The US government does not regard Israel as
a terrorist state. That might be Israel doesn't
go around bombing busy restaurants. It might
also be because compared to her neighbors,
Israel is a girl scout.
Yup. And we have the Kennedys to "thank"
for the lack of prosecutorial action, but
also the Irish republic for turning a blind
eye and also the UK. They all turn a blind
eye to Sinn Fein. For the record, I'm half
Irish, Catholic descent, and I despise
Sinn Fein.
Yes, the Koran says Jews and Christians should
be tolerated. So what? Do you think Muslims
always follow the Kuran? The history is a mixed
bag, and Muslim-Jewish relations are strained largely
because Muslims are having trouble adjusting
to relations in which Jews see themselves as
equal. That remains to be addressed.
Jews in Muslim lands fared better than those
in Europe, until the 1700's, when the tables
turned in the other direction. Not that
this is all that relevant. Jews were still
third-class citizens in the Muslim lands the
entire time, and in the year 2001 no Jew
will settle for anything short of full equality.
As for my facts, yes, I am a scholar of
Mideast history and Jewish history.
Okay, then, I don't have much to disagree with
you, then, except this: the UN did not create
Israel. The UN took a vote and made some speeches.
A bunch of ornery Jews in the Mideast created
Israel.
First of all, Kahanist (i.e. Jewish militant)
groups are regularly
described as radical, findamentalist, and
militant, in the US media. These terms are
not reserved to Muslims. The IRA is also
called by these terms. Second of all, there
is a difference between running a religious
charity and running a front to move money
to groups that lay bombs.
I assume you are the first AC who started
this cascade. You claimed Jewish-Muslim
relations were fine until 1948. I gave
you several pointers to show that relations
were not fine. Are you going to concede
the point?
Is that what your teachers told you?
Do you not know about the massacres of
1929, 1936, and 1941? Do you not know about
the Code of Omar? Read Mark Twain's book
"Innocents Abroad" about the status of Jews
among Arabs in the 1860's. It was not a pretty
picture.
Jewish-Muslim relations are strained because
for centuries these relations were dictated
by Sharia Law, which placed Jews in a submissive
position. A good portion of the Muslim community
of the US regards Jews as if they (well, we)
have cooties, and this won't change any time
soon. At least since the US has never been under
Sharia, Muslims and Jews can try to build
relations that are not based on Sharia.
The Mideast, however, was under Sharia law,
and there are fatwas that explicitly forbid
having equality with Jews in the region.
Since Jews won't settle for less than equality
nowadays, the Mideast is a hot potato.
You are free to be a sympathizer. But if you
funnel money to Hamas, or raise a sufficient
suspicion to persuade a judge that you are
funneling money to them, expect to be searched.
No, radical Muslims target the US because
the US is the current HQ of the Jewish-Masonic
conspiracy that toppled the Ottoman Caliphate
in 1918.
I am not kidding. THis is what they believe.
Ahmad Thomson's "Dajjal the Antichrist" is
the book that goes into details about this
conspiracy. Great reading, if you're stoned.
And the search was probably justified. Muslim
terrorist groups use fronts disguised as charities
to move money around, and the Holy Land Foundation
has long been suspected of being a financial front
for Hamas. Since HLF uses the Web to collect
donations by way of credit cards, a search of the
Web hosting company is legit.
It's been my experience that Americans are
more receptive to criticism by foreigners than
citizens of other nations. For proof, look at
the moderators in this thread. So, chill out,
Archie.
A lot of people are being left behind
in the computer age because they are old
and thus find it hard to learn an entire
new vocabulary for dealing with computers.
But that is not the problem kids have.
Age 18 is not too old to catch this wave.
Kids have other disadvantages in need of redress:
if they can't write clearly, they come off as
idiots in email. If they can't read,
they're toast. If they don't have a good base
of general knowledge and a good grasp on
highbrow (i.e. technical or literate) English,
they're toast. Laptops don't solve any of these
problems, which means laptops don't
close the real digital divide.
1. What do you call a student who knows the
laptops better than the teachers? "Hacker."
Comes to mind. That and zero-tolerance should
make for some interesting war stories in the
letters section of the next 2600 issue.
2. Muggers, burglars, and other scalawags
and vagabonds will be making their way
to Maine some time soon. There is probably
good money to be had from robbing the students.
3. How much class time will be devoted to
waiting for everyone's software to boot up?
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The US government does not regard Israel as a terrorist state. That might be Israel doesn't go around bombing busy restaurants. It might also be because compared to her neighbors, Israel is a girl scout.
Ya habibi, do you dispute any of
my assertions of fact? Have you read
the sources I could refer you to?
Yup. And we have the Kennedys to "thank"
for the lack of prosecutorial action, but
also the Irish republic for turning a blind
eye and also the UK. They all turn a blind
eye to Sinn Fein. For the record, I'm half
Irish, Catholic descent, and I despise
Sinn Fein.
Yes, the Koran says Jews and Christians should be tolerated. So what? Do you think Muslims always follow the Kuran? The history is a mixed bag, and Muslim-Jewish relations are strained largely because Muslims are having trouble adjusting to relations in which Jews see themselves as equal. That remains to be addressed.
Jews in Muslim lands fared better than those in Europe, until the 1700's, when the tables turned in the other direction. Not that this is all that relevant. Jews were still third-class citizens in the Muslim lands the entire time, and in the year 2001 no Jew will settle for anything short of full equality.
As for my facts, yes, I am a scholar of Mideast history and Jewish history.
Okay, then, I don't have much to disagree with
you, then, except this: the UN did not create
Israel. The UN took a vote and made some speeches.
A bunch of ornery Jews in the Mideast created
Israel.
First of all, Kahanist (i.e. Jewish militant) groups are regularly described as radical, findamentalist, and militant, in the US media. These terms are not reserved to Muslims. The IRA is also called by these terms. Second of all, there is a difference between running a religious charity and running a front to move money to groups that lay bombs.
I assume you are the first AC who started
this cascade. You claimed Jewish-Muslim
relations were fine until 1948. I gave
you several pointers to show that relations
were not fine. Are you going to concede
the point?
These anonymous cowards are crazy!
Is that what your teachers told you?
Do you not know about the massacres of
1929, 1936, and 1941? Do you not know about
the Code of Omar? Read Mark Twain's book
"Innocents Abroad" about the status of Jews
among Arabs in the 1860's. It was not a pretty
picture.
Hamas is fighting to subject Jews to
Ahl-al Dhimma in their own homeland.
Tahia Israil!
Jewish-Muslim relations are strained because for centuries these relations were dictated by Sharia Law, which placed Jews in a submissive position. A good portion of the Muslim community of the US regards Jews as if they (well, we) have cooties, and this won't change any time soon. At least since the US has never been under Sharia, Muslims and Jews can try to build relations that are not based on Sharia. The Mideast, however, was under Sharia law, and there are fatwas that explicitly forbid having equality with Jews in the region. Since Jews won't settle for less than equality nowadays, the Mideast is a hot potato.
You are free to be a sympathizer. But if you
funnel money to Hamas, or raise a sufficient
suspicion to persuade a judge that you are
funneling money to them, expect to be searched.
This isn't rocket science.
Lay off the Chomsky, bub.
Do some more reading before
you call Uncle Sam a terrorist.
No, radical Muslims target the US because
the US is the current HQ of the Jewish-Masonic
conspiracy that toppled the Ottoman Caliphate
in 1918.
I am not kidding. THis is what they believe.
Ahmad Thomson's "Dajjal the Antichrist" is
the book that goes into details about this
conspiracy. Great reading, if you're stoned.
The site involved was hinduunity.org.
And the search was probably justified. Muslim
terrorist groups use fronts disguised as charities
to move money around, and the Holy Land Foundation
has long been suspected of being a financial front
for Hamas. Since HLF uses the Web to collect
donations by way of credit cards, a search of the
Web hosting company is legit.
For full effect, use avian transport for the
TCP/IP packets. And write an interface to this
so that you can use it for SetiAtHome.
No. My cynicism is omnipresent.
It's been my experience that Americans are more receptive to criticism by foreigners than citizens of other nations. For proof, look at the moderators in this thread. So, chill out, Archie.
Feel free to write the INS and ask
them to eport me on the grounds of your
low opinion of me. They'll keep the letter
on file.
A lot of people are being left behind in the computer age because they are old and thus find it hard to learn an entire new vocabulary for dealing with computers. But that is not the problem kids have. Age 18 is not too old to catch this wave. Kids have other disadvantages in need of redress: if they can't write clearly, they come off as idiots in email. If they can't read, they're toast. If they don't have a good base of general knowledge and a good grasp on highbrow (i.e. technical or literate) English, they're toast. Laptops don't solve any of these problems, which means laptops don't close the real digital divide.
1. What do you call a student who knows the
laptops better than the teachers? "Hacker."
Comes to mind. That and zero-tolerance should
make for some interesting war stories in the
letters section of the next 2600 issue.
2. Muggers, burglars, and other scalawags
and vagabonds will be making their way
to Maine some time soon. There is probably
good money to be had from robbing the students.
3. How much class time will be devoted to
waiting for everyone's software to boot up?
All they did was wreck the laptops? What fools.
The proper thing to do is fence them on the
black market.
'nuff said.