1/ the rich aren't going to care because they benifit too much from the system, they'll boycot you too (don't count on favorable news stories) 2/ for middle class the system doesn't appear to be broken, 3/ the poor know how powerful the rich and rulers are and won't believe you can change something.
I have rarely seen this much foolish stereotyping in my life. Not even from racists.
Great! I think it will be a boost to GNUstep to have more people doing cross-platform development (plus, it will help iron out the difficulties). Mostly all we have done so far is a clone of Mail.app that runs on GNUstep and MOSX. (GORM and Project Center MIGHT compile on MOSX, I don't know.)
Others in this thread have told you what the difference between Cocoa and Carbon is. I just want to let you know that should you write some good GPL'd software with Cocoa (and you should really use Cocoa rather than Carbon), PLEASE drop us the code over at the GNUstep project so we can get it running on Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris.
For those of you who don't know, GNUstep is a clone of the Cocoa API.
That's why it never succeeded (well, that and the fact that the original runtime was slow--but that's gone now). But it really is a cool language and OpenStep (err, Cocoa) is the coolest API ever. Plus, with the GNUstep project, you can compile your Cocoa applications on most UNICES and someday, even Windows and BeOS (if someone writes a GUI backend for them--you can compile non-graphical tools with it now).
They say you can use multiple computers *if* you pay them money for extra IP addresses.
No, the word 'if' was never used anywhere in that passage. Only that you could order multiple IP addresses. The people who wrote the document probably don't even know that NAT exists.
First of all this action is not brought on by the govt. It's by another corporation who got shafted by MS and now wants payback.
I know. I was referring to the earlier case by the states because this thread is about cases where charges are brought for the wrong reasons.
As for your point I think you must be kidding. The govt has so far done nothing except kiss MS ass. Their so-called punishment will be a joke and everyone knows it.
That was the end result, yes. However, there were some in government who were eager to attack Microsoft for purely political motives. That is, in fact, part of the reason why the case went so poorly. Many were attacking Microsoft for the wrong reasons and never bothered to present the good evidence for wrongdoing.
This thread is really about making sure that you use proper legal arguments in court and not emotionally-driven, 'I don't like them for extra-legal reason X' arguments.
I was fully aware of all these facts when I made my statement. What you describe (people making decisions based on self-interest) is not a 'system.' A system is an abstract construct to analyze how something works. The real nitty gritty is that people decide to devote themselves to pleasure and self-service rather than serving God and fellow human beings. A great many choose the former rather than the latter. This unwise and immoral decision is what some people refer to as 'the system.' I think it's an ambiguous and misleading term; a better term would be 'fallen human nature.'
As far as I can tell, he was making a general observation about some behavior he has seen--and not necessarily supporting Microsoft in every case they are involved in. I have to admit that *some* things brought to bear against Microsoft by our government are unfounded and this poster probably feels the same way. And even if we don't, there's our old friend, Slippery Slope, to worry about. We just need to be careful that we always act from a sense of appeal to law rather than to emotion. And we can successfully do that in this case, probably.
Think how different our country would be for the working man with a reforming, respectful, ex-POW in the big chair.
I don't have to imagine because I know: they would be exactly the same as they are now. Anyone who thinks the President is in control of our society is blind. Even the term that you use, "the big chair" implies a belief that the President is somehow "in charge" and responsible for the state of the country.
The fact is, WE are responsible for the state of the country. And no, I don't mean that we're responsible at the voting booth. We are responsible by the means of every single word, thought, and deed that we are responsible for every day. Our individual behavior, taken all together, is what shapes this nation.
The power, as they so often say, is with The People. Where most folks misunderstand this is in their conception of this collective power as being organized. That's what a union is--a group of people organizing themselves because they have a common goal. And it IS very powerful. But it's an artificial collective power.
The real collective power is disorganized and decentralized. *Individuals* make very basic decisions every day that have an enormous effect on the world around them. It's just that it gets added together with the decisions of everyone else for its final effect.
I don't know the situation, but isn't it possible that these managers were in the management position (and paid more) because they were more reliable and self-motivated people with a better work ethic? It certainly seems to me that if your 12 employees were the same kind of people that your managers (and you, it seems) were, something similar would have happened on that shift.
You are, as far as I can tell, a self-motivated and reliable person. I can guess, perhaps wrongly, that you actually got satisfaction out of the fact that you did your job well on that day. Many employees, however, do not; and I don't think it has too much to do with how much money they make. Many employees are simply lazy and have a bad attitude. If they see someone taking duty responsibly, they make fun of them: "Look at Joe over there! He's such a ****ing goody two shoes! Hey Joe! You got some brown stuff on your nose! HA HA HA HA!"
I also must say that *I'm* not heartless either. I feel pity for these people because their foolish attitude will destroy their lives. And there is no doubt that it IS foolish.
True. The moral fiber of this country is very heavily diluted. Greed and self indulgence, among other things, are taking us down the toilet. There have always been people like this but they are now in the majority.
Or not to be allowed to care by some system.
Now you're just talking a lot of rot. PEOPLE can be greedy and ruthless; and if they are, it doesn't matter what system is in place. If most people are other-focused, disciplined, and generous--then it ALSO doesn't matter what system is in place. 'The People' is where it's at. After all, where do you think government, private sector, and military leaders and staff come from?
Call it whatever you want, a copy and paste from someone who has absolutely no idea what s/he's talking about (referring to the submitter, not timothy) isn't interesting to me.
I agree. Slashdot is not the place that most people think it's supposed to be. If people realized that it was just an average public forum/rumor mill, a lot less people would come here. And--ironically--that would drastically improve the quality.
If your physical security is so weak that anybody can just go up to your server and plug a card in, *or take one out* does it matter much about the IT security aspect?
True. But most attacks are going to come over the network. Only the most dedicated spies (whether corporate or national) have the guts or resources to try for physical access. And if your server is important enough for attackers to attempt physical access, you probably have dedicated professional network administrators. And they won't be using this--unless they're MSCEs.:-)
*Sigh* For the millionth time, Slashdot is NOT a journalistic institution. Yes, I KNOW that it says 'News for Nerds.' Ignore it--it's just a cute tagline and nothing more. Slashdot is a place that links to OTHER places and that lets you see pretty much raw commentary from others. Quit whining about the declining 'journalistic quality' of Slashdot--it never had any to begin with and nobody ever pretended that it did. Sheesh.
They've been black-listing films for years, and I don't see any pipe-bomb toting militants demanding that Elementary School Spanking 16 be released or else they'll blow up the parliament building.
He seemed to be saying that people will become upset because they aren't giving out the LIST of what they're blacklisting. In other words, the exact same thing you're saying.
Is it just me, or does anybody else think that gravastar is one of the silliest sounding names they've ever heard?
How about Sinistar?
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Well, you know the saying: "Philosophy is what you do until you know enough to do science." Then again, there's also: "Science is what you do until you know enough to do philosophy." Which one you choose depends on whether you are a scientist or a philosopher....
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Man, I love Slashdot....
I have rarely seen this much foolish stereotyping in my life. Not even from racists.
As a sysadmin, I don't think that's a bad idea. If we can scare all the little script kiddies into spending their time elsewhere, that's OK by me.
Great! I think it will be a boost to GNUstep to have more people doing cross-platform development (plus, it will help iron out the difficulties). Mostly all we have done so far is a clone of Mail.app that runs on GNUstep and MOSX. (GORM and Project Center MIGHT compile on MOSX, I don't know.)
For those of you who don't know, GNUstep is a clone of the Cocoa API.
Heh, but I fooled 'em! I don't *have* a TV. No, I get all my ads from Slashdot and ezboard.com...
Check it out!
No, the word 'if' was never used anywhere in that passage. Only that you could order multiple IP addresses. The people who wrote the document probably don't even know that NAT exists.
I know. I was referring to the earlier case by the states because this thread is about cases where charges are brought for the wrong reasons.
As for your point I think you must be kidding. The govt has so far done nothing except kiss MS ass. Their so-called punishment will be a joke and everyone knows it.
That was the end result, yes. However, there were some in government who were eager to attack Microsoft for purely political motives. That is, in fact, part of the reason why the case went so poorly. Many were attacking Microsoft for the wrong reasons and never bothered to present the good evidence for wrongdoing.
This thread is really about making sure that you use proper legal arguments in court and not emotionally-driven, 'I don't like them for extra-legal reason X' arguments.
I was fully aware of all these facts when I made my statement. What you describe (people making decisions based on self-interest) is not a 'system.' A system is an abstract construct to analyze how something works. The real nitty gritty is that people decide to devote themselves to pleasure and self-service rather than serving God and fellow human beings. A great many choose the former rather than the latter. This unwise and immoral decision is what some people refer to as 'the system.' I think it's an ambiguous and misleading term; a better term would be 'fallen human nature.'
As far as I can tell, he was making a general observation about some behavior he has seen--and not necessarily supporting Microsoft in every case they are involved in. I have to admit that *some* things brought to bear against Microsoft by our government are unfounded and this poster probably feels the same way. And even if we don't, there's our old friend, Slippery Slope, to worry about. We just need to be careful that we always act from a sense of appeal to law rather than to emotion. And we can successfully do that in this case, probably.
Heh. Nice way to bring Barbie into this, considering your past. :-)
I don't have to imagine because I know: they would be exactly the same as they are now. Anyone who thinks the President is in control of our society is blind. Even the term that you use, "the big chair" implies a belief that the President is somehow "in charge" and responsible for the state of the country.
The fact is, WE are responsible for the state of the country. And no, I don't mean that we're responsible at the voting booth. We are responsible by the means of every single word, thought, and deed that we are responsible for every day. Our individual behavior, taken all together, is what shapes this nation.
The power, as they so often say, is with The People. Where most folks misunderstand this is in their conception of this collective power as being organized. That's what a union is--a group of people organizing themselves because they have a common goal. And it IS very powerful. But it's an artificial collective power.
The real collective power is disorganized and decentralized. *Individuals* make very basic decisions every day that have an enormous effect on the world around them. It's just that it gets added together with the decisions of everyone else for its final effect.
You are, as far as I can tell, a self-motivated and reliable person. I can guess, perhaps wrongly, that you actually got satisfaction out of the fact that you did your job well on that day. Many employees, however, do not; and I don't think it has too much to do with how much money they make. Many employees are simply lazy and have a bad attitude. If they see someone taking duty responsibly, they make fun of them: "Look at Joe over there! He's such a ****ing goody two shoes! Hey Joe! You got some brown stuff on your nose! HA HA HA HA!"
I also must say that *I'm* not heartless either. I feel pity for these people because their foolish attitude will destroy their lives. And there is no doubt that it IS foolish.
True. The moral fiber of this country is very heavily diluted. Greed and self indulgence, among other things, are taking us down the toilet. There have always been people like this but they are now in the majority.
Or not to be allowed to care by some system.
Now you're just talking a lot of rot. PEOPLE can be greedy and ruthless; and if they are, it doesn't matter what system is in place. If most people are other-focused, disciplined, and generous--then it ALSO doesn't matter what system is in place. 'The People' is where it's at. After all, where do you think government, private sector, and military leaders and staff come from?
I agree. Slashdot is not the place that most people think it's supposed to be. If people realized that it was just an average public forum/rumor mill, a lot less people would come here. And--ironically--that would drastically improve the quality.
True. But most attacks are going to come over the network. Only the most dedicated spies (whether corporate or national) have the guts or resources to try for physical access. And if your server is important enough for attackers to attempt physical access, you probably have dedicated professional network administrators. And they won't be using this--unless they're MSCEs. :-)
*Sigh* For the millionth time, Slashdot is NOT a journalistic institution. Yes, I KNOW that it says 'News for Nerds.' Ignore it--it's just a cute tagline and nothing more. Slashdot is a place that links to OTHER places and that lets you see pretty much raw commentary from others. Quit whining about the declining 'journalistic quality' of Slashdot--it never had any to begin with and nobody ever pretended that it did. Sheesh.
He seemed to be saying that people will become upset because they aren't giving out the LIST of what they're blacklisting. In other words, the exact same thing you're saying.
It's not the OS we need to worry about. It's their implementation into Congress and the UN that's scary.
Yes, they might be dorks. But you can't buy food/house/car with self respect, neither send your kids to colledge...
Come on, AOL isn't the only place to get a job you know...
How about Sinistar?
Well, you know the saying: "Philosophy is what you do until you know enough to do science." Then again, there's also: "Science is what you do until you know enough to do philosophy." Which one you choose depends on whether you are a scientist or a philosopher....
Well, he should just do like I did--and download it before it's announced!
Yeah, but I still feel constrained by the KDE/GNOME/Windows user experience. It's nothing like using good old NeXTSTEP. :-)
Errr, Phillips *does* own a record label. I have several CDs on their label.