I'm surprised, I actually assumed there would be at LEAST a million Microsoft fanboys who would buy one. I don't mean that in a derogatory way, there's Apple and Android fanboys too. I just thought the Microsoft faithful alone would push it well beyond the 1m mark. And I supposed it might still, given a little more time.
Maybe everyone is holding out for the Surface Pro?
It's amazing how so many bright, technical people on slashdot still don't "get it". 99% of the software written doesn't matter when you have a web browser that lets you access your e-mail, music, news and social networks. No one who uses an iPad, iPhone or any touchscreen smartphone has any appreciable problem with fingerprints. DVD drive I won't even respond to that's laughable. The need for USB thumb drives has really been minimized by services like Dropbox. People don't need to print when you literally have a digital tablet to read it on, and it depends on what you mean by "meaningful work". A lot of people just need a communication device with access to some web applications. Also people seem to make the assumption that an iPad can replace laptops and desktops, and while its true in a small number of cases, typically it's considered a "companion device". The problem with your logic here is you're comparing a device to a use-case that's about 10-15 years old. Certainly a large majority of businesses cannot work solely on an iPad. But the iPad has never been targeted at the enterprise, it's a consumer device through and through.
What are the new features, other than metro? It seemed just like a normal Windows 7 desktop (sans start button) to me, but I honestly haven't spent much time with it.
Thanks for the info, I'm (obviously) very ignorant about ARM microprocessors. Now I've got something to waste the afternoon googling, you're a life saver, I was about to actually get some work done. Close call!
Good list except I'd say as few plastic cable ties as possible, buy big rolls of velcro and scissors. Sometimes using plastic cable ties works, but 9/10 I prefer to use velcro.
I assumed it was lack of hypervisor support baked into the cpu. Trying to do it in software would be a mess I would think, and have a significant performance penalty on an already not-that-incredibly-powerful device.
Then how does Apple do it? They make not only a higher quality product but don't include crapware and have some of the largest margins in the industry. Just look what Vizio is doing: http://www.vizio.com/computing/
Absolutely, so the original post citing windows errors really shouldn't be disregarded based on anecdotal evidence. I went from a Galaxy Nexus to an iPhone 5 and they both have their issues, albeit far more on the Galaxy Nexus. But to be fair, that's a generation old hardware, so I'd expect the iPhone 5 to perform better.
Not to be pedantic, but it's actually called Modern IU now because of some legal concerns, I believe.
And I don't disagree with the concept that we might need a new interface for touch or kinect enabled computers, but I don't see why that matters when I'm using a mouse and keyboard? We need to define "vast majority" and "a few years" because right now, today, there's no reason for the current vast majority of users to have to suffer through Windows 8 and Modern UI using a keyboard and a mouse.
One of us has an editor and the other doesn't. One is a grammatical error based on phonetics and the other is a logical error. You can complain about my grammar all you want, but the two are not comparable.
What makes it BETTER. That's the question. Learning a new graphical interface for no reason seems kind of pointless to me. I don't see any real reason for Windows 8 to exist, except for Microsoft to force people to use it which makes it easier to sell them tables and phones, because now it's familiar.
Is that really surprising? The Galaxy Nexus is over a year old at this point. If someone were to release a smartphone a year later and it's slower, less reliable and has worse battery life than the previous generation of devices, it would be absolutely absurd. Even the Galaxy SIII released way back in May would be a more fair comparison.
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Which is why I specified "Windows DC"
This didn't require a windows DC.
The only difference between that and the US dollar is the basement thing.
I'm surprised, I actually assumed there would be at LEAST a million Microsoft fanboys who would buy one. I don't mean that in a derogatory way, there's Apple and Android fanboys too. I just thought the Microsoft faithful alone would push it well beyond the 1m mark. And I supposed it might still, given a little more time.
Maybe everyone is holding out for the Surface Pro?
How about Netflix and iTunes? If I really care about a movie, I'm watching it in the theaters or at home on a larger screen.
It's amazing how so many bright, technical people on slashdot still don't "get it". 99% of the software written doesn't matter when you have a web browser that lets you access your e-mail, music, news and social networks. No one who uses an iPad, iPhone or any touchscreen smartphone has any appreciable problem with fingerprints. DVD drive I won't even respond to that's laughable. The need for USB thumb drives has really been minimized by services like Dropbox. People don't need to print when you literally have a digital tablet to read it on, and it depends on what you mean by "meaningful work". A lot of people just need a communication device with access to some web applications. Also people seem to make the assumption that an iPad can replace laptops and desktops, and while its true in a small number of cases, typically it's considered a "companion device". The problem with your logic here is you're comparing a device to a use-case that's about 10-15 years old. Certainly a large majority of businesses cannot work solely on an iPad. But the iPad has never been targeted at the enterprise, it's a consumer device through and through.
What are the new features, other than metro? It seemed just like a normal Windows 7 desktop (sans start button) to me, but I honestly haven't spent much time with it.
Thanks for the info, I'm (obviously) very ignorant about ARM microprocessors. Now I've got something to waste the afternoon googling, you're a life saver, I was about to actually get some work done. Close call!
You do when you want to run two disparate operating systems.
I said a hypervisor, not a multiuser OS. Reading is fun[damental].
Good list except I'd say as few plastic cable ties as possible, buy big rolls of velcro and scissors. Sometimes using plastic cable ties works, but 9/10 I prefer to use velcro.
I assumed it was lack of hypervisor support baked into the cpu. Trying to do it in software would be a mess I would think, and have a significant performance penalty on an already not-that-incredibly-powerful device.
Are you referring to Mac OS X when you say "rollig hamster ball" ?
I cannot even fathom how shitty a $250 Windows 8 PC must be.
Vizio. Beautiful PCs with all the crapware removed. It's the only thing I recommend for anyone who wants a prebuilt PC.
Only because at the lowest end they can get the OEM windows so cheap (which I would immediately wipe anyway).
Below would be a better option (for me) than the one you're referring to which is an AMD E-350 (Intel Atom comparable).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130630
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148538
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353007
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817822006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148766
Total: 191.95
No, it doesn't include a Windows OS license, which I would be wasting money on anyway, and would be faster.
Then how does Apple do it? They make not only a higher quality product but don't include crapware and have some of the largest margins in the industry. Just look what Vizio is doing: http://www.vizio.com/computing/
No crapware!
Absolutely, so the original post citing windows errors really shouldn't be disregarded based on anecdotal evidence. I went from a Galaxy Nexus to an iPhone 5 and they both have their issues, albeit far more on the Galaxy Nexus. But to be fair, that's a generation old hardware, so I'd expect the iPhone 5 to perform better.
Not to be pedantic, but it's actually called Modern IU now because of some legal concerns, I believe.
And I don't disagree with the concept that we might need a new interface for touch or kinect enabled computers, but I don't see why that matters when I'm using a mouse and keyboard? We need to define "vast majority" and "a few years" because right now, today, there's no reason for the current vast majority of users to have to suffer through Windows 8 and Modern UI using a keyboard and a mouse.
One of us has an editor and the other doesn't. One is a grammatical error based on phonetics and the other is a logical error. You can complain about my grammar all you want, but the two are not comparable.
What makes it BETTER. That's the question. Learning a new graphical interface for no reason seems kind of pointless to me. I don't see any real reason for Windows 8 to exist, except for Microsoft to force people to use it which makes it easier to sell them tables and phones, because now it's familiar.
Is that really surprising? The Galaxy Nexus is over a year old at this point. If someone were to release a smartphone a year later and it's slower, less reliable and has worse battery life than the previous generation of devices, it would be absolutely absurd. Even the Galaxy SIII released way back in May would be a more fair comparison.
Considering theres about 500 iPhones for every 1 windows phone, i wouldn' take 25 replies too seriously.
Nice try, Ballmer.
It's market share dropped while it's sales increased. The smartphone market is growing at an amazing pace, so I wouldn't consider that a horrible thing. Here's an analysis from Deidu: http://www.asymco.com/2012/11/05/the-late-smartphone-adopter-paradox/