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The Star Wars Alphabet Project

An anonymous reader writes "A ship for every *other* letter in the alphabet. Jon Palmer is creating a Star Wars fighter out of LEGO for every letter in the alphabet (minus X,Y,B,A,E and V). He has about 5 to go. Check out the project on From Bricks to Bothans." I have to admit, some of these look even cooler than the ships created for the newer Star Wars movies.

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  1. Fonts? by T-Kir · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How long before a font set will come out with the fighter characters? That would be quite nice!

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    1. Re:Fonts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      parent is link to tubgirl.

    2. Re:Fonts? by Jellybob · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that... read it just in time to hit my back button!

    3. Re:Fonts? by usotsuki · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nice. Note: Never trust TinyURL.

      Instead try this legitimate link.

      -uso.

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    4. Re:Fonts? by kasperd · · Score: 1

      Never trust TinyURL.

      That depends on who posts the tinurl link. In that particular case the link should be avoided. But there is for example nothing wrong with 6cr. I do however see no reason for using tinyurl for slashdot comments. Tinyurl is nice for usenet, but on slashdot you should rather use the final url.

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    5. Re:Fonts? by kasperd · · Score: 0

      Parent is link to tubgirl.

      That is not true.

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    6. Re:Fonts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is not true.

      You've got a bloody cheek. It most certainly is tubgirl, and people like you give slashdot a bad name. Asshole.

  2. S.... by Illserve · · Score: 4, Funny

    Looks like he gave up without even trying on that one....

    1. Re:S.... by nounderscores · · Score: 4, Funny

      unfortunately true. I would have thought that the sith S wing would have looked a bit like a wasp, with a curled over thorax and a canted back abdomen.

      Great job on the other letters though.

      I'd really love to see a stop motion animated movie of these guys in action fighting for the old republic.

    2. Re:S.... by duffhuff · · Score: 3, Insightful

      From the article:
      The LL487 S-Wing is so old it makes the Y-WING look new. The ship has a very mysterious past and little is written about it in the old republic archives.

      So it looks like that because the ship is very old, not because of a cop-out. That still doesn't make much sense (Ships in Eps 1&2 look much different), but maybe that was the style at the time?

    3. Re:S.... by azaroth42 · · Score: 1

      Look at it again and read the comment at the bottom.

      S is for Shuttle.

      --Azaroth

    4. Re:S.... by mscheid · · Score: 1

      Nooo the S-Wing is the coolest, especially with the LEGO package!
      But perhaps it's just me, the space cruiser was also my first lego set! :-))

    5. Re:S.... by glyph42 · · Score: 0

      The 'S' is for 'Sucks'.

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    6. Re:S.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      remember that episodes 4,5,6 were after the clone wars, which destroyed alot of technology and other such things. (i've read an interview with lucas himself who talked about this... ) episodes 1 & 2 and even 3 have awesome technology because they were in the midst of a technology revolution.

    7. Re:S.... by Goronguer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Making a S-Wing is easy . . . and FUN! Just follow these simple instructions.

      First, make an "S". Then add a more different "S". Then add some consummate "V"s. And . . .

      You're right. "S" is for "Sucks". Better start over . . .

      </tribute to the Bros. Chaps>

    8. Re:S.... by kisrael · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Re: the original comment....Yeah, well, it's not like the "B"-wing is very B-ish either... (what does that stand for, bomber maybe?) it goes from I shape to T shape...

      Anyway, according to Star Wars lore, the rise of the Emporer was a time of great increasing boxiness in the fighters and such, as hand-tooled craftsmanship gave way to more factory friendly designs. So an old ship should look more organic (ala the Naboo fighter) and not less.

      Or not. I'm sure there would be tons of exceptions either way, and of course it has more to do with F/X technology than anything else...

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    9. Re:S.... by HotSIag · · Score: 1

      S... is for Stealth. It's top of the line.

    10. Re:S.... by Kumazemi · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah S is a nod to 487 The 'S' was for Space. But I'm actually working on a 'real' S-Wing now: Crappy Sketch. -jon

    11. Re:S.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trogdor strikes again!

    12. Re:S.... by adjusting · · Score: 1

      B is for blade.

    13. Re:S.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always like to compare the evolution of Lucas' ships the differences between old Cadillacs and Chevys and Fords of the 50's to the boxy factory friendly toyotas, subarus, etc. of the 70's and 80's.

      The fins, the chrome, the style... it got lost around that time... I think that may be the easy explanation to rationalize the CG of the new movies.

  3. Poor guy. by Mr.+Self+estruct · · Score: 5, Funny

    When you're 40, and all you do every day is build lego starwars ships... you really have to step back, and take a long hard look at your life.

    1. Re:Poor guy. by c.emmertfoster · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...says someone on Slashdot.

      "There's nothing more exhilarating than pointing out the shortcomings of others, is there?"

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    2. Re:Poor guy. by Mr.+Self+estruct · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't think coming online for a few minutes to make fun of a guy is the same thing as devoting your life to make LEGO STARWARS models. Not only put them together.. but design each letter of the alphabet.

    3. Re:Poor guy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Why mod him down? I tend to agree... Making lego models for starwars ships all named after letters of the alphabet (which, by the way, is fucking retarded... A-Wing, B-Wing, Christ, got much imagination Lucas? You hack.) is pretty fucking lame, and really doesn't compare to reading a website.

      On the other hand though, his designs are pretty cool, even more than the actual ones made for the movies.

    4. Re:Poor guy. by c.emmertfoster · · Score: 1

      He wasn't moderated down, his posts are zero by default from poor karma.

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    5. Re:Poor guy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you look at his comment history, you see the poor guy posted 8 comments. His second comment got moderated as -1 troll, and that is enough to drop him to posting at 0. Funny moderations don't increase karma, so his +8 funny total is worthless. He got a -1 overrated moderation on the parent post also, so he's already at -2 karma. For someone who started posting frequently just 2 days ago, I think he's getting a raw deal.

    6. Re:Poor guy. by broeman · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think it is very sad to go to slashdot for a few minutes to make fun of a guy. At least the Starwars guy inspires me with his great designs (not as a Starwars fan (which I am not!), but as a professional designer), while you just told that you are a karmawhore.

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    7. Re:Poor guy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, people who choose their nicks from titles of nine inch nails songs are sad.

    8. Re:Poor guy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "When you're 40, and all you do every day is build lego starwars ships... you really have to step back, and take a long hard look at your life."
      Are you kidding? The game is over and he won.

    9. Re:Poor guy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for saying what a lot of us were thinking...

    10. Re:Poor guy. by RickHunter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah. I mean, at least this guy's being creative and enjoying himself! In my book, that's far, far more worthwhile than sitting on Slashdot and mocking other people's hobbies.

    11. Re:Poor guy. by sharkey · · Score: 5, Funny
      A-Wing, B-Wing, Christ, got much imagination Lucas?

      He's the Microsoft of the Sci-Fi world. But you have to admit, the /home-Wing, /usr-Wing and the /etc-Wing don't sound that impressive.

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    12. Re:Poor guy. by Skord · · Score: 1

      There's nothing lame about it. I mean, wouldn't YOU love to make a living from doing that?!?

    13. Re:Poor guy. by vgaphil · · Score: 1

      Christ, got much imagination Lucas? You hack.

      He's got a couple billion dollars, I'd say he has a pretty good imagination.

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    14. Re:Poor guy. by dreadlocks · · Score: 1

      Agreed, He may have done this for the fun of it, we may never really know. I happen to play Lego with my Kids primarily because it is a good way to develop spatial thinking (plus it can be fun). If we see a picture of some spaceship, we try to recreate it (if we have decent pieces). It is amazing to see what people can build after simply visualizing it. It is almost like a good painter putting a picture in his mind on canvas.

    15. Re:Poor guy. by joebok · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When you are 40, and all you do every day is come in to work, grind away for the corporation, go home too exhausted to play with legos or anything else is when you really have to step back and take a long hard look at your life.

    16. Re:Poor guy. by JebusIsLord · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What the hell does that have to do with anything?

      The Spice Girls have some bling too... does that make them creative geniuses as well?

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    17. Re:Poor guy. by Kumazemi · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hear hear! The thing is I'm actually not even a 'crazy' SW fan myself. I just have a healthy love for it at best. The whole project was actually supposed to be a kind of design joke anyway, but definitely grew a life of its own. And if anything I don't have enough time! Thanks, -Jon

    18. Re:Poor guy. by Mr.+Self+estruct · · Score: 0, Interesting

      I'm not knew to slashdot, i've been reading it for years, but i'm fairly new to posting in it. I don't 100% understand the entire karma/moderation point system. My karma is terrible... and i'm not really sure why. Oh well, i'm just gonna try and post something funny once and a while, and hope to get a chuckle.

    19. Re:Poor guy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But you have to admit, the /home-Wing, /usr-Wing and the /etc-Wing don't sound that impressive.

      That's why I map them to /home-Wang, /usr-Wang, and /etc-Wang.

    20. Re:Poor guy. by fpp · · Score: 1

      It's actually not Lucas who names the ships, it's his designers. So it's actually his designers who are hacks.

    21. Re:Poor guy. by Mr.+Self+estruct · · Score: 0

      Wanting to get a chuckle out of people makes me a karma whore? I don't even completely UNDERSTAND this karma... He's a guy, who devotes his life to Lego's. It's hilarious.

  4. Wouldn't be complete without... by pen · · Score: 4, Funny
    ... a link to Lego's Star Wars page.

    Also, try this one.

    1. Re:Wouldn't be complete without... by a.koepke · · Score: 1

      If you are using a non-ie browser the page loads with the Javascript error "document.all is not a function". They have used IE specific code... if you want to access the site using Netscape use this link

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    2. Re:Wouldn't be complete without... by Tower · · Score: 1

      Either one seems to work in Mozilla...

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    3. Re:Wouldn't be complete without... by shadowbearer · · Score: 1

      Jebsus, what's next a Death Star? :-)

      That page is pretty cool, tho.

      SB

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    4. Re:Wouldn't be complete without... by Kompressor · · Score: 1

      Must... resist urge... to preorder star... destroyer...

      2K bricks. That'll keep me from chasing females for far, far too long.

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  5. What's special about those 6 letters?? by jkrise · · Score: 0, Funny

    'Reserved' for aliens or something?

    Or maybe new Operating Systems from Microsoft? Either way, interesting.

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    1. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by Xpilot · · Score: 5, Informative

      The X-Wings, Y-Wings, A-Wings and B-Wings can be seen in the movies, so "official" designs exist already. The E-Wing is found in the comics, and I think the V-Wing is also somewhere in the expanded universe, so it exists in a "semi-official" way. So they designed ships for the rest of the alphabet.

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    2. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by samhalliday · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      how can you be on /. and not know the answer to this question as if it were the only thing you were taught as a child!!!! :-|

    3. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by Zocalo · · Score: 4, Informative

      IIRC, the V Wing was in one of the computer games from Lucas Arts, "Rogue Squadron", and also cropped up in some of the books as well. One quick Google later and it would appear that there are also K-Wings, T-Wings and W-Wings already as well according to this page.

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    4. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by burns210 · · Score: 1, Funny

      "The X-Wings, Y-Wings, A-Wings and B-Wings can be seen in the movies, so "official" designs exist already. The E-Wing is found in the comics, and I think the V-Wing is also somewhere in the expanded universe, so it exists in a "semi-official" way."

      There are few places on this planet where a person would have as thurough an answer as that, Slashdot is one of them. :)

    5. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by jkrise · · Score: 1, Funny

      how can you be on /. and not know the answer to this question as if it were the only thing you were taught as a child!!!! :-

      My internal parser core dumped while reading this complex sentence. Lemme split it up..

      how can you be on /. and not know the answer to this question

      followed by
      as if it were the only thing you were taught as a child!!!! :-|

      ha.. if it were the only thing I'd been taught as a child, well.. I would've known this...

      and BTW, is this the only thing children are taught in the US? Wars, tanks and weapons? No wonder then, why society is so screwed up and values so messed up..

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    6. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by Xpilot · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sadly enough, I posted that entirely from memory.

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    7. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by gantzm · · Score: 1

      Wars, tanks and weapons?
      Nah, they also teach us how to shoot a human torso at a thousand yards. Sadly most kids fail this portion of their education. These kids revert back to the "Spray and Pray" method and end up causing excessive calateral damage.

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    8. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Funny

      Okay, explain something to me I never understood...why is the "B-wing" called that? It's not even close to looking like a "B". If anything it's a lowercase "t".

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    9. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wouldn't a TIE fighter be an H-Wing (or an I-Wing if it's trying to avoid a laser blast from the Millennium Falcon at the time)?

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    10. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    11. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by arcanumas · · Score: 0

      You deserve a free Slashdot subscription :)

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    12. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by samhalliday · · Score: 1
      don't you just love it when some smartass needs a comment explained to them:

      all readers of /. are geeks, right? geek watch star wars... in fact, for the certain age group (which i fall into), we GREW UP with star wars as our favourite movie... to not know that X, Y, B and A wings are already in the original movies is blasphemy!!

      why do you assume i am american? unable to click on a user link?

    13. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by JWW · · Score: 1

      Don't feel bad man, the only thing you did is beat me to it.

    14. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by Blondie-Wan · · Score: 1
      If you think about the "alphabet" fighters in the movies, they're all Rebel ships; one might surmise it's part of a Rebel Alliance naming convention (that matches ships with letters when there's a convenient similarity, as with the A-, X-, and Y-Wing fighters, but that also assigns letters when there's not a particularly strong visual connection, as with the B-Wing fighter).

      Imperial fighters are all named as some sort of "TIE" something; TIE stands for twin ion engine. Like the Alliance, the Empire appears to have adopted a given naming convention and applied it across its entire fighter family even when it's not actually correct, sacrificing accuracy for consistency (not all "TIE" craft actually have just two engines; some have more).

    15. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by Kelz · · Score: 1

      Dont know about the K-wings and W-Wings, but T-wings made their debut as the sequel to the z95 headhunter in the 2nd Tie Fighter expansion.

    16. Re:What's special about those 6 letters?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I actually remember that. Please shoot me now. Why do we remember these things? :-)

      Seriously, TIE and its expansions were frickin' awesome. I think it's a toss-up between TIE+expansions and Sim City 2000+expansions when it comes to "total number of hours of my life wasted."

      What twelve year-old nerd *doesn't* want bad-assed Imperial symbols tattooed on his arm?

  6. 5 more, sure. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, now that it's been posted on /., the world will never know what the last 5 look like.

  7. a... b... c... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't read Lego, you insensitive clod !

  8. lego star wars? by sourcejedi · · Score: 2, Funny

    These are not the mindstorms you are looking for.. ..Move along May the Source be with you

  9. Almost as impressive as... by pen · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...this!

    1. Re:Almost as impressive as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parent post is a link to The Goatse Man.

    2. Re:Almost as impressive as... by gabba_gabba_hey · · Score: 1

      too bad they didn't go as far as to register legoatse.cx - it's available ;) . although, funny as this site is, perhaps it doesn't warrent shelling out $8.75 a year. I'd cough it up were i not so fitfully employed at the moment. good stuff...

    3. Re:Almost as impressive as... by sfraggle · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I seriously thought about registering the domain but when I last looked the .cx domains were fairly expensive. Also, I'm a cheap bastard :)

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    4. Re:Almost as impressive as... by pen · · Score: 1

      You mean $44, right? Christmas Island domains are not cheap.

    5. Re:Almost as impressive as... by gabba_gabba_hey · · Score: 1

      Sheesh, I stand corrected. $160 for 2 years. ouch!

    6. Re:Almost as impressive as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ommagawd, he's got FOUR bungholes!

  10. the q wing reminds me of the quake Q by cyrax777 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    that or a quad damage from quake 1.

    1. Re:the q wing reminds me of the quake Q by Caleb+Rutan · · Score: 1
      Perhaps that is because, as the builder says on one of the q-wing pages:
      This ship is directly inspired by the Quake symbol and the Sith Infiltrator. I wanted to make one truly evil ship for the project and the letter Q seemed to be a nice choice.
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    2. Re:the q wing reminds me of the quake Q by rootofevil · · Score: 2, Funny

      thanks captain obvious! what will we do without you?

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  11. Do all those pieces actually exist? by farnerup · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sorry for acting like an old fart, but wasn't Lego more fun when there was a limited number of different pieces in a limited number of colors? Nowadays, the sets consist of like three large custom-made painted pieces that you put together in ten seconds. The point of Lego is that you can build anything from a few simple parts.

    1. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by lightcycle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Ever notice that the lack of build-anything-lego coincides with charts being dominated by brainless lolita pop and one crappy Hollywood movie remake after another being spammed out? Lego isn't the only thing using small numbers of custom-made pieces nowadays. I sense some kind of connection.

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    2. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Real Lego artists build from molecules.

    3. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by al_fruitbat · · Score: 2, Informative
      Yes, all those pieces do exist. A lot of them come from the official Star Wars lego, which does indeed feature a lot more custom bits.

      The really geek chique about the new ship designs is that the S-wing looks to be made entirely out of 'old skool' space lego pieces, circa 1980s ;-)

      Oh, and without custom moulded lego pieces we'd never have had the undersea set, and thus legocthulhu!

    4. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The great thing about Lego is that you can make stuff like planes and cars which literally smash into pieces when you crash them.

      My parents' staircase was the proving ground for many doomed dragsters and nuclear bombers.

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    5. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by Ian+Jefferies · · Score: 2, Informative

      The really geek chique about the new ship designs is that the S-wing looks to be made entirely out of 'old skool' space lego pieces, circa 1980s ;-)

      Hmmm... lets see...

      The Q wing is the quake logo.

      The C-wing is a kilrathi fighter.

      The G-wing looks like its a Starfury from Babylon 5.

      And the O-ring is just silly :)

      Many of them do look pretty cool though.

      Ian.

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    6. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The models publicly held to be ideal used to be the gigantic things they'd show every once in a while in National Geographic, and which some toy stores purchased. Big as a man. I suspect the appeal of these old-school models dissipated not as the first young Lego lovers aged, but as we all grew used to the pixel. A Mickey Mouse approximated with small squarish shapes doesn't have the novelty and visual impact that it used to. It's just aliased, so what's the point? It feels as though one might as well have a simple scan-converting robot build such a thing, although those who have built gigantic models know there's more to it.

      The point of Lego isn't that you can build anything from a few simple parts at all. You could far more easily build "anything" with an Erector Set, as long as you can tolerate that it may be large, and a very large model in Erector pieces is relatively affordable. Erector Sets are not nearly as popular as Lego because the real point of Lego is to play around with the edges of perceptual space, where one has too few bricks to mathematically approximate a model and yet one makes a model that somehow looks right.

      Giuseppe Arcimboldo was clearly playing a similar game with vegetables, fish, and other ordinary objects in the mid 1500's. Does his use of "custom pieces," make his game less challenging? On the contrary, he tried to depict far more with his vegatables than seems possible at first impression. His work is well worth checking out. "The Cook," in particular, is the stuff of nightmares.

      Imagining that people are out there buying Lego train sets, putting together a train, taking it apart, putting it together again and having less fun than you did when you had basic blocks as a kid is pretty condescending, and it's typical geek think. Where challenges are gone because of new tools, there are always new challenges open because of the new tools. The people who are merely using the new tools to easily do what used to be an interesting challenge, over and over, are the people who used to be doing something else easy over and over. Interns or lifers, they're either oppressed by or satisfied with repetitive tasks as usual.

    7. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      You reminded me of something I saw in a book once, describing modularisation or OO "like Lego - the old sort where you could make more than one thing".
      Perhaps the more simple, versatile bricks were under the GPL, which prevents linking to them?

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    8. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by Eunuchswear · · Score: 5, Funny
      And the O-ring is just silly
      If only NASA had thought so.
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    9. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by kisrael · · Score: 1

      Lego is getting better, actually, check out it's Designer series.

      But things aren't so blocky...instead there's a focus on joints, and things that move in interesting ways (love the new clicky joint pieces)

      I hear a rumor that normal Lego spacecraft are being surpressed while this whole star wars thing is going on...Lucas doesn't like the competition.

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    10. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by CheechBG · · Score: 1

      and the G-Wing looks like a tug from Independence War 2.

    11. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 1

      I would have expected the O-Ring to be a DS9 knockoff

    12. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by brlancer · · Score: 1
      And the O-ring is just silly
      If only NASA had thought so.

      That's just mean. I bet you take candy from children and try to make Bush spell mayonnaise.

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    13. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by naarok · · Score: 1

      I agree completely. I used to love lego (still do actually), but when I go to look for kits more my kids, nothing excites me. The pieces just don't provide the flexability they once did. You have to put it together like designed and no other way.

      I remember a space station that kind of reminds me of an Apollo lander on steroids. Anyway, it was built exclusively from "standard" blocks. It had a few pieces that were smooth on top, a few hinges and lots of 2x2s that were slanted on top. I could build anything from that. Then a got a spaceship with lots of flat triangular pieces. Still good flexability, but not as much. Now, I see wing panels where the whole wing is one panel. Where's the flexability in that.

      OK, so now I'm ranting and tripping down memory lane. Ah well. Time to pull out my ... (I mean my kids) lego.

    14. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      Not in public though. Once in Kindergarten I smashed a lego escape pod as it crashed into the ground. I had to go sit in the red square for my wanton destructive behavious :(

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    15. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is one reason that Mega Bloks rock these days. They're cheaper and are made with far fewer specialized parts. I picked up a 1700+ piece aircraft carrier for $30 at a discount store and I think the only specialized pieces were the F-14's that came with it.

    16. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by Jardine · · Score: 1

      I had one of the space shuttle kits. The engines were their own pieces. Man, you could put those on any vehicle you made and it would be cooler.

      You made a motorhome? Here, put these on the back of it. Now it's the motorhome from Spaceballs.

      You want to build racecars? Well my racecar has shuttle engines on the back. It's way faster than yours.

      Lego was fun stuff.

    17. Re:Do all those pieces actually exist? by InsaneFolder · · Score: 1

      Actually, Lego seems to be going back to their original philosophy with some of their new sets. I just got some of the "Inventor" and "Designer" sets, both of which contain basically standard pieces with instructions for a bunch of models, as well as ideas for a lot more. The Inventor sets are more towards Technics, with gears and moving parts.

      The fact that they got a college student buying Legos again says something, too.

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  12. And as a followup... by Jonathan · · Score: 4, Funny

    He is going to create Imperial fighters for ever piece of formal wear except bow ties...

    1. Re:And as a followup... by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      Oh man, that's funny. Someone give the man some mod points.

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    2. Re:And as a followup... by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1

      The cumberbund fighter, with a formidible-looking escort of cufflink fighters. The top hat fighter! Oh, the possibilities!

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    3. Re:And as a followup... by tonyt · · Score: 1

      TIE is an acronym for Twin Ion Engine. How did you get a user account here without knowing that?

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  13. All from the top and side... by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why is the X-Wing the only fightewr that looks like an letter from the back?

    1. Re:All from the top and side... by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

      because "an" is used for ease of flow in speech when the word after it begins with a vowel, that's why.

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    2. Re:All from the top and side... by Cyno01 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Y-wing from the top, A-wing from the top and i guess the B-wing looks like a lower case 'b' from the side, but i think thats stretching it a bit.

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    3. Re:All from the top and side... by 91degrees · · Score: 0

      I really think that if you want to criticise my typing, you should learn how to capitalise.

    4. Re:All from the top and side... by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

      how the fuck is that in any way relevant? You're a fucking moron, you fucking moron.

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    5. Re:All from the top and side... by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      If you're going to criticise my typing, I'm going to criticise your punctuation.

      What's with t the repetiition? Unable to come up with a differnt insult?

    6. Re:All from the top and side... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How was your complaint about his grammar in any way relevant?

    7. Re:All from the top and side... by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

      Then please, criticise my punctuation- an aspect completely unrelated to capitalization.

      and why the fuck would I bother giving you two seperate insults? Guess what, geniusoid: it wasnt repetition, and you're a fucking moron. It was one, single insult, which had a comma in it.
      You must have been shit to be around in preschool- "Moo? What's with the repitition? Couldnt come up with another letter? Why not 'Mao'? Huh?"
      fucking idiot...

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    8. Re:All from the top and side... by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Then please, criticise my punctuation- an aspect completely unrelated to capitalization.

      Okay. Your punctuation sucks as well you worthless little turd. I don't give a flying fuck. It still makes you a hypocrite. You were the one who started the flame war.

      Guess what, geniusoid: it wasnt repetition,

      You said "You're a fucking moron, you fucking moron."

      Note the use of the phrase "fucking moron" twice. It's called repetition. You see, you repeated it. Maybe I should repeat this sentence since your comprehension is so limited that you seem unable to grasp any concept that isn't repeatedly hammered home again and again.

      You must have been shit to be around in preschool- "Moo? What's with the repitition? Couldnt come up with another letter? Why not 'Mao'? Huh?"

      Well, that's an agreed spelling. You on the other hand seemed to want to insult me. In that case, just calling me a "fucking moron" would have been sufficient. Following up with the same insult again makes you look unimaginitive and pathetic. I'm just trying to be helpful here. If you want to look like a small pathetic half-wit, then you are quite entitled to.

      I've noticed you seem to resort to using lame insults against everyone. I really think you should get professional help. You are showing clear signes of an inferiority complex. Really you should try to feel more positive about yourself than trying to bring everyone else down. It's a much more positive manner of self improvement.

  14. waggle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, go look at these photos, I promise you will feel better afterwards :)

    1. Re:waggle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if she's just some kind of strange hermaphrodite; her body and face look as if they've been female her whole life.

  15. what a by andy666 · · Score: 1

    NERD!

    (i love it, of course.)

  16. WOW! by SlashdotMakesMeKool · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is so exiciting! It's done wonders to break down the public perception of slashdotters!

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    1. Re:WOW! by gabba_gabba_hey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think everyone might be flattering themselves a bit to think that there is a public perception of slashdotters :) .

    2. Re:WOW! by don_carnage · · Score: 1

      Thank you -- if I had mod points, your post would be at +1 Insightful right now.

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  17. Names by littleghoti · · Score: 1

    I would have thought he could have come up with some more original names. A-wing, b-wing, c-wing, d-wing etc. A few f- fighters or q-bombers at least.

    1. Re:Names by ipxodi · · Score: 1

      I can hear it now:
      Rogue Leader: "Bogies at 2 o'clock!"
      Luke: "Oh -- not more of those F'n Fighters!"

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  18. Wings In Space by turgid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I never understood why spacecraft need wings if they are operating outside an atmosphere. However, if they're designed for atmospheric flight they will need wings. None of the Star Wars designs based on letters of the Roman alphabet look particularly practical or efficient. Obviously they're just a gimmick. Star Wars is junk science fiction. It's really fantasy and religious myth. Mind you, it's all good fun, and the muppet characters like Yoda are cute.

    1. Re:Wings In Space by mesmartyoudumb · · Score: 0
      I never understood why spacecraft need wings if they are operating outside an atmosphere. However, if they're designed for atmospheric flight they will need wings


      I find your lack of faith disturbing! Most of the smaller ships in Star Wars are utilized on planets as well as in space, they need those wings. The Star Wars universe is very detailed,and even the most anal of us will enjoy it.
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    2. Re:Wings In Space by sql*kitten · · Score: 3, Flamebait

      Star Wars is junk science fiction. It's really fantasy and religious myth. Mind you, it's all good fun, and the muppet characters like Yoda are cute.

      Star Wars fans have a peculiar attitude to the universe. George Lucas decided, probably after no more than a second's thought, to call an imaginary spaceship the "X-wing". Possibly the shape of it even came after he'd come up with the futuristic-sounding name. But the fans seized on it and decided that there must therefore be a spaceship for every other letter of the alphabet. It's like Lucas said "turbo" as in "turbo laser" because he just wanted a word that in the popular imagination meant "powerful", and he said "parsec" because he thought it sounded like a space-second and the fans obsessively retrofit details onto these tiny, trivial things to make them of vast importance. Ask a Star Wars fan about how Han Solo made a voyage in however many parsecs and prepare to boggle at the convoluted thought process behind the explanation.

      The reason I mention it is because I haven't seen this type of behavior in other sci-fi fans... Star Trek fans don't flesh out throwaway comments into things of vast significance in the Star Trek universe. Like, they didn't decided that because there was something called "dilithium" that there must also be "quadlithium", "pentalithium" and so on. Babylon 5 fans don't extrapolate the existance of the "Maxbari" from the "Minbari". But this is what Star Wars fans do!

    3. Re:Wings In Space by p3d0 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I never understood why spacecraft need wings if they are operating outside an atmosphere. However, if they're designed for atmospheric flight they will need wings.
      Have you seen the movies? All the ships can take off and land from the ground.

      Ever notice that the space shuttle has wings?

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    4. Re:Wings In Space by enjo13 · · Score: 1

      Star Trek fans don't flesh out throwaway comments into things of vast significance in the Star Trek universe

      Your kidding right?

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    5. Re:Wings In Space by Sirch · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The reason I mention it is because I haven't seen this type of behavior in other sci-fi fans... Star Trek fans don't flesh out throwaway comments into things of vast significance in the Star Trek universe.

      That's probably because there are (currently) only 5 Star Wars movies (plus one Christmas Special which I haven't seen yet), yet there are something like 10 Star Trek movies (I can't be bothered to actually count), 5 Star Trek live-action series and a Star Trek animated series (I'm not counting the Endor series of Star Wars spinoffs, coz that would be silly).

      The Star Wars fans have much less material to go by, so they have to concentrate their efforts into those outlets. Hence every line is important to them, because it is one of a limited edition of lines in the Star Wars franchise. The Star Trek fans learn Klingon instead.
    6. Re:Wings In Space by fenix+down · · Score: 5, Funny

      Because when these dogfight it looks cool. When these dogfight, it looks like squid fucking.

    7. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Your kidding right?

      That's a statement, not a question. Unless you meant "You're", perhaps?

    8. Re:Wings In Space by Zebbers · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      actually it's a question because of the FUCKING QUESTION MARK. He just misspelled or used the improper form of "you're". Big deal. Your an asshole. ;)

    9. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Ask a Star Wars fan about how Han Solo made a voyage in however many parsecs and prepare to boggle at the convoluted thought process behind the explanation.
      He didn't - he was just talking technobabble to impress an old man and a farmboy.
    10. Re:Wings In Space by Woek · · Score: 1

      The surfaces on the spaceborn craft don't primarily function as wings for atmosphere, but are 'S-foils'. They generate normal forces that allow the craft to manoeuvre in space. They are a sort of reactionless propulsion, and are based on the same principle as hyperspace engines and gravity plating.

    11. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "That's probably because there are (currently) only 5 Star Wars movies (plus one Christmas Special which I haven't seen yet), yet there are something like 10 Star Trek movies (I can't be bothered to actually count), 5 Star Trek live-action series and a Star Trek animated series (I'm not counting the Endor series of Star Wars spinoffs, coz that would be silly)."

      However, they are, roughly speaking, equally shit. You`d think with modern graphics we wouldn't need all aliens to be human actors in fancy dress. Whats with all the humanoids? Why no use graphics and have something different for a change. And what's with the Star Trek Convention, where all creatures speak English? What's that about? Subtitles, anyway? Lets lose the cheesy morality from the Star Trek spin-offs - sometimes I feel like i've tuned into Mork and fucking Mindy.

      At least, as you pointed out, you can just watch (or not) a Star Wars movie every year or so and not have to worry about it. You can't bloody escape from the Star Trek franchise.

    12. Re:Wings In Space by justin_schoeman · · Score: 1

      If you read the book (A New Hope - George Lucas), you will see that the 'wings' are mounting points for the stabilisers and/or engines. The wing configuration changes on the X wing to give a more manouverable configuration (due to large moment arms in all directrions). The 'wings' have no relation to what we know of as wings, serving no aerodynamic function, and are formally referred to as "attack foils" (I think... too long since I read the book).

    13. Re:Wings In Space by turgid · · Score: 1

      Well I guess that's me told then. :-)

    14. Re:Wings In Space by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      No, it's the writers that do that...

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    15. Re:Wings In Space by mblase · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I never understood why spacecraft need wings if they are operating outside an atmosphere.

      If you look at the ships, the wings are clearly not intended for aerodynamics. Their main purpose is to carry guns, and expanding the X-wings turns two gun turrets into four.

      But they look like wings, and they're shaped like wings, so you may as well call them wings.

    16. Re:Wings In Space by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      You must see the christmas special. It's truly dreadful. I have thus far been unable to watch it to the end.

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    17. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Talking of the "f-word", scientists now say that doing it on your own may help to prevent cancer.

    18. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Actually, some of us learn Vulcan instead.

    19. Re:Wings In Space by billtom · · Score: 1

      Have you seen the movies? All the ships can take off and land from the ground.

      Ever notice that the space shuttle has wings?


      Counter example: The Millenium Falcon takes off and lands from the ground but it doesn't have wings.

      So we can conclude that wings are not necessary for atmospheric flight or landing in the Star Wars universe.

      So the real questions is why do some ships in SW have wings and some don't?

    20. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Like, they didn't decided that because there was something called "dilithium" that there must also be "quadlithium", "pentalithium" and so on."

      Didn't you see the episode with the "trilithium"?

    21. Re:Wings In Space by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 1

      "and are based on the same principle as hyperspace engines and gravity plating."

      You mean the "made up for the storyline" principle?

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    22. Re:Wings In Space by p3d0 · · Score: 1
      So the real questions is why do some ships in SW have wings and some don't?
      I guess it's a design decision. If you don't enter the atmosphere often, you may be better off optimizing the design for space travel. Maybe ships that can "make the jump to lightspeed" are better off round.
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    23. Re:Wings In Space by GrouchoMarx · · Score: 3, Informative

      Star Trek fans don't flesh out throwaway comments into things of vast significance in the Star Trek universe.

      Dude, you've clearly not seen what I do for fun.

      Why Warp Works, (or doesn't work).
      Star Trek Computers

      Born and raised a Trekie.

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    24. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Have you seen the movies? All the ships can take off and land from the ground.


      In all the movies that I've seen, the craft seem to take off like harriers and then transition to seemingly rocket powered flight w/o ever getting useful lift from the wings. (hint, look at the shape of the wings. They wouldn't provide lift anyway)

      My understanding of the "wings" on the X wing were that they existed to get the engines spread out in a way that would allow maximum manuverability. Also, it looks cool to have the guns out on the wingtips.


      Ever notice that the space shuttle has wings?


      Yeah. And that's been working out just great. Right?

    25. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the real questions is why do some ships in SW have wings and some don't?

      For the same reason that some planes have jet engines and some have propellers.

    26. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah, geek-out time. Have you noticed the size of the Millenium Falcon? It seems plausiable that whatever lift system it uses takes up more space/power than a x-wing can provide.

    27. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I want explained is why does sound travel through space in the Star Wars universe?

    28. Re:Wings In Space by gamgee5273 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The Falcon is a freighter - it isn't designed for planetary flight (though it can take off and land), but rather hauling stuff to and fro. It just isn't a good ship to have on a planet.

      Same with the Slave I - no real wings (those flaps are supposedly a gravity stablizer/gyro of some sort) and I doubt Boba or Jango could properly fight with it on a planet.

      The ships with wings seem to be designed specifically for flight in an atmosphere or in space. Thinking about the video games, the only ship without traditional "wings" that I've used in an atmosphere is the Y-Wing (maybe those massive engines make up for that). Or the car, if you've played Rogue Leader with the cheats... ;)

    29. Re:Wings In Space by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      So the X-Wing and other winged rebel ships can't "make the jump to lightspeed" then? :-)

      How about the freakish B-Wing? Is that thing really meant to fly in an atmosphere?

      How about the A-Wing? No wings, but atmospheric flight isn't a problem.

      Maybe the planets from a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away all had very light atmospheres.

      Keep in mind that just about every scifi series falls victim to the "ships that look cool" trap. The shuttles in Star Trek are an odd design for atmospheric flight. Just look at Cowboy Bebop for a similar display in anime style.

      Only Babylon 5 really seemed to try and get things right -- the Star Furies could do little more than slightly penetrate a planet's atmosphere before losing control.

    30. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1
      I never understood why spacecraft need wings if they are operating outside an atmosphere.

      Same reason they have them on the AH-64, I guess: gotta have somewhere to hang the firepower...

      Mind you, it's all good fun, and the muppet characters like Yoda are cute.

      Cute, hmm? Cute, you say? Show you cute, I will.

      /me smoothly moves aside robe as light sabre flies effortlessly into... hand, performs Jedi-No-Kata at full speed (defying the laws of physics repeatedly) and, satisfied with his demonstration, nods sagely, takes out his walking stick, and hobbles away.

      And muppet like? The very idea that there could be even the slightest, most tenuous connection between the great Yoda and an irritating, pink, fabric pig is just preposterous.

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    31. Re:Wings In Space by turgid · · Score: 1
      an irritating, pink, fabric pig

      How dare you insult my childhood sweetheart!

    32. Re:Wings In Space by gooddope · · Score: 1

      Is this a contest of who can obsess over their odd sci-fi peccadillo better? Both groups are socially stunted. What better way to avoid interaction with other people of the same reality when you can obsess over the hot Klingon in Babylon 5? Just because some Star Wars fans obsess over the details a little more than Star Trek fans does NOT make Trekkies any less pathetic.

    33. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Star Wars fans have a peculiar attitude to the universe. George Lucas decided, probably after no more than a second's thought, to call an imaginary spaceship the "X-wing"... But the fans seized on it and decided that there must therefore be a spaceship for every other letter of the alphabet.

      Your hypothesis might make sense if there weren't A- and B-wing fighters in the original trilogy.

    34. Re:Wings In Space by Jerf · · Score: 4, Informative
      It's not half bad from an engineering point of view. Bear in mind I'm not a fanboy and so have no particular interest in "forcing" Star Wars to work. (In fact I tend to prefer ultra-hard sci-fi like A Fire In The Deep.)

      The requirement of being "space worthy" does not itself add any shape requirements to a spaceship. Many sci-fi spaceships are spheres, for maximum bang-for-the-buck surface area/enclosed volume ratio. Also due to limitations on materials. One of Vernor Vinges spacecraft described in Marooned In Realtime, for instance, was an assemblage of spheres, not even physically connected to each other (impossible due to other technological considerations).

      But Star Wars spacecraft aren't traditional spacecraft. The ones we see are typically combat craft, and that adds several concerns into the mix:
      • Mounting space: There must be space to mount weapons platforms, such as missles, turbolasers, ion cannons, and other things. A Spherical design is actually a little too efficient with the surface area in this case; you probably need more room then a Sphere would have left over, plus you'd be challenged to get spacing and angling right.
      • Reduced silhouette: You want to be able to present a reduced silhouette to the enemy, so you can be harder to hit. This means that there is some other angle with an increased silhouette, but the tradeoff is worthwhile, if you have an intelligent pilot. Again, a Sphere, or a random misshapen lump of metal, does not meet this criterion, and this strongly indicates a traditional aircraft-type design, with a limited number of thin protrusions and as small a main body as possible. (Of course this doesn't indicate exactly an aircraft; the B-Wing fits this just fine.)
      • Manueverability: You need to be manueverable. Whether you have air-like physics as in Star Wars, or real Newtonian physics in space, that indicates being able to turn quickly and focusing the thrust elsewhere. Again, random lumps of metal don't do this well. This forces a relatively short axis on the thrust line, so you don't get too much rotational inertia, again limiting your freedom of design.
      Add this all up and you aren't free to throw hunks of metal together.

      Most of the designs on that page aren't too bad, and thrust coming from off-axis is regrettably already established in Star Wars (B-Wings in particular look really wrong to me, the engines should be about 25% lower, unless the lower spike is entirely hollow, in which case it should not exist for other good reasons). Star Wars has already established high levels of technology, such that while we'd never build those ships, they make OK sense in that universe.

      Once you have these limited protrusions, you might as well go ahead and make them wing-like. All Star Wars craft have enough power that true wings are not necessary, in the sense of providing lift, but they can still provide valuable manueverability by acting as control surfaces in atmosphere. Also, since drag rises quite quickly, you still want to limit drag in a craft that will spend significant time in an atmosphere, as many, if not all, craft in Star Wars do. Again, "misshapen hunk of metal", while spaceworthy, doesn't help you here.

      All in all, while Star Wars craft are fanciful and deliberately made for aesthetic effect, they aren't too badly done, and harsh criticism of them, once you accept the aircraft-maneuverability "physics" of Star Wars, really isn't too justified. (Criticism of the physics is, but you have to at least admit they knew they were wrong and they were deliberately imitating WWII dogfights, which mitigates it a little; I find deliberate violation less annoying then accidental violation.)
    35. Re:Wings In Space by billtom · · Score: 1

      Well, we can rule out wings in space for maneuverability because the Falcon is shown to be at least as maneuverable as any other ship in space (e.g. asteroid field in Empire and Endor battle in Jedi).[1]

      As to atmospheric flight and battle maneuverability, there are unfortunately few examples to work with. But I think a telling point is that in the main atmospheric battle, Hoth, the Rebel Alliance didn't use X-wings (or any other of the space fighters). They used the snow speeders that had very small wings (and seemed to use those airbreak things for maneuvering). So I'm not sure that the movies bear out the idea that winged space fighters are winged for flight/maneuverability reasons, either in space or in an atmosphere.

      [1] Of course, we're not going to bother with the problematic real physics problems with this whole thread. This is Star Wars physics.

    36. Re:Wings In Space by anothermortal · · Score: 1

      At the risk of showing my geekness, I believe the Kessel run than Han solo refers to is a race that isn't about time so much as distance. The Kessel run has to do with skillful piloting through the black holes surrounding the Maw Cluster. (http://www.starwars.com/databank/location/kessel/ bts.html) Or, as said by George Lucas, it was just a brag that Obiwan saw right through.

    37. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not true. Obsessive Star Wars fans aren't as f****ed up as obsessive Star Trek fans.

    38. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. I think they're called "etheric rudders".

    39. Re:Wings In Space by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1

      in the main atmospheric battle, Hoth, the Rebel Alliance didn't use X-wings (or any other of the space fighters). They used the snow speeders that had very small wings (and seemed to use those airbreak things for maneuvering)...

      Ahh...but it was too cold, remember? Something like that where they had to adapt airspeeders to be snowspeeders, but they couldn't take out fighters for some reason (too fast for the tight valleys, maybe?). I could have sworn that was what the case was.

      The X-Wings, however, could be used in an atmospheric situation...maybe. Again, I have to rely on the videogames in that aspect, because of the fact that those designers have to worry about physics and such - and they definitely make sure that you cannot take a ship on a mission if it isn't able to handle it (unless you're using cheats).

      And, no, I wouldn't worry about the physics because, after all, the ships would never make sound in space, either...

    40. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best explanation for the multitude of lettered spaceships in the Star Wars universe that I've found is here.

    41. Re:Wings In Space by billtom · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm aware of the problems the rebel alliance had with adapting their equipment to the frigid environment of Hoth. I guess that the point I was trying to get is that we don't have anything to suggest that wings, in the SW universe, offer any advantage in in maneuverability either in space or in a planet's atmosphere as compared to whatever technology it is that provides non-winged craft their maneuvering.

      Actually, I lean towards the explaination that most of the wings seen on the SW spacecraft served other purposes and weren't actually wings (in the lift/maneuvering sense). For example, the purpose of the wings on the X-wing is to separate those long pointy things at the end of them as far as possible from the main body of the ship, which we might suppose provided some combat advantage.

    42. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A friend just suggested to me the "shorter route" explanation, and another idea occured to me....

      I am not a star wars fan, but I did spend some time in the local book store reading one of those, "science of star wars" (Ack!), and the discussion went into hypserspace travel, and the fact that the fastest ships are generally those with the best computers or astromech droids, which can plot the shortest routes along the "hyperspace highways".

      As I recall....every object in our space casts a "mass shadow" in hyperspace, and if your ship runs into a substantial mass shadow while in hyperspace, you can seriously damage or destroy your ship. Regions of space with little debris, or regions in which the debris can be swept out, re designated as hyperspacial highways, and computers or astromech droids use these to construct the quickest routes between points A and B.

    43. Re:Wings In Space by Unordained · · Score: 1

      The A-wing has a shape that makes me think of "flying wings" -- lifting bodies. Maybe not perfect, but it does seem that way ...

      Even with technologies like anti-grav thingies (repulsors in the SW universe?) you might still want a wing shape if you'll be flying at any sort of speed in an atmosphere. Maybe not for lift, but at least to stabilize the ship along the axis of the engines/flight-direction. Being the fastest of the set of A/B/X/Y [buttons on the super nintendo] ships, I'd expect the A-wing to need this the most: lifting-ish-body, winglets by the engine, etc.

      Star Furies in B5 are a good example of ships that actually seem to respect the rules of thruster-control. I only wish more video games would allow you to make use of those features (coasting in space, turning on a dime, looking behind you, strafing shots, etc.) rather than the Star wars, Wing commander, Freespace, ... version where "speed" is everything, with a max-speed, where you automatically slow down in turns (U-turns especially) etc.

    44. Re:Wings In Space by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1
      :)

      The long, pointy things are lasers. And, yes, for some reason the s-foils (the four "wings;" that's right - the X-Wing had s-foil wings...it's in the movie) had some sort of practical function. The foils need to be open to use the lasers, but closed for the ship to move through hyperspace. Staying with the lasers for a moment: Unlike the 1977 Kenner toy, I do not believe that the nose of the X-Wing had a laser in it (I don't recall anything ever shooting out of it...).

      But, you are right - the wings are just there for familiarity - they don't seem to serve any type of lift since the X-Wing, etc., have "repulsorlifts" to take the ship up vertically and without the need of a runway...

      Actually, now that I think about it, the Naboo fighters from TPM are definitely an example of a flighter that needs its wings (since they take off horizontally).

    45. Re:Wings In Space by davew2040 · · Score: 1

      I would actually like to see that. Not so much the dogfight, but definitely the squid sex.

    46. Re:Wings In Space by Eamon+C · · Score: 1
      coasting in space, turning on a dime, looking behind you, strafing shots, etc

      So you're telling us that you've never played Asteroids? Man, I feel sorry for you.

    47. Re:Wings In Space by davew2040 · · Score: 1

      I am *amazed* at this assertion. How could anybody possibly criticize Star Wars fans for stretching the material, and in the same breath claim that Star Trek/Babylon 5 fans "just don't think like that"? Have you been paying attention for the past three decades?!? Star Trek fans practically *INVENTED* the art of nitpicking! THINK!!!

    48. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could probably find some here: www.thehun.net
      It's got everything else...

    49. Re:Wings In Space by malex23 · · Score: 1
      You`d think with modern graphics we wouldn't need all aliens to be human actors in fancy dress.

      They don't... but live actors are (usually) less expensive, less time consuming, easier to shoot for and better actors.

      I can't respond to any of your other points because they made no sense.

    50. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surely those would be turbo lasers, so that they have an excuse for emitting visible beams?

    51. Re:Wings In Space by madpierre · · Score: 1

      Force fields. Aerodynamic force fields. Obvious innit? Wings or lack thereof dont matter. Aint fantasy tech wonderful ;)

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    52. Re:Wings In Space by LPetrazickis · · Score: 1

      I never understood why spacecraft need wings if they are operating outside an atmosphere.

      Heat dispersion. Regular operation of the spacecraft generates insane amounts of heat and a wing is useful in dispersing that. BTW, Star Wars suck.;)

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    53. Re:Wings In Space by billtom · · Score: 1

      Okay. And I came upon this at the official star wars site entry for X-wings:

      "The wings not only serve as stabilizer surfaces in air travel, but also distribute deflector shield energy and serve as weapons mounts."

      Distribute deflector field energy even! Very useful things.

      Anyway I've got to go. Thanks for the geek-out.

    54. Re:Wings In Space by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      "Ask a Star Wars fan about how Han Solo made a voyage in however many parsecs"

      The "Kessel Run" if I remember correctly, is a route that passes around a big black hole. (Called "The Maw" I think?) Therefore a ship with more powerful acceleration could pass closer to it, and complete the run in less distance. Not THAT convoluted, but I take your point.

      Not sure why you're modded as flamebait, it's a valid point. And Babylon 5 is far better than Star Wars or Star Trek.

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    55. Re:Wings In Space by Unordained · · Score: 1

      actually, most of the asteroid games (nowadays) automatically slow you down. but yes, i loved that game. kinda lacking in the area of multiple thrusters though ... couldn't exactly be overly creative with it. (strafing?)

    56. Re:Wings In Space by sharkey · · Score: 1
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    57. Re:Wings In Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your blind faith is even more disturbing. SW is just a two-bit ripoff of dune. Sure it's mildly entertaining but in the same way that even the most anal of us enjoy chocolate cake.

    58. Re:Wings In Space by DerekLyons · · Score: 1
      The reason I mention it is because I haven't seen this type of behavior in other sci-fi fans... Star Trek fans don't flesh out throwaway comments into things of vast significance in the Star Trek universe.
      That's probably because there are (currently) only 5 Star Wars movies (plus one Christmas Special which I haven't seen yet)
      Plus at least two different print comic series, plus a comic strip, plus numerous books, plus...
      yet there are something like 10 Star Trek movies (I can't be bothered to actually count), 5 Star Trek live-action series and a Star Trek animated series (I'm not counting the Endor series of Star Wars spinoffs, coz that would be silly).
      However, back when all we had was TOS, and a silly animated series, and a few comics.. We (Trek fans) didn't go through all the involved creation and extrapolation that Star Wars fans do on a routine basis.
  19. Re:Yeah! by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    And B-Wing and E-Wing don't look like B and E! And the Death-Star looks like a moon!

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  20. Someone needs to step outside and fast, get some fresh air and catch up on the world. He may soon be eating Mac-n-cheese and chopped up hot dogs 5 times a day and never get out of his PJs.

    1. Re:wow by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 1

      My god...I'm eating Mac'n'cheese with cut-up hotdogs right now... /sob...

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    2. Re:WoW by bsharitt · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, your streetdancing as a 23 year old man is still seen as a weird hobby.

    3. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can only hope that someday I'll be able to sit around eating mac&cheese+hotdogs in my PJs all every day until I die

  21. Re:I have a simple message for Jon Palmer by Stuart+Gibson · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    And your life enhancing pastimes are?

    Goblin

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  22. WoW by Ludo.Sanders · · Score: 1

    And I thought my streetdancing as a 23 y/o man was seen as a weird hobby.

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  23. Wow, all this.. by Harald+Paulsen · · Score: 3, Funny
    ..and he still can't get laid.

    I've always wondered if I can rebuild my lego mindstorms into some sort of robotic sex-toy.

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    1. Re:Wow, all this.. by Henry+Stern · · Score: 0

      Whatever you do, please don't post pictures of that on Slashdot. :)

    2. Re:Wow, all this.. by Spunk · · Score: 1

      I'm sure MIT can help you with that.

    3. Re:Wow, all this.. by Mr+D.+Logan · · Score: 1

      Ah, but this is very much not true. And, as I remember it, the gentleman is quite the accomplished cockblocker. Just be thankful I didn't rip out all your pubic hair over that, Jon, because you did break the rules. Seriously, though, congrats on getting your site Slashdotted and Metafiltered in the same day.

    4. Re:Wow, all this.. by Kumazemi · · Score: 1

      Somebody mod this boy up, he speaks the truth. Hey Miles. You should just be glad I didn't give you the 'magic flying fast food sack'.

  24. Wrong Alphabet? by jolyonr · · Score: 3, Funny

    But if I remember right, whenever you see any writing in the Star Wars movies it's all in a strange alpahbet, so how come the ships are named (and shaped!) after the Roman alphabet.

    Oh hang on, am I taking things too seriously? :)

    Jolyon

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    1. Re:Wrong Alphabet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, taking it too seriously, but it's an interesting point.

      That's where he messed up. In the SW universe, the X-wing is not called an X-wing. We call it that because it looks like an X from a certain angle.

      The ships should be shaped like the letter they represent. Saying the "S" in "S-wing" stands for "Shuttle" is inconsistent with that.

  25. I have a simple reminder for BigBadDude by Joel+Bruick · · Score: 2, Funny

    You're a registered member of Slashdot !

  26. His employment status should change ..... by fleppir · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Lego ought to hire this guy on the SPOT, these are STUNNINGLY good, beautiful designs.

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  27. Hmmm! by rylin · · Score: 5, Funny

    It seems to be missing a few letters, namely å, ä and ö :(

    /me ducks

    1. Re:Hmmm! by course · · Score: 1

      if you are to include å ä and ö, you should really consider the posibilities of an Æ-wing, or maby even an ø-wing?

    2. Re:Hmmm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ø-wing wing doesn't exist.

    3. Re:Hmmm! by snooo53 · · Score: 1

      Seems to me those are just the modified versions of the a-wings and 0-wings. You know, just slap on a extra booster or cannon

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    4. Re:Hmmm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And ð, and æ, and .

    5. Re:Hmmm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen someone sugest that Greek letters should be next. Personally, I think that Chinese would be more interesting... (not that kanji exactly count as letters).

    6. Re:Hmmm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An entire universe of unicode inspired spaceships. I can't wait.

  28. Difference of opinion. by peterpi · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "I have to admit, some of these look even cooler than the ships created for the newer Star Wars movies."

    Well that's hardly difficult seeing as they sucked ass. X wings and TIE fighters on the other hand looked like they actually had someone engage their brain before making them.

    1. Re:Difference of opinion. by Toasty981 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, I remember the great design of TIE fighters from playing the PC game of the same name when I was a kid. Let me tell you, their paper-thin shields that withstood all of one laser hit were great. And don't give me that "but they were faster!" shit, they couldn't even outrun the Millenium Falcon.

      But my favorite part of that game was when you messed up a mission and shot down an Imperial ship. The commander would say "Return to base immediately! The Emperor will have your head!" What great incentive.

    2. Re:Difference of opinion. by Physics+Nobody · · Score: 2, Insightful

      *sigh*...time for me to be geeky...

      First off, regular TIE Fighters, TIE Interceptors, and TIE Bombers do not have any shields at all. And yes, their armor sucked but that's not the point.

      The standard TIE Fighter is actually an excellent design in its own way. The things aren't that fast, but they are very small and maneuverable and can be a challenge to hit, especially in large numbers. But most importantly, they are simple. They are basically nothing more than a cockpit, lasers, and engine. They are most likely incredibly cheap to build and maintain, and because of their small size you can pack a lot of them into a star destroyer. Thus you can overwhelm your enemy with superior numbers. In large packs TIE Fighters are extremely deadly.

      The Empire almost certainly does not place a high value on the lives of its pilots, which is why they get away with this sort of design. People are expendible. The only thing strange about the movies is that so few TIE Fighters are actually used in most engagements. I mean, look at the final battle in episode 4. You know that Death Star is packed full of TIE Fighters, but they only actually send out a handful to fight the rebel fighters. Maybe they were just overconfident.

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    3. Re:Difference of opinion. by davew2040 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually I think it's because the movie would've sucked if the rebels got stamped out of existence in the span of two minutes

    4. Re:Difference of opinion. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      shit, they couldn't even outrun the Millenium Falcon.
      The Falcon was supposed to one of the fastest ships around. I'm not sure if that was entierly true, but I don't think it's any surprise that it could outrun TIEs.

      shit, they couldn't even outrun the Millenium Falcon.
      If its a choice between getting killed and sitting around in a tiny cockpit until you run out of oxygen, then maybe that isn't so bad. Of course, it depends on exacly what the Empire has planed for you.

    5. Re:Difference of opinion. by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      Yup, definitely a bare bones design. In fact, TIEs don't even have a life support system. That's why all the TIE pilots wear full environment suits and those sinister face masks, while the Rebels can go bare faced.

      "You know that Death Star is packed full of TIE Fighters, but they only actually send out a handful to fight the rebel fighters. Maybe they were just overconfident."

      Or, maybe it would've been unfeasible for the special effects of the time to pull off thousands of fighters using models? :)

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  29. For those who think this is a stupid waste of time by Wacky_Wookie · · Score: 2

    I think this was a great exercise; at least he was not driving around shooting at people!

    I mean, he took a common exercise (Building and designing Lego things is pretty common in western culture) and he added a set of restrictions (the Roman Alphabet, The Star Wars Universe). By denying himself total creative freedom, he forced his mind to solve actual problems, but in a very creative way.

    This is what they should be teaching in schools! Creative problem soling is the key to intelligent thought. Hell, I'd seriously consider hiring someone for a job if I knew they were good at building and designing Lego.

    I think Lego should be a Required Learning Tool in all classrooms, at all grade levels. Tons of University engineering programs use Lego as a teaching aid.

  30. The O-wing has no wings by MyRuger · · Score: 1

    Something to think about.

  31. Uh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Excuse me? Less material to go by? Have you ever seen how many fucking StarWars books there are?

  32. limited fun by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The basic lego bricks may be ideal for very young children, but once you hit 6 or 7 you get very frustrated by the fact that there are no fighter canopies/big wheels/flexible hoses etc. Fortunately, in my case that was exactly when Lego started to produce more of these parts (I had a spiffy train set with quite a few specialized parts). The "old" parts were still useful of course, it's all about balance.

    I agree that they have gone a tad overboard on the specialized parts in recent years, but the Star Wars line actually uses a lot of the old basic bricks, simply because they're needed to replicate the arbitrary shapes of the SW universe vehicles. I bought several SW Lego sets and they're loaded with great simple parts.

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    1. Re:limited fun by turgid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Even with those fancy new pieces, the thirst for more reappears. Technical lego ("Technic") was so cool in my day. I used to love building cars, cranes, tanks etc. When I was 11 I built a 4-wheel-drive car (3 differential gears!) with a 3-speed gearbox, rack and pinion steering and independent suspension on all four wheels. It was so big and heavy, and had so much friction, the poor little electric motor could barely push it along. I didn't have suspension springs, but I did improvise with rubber bands. Those were the days. Shortly after, my parents banned me from playing with Lego because they said I was too old.

    2. Re:limited fun by passion · · Score: 1

      Just to point out that there's a difference between "specialized parts", and regular, normal parts that have "specialized decals" on them. Of course, the decals look cool in certain situations, but sometimes they're not appropriate for what you're trying to build.

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    3. Re:limited fun by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 4, Insightful

      >> Shortly after, my parents banned me from playing with Lego because they said I was too old.

      Your parents need a dope slap. Firstly, 11 is not too old to be playing with Legos, and secondly, to ban a child from playing with a toy is just wrong. What the hell were Mom Unit and System Dad thinking?

    4. Re:limited fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you get penisbird lego pieces? Has anybody made a life-size penisbird out of lego? That would kick ass.

    5. Re:limited fun by rootofevil · · Score: 1

      so when, exactly, was the last time you built a lego set? they include all of these features, in one form or another. there have been transparent canopies since the first couple sets (essentially before i remember), and flexible hoses i remember quite vividly from many sets. as far as wheels go, there were a ton of sizes.

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    6. Re:limited fun by turgid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They were obsessed with making me grow up quickly. It was considered shameful to be playing with Lego at the age of 12. It was "baby-ish". When I think about it, my grandfather left school at 12 to earn a living.

  33. Re:For those who think this is a stupid waste of t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Peter Molyneaux did his original ideas for the game Populous in Lego, and I think we can all agree that he's done pretty well out of it (Bullfrog, Lionhead).

    Creativity isn't something you grow out of, and the mediums you use aren't really governed by age. I'm 28 and if I had the time, I know I'd still enjoy building Lego models.

  34. Re:I have a simple message for Jon Palmer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keeping healthy...

    http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns9 99 93942

  35. Re:gimme a break by iapetus · · Score: 1

    No. Which is probably for the best, given that "news that matters" isn't part of Slashdot's remit. "News for nerds" is. "Stuff that matters" is. This story falls neatly into the former category.

    If you're looking for news that matters, you might want to try elswhere...

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  36. Repulsors by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 2, Informative

    In the SW universe, cheap (eg. Luke's landspeeder) and ubiquitous repulsor "antigravity" technology has made atmospheric design a lot less important for space/aero vehicles. You just fly atmospherically with repulsors holding you up instead of aerodynamic lift. You'd design space fighters optimally for their space use, and worry much less, if at all, about what to do once they hit atmosphere. I assume there'd still be a niche for traditional fighter planes which could be designed to use "old-fashioned" aerodynamics.

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    1. Re:Repulsors by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      Lift is not the sole purpose of aerodynamics. A craft would still need to be aerodynamic to fly through the atmosphere. Granted, it might not need wings though.

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  37. Re:It's articles like this that keep me coming bac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    relax... this is all in good fun. lots of the people who read /. are sci fi fans and have fond memories of playing with legos as kids.

  38. Re:For those who think this is a stupid waste of t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    At leat if he drove around killing people it'd make a more interesting story.

    Oh and he didn't solve any actual problems, he just made some stupid lego ships shaped like letters. This contributes nothing to the world, it's a retarded waste of time.

  39. the style at the time? by nounderscores · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    And I used to wear an onion in my belt.

  40. S-Wing by Hecateus · · Score: 1

    Any Lego Geeks out there think, like me, that LL487 "S-Wing" is actually one of the earliest of the small Lego style space series? (though done in black, not the classic blue.) :D

    1. Re:S-Wing by Hecateus · · Score: 1

      me again, Stuart talks about the LL487 in the interview: http://www.fbtb.net/stuart/int.html

    2. Re:S-Wing by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      It's not an "S-wing"...it has nothing whatsoever to do with Star Wars. It's just a generic spaceship.

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  41. Why not... by kleine18 · · Score: 0

    Why not X,Y,B,A,E and V. If he says every other letter, why is he skipping some?

  42. I have this irresistible urge... by Ethelred+Unraed · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...to pick up these things in my hand, make them fly around and make guttural "thruster" and rocket noises involving lots of spittle gurgling at the back of my throat. (My spittle, that is. Not someone else's.) And "teeeeuuuw teeeuww" laser noises.

    And have them blow stuff up (imaginatively, of course).

    Ah, to be a child again...

    Cheers,

    Ethelred

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  43. Wow... by SD-VI · · Score: 1

    He's like George Lucas, except talented!

    All right, that's mean. I take it back. But you have to admit, he's done an awfully good job, no matter how much he probably cries at night.

  44. depressing... by kisrael · · Score: 3, Interesting

    this is so depressing...I wanted to be a lego designer when I was a kid, and of course I've had dark ages since then that are still kind of going on, and few of my creations where anywhere near as cool as these.

    Lego is coming out with some really cool stuff these days, getting back to their roots a bit, without being too blocky. Designer series come with pamphlets with like 30 or so creations (you can build 2 or 3 at the same time with the bricks provided) and the new Star Wars mini stuff, tiny scale, is really clever (though I've seen fans do similar stuff earlier.)

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  45. Matter=Energy and Distance=Time by FreeUser · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ask a Star Wars fan about how Han Solo made a voyage in however many parsecs and prepare to boggle at the convoluted thought process behind the explanation.

    I am not a Star Wars fan at all (though I used to be a casual enjoyer of the movies, before episodes I and II), but this point isn't as convulated or silly as you may think.

    Remember Einstein's equation: e=m (more commonly known as e=mc^2)? You can drop the c^2 if you chose your units to be such that c=1, meaning that the speed of light is little more than a constant that converts between two sets of units that essentially measure the same thing. Indeed, physcicists have proposed that we adopt more natural units that clarify this relationship.

    Distance and time are likewise the same thing (as becomes apparent when dealing with general relativity).

    You could measure time in units that describe how far light travels in a given period of time. While saying "just give me 300,000 kilometers, I'll be right with you" is a little more verbose the "just give me a second," the two are, in terms of physics, identical. Alternatively, you could say something is about a nanosecond distant, i.e. that object is one light-nanosecond away from your current position.

    The fact that we didn't understand the relationships between space and time, nor that between energy and mass, is why we've ended up with two essentially incompatible units for each (meters vs. seconds, grams vs. Joules) which make the e=m relationship, and the distance vs. time relationship, appear more complex than they actually are.

    So, saying one made a trip in x parsecs (which is silly sounding and undoubtably resulted from George Lucas not knowing a thing about physics or the units he was tossing about) isn't really as silly as one would think.

    What is silly is that we still have different units for distance vs. time, and mass vs. energy, when in each case they are one and the same.

    There, now you've read a 'convuluted' explaination by someone who hates what Star Wars has become and was never a very ardent fan ... an explaination that happens to be true.

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    1. Re:Matter=Energy and Distance=Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So... given that a parsec is about four light months, parsec as a unit of time would be something like four months. Sounds like Han Solo really was bullshitting to impress an old man and a farm boy.

    2. Re:Matter=Energy and Distance=Time by sql*kitten · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So, saying one made a trip in x parsecs (which is silly sounding and undoubtably resulted from George Lucas not knowing a thing about physics or the units he was tossing about) isn't really as silly as one would think.

      That may or may not be true - but the explanation you will get from a hardcore fan involves Solo being such a skillful pilot that he was able to fly closer to debris fields or black holes or something than any other pilot in the galaxy, so in fact flew from A to B by a shorter route. That's why I mean about obsessively retrofitting details - they had to invent a route, places, hazards, etc in their "universe" to make all that plausible. In other worse, one Han Solo sentence created vast swathes of cartography that are far beyond the scope of "canon".

      Other scifi fans - for example, Babylon 5 fans - simply don't think like that.

    3. Re:Matter=Energy and Distance=Time by turgid · · Score: 1

      A parsec is about 3.26 light years.

    4. Re:Matter=Energy and Distance=Time by Conspir8or · · Score: 1

      When I eventually learned in my early teens what a parsec was, I bugged for a while out at Lucas's seeming inaccuracy. Then time went by, and I realized Lucas just went with a space-sounding word. You might say, "he let go of his conscious self and acted on instinct." Don't seem to have hurt the boy none.

      I became much happier when I found I could say "F it" about things like this and accept that sometimes a parsec is just a "parsec."

    5. Re:Matter=Energy and Distance=Time by Sirch · · Score: 1

      Oh, so now you're picking on B5 fans?!

      What about the explanation from Star Trek for the difference in look between the original Klingons and the later ones? "The Klingons genetically engineered a race of humanoids that looked more human in order to facilitate peace between them and the humans. After war was declared, they didn't need this any more, so they've gone back to how they should be."

      I think it's a little unfair of you to pick on just Star Wars fans. Just look at the sphere of fanfic which is available - people like something so much that they can't get enough of it, so they must come up with more to satisfy their craving. The concept that their chosen object of affection is flawed in any way (for whatever reason, special-effects-related or ignorance-of-author-related) is one which they cannot stand, and so they fill holes with conjecture. If you think about it, this is the reason we have religion, but I'll leave that for another debate!

    6. Re:Matter=Energy and Distance=Time by kisrael · · Score: 1

      You might say, "he let go of his conscious self and acted on instinct." Don't seem to have hurt the boy none.

      Compared to Greedo shooting first, that's pretty small potatoes...

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    7. Re:Matter=Energy and Distance=Time by Conspir8or · · Score: 1

      :::shudder::: Agreed. I'll be dead in the cold, cold ground before I accept Greedo shooting first. I'll take Han making the Kessel Run in less than 12 acres before I buy that revisionist Lucas claptrap.

    8. Re:Matter=Energy and Distance=Time by FurryFeet · · Score: 1

      Wow... give me a meter to think about all that.

    9. Re:Matter=Energy and Distance=Time by dlelash · · Score: 1

      "What is silly is that we still have different units for distance vs. time."

      No we don't! If someone asks me how far I live from San Francisco, I tell them, "45 minutes to an hour"!

    10. Re:Matter=Energy and Distance=Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the thing that bugs the shit out of me.

      If I ask someone where they live, and they say they live 30 minutes north of Boston, I then have to ask "Who's driving, and what time of day?" Because while my wife lives 45 minutes north of Honolulu, I only live 20 minutes north of Honolulu. And when she was in labor, we only lived 15 minutes north of Honolulu (thankfully I was driving). My how time flies when there is the distinct possibility of having a baby being born in your front seat. :)

    11. Re:Matter=Energy and Distance=Time by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Utter twaddle. It's like saying I ran the hundred metres in 0.1 kilometers.

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    12. Re:Matter=Energy and Distance=Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If someone asks me how far I live from San Francisco, I tell them, "45 minutes to an hour"!
      When fartknockers give me answers like that, I ask them whether that's 45 minutes walking, driving, or in a fscking jump-jet.
  46. Blinded by Nostalgia? by mike_mgo · · Score: 1
    You know, there were crappy movies and sequels back in the '80's and there's a whole string of lousy bubblegum pop stars going back at least to the '60's. There are always going to be attempts to reach the largest audience by appealing to the lowest common denominator (or attempts to recapture an earlier success with cheap knock-offs. Hell, for the last 15 years every other action movie has been a copycat of Die Hard in a new locale.) At worst it may be a little more prevalent today only because we are so bombarded by mass media.

    Don't forget that there is plenty of good movies, music, books, etc coming out everyday as long as you're willing to look for them.

    1. Re:Blinded by Nostalgia? by lightcycle · · Score: 1

      You are right, but I think as a whole things have become more and more skewed towards the lowest common denominator, and as you say it is because of the immense shoving from Hollywood et al. I realize there still exists good movies and music, and in particular many good books. It's just that I find it increasingly hard to filter them out from the static

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  47. Brick Tales by DiggiLooDiggiLey · · Score: 1

    Well if you love Lego, then you have to check this site out.
    Brick Tales and read stories such as Zeke's adventure in organic chem lab and Masterpieces of Lego Literature

  48. Re:Yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's no moon. That's a space station.

  49. I remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when I was but a lad, Legos required thinking about what one created. Now, there are kits and templates and all manner of things to make creating something a snap. While it's still fun, the creativity is largely left up to the manufacturer.
    Who remembers Lincoln Logs and Erector sets? Let's not forget about Tinker Toys. I spent hours upon hours creating entire cities with all 4 sets at the same time. I remember acquiring electric motors and rubber bands and automating the Tinker Toys before this was even an option from the manufacturer. I built a crane and accompanying mine with all the above 4 sets. It took up the entire living room for weeks until finally, one day I finished, played with my creation for all of an hour and then summarily destroyed the lot in a mere seconds with Lego dive bombers designed to break apart on impact.

  50. My urge is different. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... After building these things I'd have the urge to go up to a second story window and really make them fly.... ...right into the street in a few hundred pieces.

    Then of course start all over again building it or something new... ...to do it all over again.

    Legos filled my destructive side as a kid. They were the best breakable toy.

  51. Re:For those who think this is a stupid waste of t by Wacky_Wookie · · Score: 1

    "This contributes nothing to the world, it's a retarded waste of time" All that timne Albert Einstein spent working on random, stupid math work while he worked at the swiss patent office contributed nothing to the world either. This guy could create free, cheap energy systems that change the face of human society, but first he would need to put his brain into the thought Gym that is Lego.

  52. Hey Jon! Way to go! by Wes+Janson · · Score: 1

    Congratulations on getting posted to Slashdot. A dubious honor, one might say, but still pretty damn cool. Next up will be Gareth, methinks :)

    Getting to see the fighters in person at Brickfest last year was a blast, easily one of the highlights of the weekend... Now, finish unpacking and start building those last ships! :P

  53. There is a S-Wing.... - Re:S.... by bazik · · Score: 1

    Erm... there is a S-Wing.

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    1. Re:There is a S-Wing.... - Re:S.... by Illserve · · Score: 1

      yes

      But does it look like an S?

    2. Re:There is a S-Wing.... - Re:S.... by hesiod · · Score: 3, Funny

      > But does it look like an S?

      No, it looks like a Winnebago.

  54. Information on "S" by Wes+Janson · · Score: 5, Informative

    The S-Wing is a deliberate homage to the origin of Legos in Space-the first Classic Space sets released, back in the late '70s. The S-Wing is a deliberate re-make of the 918
    http://guide.lugnet.com/set/918_1
    One of the most famous sets ever made, the 918 was one of the original three classic spaceships released by Lego. Jon did not "give up", he built a deliberate homage to the Holy Grail of .Space.

    http://news.lugnet.com/space/
    Space. Forever!

    1. Re:Information on "S" by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1

      Man...I forgot I have that set...time to go spelunking through my mother's basement. Thanks for the link - it really brings back memories.

    2. Re:Information on "S" by florin · · Score: 3, Informative

      You're on the right track, but the S-Wing nose, wing, body structure, double main engine and double height cockpit configuration are actually an exact replica of the 487 Space Cruiser which was the bigger brother of the 918 in the same classic series.

      Yes, this is nitpicking. Bite me Slashdot crowd. I care is because I used to have one of those :)

  55. The ultimate /. project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's self-indulgent, irrelevant to the real world, has a SF connection, and reeks of geek. I'm surprised the guy didn't do two more ships--a "/" and a "."...

  56. Nice by CakerX · · Score: 0

    Kickin Rad.

  57. All Shatner quotes aside... by gatkinso · · Score: 1

    ...the guy did a pretty good job.

    He seems to be quite artistic!

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  58. It had to be said.. by F-edz0r · · Score: 0

    The Force Is Strong In This One

  59. "J" is for Jar-Jar by BlightThePower · · Score: 1
    "Hey, check it out. I rebuilt the jar-jar model. Took me a week. This time don't...". STOMP! "Argh! Not again...*sob*"

    But seriously, seems like a strange thing to spend your time doing but if it makes him happy why not? I saw a few comments above along the lines of "hehe, lego, he'll never get laid". Well, the thing is, kernel-compilation or getting in a funk over Microsoft aren't exactly activities known for their pulling power either.

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  60. Star Wars Action Figure Theater by clasher · · Score: 1

    a small preview of a friends project. SWAFT

  61. His server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His server is strong in the force!

  62. the canopies! by ed.han · · Score: 2

    goodness me, yes! i had the same problem and it really aggravated me. i remember the happy day that i discovered the skinny transparent pieces so i could at least use only skinny pieces to create ships...of course, trying to create missiles was another story...

    ah, the good old days when i could reconstruct the argo from the big blue 2x8 bricks...i never did have enough pieces to make appropriately scaled fighters...

    [waxes nostalgic]

    32 years old and here i am waxing nostalgic about freaking legos. this is telling. i'm not sure if it's in a good or bad way, but it's definitely telling.

    [sighs]

    ed

    1. Re:the canopies! by Istealmymusic · · Score: 1
      it really aggravated me
      You can only aggrevate (to worsen) a situation, what you really meant was irritate.
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  63. My measly Lego spaceship page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy's site sure puts mine to shame: Don's Lego Creations (click on Don's Space Lego)

  64. Re:Hi ya!! by Toby+Studabaker · · Score: 0
    Thanks man, but I don't know how much I can tell you so I'll just stick to what my lawyer told me to say.

    Anyway, these krauts aren't too bad, you know? They gave me a laptop with an interweb connection. It even came with my favourite chatline!

  65. A Lego first! by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is the first Lego-related article that hasn't immediately been slashdotted. Apparently the Lego community has learned not to host web sites on servers made of Legos...

    1. Re:A Lego first! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or perhaps everyone is just shaking their heads in disbelief, sighing and moving on to the next article...

  66. Re: The Danish alphabet by Carthag · · Score: 2, Funny

    Indeed. Lego is Danish, so it'd be fun to see what he could make with æ, ø and å. :)

    The umlauted letters are in Swedish, Finnish, German, etc.

  67. Re:Poor? guy. by tommertron · · Score: 0
    Man, when you're 40, what else are you gonna do with your time? Either it's toy trains, or gardening, or collecting miniatures or some other hobby to fill out the spare time in your meaningless life.

    Anyway, I'm glad these people are taking the time to do nerd-friendly hobbies. I'd rather look at this than some garden.

    I remember I used to do doodle sketches on my notebook in the ninth grade for ships based on the other letters. I actually drew an S-Wing though!

    PS NOTHING beats the Y-Wing. That thing rocks.

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  68. Okay... by tomstdenis · · Score: 1

    I have second cousins who are in the "play with lego" age. Should I post what they make on /. too?

    Seems to me this is "news for dorks who still play with legos". Grow up and get a mechano set like the rest of us.

    Tom

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  69. O wing by Hognoxious · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    The O wing is vewy dangewous; one of them bwought down the shuttle Chawwenger.

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    1. Re:O wing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shouldn't that be "Chawwengew"?

    2. Re:O wing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoever modded this flamebait is a nonce, or more probably a dumb yank.

  70. What the F? by Lispy · · Score: 2, Funny

    What the F?

  71. Marketing hype for the S-Wing by FearUncertaintyDoubt · · Score: 2, Funny
    The S-WING had a spacious interior and plenty of cargo space.

    Yes, but what about rich Corinthian leather?

  72. Re:limited fun : Lego API by cvd6262 · · Score: 1

    I once heard someone compare the bump on top of the Lego to a well designed API. He said that later generations of Lego blocks became very specialized, but the interface (the bump) remained the same.

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  73. Why? by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 1

    Why would it need to be aerodynamic? With powerful engines (also ubiquitous in SW) and antigrav, you could fly a washing machine in atmosphere.

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    1. Re:Why? by p3d0 · · Score: 1
      Have you ever seen a meteor enter the atmosphere? The air pressure builds up and you end up with white-hot flames surrounding your ship. That's why the space shuttle needs those heat resistant tiles. Plus, the ship would need to be physically strong to withstand those stresses if it weren't aerodynamic. I'm sure you could make your ship more easily and cheaply if you just streamline it a bit.

      The ship could slow to a crawl before re-entering, but that would make landing take a long time. Better just to be aerodynamic.

      Besides, who says fuel is free? Maybe, even with ultimate technology, there's still a desire to be efficient.

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    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why wouldn't the repulsors also be used to affect the atmosphere around the front edge of the craft? Just move the air around a little, so that it doesn't build up the heat on the nose. Besides, NASA's shuttles are more-or-less aerodynamic, and they still have massive heat build-up on re-entry. As was demonstrated recently, unfortunately.

      So No Such Agency's flying washing machine with powerful engines and repulsors could still make the interplanetary flight, and land, with no problem.

    3. Re:Why? by p3d0 · · Score: 1
      You're not making any sense. If the shuttle is aerodynamic, and it still has air resistance problems, imagine the additional problems if it weren't aerodynamic. And it's not at all clear to me that a high-thrust engine technology must necessarily be capable of moving air out of the way. Look at our own rockets as a counterexample.

      You're postulating technology that they may or may not have, and trying to use that to "prove" that their designs are impractical. Well, why not just give them the benefit of the doubt?

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  74. Disturbing... by somethingwicked · · Score: 2, Funny

    This really is sad...

    So, one day, on a website devoted to Nerds, someone asks why the spacecraft have wings.

    Someone else has to point out that they do fly through the atmosphere, which means, wings are a good thing to have, unless you enjoy making craters on every landing...

    AND SOMEONE HAS TO MOD THAT POST AS INSIGHTFUL.

    Which, lets be quite honest, it isn't very insightful at all: "Things that fly-wings helpful."

    No offense intended to p3do, because it needed to be said. And props to the moderator who found it important to mod up, they were right.

    Its just damn scary someone drug things down to the point that a statment of the obvious becomes insightful.

    *grin*

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  75. A-wings and B-wings by f97tosc · · Score: 1

    You might have wondered why B-wings are called B-wings, they certainly don't look like a B...

    Well, aparently they developed two new prototypes for George Lucas to take a look at, and they called one A and one B. They realized that the A model actually looked like an A, so A-wing felt very natural.

    Whne George picked both, the B sort of stuck to the other one also.

    Tor

  76. Paradise! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mmmmmmmmmmmm.... weenie macs.

  77. Complimentary Jokes by Jim_Hawkins · · Score: 0
    So...

    ...is the place where the G-Wing parks called the G-Spot?

    OR

    ...about that S-Wing...if you have a squadron of them, is it called a S-Wing Set? ;-)

  78. S-Wing look familiar? by CommieLib · · Score: 1
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    1. Re:S-Wing look familiar? by byee · · Score: 1

      If you clicked through the site a little more closely, you would have noticed that acknowledged that the S-Wing was pretty much exactly like the model you have pointed out. So I don't think this is new information to anyone.

  79. Re: Wrong Alphabet by groove10 · · Score: 1

    The writing in Star Wars that you usually see is called Aurebesh. It is remarkably similar to the Roman alpabet in use in the english langauge of today. Here is a chart of aurebesh characters and their english counterparts.

    It always surprised me that they took letters (and shapes) from the Roman alphabet for their ships. I guess it's just easier for the fans (read:kids) to remember. The 'X' in aurebesh looks like a triangle.

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  80. Re:For those who think this is a stupid waste of t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy could create free, cheap energy systems that change the face of human society, but first he would need to put his brain into the thought Gym that is Lego. >>>>>>>>>>>>

    and then he would be promptly shot in the head.
    Because its all about the cabbage, baby.

  81. K Wing by cactopus · · Score: 1

    I think this one looks the coolest... anyone think it looks a little like those killer craft in Terminator 3?

  82. Three words... by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

    ...Space station monorail.

    That rocked. It did have quite a few custom pieces, but a lot of it was the original multipurpose stuff, and most of the custom pieces (like the canopies and base sections for the monorail) could be reused in plenty of other ways.

    </nostalgic> :-)

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    1. Re:Three words... by Rob.Mathers · · Score: 1

      That thing was the bomb. I got it for xmas one year, and set it up on a big table with casters (so I could wheel it out to the middle of my room to play with it) in my room. That thing kicked so much ass, and you could do some cool crashes with it too :D

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  83. Sorry, but this is just dumb. by suso · · Score: 1

    Come on, an O wing fighter?

    1. Re:Sorry, but this is just dumb. by sharkey · · Score: 1

      Kinda looks like the starships from "Jews in Space".

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  84. The S-Wing? by hesiod · · Score: 1

    That S-Wing reminds me of Lone Star's Winnebago from Spaceballs :)

  85. 20 down, 20000 to go by Vegan+Pagan · · Score: 1

    Now all they need are the hiragana wings, the katakana wings, the 3000 or so kanji wings, the Arabic wings...

    1. Re:20 down, 20000 to go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there are considerably more than 3000 kanji...or are you referring only to the Jouyou Kanji?

  86. So.... by greymond · · Score: 1

    If I can create a map of my companies network using lego's and string can I get my site posted on slashdot?

    1. Re:So.... by Maserati · · Score: 1

      Probably, that'd be kinda cool. But for full points, make a Lego robot that automatically builds the network model based on live data. Have it cut strings when AT&T forgets about one of your T1 lines.

      Good luck with that.

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  87. Sweet by Cackmobile · · Score: 1

    Makes me wish I had kept my lego. THis models are seriously sweet as. THey look like they are proper kits. I have to say though he must of spent some serious cash on these lego its really cheap. Might have to go buy some lego, I used to love and now I am no longer a too cool for school teenager (havn't been for a while) I could probably give it ago. Wonder if I still have the skills?

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  88. Nah, not even close. by freeweed · · Score: 1

    Trust me, Lucas isn't an expert in quantum physics or anything.

    He just found a cool-sounding word, used it in error, and has to live with it for the rest of his life.

    It's called "people who make movies aren't necessarily PhD's in particle physics, faster than light travel, xenobiology..." syndrome.

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  89. I like 'em by silverbax · · Score: 1

    At takes a lot more guts to admit what you like as opposed to what you don't like.

    I like the logo ships. They look pretty damn good. I wish I had 'em, I'd be wooshing around the office right now.

  90. Re:Yeah! by weeboo0104 · · Score: 1

    And the Death-Star looks like a moon!

    That's no moon....It's a space station!

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  91. Interesting Guy by gooddope · · Score: 1

    But what must his kids think of this project? Oh, wait... How could a man of such obvious social experience have kids? That would require having spoken to a woman.

  92. ...or French by cheezitmike · · Score: 1

    He could add a little gun or some sort of sensor off the side of the C-wing to make a ç-wing variant. :)

  93. Engineer's toys by Comatose51 · · Score: 1

    Any kid that would someday be an engineer probably played and was obsessed with Lego some point in their early life. In some ways, I can see a correlation between my Lego age and the start of my programming age (as a matter of fact, they overlapped). They both satisfied an innate desire to simply create things, whether there was any purpose or not. Furthermore, some of us never followed the instructions and just wanted the pieces to build and challenge ourselves to make something complex out of something simple. That's the beauty of Legos. Then there was the times of endless tweaking to make the creations stronger, more stable, or more complex... Good times.

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  94. And if you need one, and I NEED CANDY! by Mr+D.+Logan · · Score: 1
    And you missed it on the main fbtb site Jon's got some M-Wings for sale.

    Nice pieces that still fill me with lego envy. Maybe someday I'll actually get around to building that big gunship? Yeah... no.

  95. Re:Just needs the right domain... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, some moderator sure has a stick up their arse over this thread.

  96. I think you just proved his point. by RatBastard · · Score: 1

    That's some very seriously convoluted logic to explain away George's ignorance. Care to explain how the Ewoks are not mutant ripoffs of Teddy Ruxbin designed to sell dolls at Christmas?

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  97. No the K wing looks like a Star Fury by Rhinobird · · Score: 1

    I think the Kwing looks like a Star Fury from Babylon 5.

    Don't believe me compare and cantrast:

    His K wing.
    A picture of a Star Fury I found on the interweb.

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  98. Take off every zig by yerricde · · Score: 1

    The letter Ø looks almost like how some computer systems draw a zero. A Zero-Wing, or "Zig" for short, looks like the craft pictured on the cover of this book.

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    1. Re:Take off every zig by Carthag · · Score: 1

      First off, please do not ever use that signature again. I think I'm actually on the verge of being offended, even though I've seen the infamous goatse man many times, and not only that, I just spent half an hour cleaning out catshit from under my bed (oh do I hate my entire family ever so much).

      Ø is older than the computer zero. The reason the computer zero looks like it does is that if it didn't you might get it confused with the o. Of course, now you don't anymore, but that's beisde the point. Back when we had shitty resolutions (*patting my commodore 64*), this was necessary.

      By the way, haven't I seen you on e2? Sorry for being so anal, I'm drunk.

  99. For something really challenging... by earthforce_1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I would like to see him build one fighter for every traditional chinese character in existance.

    So what are YOU doing for the rest of your life?

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  100. Re:Yeah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    And the Death-Star looks like a moon!

    Yeah, but if Lucas called it a Death Moon, it would sound like a teenage prank gone horribly wrong.

    Anonymous Kev
    Proudly posting as AC since 1997

  101. What wings? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wings have curved surfaces that produce lift. The "wings" on Star Wars fighters look more rectangular to me. Also, they don't seem to have any movable control surfaces. I don't see how they could be of any benefit to flying in an atmosphere.

    1. Re:What wings? by p3d0 · · Score: 1
      Ok, ok, all I was saying is that wings on spacecraft are not ridiculous nor useless. See the space shuttle.

      For the Star Wars ships, you could imagine any number of reasons (eg. X-wings need their guns to be a certain distance from their engines).

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  102. WOW! by Redbw6 · · Score: 1

    Making that many characters out of Legos must have taken a really long time. I think that is awesome...can't wait to see them all completed!!

  103. Re:Fucking moderators by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    I SAID it was INSIGHTFUL

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  104. I weep... by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 1

    I weep and lament that this garbage made it to the front page. Some guy makes spaceships with legos, and it's a newsbreak?

    *sigh*

    1. Re:I weep... by RazzleDazzle · · Score: 1

      You must be new to slashdot. In case you didnt notice there are many topics. One of which is "TOYS" that this one obviously falls under and there are all sorts of different game sub-topics. Perhaps you should relax and get used to how Slashdot operates or go elsewhere.

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    2. Re:I weep... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get a grip, tard. Everyone's welcome to their opinions.

      Razzle Dazzle? Are there alot of queers on /.?

    3. Re:I weep... by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 1

      So according to your logic, if I stick a lego up my ass and take a picture of it, it satisfies the established standards for a Toys section on Slashdot?

      Think before you open your proverbial mouth. Slashdot is a technology site. The toys section is for technological toys. Perhaps you should relax or go elsewhere.

    4. Re:I weep... by RazzleDazzle · · Score: 1

      No, your lego-up-your-ass in and of itself wouldn't satisfy the standard, it would have to be accepted by one of the slashdot editors who control the standard. Slashdot is not just technology based; I can name several slashdot topics that are not directly technology related: The United Stats, The Courts, The Media, Privacy, News, It's Funny. Laugh, Entertainment, Editorial, Censorship, Books.

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    5. Re:I weep... by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 1

      You're right. Technology, our rights, breaking news, educational books... I still don't see where middle-aged guy making lego spaceships fits in.

  105. Klingons look different now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It is not something we speak of"
    -Worf, DS9. "Trials and Tribble-ations"

  106. We already measure like this! by CrystalFalcon · · Score: 1

    For several years, I have measured the distance to my friends in milliseconds. Usually, the distance is no longer than 50ms, but it can climb to 80-90ms on a bad day. Been much better since I switched ISPs, though.

    Seriously though, I have thought about how time (as in latency) is becoming the only relevant distance. It's not the point you make, but a slightly related one.

    Thoughts?

  107. A simpler answer. by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    "It's the ship that made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs."

    I imagine that the Kessel run is from one planet (or space station, or "BASE") to another. Planets are constantly orbiting their stars, and there is a lot of other interstellar material floating around. Maybe Han was just lucky enough to make the Kessel run when the 2 planets were closest together, or maybe he sucessfully navigated an asteroid field. What are the odds of that?

  108. The R-Wing by istewart · · Score: 1

    Complete with carbon-fiber spoiler, 3' diameter fart-cannons, and gigantic "Type-R" stickers on the cockpit.

    Also, take notice of the Sith Quake-Wing. Wonder if it's Quad-Damage enabled?

  109. Way to rip off Independence War by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When Star Wars dosen't give you enouch material appropriate it from somewhere else and call it "Star Wars".

    http://www.i-war2.com/ships_db10.htm
    look down at the "Spider Class Tug" then look at the G wing.

    Speaking of Independence War, I'm surprised it hasn't been on slashdot before. It allmost makes up for not having a B5 game. (and can probably be found in a bargain bin for under $10 now that it's more than a year old)

  110. Oh Yes... by whistler36 · · Score: 1

    And now the women will come. Oh yes, the women will come.

  111. C-Wing by SoulSkorpion · · Score: 1

    Does anyone else think it looks like a Kilrathi Drakkhari? (or "Dralthi", the newer version's called)