Raw power, eh. That must be why the Radeon 9700 Pro, with a GPU clock of 325MHz, was equivalent to the GeForce FX 5800 Ultra, with a GPU clock of 500MHz. The Radeon 9700 Pro was so focused on raw power that it put out a whopping fifty-seven watts of heat to the 5800 Ultra's mere eighty! The 5800 Ultra had a far more sophisticated cooling system, of course, which consisted of a copper heatsink that stole a PCI slot and a banshee-like fan. Now that's what I call finesse!
Do your homework before you post:P
The view of nVidia fanboys is this: Valve and ATi are in bed together and have been for a while, and Valve sabotaged Half-Life 2 so it wouldn't run on NV3x properly in return for a whole bundle of money from ATi. Never mind that this wouldn't make any business sense-- you see, Majestic 12 are the REAL ones behind this, and we can't possibly know what they have in store for the world.
The view of ATi fanboys is this: Anyone who bought a GeForce FX is an idiot, as they obviously should have had a stolen timedemo of Half-Life 2 on hand to benchmark with. If they didn't break into Valve's offices and steal the code, that's their own fault. Also, nVidia is clearly exactly like 3dfx, because they slipped up, JUST LIKE 3DFX! Dun dun dunnn!(The Quake/Quack scandal involving ATi never existed, of course.)
The view of most sane, rational human beings is that this is just another stage of the highly competitive video card market, and that anyone who spends time arguing over which company is better needs to be tranquilized, preferably with something meant for very large animals.
Actually, the most popular graphics card for high-end gaming right now is the ATi Radeon 9700 series. But I do agree with your point, and I think they will too; companies don't like losing profits.
"Minimum requirements for playing the game after you install it: Pentium 4 2.0GHz or equivalent, GeForce4 Titanium 4200 or better"
Doom III looks shiny enough, but I doubt it'll revolutionize anything. I'm really waiting for Half-Life 2, which should run on slower computers no problem thanks to the engine's massive scalability; they have textures so large no video card can handle them at decent speeds, and they say they're going to release those well after the actual game, once the hardware exists.
Also, for people who complain about spending a lot, don't buy at the high end and make small upgrades regularly. There's a best buy in every generation. Right now the best buy is the Athlon XP 2500+ at $85, and until recently for video cards it was the Radeon 9500 Pro, which ATi stopped making because it was too fast. (The 9600 Pro is slower.) I've spent maybe $1200 over the last three years, a number I'm happy enough with, and my system is powerful enough.
... what cities are they going to use in it? I mean, will they keep going north or what? They've done postapocalyptic SoCal (in the first one) and postapocalyptic north California (in the second one), now what? Nobody wants to explore postapocalyptic Oregon.
I told people that the Quake III engine wasn't dead yet. Also, I note that it has outlived the old UT engine. Don't you all remember that one? And how it loved 3dfx Glide? Well, this just goes to show, good always triumphs over evil when it comes to graphics engines. Okay, except for Half-Life 1.
I always figured you could tell how old planets were by how universe-weary and crotchety they were. "You damn kids! Read the sign! STAY OFF THE GAS CLOUD!"
I guess red shift works, though. And it does fill the holes in my theory.
Out of curiosity, isn't it against the odds for the planet to still be around?
IDSA: We don't like piracy!
Slashdot: Boooo!
IDSA: We like violent video games!
Slashdot: Yay!
So... do we like IDSA?
The IDSA is only defending their own interests with hating piracy, whereas the RIAA attacks piracy because they're horrible people who sacrifice cute, furry animals with big, sad eyes to Satan. So yes, we like the IDSA, because the alternative is much worse.
They fixed their Windows drivers, so let's hope they can do the same for their Linux drivers. ATi's cards are fairly nice; certainly a little better than the dim-looking GeForce FX line, and I say that as someone who is completely neutral when it comes to corporations. (No reason to make generalizations about anything except their products. Unless they're Rambus, in which case they're evil.)
Amusingly enough, the only nVidia card I'd recommend buying right now is their Titanium 4200, the very card that taught them a valuable lesson about market segmentation. In case you missed the whole thing, the Ti4200, Ti4400, and Ti4600 were spaced about $50 apart, except they had a performance difference of maybe 2-4% between each of them. The Ti4400 cannabalized the Ti4600's sales, then the Ti4200 cannabalized the Ti4400's sales. (ATi learned this too with their Radeon 9500 Pro, a fast card selling for less than the Radeon 9700 despite the small speed difference. They were quicker to react than nVidia, though, and stopped the 9500 Pro's production run short. Now they make the Radeon 9600 Pro, which is considerably slower than the old 9500 Pro.)
Actually, officer, it is correct to treat corporations as collective entities. The author was perfectly correct when he used the third person plural with 3DLabs.
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Raw power, eh. That must be why the Radeon 9700 Pro, with a GPU clock of 325MHz, was equivalent to the GeForce FX 5800 Ultra, with a GPU clock of 500MHz. The Radeon 9700 Pro was so focused on raw power that it put out a whopping fifty-seven watts of heat to the 5800 Ultra's mere eighty! The 5800 Ultra had a far more sophisticated cooling system, of course, which consisted of a copper heatsink that stole a PCI slot and a banshee-like fan. Now that's what I call finesse! Do your homework before you post :P
The view of nVidia fanboys is this: Valve and ATi are in bed together and have been for a while, and Valve sabotaged Half-Life 2 so it wouldn't run on NV3x properly in return for a whole bundle of money from ATi. Never mind that this wouldn't make any business sense-- you see, Majestic 12 are the REAL ones behind this, and we can't possibly know what they have in store for the world.
The view of ATi fanboys is this: Anyone who bought a GeForce FX is an idiot, as they obviously should have had a stolen timedemo of Half-Life 2 on hand to benchmark with. If they didn't break into Valve's offices and steal the code, that's their own fault. Also, nVidia is clearly exactly like 3dfx, because they slipped up, JUST LIKE 3DFX! Dun dun dunnn!(The Quake/Quack scandal involving ATi never existed, of course.)
The view of most sane, rational human beings is that this is just another stage of the highly competitive video card market, and that anyone who spends time arguing over which company is better needs to be tranquilized, preferably with something meant for very large animals.
Why exactly would you enable full-screen antialiasing in Half-Life 2? "See, and if I set it to 8x, it's like PowerPoint with guns!"
Actually, the most popular graphics card for high-end gaming right now is the ATi Radeon 9700 series. But I do agree with your point, and I think they will too; companies don't like losing profits.
"Minimum requirements for playing the game after you install it: Pentium 4 2.0GHz or equivalent, GeForce4 Titanium 4200 or better"
Doom III looks shiny enough, but I doubt it'll revolutionize anything. I'm really waiting for Half-Life 2, which should run on slower computers no problem thanks to the engine's massive scalability; they have textures so large no video card can handle them at decent speeds, and they say they're going to release those well after the actual game, once the hardware exists.
Also, for people who complain about spending a lot, don't buy at the high end and make small upgrades regularly. There's a best buy in every generation. Right now the best buy is the Athlon XP 2500+ at $85, and until recently for video cards it was the Radeon 9500 Pro, which ATi stopped making because it was too fast. (The 9600 Pro is slower.) I've spent maybe $1200 over the last three years, a number I'm happy enough with, and my system is powerful enough.
He's like George Lucas, except talented!
All right, that's mean. I take it back. But you have to admit, he's done an awfully good job, no matter how much he probably cries at night.
... or does someone ask this every time there's a market downturn?
Would firebombing the RIAA count as self defense?
... what cities are they going to use in it? I mean, will they keep going north or what? They've done postapocalyptic SoCal (in the first one) and postapocalyptic north California (in the second one), now what? Nobody wants to explore postapocalyptic Oregon.
I told people that the Quake III engine wasn't dead yet. Also, I note that it has outlived the old UT engine. Don't you all remember that one? And how it loved 3dfx Glide? Well, this just goes to show, good always triumphs over evil when it comes to graphics engines. Okay, except for Half-Life 1.
I always figured you could tell how old planets were by how universe-weary and crotchety they were. "You damn kids! Read the sign! STAY OFF THE GAS CLOUD!" I guess red shift works, though. And it does fill the holes in my theory. Out of curiosity, isn't it against the odds for the planet to still be around?
IDSA: We don't like piracy!
Slashdot: Boooo!
IDSA: We like violent video games!
Slashdot: Yay!
So... do we like IDSA?
The IDSA is only defending their own interests with hating piracy, whereas the RIAA attacks piracy because they're horrible people who sacrifice cute, furry animals with big, sad eyes to Satan. So yes, we like the IDSA, because the alternative is much worse.
Seriously, can we go back to using TV as a scapegoat for the results of bad parenting? It's not like there's anything good on.
They fixed their Windows drivers, so let's hope they can do the same for their Linux drivers. ATi's cards are fairly nice; certainly a little better than the dim-looking GeForce FX line, and I say that as someone who is completely neutral when it comes to corporations. (No reason to make generalizations about anything except their products. Unless they're Rambus, in which case they're evil.)
Amusingly enough, the only nVidia card I'd recommend buying right now is their Titanium 4200, the very card that taught them a valuable lesson about market segmentation. In case you missed the whole thing, the Ti4200, Ti4400, and Ti4600 were spaced about $50 apart, except they had a performance difference of maybe 2-4% between each of them. The Ti4400 cannabalized the Ti4600's sales, then the Ti4200 cannabalized the Ti4400's sales. (ATi learned this too with their Radeon 9500 Pro, a fast card selling for less than the Radeon 9700 despite the small speed difference. They were quicker to react than nVidia, though, and stopped the 9500 Pro's production run short. Now they make the Radeon 9600 Pro, which is considerably slower than the old 9500 Pro.)
Actually, officer, it is correct to treat corporations as collective entities. The author was perfectly correct when he used the third person plural with 3DLabs.