential treatment... unless you mean preferential treatment to your tastes.
You're right, I forget the name of it... I got my brands mixed up. There is a flu vaccine that you inject nasally that has live culture of the flu virus, though it is weakened. It was for people who are too wimpy for needles.:)
You most likely didn't get the flu. You probably got flu-like symptoms... they vary in severity from mild to fairly bad (aches, mild to moderate fever, headache, fatigue, etc), but only last a day or two. That's your immune system "getting to know" the virus and incorporating it into its fighting regimen. You cannot get the flu from the injected vaccines (it's dead), and only a slight risk using Tamiflu (since it is still a live culture in that vaccine, but it is very weak.)
Are you allergic to egg products? That might be why you got sick... try Tamiflu next time. Trying to rely on herd immunity in this "autism was caused by vaccines" world we live in is more of a crapshoot than it used to be.
What's fatal about the flu (that I've said earlier in the thread) is the secondary infections (pneumonia etc) that can accompany the flu. Go see a doctor to be sure, and you will most likely survive the flu, unless you're an unlucky bastard God has it in for...:)
Technically influenza isn't the killer, secondary respiratory infections (pneumonia) are the killers. Influenza just holds your head under the water until the bubbles stop.:)
The 1918 pandemic killed people (otherwise robustly healthy people) via secondary infections. In 1957, there was a bigger outbreak (sickened more people than the 1918 pandemic IIRC) but since there was more antibiotics available to treat the bacterial secondary infections, there were fewer deaths. These days, the flu kills the already weakened and elderly (or the very young) far more than the average schmo.
That being said, I often wonder if we see another "new" mutation of influenza if it will be as devastating as 1918... One that we as a species have never seen, so it comes on us in full force, I mean.
Either way, I got 6 weeks of PTO that I can start taking January 1st... so I'm covered if I get the flu. I loathe people who store up their PTO (you only get to roll over a week each year)....
If our government supplied crack, heroin, and firearms there'd be no deficit. If the government was a drug dealer, you'd certainly know it. Peddle your conspiracy theories to someone else. The government of the United States is many things... incompetent, lazy, self-serving, pedantic, and misguided... but it's not a criminal organization that sells illegal substances to people.
If you think anyone but a tiny minority (seriously tiny - as in fractions of one percent) give a flying fuck about "proprietary", or "compatible, open-format, OSes"
I am in that "tiny" minority. I never want the rule of the unwashed mob to interfere with MY ability to run anything I choose on my computer at any time I choose without asking permission of Microsoft. The fact there is a minority of people who do NOT run Windows or OSX is relevant and since they exist, it is not disconnected with reality. For the last 20 years or so, people have been using Linux on their PCs. Why should those of us who do sit back and let the masses dictate if we can continue doing it? I don't give a flying fuck what the masses want. The masses can have their Windows 8 and all that it entails without inhibiting MY ability NOT to use Windows 8, that's the beauty of the Intel Architecture. Microsoft wants to eliminate that "loophole"... and that is what *I* am pissed about. If you aren't, then fine. You don't have to be, but dismissing those who do and pretending to have a "monopoly" on the facts and logic is pretty pathetic, even if the Internet Fuckwad Syndrome is turned to 11.
The OS... yes they do. But they also abused that position and got caught. Want to put BeOS on a PC, OEM? Pay MS the "Windows fee" anyway. Want to put Linux on a PC (OEM again)? Pay up.
Surely this isn't rocket surgery people. We get astroturfers all the time trying to deflect what MS is doing with UEFI and SecureBoot keys, but I honestly can't believe that slashdot is for this sort of lock down. If I'm wrong, great. I hope I am. I am not interested in another Redmond-dominated market ruining a good bit of tech because they feel the need to run ALL the world's devices.
Which is their "new" target. They see the world going to a smartphone/tablet market... guess what they want to do? The same thing they did in the Intel market before they got spanked.
In what market are you proposing Microsoft has a monopoly ?
It's in the sentence you quote. Windows. They were convicted of abusing monopoly power in the OS/Browser/Office arena a while back, in case you might've missed that trial. Their "probation" expired recently, so they've been much more aggressive in launching lock-in at the vendor level.
"Dominant market share" ? In what market ? Not tablet hardware. Not tablet OSes. Not tablet software. What market ?
They are doing what most monopolies do when they want to dominate a new market. Use their existing monopoly to leverage an unfair advantage and squeeze out competitors. Surely you agree Microsoft has a monopoly in the OS market. The closest competitor (albeit a rich one) is Apple. Standard Oil did it many times over, and it's pretty common even among vertical monopolies like Standard Oil.
The reason this is an abuse is quite simple. They are requiring ARM based tablets that have Windows 8 certification (take whatever you want from the intended meaning of that phrase) to require a non-user accessible key to certify or "sign" binaries on the ARM platform. Granted, Surface is Microsoft's product, but this will (and it has been WELL documented) apply to ALL ARM processor based tablets, even from third parties. (Want to play in Windows 8 Land? You're going to have to pay the gatekeeper, Microsoft, and not give users the SecureBoot Keys.)
Implications are that they will continue to move outward from this "non-monopoly" market of tablets and phones into Intel-based "certified" Windows 8 laptops. (Desktops are probably safe, but I wouldn't bet on Redmond's desire to kill Linux and other alternative OSes there too.) All you have to do is look at the history of Microsoft to see that anything they do is geared towards not making a better product than their competitors, but defeating utterly their competitors and leaving them unable to continue. The problem that Microsoft's been facing for decades now is the fact that Linux is free. You can't under-price free, and you can't, in the current Intel architecture, make a suitable "Windows only" system anymore. (There are exceptions, and some driver support sucks, but for the most part, it's not like it was in the heyday of Microsoft's OS hot war against everyone else.)
Microsoft wants the early 90's back. They also want to do that without attracting the ire of the Federal Government. They do this where they aren't dominant and see how the public takes it. Remember TPM and encrypting hard drives (the ATA standard) back in the late 90's. It was floated about that using that could combat those evil pirates with keys granted by a licensed arm of the government (or contractor, hint Microsoft) Good ol' Senator Fritz Hollings was on the witch hunt claiming if technology companies didn't invent a way to prevent piracy at the circuit level, the federal government would step in... Thankfully that was quashed, and now Fritz is close to his karma catching up to the old cocksucker.
So forgive us for not believing Microsoft doesn't have a sinister plot in mind with this secureBoot code signing fungasm of theirs. History has proven that they are not to be trusted.... ever.
Some people simply work best when cornered. Perhaps the fellow Linus was ripping into needed that as motivation to shape up. It's the mark of a good manager (so few exist these days) who knows which people to prod, and which people not to micromanage. Funny thing is, just lime most suits in the world, every programmer is interchangeable, therefore they all respond to the drum beat and the whip.
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I hope it won't be tied to the Move camera, or we'll be seeing "share your penis" until Sony shuts that feature off. Nothing to look forward to next gen. I just can't be bothered to participate.
It's funny... we hear "after the PSN fiasco, I won't trust Sony with my dirty underpants, much less buy their next console. Fuck Sony."
"After 6 consoles, damnit, I'm not giving Microsoft a dime since they can't be bothered to make decent, reliable hardware. Fuck Microsoft."
and then.... "new specs are leaked......."
SHINY! ME want!!!
Typical. :)
Verisign signs keys and can sign your bootloader with Microsoft's key if you want, or you could use your own key and install it on your system or you could turn SecureBoot off.
See, we paranoid folk have seen enough of Microsoft's tactics in the past to believe that it starts out fine and open... "sure use your own key".... but soon it's "your key? HAHA!" (cue mustache-twisting Ballmer in a black cape and stovepipe hat). Those of us who are suspicious can be a little pedantic, but we're just going on track record here, and Microsoft's is abysmal. It's not an indictment of EFI, or the consortium behind it. It's and indictment of the greed of Microsoft and its hatred of Linux.
I pay good money for hardware... sometimes it's good... sometimes it disappoints. :)
I am also slightly cheap... so I pay little money for old hardware.... surprisingly, that method pays off pretty well.
Lay off the fermented carrots, Rabbit... you know how you get.. ;)
(what the hell is the difference between OpenOffice and LibreOffice again?), I really don't know what "quality" software you're talking about.
OpenOffice is now Oracle's. Oracle hates Open Source. LibreOffice is the "unencumbered by Larry Ellison's ego" version of the Office suite.
Quality is in the eye of the beholder when you're talking about interfaces. I have not found a single app that doesn't do what I need it to straight off the repository. The beauty of OSS is that if you don't like something, you can make it your own, without having to wait for the author to fix/enhance the app. That makes it worthwhile for me... of course YMMV...
I use Fluxbox (which gets out of my way)... and the added bonus of not being part of the Gnome 3 beta test. That's another beauty of Linux and OSS... choice and freedom to choose what you want. The way I finally decided on Linux (off and on user since 1993) was because I didn't have enough horsepower to run Windows 7 effctively... so rather than go get a new PC (the one I have is still kicking after many years), I decided to retire XP and try Linux. It's been nearly smooth sailing since. I had many of the same hiccups I did with my XP installation (drivers)... but once I ironed them out, my machine hums along perfectly... I've since added many new (new to me) eBay PCs to my Linux group... :) It's amazing how fast Linux runs (full GUI) on a relatively old PC... Nothing's perfect, but for my needs, I've found little that I don't like about Linux.
You should really pull that stick out of your ass and enjoy life more....
Or, you simply installed Linux and moved on from the idea that you have to pay for something to get quality software....
They will claim Amazon violates their patent on Safari's rounded corners. Then they'll go to court and try to ban Amazon. (It's funny, laugh...)
When I search web browser, I get the wikipedia entry, Opera, Firefox, Chrome, and Safari in that order. I found it strange that I had Firefox as my 3rd entry, but then again, I am running Iceweasel (Debian). If I were to search "web browser" from Chrome, would I want an ad for Chrome at the top? Search engines are smarter these days. :) Not too smart, though.
Your search habits give you these results, I'm guessing. They're different for everyone, so that means they aren't giving preferential treatment... unless you mean preferential treatment to your tastes.
Does anyone actually know what country they are based in now?
Fantasyland?
You're right, I forget the name of it... I got my brands mixed up. There is a flu vaccine that you inject nasally that has live culture of the flu virus, though it is weakened. It was for people who are too wimpy for needles. :)
Too many silly names for things these days.
What side effects? And how is the influenza vaccine "not healthy"? You're not one of those "autism from vaccines" followers of Jenny McCarthy are you?
You most likely didn't get the flu. You probably got flu-like symptoms... they vary in severity from mild to fairly bad (aches, mild to moderate fever, headache, fatigue, etc), but only last a day or two. That's your immune system "getting to know" the virus and incorporating it into its fighting regimen. You cannot get the flu from the injected vaccines (it's dead), and only a slight risk using Tamiflu (since it is still a live culture in that vaccine, but it is very weak.)
Are you allergic to egg products? That might be why you got sick... try Tamiflu next time. Trying to rely on herd immunity in this "autism was caused by vaccines" world we live in is more of a crapshoot than it used to be.
What's fatal about the flu (that I've said earlier in the thread) is the secondary infections (pneumonia etc) that can accompany the flu. Go see a doctor to be sure, and you will most likely survive the flu, unless you're an unlucky bastard God has it in for... :)
Technically influenza isn't the killer, secondary respiratory infections (pneumonia) are the killers. Influenza just holds your head under the water until the bubbles stop. :)
The 1918 pandemic killed people (otherwise robustly healthy people) via secondary infections. In 1957, there was a bigger outbreak (sickened more people than the 1918 pandemic IIRC) but since there was more antibiotics available to treat the bacterial secondary infections, there were fewer deaths. These days, the flu kills the already weakened and elderly (or the very young) far more than the average schmo.
That being said, I often wonder if we see another "new" mutation of influenza if it will be as devastating as 1918... One that we as a species have never seen, so it comes on us in full force, I mean.
Either way, I got 6 weeks of PTO that I can start taking January 1st... so I'm covered if I get the flu. I loathe people who store up their PTO (you only get to roll over a week each year)....
I think it depends on what time of day you're reading /. :) heheh.
If our government supplied crack, heroin, and firearms there'd be no deficit. If the government was a drug dealer, you'd certainly know it. Peddle your conspiracy theories to someone else. The government of the United States is many things... incompetent, lazy, self-serving, pedantic, and misguided... but it's not a criminal organization that sells illegal substances to people.
Whoever railroaded this deal through the bureaucracy is probably going to get promoted.
Once they update to "Warship Windows RT"... it'll solve ALL their problems... provided they update the entire ship to touchscreen technology. :)
If you think anyone but a tiny minority (seriously tiny - as in fractions of one percent) give a flying fuck about "proprietary", or "compatible, open-format, OSes"
I am in that "tiny" minority. I never want the rule of the unwashed mob to interfere with MY ability to run anything I choose on my computer at any time I choose without asking permission of Microsoft. The fact there is a minority of people who do NOT run Windows or OSX is relevant and since they exist, it is not disconnected with reality. For the last 20 years or so, people have been using Linux on their PCs. Why should those of us who do sit back and let the masses dictate if we can continue doing it? I don't give a flying fuck what the masses want. The masses can have their Windows 8 and all that it entails without inhibiting MY ability NOT to use Windows 8, that's the beauty of the Intel Architecture. Microsoft wants to eliminate that "loophole"... and that is what *I* am pissed about. If you aren't, then fine. You don't have to be, but dismissing those who do and pretending to have a "monopoly" on the facts and logic is pretty pathetic, even if the Internet Fuckwad Syndrome is turned to 11.
The OS... yes they do. But they also abused that position and got caught. Want to put BeOS on a PC, OEM? Pay MS the "Windows fee" anyway. Want to put Linux on a PC (OEM again)? Pay up.
Surely this isn't rocket surgery people. We get astroturfers all the time trying to deflect what MS is doing with UEFI and SecureBoot keys, but I honestly can't believe that slashdot is for this sort of lock down. If I'm wrong, great. I hope I am. I am not interested in another Redmond-dominated market ruining a good bit of tech because they feel the need to run ALL the world's devices.
Which is their "new" target. They see the world going to a smartphone/tablet market... guess what they want to do? The same thing they did in the Intel market before they got spanked.
Thanks for making my point for me.
I can install Linux on my Mac Mini without much effort. I cannot however on the Surface tablet.
In what market are you proposing Microsoft has a monopoly ?
It's in the sentence you quote. Windows. They were convicted of abusing monopoly power in the OS/Browser/Office arena a while back, in case you might've missed that trial. Their "probation" expired recently, so they've been much more aggressive in launching lock-in at the vendor level.
"Dominant market share" ? In what market ? Not tablet hardware. Not tablet OSes. Not tablet software. What market ?
They are doing what most monopolies do when they want to dominate a new market. Use their existing monopoly to leverage an unfair advantage and squeeze out competitors. Surely you agree Microsoft has a monopoly in the OS market. The closest competitor (albeit a rich one) is Apple. Standard Oil did it many times over, and it's pretty common even among vertical monopolies like Standard Oil.
The reason this is an abuse is quite simple. They are requiring ARM based tablets that have Windows 8 certification (take whatever you want from the intended meaning of that phrase) to require a non-user accessible key to certify or "sign" binaries on the ARM platform. Granted, Surface is Microsoft's product, but this will (and it has been WELL documented) apply to ALL ARM processor based tablets, even from third parties. (Want to play in Windows 8 Land? You're going to have to pay the gatekeeper, Microsoft, and not give users the SecureBoot Keys.)
Implications are that they will continue to move outward from this "non-monopoly" market of tablets and phones into Intel-based "certified" Windows 8 laptops. (Desktops are probably safe, but I wouldn't bet on Redmond's desire to kill Linux and other alternative OSes there too.) All you have to do is look at the history of Microsoft to see that anything they do is geared towards not making a better product than their competitors, but defeating utterly their competitors and leaving them unable to continue. The problem that Microsoft's been facing for decades now is the fact that Linux is free. You can't under-price free, and you can't, in the current Intel architecture, make a suitable "Windows only" system anymore. (There are exceptions, and some driver support sucks, but for the most part, it's not like it was in the heyday of Microsoft's OS hot war against everyone else.)
Microsoft wants the early 90's back. They also want to do that without attracting the ire of the Federal Government. They do this where they aren't dominant and see how the public takes it. Remember TPM and encrypting hard drives (the ATA standard) back in the late 90's. It was floated about that using that could combat those evil pirates with keys granted by a licensed arm of the government (or contractor, hint Microsoft) Good ol' Senator Fritz Hollings was on the witch hunt claiming if technology companies didn't invent a way to prevent piracy at the circuit level, the federal government would step in... Thankfully that was quashed, and now Fritz is close to his karma catching up to the old cocksucker.
So forgive us for not believing Microsoft doesn't have a sinister plot in mind with this secureBoot code signing fungasm of theirs. History has proven that they are not to be trusted.... ever.
Some people simply work best when cornered. Perhaps the fellow Linus was ripping into needed that as motivation to shape up. It's the mark of a good manager (so few exist these days) who knows which people to prod, and which people not to micromanage. Funny thing is, just lime most suits in the world, every programmer is interchangeable, therefore they all respond to the drum beat and the whip.
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