Good point. You wouldn't. And the PS3 has sold a gazillion units, so there's lots of people who wouldn't. There are, however, lots of people like me, who have not purchased an xbox, a ps3 a wii or any other gaming device in some time--the last one I bought was a Sega Genesis, which doesn't play anything but its own games. Some of us bought Rokus, some Apple TVs, and some built their own devices. Google and their vendors are trying to catch what they see as the mainstream market--really the late adopters--who haven't done any of the above.
They see the ability to lock it down as a feature. Free and open means you can do what you want with it; what you're buying from Motorola is their version of Android which is less free and less open, because that's what they chose to do when they exercised their freedom.
Can I keep my big SUV if I drive it less than 6000 miles per year? People are always looking at problems in the most simplistic ways. Yes, I've got an SUV that only gets 24MPG, but I also only use it when I need it. I haven't had an automotive commute in nearly 10 years, with a combination of working from home and using public trans (BART) when I worked in SF. I'd hold my carbon footprint up against any two-hour-per-day-commuting Prius driver's.
Not to rant, but even my parents, who are pretty sharp, fall into the zealot category. When I told them about my new car, they practically freaked out that I would be satisfied with anything less than 48 MPG. On the other hand, they drive to their local grocery store, three blocks away, nearly every day. Need some milk? Drive. Need some eggs? Let's drive again. Toilet paper? You get the idea. We do one trip a week to the big grocery store a few miles away, and the rest of our stuff, I buy at the local TJs at the apex of my daily walks with my dog. Of course, at least they're doing it in a Prius, so that's great, but hell, glass houses, anyone?
Point is, nobody, but nobody walks on water (well, maybe these guys do), but it's time that we all spend more time trying to do better ourselves in our own way than judging other people.
Work: Circle with a wedge cut out, named Pac-Man, in the greater context of a maze-dot-ghost-fruit-powerup game.
Copy: Circle with a wedge cut out, named, alternately Superpac or pacman, in the greater context of an identical maze.dot-ghost-fruit-powerup game.
Derivative work (maybe): Circle with a wedge cut out, wearing a hat, called Cap-Guy. Even better would be if that character were in the context of a Zaxxon-style 3/4-perspective scrolling shoot-em-up.
IANAL, of course, but my understanding is that even if you painstakingly reproduce every element of something, that makes it a copy, not a derivative work.
Let's not forget, of course, that Namco was sued by the makers of Corn Nuts. They that Pac Man was an infringement on their logo--a circle with a curved (i.e. smiling) wedge cut out. I don't recall if that was a copyright or trademark suit, but there was indeed a suit, although clearly it did not end with the destruction of Pac-Man.
For some reason, your post reminded me of a movie that came out at the same time that Disney's Lion King came out on DVD. This other movie--a straight-to-DVD release--was called (small letters) Larry the (HUGE LETTERS) LION (newline) KING (small letters) of the Jungle.
I wonder how many people got suckered into buying or renting that when they meant to get the "real thing".
1- She doesn't care about having the latest-and-greatest.
2- She's really quite utilitarian about her laptop; and is far less careful about dropping it, spilling things on it, etc. We both feel a little less bad about a $1000 laptop falling quickly into disrepair if it's not new out of the box.
More likely, it was a mistake, or a poor judgement call of one user. It's happened before, and lots of rejections have been re-instated without much fuss. Dollars to donuts, I'll bet this one gets approved just fine, and probably would have even without this level of outrage.
Actually, "we think..." might be core to Apple's success, but not for the reason the GP implies. Maybe they only release products where they can say that with some level of sincerity. Do you think that ANYONE at Microsoft thought about the Kin, "We think this is the best solution"? Or WebTV? Or PlaysForSure? They may have been able to say, "This is an also-ran means of allowing us to capitalize on the innovations of others."
And other companies? I'll bet Google engineers have thought that about their products. But Dell? HP? Hell, HP even sold branded iPods a few years back, because they couldn't make a music player that would come anywhere close to the iPod's popularity.
Hm. I like apple products, and some here have accused me of being a fanatic. But looking at my history, it's more like this:
Year 1: buy $1100 laptop. Give old laptop to wife.
Year 2: remain happy with laptop.
Year 3: remain happy with laptop.
Year 4: remain happy with laptop.
Year 5: Wife spills coffee on her laptop. Give "new" laptop to wife, buy $1100 laptop.
All years: Consider phone, put it off for a year because work pays for crappy blackberry.
This past year: Consider iPad, put it off for the time being.
Apparently, it's even worse if the dog is black. I have read that a devout muslim considers black dogs, as I understand it, to be something akin to demon spawn. Can't provide the book reference offhand, but I recall it seeming somewhat authoritative; take it for what you will.
While the ban of liquids is stupid and pointless, the fact that you Coke can isn't treated like a bomb is a very poor argument against it. The idea is that if the TSA is consistent about not allowing any liquids through the checkpoints then the liquids people have with them won't be explosives because no one will bother trying to sneak liquid explosives onto the planes.
Ah, but they're not consistent. If you have the liquids in small enough containers, they let them through. So all you need is for several people to carry on several vials to have enough for a real explosive. Also, if you have a small child, they'll wave all sorts of things through. I was traveling with my toddler a while back and they made me toss out my full-size toothpaste, but let us through with all the soymilk, frozen breastmilk and juice we were carrying for the journey (between me and my wife, probably close to a half-gallon).
And if they thought your can of Coke was really a threat, then why don't they treat you like a threat when they find it? Instead they just demand that you throw the POTENTIAL LIQUID EXPLOSIVE into a garbage can next to them.
Well, duh. If the garbage can explodes when they throw your Coke into it then they know it was a bomb, otherwise you're free to go.
No, if the garbage can explodes when they throw your Coke into it, that just means that the last guy threw pop rocks in it. Duh indeed.
About 30% of that is wrong, another 30% of it is certainly nowhere near Apple-specific. The remaining amount may be correct, but is presented in a black-and-white manner without context that clearly indicates your bias and unwillingness to consider any viewpoints other than your own.
What I'm getting at here is that the arguments against the Apple walled garden have been hashed and re-hashed uncountable times, and the responses have been made, often in an equally zealous and unproductive manner. If you still don't understand that other people have perfectly valid preferences which don't agree with your own, that is your own failing not anybody else's. To imply that someone is faulty just because they don't agree with you is disingenuous at best.
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Good point. You wouldn't. And the PS3 has sold a gazillion units, so there's lots of people who wouldn't. There are, however, lots of people like me, who have not purchased an xbox, a ps3 a wii or any other gaming device in some time--the last one I bought was a Sega Genesis, which doesn't play anything but its own games. Some of us bought Rokus, some Apple TVs, and some built their own devices. Google and their vendors are trying to catch what they see as the mainstream market--really the late adopters--who haven't done any of the above.
Well, the military has a great healthcare system. Perhaps we should expand that to the populace as well...
They see the ability to lock it down as a feature. Free and open means you can do what you want with it; what you're buying from Motorola is their version of Android which is less free and less open, because that's what they chose to do when they exercised their freedom.
I'll tell you how much outrage is needed: none. Resubmit, appeal, maybe write a clever note to Steve Jobs.
I thought that album was basically a bunch of U2 recordings with urban sounds mixed over them, and that's why they were sued...
Can I keep my big SUV if I drive it less than 6000 miles per year? People are always looking at problems in the most simplistic ways. Yes, I've got an SUV that only gets 24MPG, but I also only use it when I need it. I haven't had an automotive commute in nearly 10 years, with a combination of working from home and using public trans (BART) when I worked in SF. I'd hold my carbon footprint up against any two-hour-per-day-commuting Prius driver's.
Not to rant, but even my parents, who are pretty sharp, fall into the zealot category. When I told them about my new car, they practically freaked out that I would be satisfied with anything less than 48 MPG. On the other hand, they drive to their local grocery store, three blocks away, nearly every day. Need some milk? Drive. Need some eggs? Let's drive again. Toilet paper? You get the idea. We do one trip a week to the big grocery store a few miles away, and the rest of our stuff, I buy at the local TJs at the apex of my daily walks with my dog. Of course, at least they're doing it in a Prius, so that's great, but hell, glass houses, anyone?
Point is, nobody, but nobody walks on water (well, maybe these guys do), but it's time that we all spend more time trying to do better ourselves in our own way than judging other people.
Woah. I think some of those pictures are stuck squarely in the uncanny valley.
Work: Circle with a wedge cut out, named Pac-Man, in the greater context of a maze-dot-ghost-fruit-powerup game.
Copy: Circle with a wedge cut out, named, alternately Superpac or pacman, in the greater context of an identical maze.dot-ghost-fruit-powerup game.
Derivative work (maybe): Circle with a wedge cut out, wearing a hat, called Cap-Guy. Even better would be if that character were in the context of a Zaxxon-style 3/4-perspective scrolling shoot-em-up.
IANAL, of course, but my understanding is that even if you painstakingly reproduce every element of something, that makes it a copy, not a derivative work.
Let's not forget, of course, that Namco was sued by the makers of Corn Nuts. They that Pac Man was an infringement on their logo--a circle with a curved (i.e. smiling) wedge cut out. I don't recall if that was a copyright or trademark suit, but there was indeed a suit, although clearly it did not end with the destruction of Pac-Man.
For some reason, your post reminded me of a movie that came out at the same time that Disney's Lion King came out on DVD. This other movie--a straight-to-DVD release--was called (small letters) Larry the (HUGE LETTERS) LION (newline) KING (small letters) of the Jungle.
I wonder how many people got suckered into buying or renting that when they meant to get the "real thing".
1- She doesn't care about having the latest-and-greatest.
2- She's really quite utilitarian about her laptop; and is far less careful about dropping it, spilling things on it, etc. We both feel a little less bad about a $1000 laptop falling quickly into disrepair if it's not new out of the box.
More likely, it was a mistake, or a poor judgement call of one user. It's happened before, and lots of rejections have been re-instated without much fuss. Dollars to donuts, I'll bet this one gets approved just fine, and probably would have even without this level of outrage.
Actually, "we think..." might be core to Apple's success, but not for the reason the GP implies. Maybe they only release products where they can say that with some level of sincerity. Do you think that ANYONE at Microsoft thought about the Kin, "We think this is the best solution"? Or WebTV? Or PlaysForSure? They may have been able to say, "This is an also-ran means of allowing us to capitalize on the innovations of others."
And other companies? I'll bet Google engineers have thought that about their products. But Dell? HP? Hell, HP even sold branded iPods a few years back, because they couldn't make a music player that would come anywhere close to the iPod's popularity.
Hm. I like apple products, and some here have accused me of being a fanatic. But looking at my history, it's more like this:
Year 1: buy $1100 laptop. Give old laptop to wife.
Year 2: remain happy with laptop.
Year 3: remain happy with laptop.
Year 4: remain happy with laptop.
Year 5: Wife spills coffee on her laptop. Give "new" laptop to wife, buy $1100 laptop.
All years: Consider phone, put it off for a year because work pays for crappy blackberry.
This past year: Consider iPad, put it off for the time being.
I guess I'm just not enough of a zealot.
Apparently, it's even worse if the dog is black. I have read that a devout muslim considers black dogs, as I understand it, to be something akin to demon spawn. Can't provide the book reference offhand, but I recall it seeming somewhat authoritative; take it for what you will.
While the ban of liquids is stupid and pointless, the fact that you Coke can isn't treated like a bomb is a very poor argument against it. The idea is that if the TSA is consistent about not allowing any liquids through the checkpoints then the liquids people have with them won't be explosives because no one will bother trying to sneak liquid explosives onto the planes.
Ah, but they're not consistent. If you have the liquids in small enough containers, they let them through. So all you need is for several people to carry on several vials to have enough for a real explosive. Also, if you have a small child, they'll wave all sorts of things through. I was traveling with my toddler a while back and they made me toss out my full-size toothpaste, but let us through with all the soymilk, frozen breastmilk and juice we were carrying for the journey (between me and my wife, probably close to a half-gallon).
And if they thought your can of Coke was really a threat, then why don't they treat you like a threat when they find it? Instead they just demand that you throw the POTENTIAL LIQUID EXPLOSIVE into a garbage can next to them.
Well, duh. If the garbage can explodes when they throw your Coke into it then they know it was a bomb, otherwise you're free to go.
No, if the garbage can explodes when they throw your Coke into it, that just means that the last guy threw pop rocks in it. Duh indeed.
What do you think I'm thinking right now?
They meant to say, "your doing of it is wrong", which, while stilted, is grammatically correct.
That's true. You could have voted LOLbertarian.
PC/GEOS? My fave was GEOS for the C64.
memer is meme-ing.
About 30% of that is wrong, another 30% of it is certainly nowhere near Apple-specific. The remaining amount may be correct, but is presented in a black-and-white manner without context that clearly indicates your bias and unwillingness to consider any viewpoints other than your own.
What I'm getting at here is that the arguments against the Apple walled garden have been hashed and re-hashed uncountable times, and the responses have been made, often in an equally zealous and unproductive manner. If you still don't understand that other people have perfectly valid preferences which don't agree with your own, that is your own failing not anybody else's. To imply that someone is faulty just because they don't agree with you is disingenuous at best.
Or a Skype-In number.
Except the Beatles didn't have to resort to autotune.
Something about this imagery makes me LOL. Of course, I think of an ottoman going with my couch, not with a deck chair.