I thought fair use was for allowing derivative work.
Anyway, I hardly think that matters.
You're basically stating that if I were to use a small fraction of a media format, it's not under fair use - when it clearly is. A thumbnail is *not* the whole image. Particularly Google's thumbs, which are 142px on their largest side. Even for something as small as a 320x200 low res shot of someone, that's 1/4 of the image, any way you try to wiggle out of it, and far too small to be useful for anything but a thumbnail.
Of course, these are all images that are publicly displayed - and as such, fall smack into the fair use category.
By the by: if you have an artist paint in the missing detail in a clean-room setting (ie: the artist has never seen the orignial), the new work belongs to the artist.
You're missing the point, man. If you were to compare this to a novel, it'd be like taking the sentence from each page and making a page of that.
Or, more cognitively, the cliff's notes of a book: you get the whole story, but not the interesting (or not - there's a reason cliff's notes exist) details.
It's not the entire image. Technically, it's a grid of small parts of the image, averaged together. You lose a LOT of the original image that way.
Put it this way: Say the original image is 1024x768 in size, and the thumbnail is 160x120. That's 786,432 pixels of image versus 19,200 pixels, or 1/40th of the image.
I think 1/40th falls well under fair use, don't you?
That's one of those 'Who decides' issues, so I'll leave it.
But I like an idea in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"
The Senate's entire function is to pass laws by ceil(2/3*SenatePopulation)+1 majority. The House's entire function is to repeal laws by floor(1/3*HousePopulation)+1 minority.
Yeah. Microsoft, Look and Feel is not actionable - otherwise Apple would have had your ass years ago. Drop those claims first.
Moving along: detail the rest of 'em, and we'll give a shit. No seriously. You can't just say, "You infringe on 25 of my patents. Can I have my licensing fee now?"
It doesn't work like that.
Of course, the reason MS won't name names is that they want their license fees. They don't want Linux and its related projects going, "Ok, we'll code around that, thanks."
"So? With work, it could have a higher refresh rate."
In e-Ink, the refresh rate is dictated by the physics of tiny little 'painted' electrically conductive beads in a thin layer of surfactant. I'm sure they could change the rules a bit by changing materials, but I'm more intersted in improving the manufacturing process and reducing cost of materials in order to get a nice consumer-friendly price point - otherwise they can't obtain the funds to do further research into the project.
Nope, he doesn't seem to have a problem here. He's laughing at me. Of course, I'm not very good at 'urban'ness.
Oh, and he says, "*grin* Al Sharpton's a scavaengerpimp.", and "Fuck that nappy-haired Jesse Jackson. He can suck my nuts at daybreak."
He's actually got a really funny rant about Sharpton.
By the way, they're offended, and thus, oversensitive. Sharpton and Jackson are, personality-wise, boundary conditions - extreme cases, if you will. They are by no means representative of any of their arbitrary groupings. Similarly, asshats like Pat Robertson aren't representative of christianity, and George Bush isn't representative of Americans.
Most people have a goddamned sense of humor. If you don't, then I'm very sorry for you and those around you.
Yeah. 'Cos you can prepare for a crazy dude bent on filling an elementary school full of lead. Who the hell thought this neurosis-inducing plan might be a good idea?
If you don't speak engrish, it's not directed at you.
Engrish sounds like that; I've heard enough new Japanese->English speakers talk to know that. Applying the same rules to spanglish (Scrubs does this constantly) or 'ebonics' ("I speak Jive") works exactly the same way.
Again, it comes down to: If you're offended, you're oversensitive. Get over yourself.
I'm actually *related* to italian mafioso (though not involved), and I don't give a half-shit about this. Mafia implies italians about as much as Nazi implies germans. It's a specific group of Not-Very-Nice people, and these days, they're of any race creed or color. Use it in that fashion and the implication fades.
No, seriously. If your offended, your oversensitive. Shut up and deal with it.
It's for changable print, not video. video refreshes 30-60 times per second, this stuff isn't capable of a refresh rate faster than about 1/2 FPS.
I wouldn't mind an eBook using it, though; I could store an entire library on an SD card, and read it at my leisure without glaring into a damned screen.
Meanwhile, the difference between 'cult' and 'religion' is only that of popularity. Microsoft hasn't had a cult mentality since they struck their first IBM deal; Microsoft adherence is too popular to be cultist, and as such it is religion. Something that the general public does unquestioningly.
Though, as with actual religion, I'm atheistic about software providers. Give me what works best, and I'll use that. Or hell, give me something that works, and I'll work with it. But don't expect me to stick to one platform or another - I'll try 'em all and see what I like to use best.
Which, presently, is Linux - though I have Windows and OS-X boxes around for my job (freelance web developer). I need to test things on Safari and IE (and please don't suggest IE under WINE; it just doesn't work the same - the dx filters don't work, and neither do transparent gifs).
My laptop runs Kubuntu, and that's what I presently love. OS-X has its finer points (the everything-is-a-drop-target-or-draggable idea is great), as does Windows (I don't care what you say about the registry, a centralized hierarchical settings database makes sense to me - though it would be awesome if it were implemented as a well-written COM object, where methods and properties are directly linked to registry entries, instead of the stupidly set up enumerators. That said, I'd like it if filesystems worked that way, too.
Ooh. I just had a great idea for a fully objective subsystem. Start with the 'everything is a file' idea, and move it to 'everything is an object')
I'll give you an argument about copyright and patent that makes a little bit of sense:
They are innovative gravity.
In the quick-assembly creative sector (music, for example), copyright only acts as a buffer against plagarism. For things that take a lot of time and effort to produce - movies, books, etc - it acts as a form of gravity; it pulls money towards the author after the creative work is made.
Unfortunately, it also has the effect of pulling pretty bad creators into the creative process, hence Brittney Spears and the movie version of Battlefield Earth.
Now, moving on to patents: in terms of inventions and drugs, it's a good thing; you wouldn't get the kind of money invested in either without that 17 year buffer of return on the investment.
On software, it's pointless: Software problems are easily solved with little money, and are solved with the desire to sell product. In closed-source companies, patent protection is at best meaningless, or at worst a way to attack other companies by twisting the original meaning of a patent to suit the target; the algorithms to do a certain thing are hidden anyway.
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> Except only computer people use those units. SI prefixes are factors of 10^x where x is an integer (typically a multiple of 3)
Yeah. So an industry that build computer parts shouldn't be asked to use the units almost all of their customers work in.
Are you high?
Heh.
I just wish there were a KHTML based browser for Windows. That would rock.
I thought fair use was for allowing derivative work.
Anyway, I hardly think that matters.
You're basically stating that if I were to use a small fraction of a media format, it's not under fair use - when it clearly is. A thumbnail is *not* the whole image. Particularly Google's thumbs, which are 142px on their largest side. Even for something as small as a 320x200 low res shot of someone, that's 1/4 of the image, any way you try to wiggle out of it, and far too small to be useful for anything but a thumbnail.
Of course, these are all images that are publicly displayed - and as such, fall smack into the fair use category.
By the by: if you have an artist paint in the missing detail in a clean-room setting (ie: the artist has never seen the orignial), the new work belongs to the artist.
You're missing the point, man. If you were to compare this to a novel, it'd be like taking the sentence from each page and making a page of that.
Or, more cognitively, the cliff's notes of a book: you get the whole story, but not the interesting (or not - there's a reason cliff's notes exist) details.
It's not the entire image. Technically, it's a grid of small parts of the image, averaged together. You lose a LOT of the original image that way.
Put it this way: Say the original image is 1024x768 in size, and the thumbnail is 160x120. That's 786,432 pixels of image versus 19,200 pixels, or 1/40th of the image.
I think 1/40th falls well under fair use, don't you?
That would be correct. I just stated it in the direct math to avoid vagueness.
That's one of those 'Who decides' issues, so I'll leave it.
But I like an idea in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"
The Senate's entire function is to pass laws by ceil(2/3*SenatePopulation)+1 majority. The House's entire function is to repeal laws by floor(1/3*HousePopulation)+1 minority.
See how many bad laws stay on the books then.
Funny. In 1929, a 'click' sounds like it's a method for causing a 'sqeek' noise.
'cept IBM seems ready to defend Linux and other OSS tooth and nail against frivilous patent claims like these.
Yeah. Microsoft, Look and Feel is not actionable - otherwise Apple would have had your ass years ago. Drop those claims first.
Moving along: detail the rest of 'em, and we'll give a shit. No seriously. You can't just say, "You infringe on 25 of my patents. Can I have my licensing fee now?"
It doesn't work like that.
Of course, the reason MS won't name names is that they want their license fees. They don't want Linux and its related projects going, "Ok, we'll code around that, thanks."
"The only difference this time is that the Attorney General is attempting to submit the law himself to give it more credibility."
Like Gonzales has any credibility left.
Of course, attempted murder *doesn't* have a life sentence in most instances.
"So? With work, it could have a higher refresh rate."
In e-Ink, the refresh rate is dictated by the physics of tiny little 'painted' electrically conductive beads in a thin layer of surfactant. I'm sure they could change the rules a bit by changing materials, but I'm more intersted in improving the manufacturing process and reducing cost of materials in order to get a nice consumer-friendly price point - otherwise they can't obtain the funds to do further research into the project.
Let me check.
*speaks jive to Ed*
Nope, he doesn't seem to have a problem here. He's laughing at me. Of course, I'm not very good at 'urban'ness.
Oh, and he says, "*grin* Al Sharpton's a scavaengerpimp.", and "Fuck that nappy-haired Jesse Jackson. He can suck my nuts at daybreak."
He's actually got a really funny rant about Sharpton.
By the way, they're offended, and thus, oversensitive. Sharpton and Jackson are, personality-wise, boundary conditions - extreme cases, if you will. They are by no means representative of any of their arbitrary groupings. Similarly, asshats like Pat Robertson aren't representative of christianity, and George Bush isn't representative of Americans.
Most people have a goddamned sense of humor. If you don't, then I'm very sorry for you and those around you.
*laughs hard at you*
*blinks*
Yeah. 'Cos you can prepare for a crazy dude bent on filling an elementary school full of lead. Who the hell thought this neurosis-inducing plan might be a good idea?
Um. They're talking government offices, not home systems. Sony will have nothing to say because Sony doesn't give a shit.
Not to mention that Sony has linux builds for its consoles; they have no problem with Linux at all.
Linux pickup this year *has* accelerated, primarily with Feisty's release.
Just a note. Whether or not this is the year of the Linux Desktop is questionable, but last month was the Month of Feisty.
If you don't speak engrish, it's not directed at you.
Engrish sounds like that; I've heard enough new Japanese->English speakers talk to know that. Applying the same rules to spanglish (Scrubs does this constantly) or 'ebonics' ("I speak Jive") works exactly the same way.
Again, it comes down to: If you're offended, you're oversensitive. Get over yourself.
Ah, get over it.
I'm actually *related* to italian mafioso (though not involved), and I don't give a half-shit about this. Mafia implies italians about as much as Nazi implies germans. It's a specific group of Not-Very-Nice people, and these days, they're of any race creed or color. Use it in that fashion and the implication fades.
No, seriously. If your offended, your oversensitive. Shut up and deal with it.
"non Brits say it must be terrible being at the Royal's bidding"
You're kidding, yeah? Non brits actually think this?
Heh. Take solice in that some of us know that they're little more than morale-boosting figureheads.
It's for changable print, not video. video refreshes 30-60 times per second, this stuff isn't capable of a refresh rate faster than about 1/2 FPS.
I wouldn't mind an eBook using it, though; I could store an entire library on an SD card, and read it at my leisure without glaring into a damned screen.
Meanwhile, the difference between 'cult' and 'religion' is only that of popularity. Microsoft hasn't had a cult mentality since they struck their first IBM deal; Microsoft adherence is too popular to be cultist, and as such it is religion. Something that the general public does unquestioningly.
Though, as with actual religion, I'm atheistic about software providers. Give me what works best, and I'll use that. Or hell, give me something that works, and I'll work with it. But don't expect me to stick to one platform or another - I'll try 'em all and see what I like to use best.
Which, presently, is Linux - though I have Windows and OS-X boxes around for my job (freelance web developer). I need to test things on Safari and IE (and please don't suggest IE under WINE; it just doesn't work the same - the dx filters don't work, and neither do transparent gifs).
My laptop runs Kubuntu, and that's what I presently love. OS-X has its finer points (the everything-is-a-drop-target-or-draggable idea is great), as does Windows (I don't care what you say about the registry, a centralized hierarchical settings database makes sense to me - though it would be awesome if it were implemented as a well-written COM object, where methods and properties are directly linked to registry entries, instead of the stupidly set up enumerators. That said, I'd like it if filesystems worked that way, too.
Ooh. I just had a great idea for a fully objective subsystem. Start with the 'everything is a file' idea, and move it to 'everything is an object')
I'll give you an argument about copyright and patent that makes a little bit of sense:
They are innovative gravity.
In the quick-assembly creative sector (music, for example), copyright only acts as a buffer against plagarism. For things that take a lot of time and effort to produce - movies, books, etc - it acts as a form of gravity; it pulls money towards the author after the creative work is made.
Unfortunately, it also has the effect of pulling pretty bad creators into the creative process, hence Brittney Spears and the movie version of Battlefield Earth.
Now, moving on to patents: in terms of inventions and drugs, it's a good thing; you wouldn't get the kind of money invested in either without that 17 year buffer of return on the investment.
On software, it's pointless: Software problems are easily solved with little money, and are solved with the desire to sell product. In closed-source companies, patent protection is at best meaningless, or at worst a way to attack other companies by twisting the original meaning of a patent to suit the target; the algorithms to do a certain thing are hidden anyway.
None of your pretty pictures work, troll.
Post something relevant to the conversation, or GTFO.