Maybe because the labor to build and service the robots is still so much cheaper in China? I don't know, just one of many possible reasons. Great question, though.
ARM chips are still slower than the PowerPC chips Apple moved away from in 2005.
With what transistor count and power envelope? There's always been processors more powerful than ARM, just none with the low power consumption. Seems like ARM is getting faster a lot quicker than batteries are getting better.
Exactly! Just imagine an iPad with keyboard built in, Macbook Air form factor. Except now WAY more room for batteries and additional CPU/GPU. Sell it at a $600-$700 price point and it slides nicely between iPad and Macbook Air without any overlap. Also it soothes the transition from iOS to OS X.
They could easily make a laptop, thinner and lighter than the Air, with better battery life, with better than iPad performance -- if they run iOS on it. Very easily. That would be a really intriguing value proposition. No one complains about iPad performance, they're blisteringly fast now. With a laptop sized chassis you have room for more CPU/GPU cores and a LOT more battery. Maybe run a slightly modified version of iOS designed specifically for the laptop, or maybe use some input device beside a touchpad. Could be touch actually, that would make a lot of sense.
Why? Well, lots of reasons. They design their own ARM cpus and they provide absolutely fantastic performance (if you've used a new iPad or an iPhone 5 you know what I mean) and low power consumption. For the vast majority of users a beefed up version of the SoC in an iPad would make for a great desktop computer. I don't think they'll get away from Intel at the high-end, at least not anytime soon, but those powerful Intel machines would be beefy enough to emulate the ARM binaries, right? So I can always run the "apps" off my cheaper devices on my big powerful Mac desktop -- but not the other way around. That would make sense to users, I think.
And how exactly do you know which portable AS that a particular peer should be allowed to announce? If I have a customer come online tomorrow and they want to announce their own portable AS, what happens when I try to announce it upstream, and then the next AS peering relationship? Do I have to call you and have you update a prefix list, and everyone down the line? You're only thinking in terms of a stub AS not a transit AS (which is where the problem starts to really appear).
See if you trust A and A trusts B, you inherently trust B. There's no simple fix for this.
My point is that in mobile, the constraint is power. It doesn't matter if the CPU is 1 exaflop if it requires 50 megawatts of power -- it won't do much good in a mobile phone.
I don't really understand the dynamics of how x86 will move into the smartphone arena. I can't imagine companies like Samsung, who's manufacturing their own ARM based SOCs, would pay a premium for an Intel CPU that would cut massively into their profits, right? How does Intel get their foot in the door? Who's going to use Intel CPUs in their smartphones and tablets? And why is everyone so quick to write off ARM; a company who's processor designs are actively competing in mobile, and give the nod to Intel who doesn't even have a real offering in an already very mature market. It seems crazy to me. I appreciate that Intel has the lead in the fabrication process, already producing chips at 22nm, but I still don't see any Intel phones on the shelf at Verizon/AT&T -- and it's 2012. We're on the iPhone FIVE at this point. The previous Atom chips have been an absolute disaster. Exactly when do these people expect Intel to swoop in and dominate the smartphone/tablet arena, and how???
Of course, because we'll never invent a technology sufficiently advanced enough to replace a human. Good point. Let me just call the switchboard operator to have her patch me through to my friends so I can alert them all.
Why do you assume no teachers means no oversight? How about no classrooms and students learn at home on their own time, take their tests via the internet and then the scores are reported to the parents on a regular basis?
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but teachers don't make kids study. Parents make kids study.
For what it's worth, I don't think we'll ever get rid of teachers entirely. But I do think their role will just change dramatically.
I agree, unfortunately you're talking about a very small percentage of teachers. Most of them have no interest in teaching or stop caring long ago. In my entire time as a student I never had a teacher like the one you described, ever. What would be great is if we could keep those great teachers you describe, get rid of all the bad ones, and then make the good ones more effective through the use of technology.
Most humans don't perform any of those activities and don't need that kind of horsepower, certainly not a "huge segment of the population" - that's just absurd. They login to facebook and twitter, create spreadsheets and word documents, use gmail and hotmail and watch cats fall off of couches on youtubes. Those tasks you listed represent a tiny fraction of the populace.
It can run a web browser, so as early as today, and as late as 5-10 years, it'll run almost everything most people need (see: Live365). Other than the fraction of a percent doing CAD or 3D modeling, etc. And that's a long time for ARM to come a long way in terms of power.
While two targets would have been tougher, making Visual Studio compile to both would have largely overcome that problem. But let's see how WinRT plays out and we'll be able to better judge.
I agree with you, but again, we're talking a tiny percentage of people who could find someone to reprogram versus today where anyone can just steal a phone and put it on eBay.
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If sales were good, wouldn't Microsoft be shouting it from the mountain tops? Why are they so quiet about sales figures?
secure boot and windows marketplace? how is microsoft not worse?
who use technologies such as BitTorrent to steal copyrighted material.
steal/stl/
Verb:
Take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it: "thieves stole her bicycle".
How in 2012 are people still unable to distinguish between theft and copyright infringement and how does it get passed slashdot moderators?
And he was a third time offender. Three strikes law, and all.
Maybe because the labor to build and service the robots is still so much cheaper in China? I don't know, just one of many possible reasons. Great question, though.
ARM chips are still slower than the PowerPC chips Apple moved away from in 2005.
With what transistor count and power envelope? There's always been processors more powerful than ARM, just none with the low power consumption. Seems like ARM is getting faster a lot quicker than batteries are getting better.
Exactly! Just imagine an iPad with keyboard built in, Macbook Air form factor. Except now WAY more room for batteries and additional CPU/GPU. Sell it at a $600-$700 price point and it slides nicely between iPad and Macbook Air without any overlap. Also it soothes the transition from iOS to OS X.
The iPad isn't even close to the Air in performance and outsells it. Why do you think it needs an i5 or better to compete?
They could easily make a laptop, thinner and lighter than the Air, with better battery life, with better than iPad performance -- if they run iOS on it. Very easily. That would be a really intriguing value proposition. No one complains about iPad performance, they're blisteringly fast now. With a laptop sized chassis you have room for more CPU/GPU cores and a LOT more battery. Maybe run a slightly modified version of iOS designed specifically for the laptop, or maybe use some input device beside a touchpad. Could be touch actually, that would make a lot of sense.
Why? Well, lots of reasons. They design their own ARM cpus and they provide absolutely fantastic performance (if you've used a new iPad or an iPhone 5 you know what I mean) and low power consumption. For the vast majority of users a beefed up version of the SoC in an iPad would make for a great desktop computer. I don't think they'll get away from Intel at the high-end, at least not anytime soon, but those powerful Intel machines would be beefy enough to emulate the ARM binaries, right? So I can always run the "apps" off my cheaper devices on my big powerful Mac desktop -- but not the other way around. That would make sense to users, I think.
They're probably STILL going through that stuff. Crazy. I wonder how much traffic they dumped into pcap files before the route announcement got fixed.
And how exactly do you know which portable AS that a particular peer should be allowed to announce? If I have a customer come online tomorrow and they want to announce their own portable AS, what happens when I try to announce it upstream, and then the next AS peering relationship? Do I have to call you and have you update a prefix list, and everyone down the line? You're only thinking in terms of a stub AS not a transit AS (which is where the problem starts to really appear).
See if you trust A and A trusts B, you inherently trust B. There's no simple fix for this.
My point is that in mobile, the constraint is power. It doesn't matter if the CPU is 1 exaflop if it requires 50 megawatts of power -- it won't do much good in a mobile phone.
I don't really understand the dynamics of how x86 will move into the smartphone arena. I can't imagine companies like Samsung, who's manufacturing their own ARM based SOCs, would pay a premium for an Intel CPU that would cut massively into their profits, right? How does Intel get their foot in the door? Who's going to use Intel CPUs in their smartphones and tablets? And why is everyone so quick to write off ARM; a company who's processor designs are actively competing in mobile, and give the nod to Intel who doesn't even have a real offering in an already very mature market. It seems crazy to me. I appreciate that Intel has the lead in the fabrication process, already producing chips at 22nm, but I still don't see any Intel phones on the shelf at Verizon/AT&T -- and it's 2012. We're on the iPhone FIVE at this point. The previous Atom chips have been an absolute disaster. Exactly when do these people expect Intel to swoop in and dominate the smartphone/tablet arena, and how???
Using how much power?
Of course, because we'll never invent a technology sufficiently advanced enough to replace a human. Good point. Let me just call the switchboard operator to have her patch me through to my friends so I can alert them all.
Right, because books and computers are interchangeable. I'm actually posting this from a copy of War and Peace.
Why do you assume no teachers means no oversight? How about no classrooms and students learn at home on their own time, take their tests via the internet and then the scores are reported to the parents on a regular basis?
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but teachers don't make kids study. Parents make kids study.
For what it's worth, I don't think we'll ever get rid of teachers entirely. But I do think their role will just change dramatically.
I agree, unfortunately you're talking about a very small percentage of teachers. Most of them have no interest in teaching or stop caring long ago. In my entire time as a student I never had a teacher like the one you described, ever. What would be great is if we could keep those great teachers you describe, get rid of all the bad ones, and then make the good ones more effective through the use of technology.
All joking aside, it really is the year for Linux. Not the traditional desktop, but with 1.3 million android devices activated PER DAY it really will be the year of Linux.
Most humans don't perform any of those activities and don't need that kind of horsepower, certainly not a "huge segment of the population" - that's just absurd. They login to facebook and twitter, create spreadsheets and word documents, use gmail and hotmail and watch cats fall off of couches on youtubes. Those tasks you listed represent a tiny fraction of the populace.
It can run a web browser, so as early as today, and as late as 5-10 years, it'll run almost everything most people need (see: Live365). Other than the fraction of a percent doing CAD or 3D modeling, etc. And that's a long time for ARM to come a long way in terms of power.
While two targets would have been tougher, making Visual Studio compile to both would have largely overcome that problem. But let's see how WinRT plays out and we'll be able to better judge.
I agree with you, but again, we're talking a tiny percentage of people who could find someone to reprogram versus today where anyone can just steal a phone and put it on eBay.
Extremely easy for you probably, but not for 99% of the people stealing cellphones, I can guarantee you.